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CloakNNNdagger said:
Patriots C David Andrews needs season-ending shoulder surgery and is trying to decide if he can play through the injury. He suffered a dislocation and has ligament and labral damage. At his position, he would do well to have the surgery sooner rather than later.
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Head coach Jerod Mayo announced Wednesday that Andrews will underdog shoulder surgery and likely miss the rest of the season, Mike Reiss of ESPN.com reports.
 
At this time, the Chiefs know exactly what Rice's injury is. The Chiefs are playing games with the injury report................something that in general has become all too prevalent with the advent and increasing numbers involved in legalized gambling. In Rice's case, it is being done to manipulate the impact of his impending suspension. Injury should not be able to lessen the effect of a player's suspension punishment

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Rashee Rice’s injury opens door to resolution of off-field issues, this year
By Mike Florio
Published October 4, 2024 08:45 AM

Entering the season, the goal for Chiefs receiver Rashee Rice was to have a strong second year, establish himself as a clear No. 1 receiver, and delay the consequences for his street-racing incident until 2025. Now that he has suffered a knee injury that apparently (but not definitely) will end his 2024 season, the plan will change.

The goal will become, we believe (and we’re told), to resolve the eight pending felony charges and to serve any suspension this year, while he’s otherwise unable to play. Then, come 2025, the incident, and the injury, will be behind him.

Some might call that cynical. Others would regard it as strategic. Because it is. If he’s going to miss time due to the off-field issue, why not serve the suspension while otherwise unable to play? (He’ll lose game checks, but he won’t lose on-field opportunities.)

Here’s something else that could be called both cynical and strategic. From a P.R. standpoint, telling the world that Rice has a torn ACL and won’t play this season makes a decision to promptly resolve his criminal case and serve a suspension in 2024 seem convenient.

Why not remain vague about his status, never providing a clear diagnosis or prognosis and simply putting him on IR and leaving him on IR and keeping the door open to a return? Then, if he’s suspended while he’s otherwise potentially preparing to return, it won’t seem like he’s unfairly getting a chance to double dip, serving a suspension from games he wouldn’t have played anyway.

It’s a subtle point, but it helps explain why the Chiefs have tapped the brakes on confirming that the ACL is torn, if it truly is.

The first step in implementing the revised plan will be to find a way to broach settlement talks with prosecutors in Dallas without losing leverage. The party that makes the first move generally is regarded as the party operating from a position of weakness.

Still, if the new goal will be to wrap this up before 2025, Rice’s representatives will need to find a way for him to take his medicine without having to swallow a bigger dose than he wants. And the more subtle goal should be to have a suspension land later in the year, when there’s still a vague sense he could play again in 2024 (even if he won’t) and when the duration of any suspension imposed by the league wouldn’t trickle into next year.
 
NFL: Drink was spilled on Bengals RB Chase Brown by accident
By Josh Alper
Published October 4, 2024 07:26 AM

After a drink landed on Bengals running back Chase Brown at the end of last Sunday’s win over the Panthers, the NFL and the NFL Players Association said they would be looking into what happened.

On Thursday, the NFL announced their findings. If a fan had been seen on video intentionally dousing Brown, they could have been banned from NFL stadiums but the league’s investigation found that the drink was spilled accidentally.

“The league’s review of the matter determined that portions of a drink were accidentally spilled on the Cincinnati player as Bengals’ fans attempted to catch the gloves he tossed to them,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement, via the Associated Press. “The league analyzed video of multiple angles from stadium security cameras and also social media.”
 
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Giants' Nabers still in protocol, to miss 1st game

Giants rookie wide receiver Malik Nabers remains in the concussion protocol and has been ruled out of Sunday's game against the Seahawks.
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The Giants are also unlikely to have starting running back Devin Singletary (groin) available, as he has been listed as doubtful despite returning to practice Friday as a limited participant and saying he "feels better."
 
