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Lucky said:
When did Troy become a HBCU? After they allowed blacks to enroll?

If Trotter doesn't like it, he can also sue for discrimination. Which he is doing.
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This is why they will never hire another person or color for that position.

Good job Trotter.

What happened to freedom of speech in this country?
 
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Fox rules analyst Mike Pereira could miss the season due to back surgery
By Mike Florio
Published September 13, 2023 10:26 AM

Fox analyst Mike Pereira, one of the very best at candidly and succinctly explaining any and all of the various provisions of the NFL rulebook, might not be involved in the game this season.
Via Jordan Bondurant of Barrett Sports Media, Pereira has disclosed that he has a back problem that will soon lead to surgery. It could keep Pereira off the air all year long.

“Well, the season is starting and for me, I am on IR,” Pereira tweeted. “Bad back and soon to come surgery keeps me from traveling and keeps me home. You are blessed not to see me on the tube for . . . possibly the season. I will be able to answer your questions during the week that you might have.”

If Pereira will be confined to his home, there surely could be a way to set him up to contribute from there. While Fox also has Dean Blandino, the two former leaders of the NFL’s officiating department give Fox an impressive one-two punch. Fox will be better for it if they can use both of them to help fans and media understand the calls made and not made during games.
 
JB said:
I thought we were talking about Jerry never hiring a person of color for that position again?
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Trotter was hired by the NFL.

Jerrah's righthand man (Clay) is a person of color. Jerrah certainly wouldn't have hired Clay if he was a racist as Trotter claims.
 
Lucky said:
So you think the NFL wouldn't be sued for discriminatory hiring practices (like they already are by coaches)? You'd make a great NFL owner, steelb.
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Yes, I would make a great owner and it would be unspoken. Everybody in the office would no how I felt about being sued by Trotter and that it would be a mistake to put ourselves in that position again.
 
steelbtexan said:
Trotter was hired by the NFL.

Jerrah's righthand man (Clay) is a person of color. Jerrah certainly wouldn't have hired Clay if he was a racist as Trotter claims.
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But you think that Jerry can influence the NFL into being racist?
 
JB said:
But you think that Jerry can influence the NFL into being racist?
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I dont think he needs to influence anybody in the NFL office. Trotter has done that for Jerrah and what's racist about having your org avoid potential lawsuits? I would call avoiding potential lawsuits good business. You wouldn't?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Kelce's bone bruise knee injury was non-contact.

The bone bruises from contact hurt more when they happen but are more a pain tolerance issue and non-structural with no long-term risk.

The non-contact bruises are potentially more worrisome, as a bruise to the bone near the articular surface can get worse and lead to collapse or lack of support for the all-important overlying articular cartilage. (Picture the grass on the football field with the the underlying bone being the dirt)
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The Chiefs were previously stating that he may be playing in week 1 after being diagnosed with the bone bruise. That in itself was ridiculous. As it turns out, 45 ccs of blood was apirated from his knee joint, making it a serious deep knee bruise. Now the Chiefs are saying they are shooting for week 2. Kelce will not be ready to go back by then. When bleeding occurs, it usually occurs between the bone and the overlying cartilage..............it can cause necrosis of the bone and/or the articular cartilage. Depending how much true damage has be done and how it progresses, these type of bone bruises can take a long time to heal..........sometimes a month, sometimes up to 2 years.
 
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Burrow's problem was not that he lost time in TC. After his Grade II calf strain, he came back at the very lower limits of recovery. In the game, he was more like a statue than a mobile QB. And this is not even to mention how passing mechanics are affected without normal strength plant foot (and this was also quite evident in the game) And when He can be expected to not be "himself" until the 2nd half of the season..........and throughout the season re-injury risk is significantly increased.........respect the injury.

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Joe Burrow remains on injury report with full practice
By Charean Williams

Published September 13, 2023 07:46 PM

Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow remains on the team’s injury report as a full participant with his calf injury. He said he came out of the game sore but otherwise OK.

When he was asked how much he could run, Burrow said “we’re feeling it out.”

Burrow strained his calf on the second day of training camp and did not return to practice until after the preseason.

The lack of practice time could explain his career-worst performance last week when he threw for 82 yards with a 52.2 passer rating in the loss to the Browns.

“You just go over those reps. Those things happen early in the year for all teams,” Burrow said, via Geoff Hobson of the team website. “You try to limit them as much as you can, but they happen every year, especially when your quarterback doesn’t play in training camp. You’ve just got to work those things out in practice. We had a really good day today.”