JB said:
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Craig among 60 seniors up for Pro Football HOF

Versatile running back Roger Craig, former MVP Ken Anderson and key member of the Steel Curtain defense L.C. Greenwood are among the players who advanced to the next stage in the Seniors category for the 2025 Pro Football Hall of Fame class.
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Craig, Greenwood, and Anderson? I would have thought these guys were already in the HOF.
 
Update on Brandin Cooks. He actually had 2 procedures on his right knee. He had a procedure in New York following last week's Cowboys-Giants game. After he developed symptoms upon his return to Dallas, he had surgery to clean out the infection in his knee. That was performed by Cowboys team doctors over the weekend. I have not been able to determine if the infection was superficial or in the joint................but since the secondary procedure was a "clean out," I would have to conclude that it was deep involving the joint. If so, such an infections If he is out for more than a week, I would have to say that it was evidence of deep joint involvement.............and he will likely be out for quite a while. I would hope that the latter is not the case, because even after well-healed it could leave his knee compromised long-term.

Will put in a prayer for this infection to be controllable sooner than later.
 
NFL says Tua Tagovailoa’s return is a matter for him, his doctors and the Dolphins
By Michael David Smith
Published October 4, 2024 04:58 PM

The NFL’s chief medical officer says the league will play no part in determining when or if Tua Tagovailoa returns to the Dolphins.

Dr. Allen Sills said on a media conference call today that Tagovailoa ultimately needs to make his own decisions based on the information he gets from the doctors he consults with, and that the league does not step into decisions made by club medical staffs and individual players.

“Patient autonomy in medical decision-making really matters,” Sills said.

Sills said that in addition to working with the Dolphins’ medical staff, Tagovailoa has consulted with top neurological experts from around the country to get the best advice he can get about how to deal with the repeated concussions that have affected his career and currently have him on injured reserve.

Tagovailoa suffered a concussion in Week Two against the Bills and is eligible to return from injured reserve as soon as Week Eight against the Cardinals.

Sills said there is no formula involving a specific number of concussions that determines whether a player can be cleared to continue playing football. Every player’s case is assessed based on that player’s own needs, and the league leaves that to the player and the doctors who treat him.
 
As Jayden Daniels prepares to face Deshaun Watson, Daniels is what Watson once was
By Mike Florio
Published October 5, 2024 09:56 AM

Jayden Daniels is HIM. On Sunday, he squares off against a quarterback who not all that long ago was HIM.

Only seven years back, Deshaun Watson was having the same kind of impact on the NFL that Daniels is currently having.
Watson, taken two picks after Patrick Mahomes in 2017, started in Week 2. Despite going 3-3, he was taking the league by storm. He was regarded as the no-brainer offensive rookie of the year. He was generating MVP buzz.

By his third start, Watson accounted for five touchdowns (four passing, one rushing) in a 57-14 thrashing of the Titans. The next week, he threw for five touchdown passes in a 42-34 loss to the Chiefs. After a four-touchdown day in a 41-38 loss to Seattle, cornerback Richard Sherman told Watson he played better against the Seahawks defense than any quarterback Sherman had seen — Tom Brady included.

Only days later, Watson suffered a non-contact ACL tear. (After the 2017 season, Watson later told PFT Live at the Super Bowl that he believes the injury happened during the Seattle game.)

Now, Daniels is the new kid on the block. The fresh face who is doing big things. With three combined rushing and passing touchdowns on Sunday against the Browns, he’ll match Watson (and Justin Herbert) for the all-time record number of total touchdowns in a quarterback’s first five NFL games, at 14.

It will be a strange thing for Watson to watch. He last played at a high level in 2020. After sitting out 2021 with pay while the Texans tried to trade him (and while facing more than 20 lawsuits) and missing 11 games in 2022 (due to the lawsuits) and 11 in 2023 (due to injury), Watson is a shell of what he used to be.

For the first time in his career, Watson has gone four straight games without throwing for 200 or more yards.
“I don’t care about the stats,” Watson told reporters this week. “I just want to win. So, none of that stuff matters.”
But the Browns also aren’t winning. They’re 1-3. The Commanders, under Daniels, are 3-1.

And the Browns continue to be handcuffed by the worst trade-and-sign of the salary cap era. They couldn’t bring back Joe Flacco in 2024, because the fans would have revolted by now if Watson hadn’t been benched for him. And if they decide to give Jameis Winston a shot, what will the quarterback who is owed another $92 million — fully guaranteed — in 2025 and 2026 think?

On Sunday, one quarterback whose star is rising will take on a quarterback whose star has fallen (and it can’t get up). With each passing week that Watson doesn’t rewind the clock to 2020, the situation becomes more glaring. And, on Sunday, when Watson and every other Browns fan watches an opposing quarterback who is what Watson once was, it will only create a greater sense of regret over the $230 million, the three first-round picks, and the three other draft selections that were given up to get Watson.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Update on Brandin Cooks. He actually had 2 procedures on his right knee. He had a procedure in New York following last week's Cowboys-Giants game. After he developed symptoms upon his return to Dallas, he had surgery to clean out the infection in his knee. That was performed by Cowboys team doctors over the weekend. I have not been able to determine if the infection was superficial or in the joint................but since the secondary procedure was a "clean out," I would have to conclude that it was deep involving the joint. If so, such an infections If he is out for more than a week, I would have to say that it was evidence of deep joint involvement.............and he will likely be out for quite a while. I would hope that the latter is not the case, because even after well-healed it could leave his knee compromised long-term.

Will put in a prayer for this infection to be controllable sooner than later.
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As I expected, Anthony Richardson has just been downgraded to DOUBTFUL.................although there is no way he should play with any expectation of decent performance...........and high risk of re-injury.

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CloakNNNdagger said:
The abdominal obliques have attachments to the hips and can cause hip pain............explaining how the injury was initially mistaken for a hip injury.

Here's another case of a player allowed to return to play in a game while injured and extending the injury.

"Considered day-to-day"????????? Even with injections, this is at least 3-4 week rest/rehab..................unless you're looking for a recurrent injury. And in a QB this core injury would certainly adversely affect his mechanics.

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Report: Anthony Richardson day to day with abdominal, oblique injuries
By Charean Williams

Published September 30, 2024 06:00 PM

Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson left Sunday’s game with what the team called a right hip injury. Coach Steve Steichen said Monday he did not think it was a “huge, huge injury” for Richardson.

Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports that Richardson has oblique and abdominal strains and is considered day to day.
Richardson is not ruled out for Sunday’s game against the Jaguars.

He played only 14 snaps against the Steelers, initially injuring himself on a 14-yard run before returning for two plays and then leaving for good.

Richardson now has missed significant portions of three of the eight career games he has started.

He has completed only 50.6 percent of his passes for 654 yards with three touchdowns and a league-high six interceptions this season. Richardson also has run for 141 yards and a touchdown.
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Commanders activate Marcus Mariota from IR
By Josh Alper
Published October 5, 2024 05:49 PM

The Commanders will have quarterback Marcus Mariota back on the roster for Sunday’s game against the Browns.

Mariota was activated from injured reserve on Saturday. Mariota suffered a chest injury this summer that led to him going on the list and he returned to practice once eligible to do so this week.

Jeff Driskel and Sam Hartman were the backups to Jayden Daniels in the first four weeks of the regular season.

The Commanders also elevated cornerback Kevon Seymour and wide receiver Brycen Tremayne from the practice squad.
In non-transaction news, the Commanders ruled out defensive end Efe Obada and linebacker Jordan Magee. Both players were designated for return along with Mariota. Safety Tyler Owens was downgraded to doubtful with a shin injury.
 
The refs can missed a major call.................but when a coach gets rightly upset..................... :thinking:

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NFL fines Packers coach Matt LaFleur $14,069 for unsportsmanlike conduct
By Mike Florio
Published October 5, 2024 06:28 PM

Packers coach Matt LaFleur is usually mild mannered. Late in the first half of Sunday’s game against the Vikings, he definitely wasn’t.

LaFleur blew a gasket after the officials ruled that a pass to receiver Romeo Doubs did not result in a touchdown. Because the play happened within the final two minutes before intermission, LaFleur couldn’t throw his red challenge flag. He threw his headset instead.