Burrow got a haircut this week and joked his poor outing was the reason.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Burrow's problem was not that he lost time in TC. After his Grade II calf strain, he came back at the very lower limits of recovery. In the game, he was more like a statue than a mobile QB. And this is not even to mention how passing mechanics are affected without normal strength plant foot (and this was also quite evident in the game) And when He can be expected to not be "himself" until the 2nd half of the season..........and throughout the season re-injury risk is significantly increased.........respect the injury.

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Joe Burrow remains on injury report with full practice
By Charean Williams

Published September 13, 2023 07:46 PM

Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow remains on the team’s injury report as a full participant with his calf injury. He said he came out of the game sore but otherwise OK.

When he was asked how much he could run, Burrow said “we’re feeling it out.”

Burrow strained his calf on the second day of training camp and did not return to practice until after the preseason.

The lack of practice time could explain his career-worst performance last week when he threw for 82 yards with a 52.2 passer rating in the loss to the Browns.

“You just go over those reps. Those things happen early in the year for all teams,” Burrow said, via Geoff Hobson of the team website. “You try to limit them as much as you can, but they happen every year, especially when your quarterback doesn’t play in training camp. You’ve just got to work those things out in practice. We had a really good day today.”

Burrow got a haircut this week and joked his poor outing was the reason.
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This should surprise no one.

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Jim Trotter: I was told not to report NFL wanted Bills-Bengals to resume
Published September 13, 2023 11:33 PM

In his new lawsuit against the NFL, former NFL Network reporter Jim Trotter alleges that the league exercises control of NFL Media, to the extent that the league “throttles content that is critical of the NFL.” To prove that point, Trotter makes specific allegations regarding his efforts to report information learned regarding the cancellation of the Bills-Bengals game on January 2, 2023, after Buffalo safety Damar Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest on the field.

One of the issues that lingered following the determination that the game would not proceed was whether a preliminary decision had been made to continue the game.

“In the days that followed, Mr. Trotter learned that the teams were in fact instructed that play would resume after a five-minute warm-up, explaining why the players had been doing so,” the complaint alleges at paragraph 161. “This decision, Mr. Trotter and other reporters learned, came from the NFL league office not from the officials on the field.”

From paragraph 162: “This directive was uncovered by several reporters and was widely reported in the media in the days that followed. However, the NFL staunchly denied these claims, as reflected in the various articles. Mr. Trotter, for his part, investigated further. He received confirmation from multiple sources refuting the NFL’s version and its denial.”

In the next paragraph of the complaint, Trotter says he “reached out to Brian McCarthy, the NFL’s Vice President of Communications, seeking comment from the NFL employee who, according to Mr. Trotter’s sources, informed the teams that they would resume play.” Per the complaint, “Mr. McCarthy simply denied the allegations and refused to make the person available to Mr. Trotter.”

From paragraph 163: “Mr. Trotter, being a tenacious reporter, pushed further that he needed to speak to the individual or at the very least needed a comment from that person. Mr. McCarthy responded, knowing that Mr. Trotter was not ‘merely’ a journalist but also an NFL employee, ‘I will call your supervisor if you don’t let this go.’ Mr. Trotter responded that he was ‘fine with’ Mr. McCarthy calling his supervisor because he was doing his job.”

“Soon after, Mr. Trotter received a text message from Mr. [Todd] Sperry,” the complaint alleges at paragraph 165. “Mr. Sperry directed Mr. Trotter to ‘stand down’ in his reporting on the story. Mr. Trotter responded, ‘I thought it was our job as journalists to always pursue the truth. Is that not the case?’ Mr. Sperry never responded to Mr. Trotter’s text message — which speaks for itself.”

The incident itself is not directly relevant to Trotter’s claims. It is relevant to any effort to prove that the NFL and NFL Media are one in the same, and that the NFL controls NFL Media and NFL Network.

“This entire incident makes it very clear that the NFL controls NFL Media, throttles content that is critical of the NFL and will not hesitate to silence employees who speak out regarding matters that are unfavorable to the league,” the complaint alleges at paragraph 166. “While in this case, the matter involved the NFL’s handling of a sensitive incident involving a player injury, it was consistent with the resistance Mr. Trotter faced when speaking up regarding discrimination.”

, the league has been unreasonably sensitive to any suggestion that anyone in the league office initially directed the Bills-Bengals game to proceed. It would have been much easier to simply acknowledge that players often suffer injuries that require a stoppage of the game, and that the standard approach is to proceed. In this case, once it became clear that Hamlin had suffered a serious injury, the plan changed.

For these purposes, Trotter’s point is that the NFL can and will exercise control over journalists employed by the league. It’s really no surprise; it confirms the inherent conflict of interest that arises when a sports league hires and pays reporters to cover the league.

The right approach is to have a firewall in place between the reporting function and the league’s business operations. Over the years, there have been multiple examples of that not being the case.

Put simply and clearly, the NFL does not want its in-house media operation to engage in reporting, analysis, or commentary that makes the league look bad. Frankly, the NFL periodically bristles when reporters employed by league partners engage in reporting, analysis, or commentary that makes the league look bad.

If that attitude is displayed from time to time when it comes to reporters who don’t work for the league, it certainly will be displayed from time to time, or perhaps more frequently, when it comes to those who do.
 
SMDH. Talk about getting things wrong. Michael Kay went on his ESPN radio show and claimed that Daboll had a party the night before playing the Cowboys. He was right. Daboll did have a party.... for his 6-year-old son. LMAO. He had it on good authority.

“I have it on good authority that Brian Daboll had a huge party at his house on Saturday night,” Kay said in the third hour of his show. “You’re not throwing a big party if you’re about to get your butt kicked by the Cowboys. So, this took everybody by surprise. And that’s what’s scary. Nobody expected this sort of blowout. They thought that they were going to play with them and they didn’t even show up.

“That scares me guys. That tells me that they don’t even know their own team. There’s no way the head coach of a team throws a huge party like that the night before the opener if they think that there’s a chance that they’re going to get blown out."

Michael Kay apologizes for Giants coach’s party report (UPDATE) - nj.com
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This should surprise no one.

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Jim Trotter: I was told not to report NFL wanted Bills-Bengals to resume
Published September 13, 2023 11:33 PM

In his new lawsuit against the NFL, former NFL Network reporter Jim Trotter alleges that the league exercises control of NFL Media, to the extent that the league “throttles content that is critical of the NFL.” To prove that point, Trotter makes specific allegations regarding his efforts to report information learned regarding the cancellation of the Bills-Bengals game on January 2, 2023, after Buffalo safety Damar Hamlin suffered cardiac arrest on the field.

One of the issues that lingered following the determination that the game would not proceed was whether a preliminary decision had been made to continue the game.

“In the days that followed, Mr. Trotter learned that the teams were in fact instructed that play would resume after a five-minute warm-up, explaining why the players had been doing so,” the complaint alleges at paragraph 161. “This decision, Mr. Trotter and other reporters learned, came from the NFL league office not from the officials on the field.”

From paragraph 162: “This directive was uncovered by several reporters and was widely reported in the media in the days that followed. However, the NFL staunchly denied these claims, as reflected in the various articles. Mr. Trotter, for his part, investigated further. He received confirmation from multiple sources refuting the NFL’s version and its denial.”

In the next paragraph of the complaint, Trotter says he “reached out to Brian McCarthy, the NFL’s Vice President of Communications, seeking comment from the NFL employee who, according to Mr. Trotter’s sources, informed the teams that they would resume play.” Per the complaint, “Mr. McCarthy simply denied the allegations and refused to make the person available to Mr. Trotter.”

From paragraph 163: “Mr. Trotter, being a tenacious reporter, pushed further that he needed to speak to the individual or at the very least needed a comment from that person. Mr. McCarthy responded, knowing that Mr. Trotter was not ‘merely’ a journalist but also an NFL employee, ‘I will call your supervisor if you don’t let this go.’ Mr. Trotter responded that he was ‘fine with’ Mr. McCarthy calling his supervisor because he was doing his job.”

“Soon after, Mr. Trotter received a text message from Mr. [Todd] Sperry,” the complaint alleges at paragraph 165. “Mr. Sperry directed Mr. Trotter to ‘stand down’ in his reporting on the story. Mr. Trotter responded, ‘I thought it was our job as journalists to always pursue the truth. Is that not the case?’ Mr. Sperry never responded to Mr. Trotter’s text message — which speaks for itself.”

The incident itself is not directly relevant to Trotter’s claims. It is relevant to any effort to prove that the NFL and NFL Media are one in the same, and that the NFL controls NFL Media and NFL Network.

“This entire incident makes it very clear that the NFL controls NFL Media, throttles content that is critical of the NFL and will not hesitate to silence employees who speak out regarding matters that are unfavorable to the league,” the complaint alleges at paragraph 166. “While in this case, the matter involved the NFL’s handling of a sensitive incident involving a player injury, it was consistent with the resistance Mr. Trotter faced when speaking up regarding discrimination.”