He got flagged.

“I’m absolutely embarrassed that I got an unsportsmanlike [penalty], and when you expect composure from your team, and then you’re doing that, that’s a bad look,” LaFleur said after the game.

Now, the NFL has announced (sort of) that LaFleur also has been fined $14.069.

It’s only fair. Players get fined all the time. And those fines are posted. LaFleur’s fine was reported by Tom Pelissero of NFL Media, with the “per sources” designation. Still, if it comes from the media outlet owned and operated by the NFL, it’s no different than if it came from the NFL itself.

Still, the fines imposed on coaches should be formally announced the same way fines imposed on players are announced.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
NFL issues five fines for “violent gestures” in Week 4

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But shooting an arrow is not violent
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The NFL should be renamed the Not Fair League.

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NFL cracks down on finger guns
By Mike Florio
Published October 6, 2024 09:13 AM

The folks in the No Fun League’s ivory tower have carved a new entry into the stone tablets: Thou shalt not shoot finger guns.

The league has fined five players for violent gestures in Week 4. Nine violent-gesture fines have been issued to date in the 2024 season.

The case of Jets receiver Allen Lazard underscores the fact that finger guns apparently landed on the radar screen only recently. Lazard has periodically fired over the finger guns before, with no flag, no fine, not even a warning. (We’ve seen the visual evidence.)

We asked the league whether anything has changed, specifically citing Lazard’s longstanding habit of sticking his index finger out and his thumb up, typically after getting a first down.

“Not commenting on a specific player,” a league spokesperson said, “but that’s been a longstanding rule as part of the reference to any violent gesture. It’s also part of the players’ manual.”

The rule that lists the various forms of unsportsmanlike conduct does indeed mention "[a]ny violent gesture.” And, despite the comment above, our position has always been that the league makes the rules and the players follow them. That presumes the league shares the rules with the players.

The problem here is that the rule went from being ignored (as to Lazard and his finger guns) to being strictly enforced — with no apparent evidence that there was a conspicuous admonition to all players that the league has adopted an Eleventh Commandment that further infringes on a player’s God-given privilege to pretend to exercise his Second Amendment rights.
 
Truly random thought of the day. Ran across this this morning. The first and last time both teams wore white jerseys in a game.

Lions @ Vikings - Oct. 11, 1964

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The story is, the Vikings wanted to show the home fans their road combo that they never got to see in a game played in Minnesota. So they made a request to wear white at home. The Lions say they were never informed. By the end of the 2nd quarter the Vikings were switching to their purple jerseys that had to be retrieved from their practice facility and brought to the stadium. Players were switching tops on the sidelines.
 
Flacco is ready to show his stuff with Richardson OUT. Richardson should have been listed out right after last game. Team playing with injury report.
 
Watched the Colts game film................Colts RG Will Fries suffered a right lower leg tibia/fibula fracture No doubt it will require surgery and put an end to his season.
 
Patriots’ Jabrill Peppers arrested for assault, cocaine possession
By Michael David Smith
Published October 7, 2024 09:02 AM

Patriots safety Jabrill Peppers was arrested on Saturday on charges reportedly including assault and battery, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, strangulation and possession of cocaine.

Peppers was arrested in Braintree, Massachusetts, where police said they responded to a disturbance at a residence early

Saturday morning and arrested Peppers after investigating, according to NBCBoston.com.

The victim was treated on the scene. There is no word on the nature of the victim’s injuries.

Peppers, one of the Patriots’ captains, was originally listed as questionable for Sunday’s game against the Dolphins with a shoulder injury but then was downgraded to out on Saturday. The Patriots issued a statement on Monday morning about

Peppers’ arrest; it is not clear whether they were aware of it when they ruled him out of Sunday’s game.

“We are aware of an incident involving Jabrill Peppers over the weekend in which the police are currently investigating. We will have no further comment at this time,” the team’s statement said.

Peppers is slated to be arraigned in court today.
 
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