, the league has been unreasonably sensitive to any suggestion that anyone in the league office initially directed the Bills-Bengals game to proceed. It would have been much easier to simply acknowledge that players often suffer injuries that require a stoppage of the game, and that the standard approach is to proceed. In this case, once it became clear that Hamlin had suffered a serious injury, the plan changed.

For these purposes, Trotter’s point is that the NFL can and will exercise control over journalists employed by the league. It’s really no surprise; it confirms the inherent conflict of interest that arises when a sports league hires and pays reporters to cover the league.

The right approach is to have a firewall in place between the reporting function and the league’s business operations. Over the years, there have been multiple examples of that not being the case.

Put simply and clearly, the NFL does not want its in-house media operation to engage in reporting, analysis, or commentary that makes the league look bad. Frankly, the NFL periodically bristles when reporters employed by league partners engage in reporting, analysis, or commentary that makes the league look bad.

If that attitude is displayed from time to time when it comes to reporters who don’t work for the league, it certainly will be displayed from time to time, or perhaps more frequently, when it comes to those who do.
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Can't blame the NFL for this stance.
 
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It's "not out of the question" that Aaron Rodgers could return this season, sources said, but he has not and will not put a specific timeline on his return.

Rams running back Cam Akers tore his Achilles and came back faster than virtually any professional athlete: just under five months. Rodgers tore his Achilles on Sept. 11 -- exactly five months before this season's Super Bowl in Las Vegas.
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Sources: Possibility QB Rodgers returns this year

It's "not out of the question" that Aaron Rodgers could return this season from his torn Achilles, sources said, though the play of the Jets and Zach Wilson could influence the timeline.
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I dunno is that possibility, eh I mean a realistic possibility ?
 
IDEXAN said:
It's "not out of the question" that Aaron Rodgers could return this season, sources said, but he has not and will not put a specific timeline on his return.

Rams running back Cam Akers tore his Achilles and came back faster than virtually any professional athlete: just under five months. Rodgers tore his Achilles on Sept. 11 -- exactly five months before this season's Super Bowl in Las Vegas.
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Sources: Possibility QB Rodgers returns this year

It's "not out of the question" that Aaron Rodgers could return this season from his torn Achilles, sources said, though the play of the Jets and Zach Wilson could influence the timeline.
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I dunno is that possibility, eh I mean a realistic possibility ?
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If the Jets make it to a Super Bowl, they aren’t benching the QB. Unless it’s a Rex Grossman type performance.
 
TheRealJoker said:
He’s a favorite of some of the more anti Stroud posters on here.
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He's not a favorite. I was hoping he would've been brought in for competition with Stroud. He never was meant to be a long term solution. The long term solution was to draft a QB in 2024.

I also suggested drafting Hooker does that count too?

How's Stroud's elbow this morning?
 
steelbtexan said:
He's not a favorite. I was hoping he would've been brought in for competition with Stroud. He never was meant to be a long term solution. The long term solution was to draft a QB in 2024.

I also suggested drafting Hooker does that count too?

How's Stroud's elbow this morning?
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Do you speak for all of the anti Stroud posters?

Georgia trash is the new Clemson trash… one man’s trash is another man’s treasure I guess!
 
TheRealJoker said:
Do you speak for all of the anti Stroud posters?

Georgia trash is the new Clemson trash… one man’s trash is another man’s treasure I guess!
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Where did I ever say Georgia is trash?

In fact I wanted Caserio to draft WA and trade up like the Eagles did for Carter.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Burrow's problem was not that he lost time in TC. After his Grade II calf strain, he came back at the very lower limits of recovery. In the game, he was more like a statue than a mobile QB. And this is not even to mention how passing mechanics are affected without normal strength plant foot (and this was also quite evident in the game) And when He can be expected to not be "himself" until the 2nd half of the season..........and throughout the season re-injury risk is significantly increased.........respect the injury.
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Today, Burrow re-tore his calf.
 
badboy said:
sports.yahoo.com

Lions RB David Montgomery carted off with thigh injury vs. Seahawks, could be out 'a couple weeks'

Montgomery was having a huge day for the Lions until a Seahawks defender grabbed his foot during a tackle.
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Montgomery was having a huge day for the Lions until a Seahawks defender grabbed his foot during a tackle.
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They are calling this a quad bruise. But watching the play, I don't see a quad bruise mechanism. Instead I see a possible quad tendon tear. His quad was not directly hit. His knee was violently twisted while he was changing direction and attempting to escape the grasp of the defender.
 
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