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NOW THAT GAMBLING ON GAMES NOW LEGAL, HAS IT:
1] Encouraged "fixing" vs 2] Enhanced the NFL's coffers ?

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Penalty on Terry McLaurin is a very bad look for the NFL
Posted by Mike Florio on December 19, 2022, 4:49 PM EST

As explained in Playmakers, the NFL initially was alarmed by the NBA’s Tim Donaghy scandal. Eventually, the NFL decided that it’s impossible for one official to have enough of an impact on the outcome of a game to create any real concern that what happened to basketball could happen to football.

I’ve generally believed that, too. While it’s difficult for one official to deliver a win or a cover, there are ways for individual officials to nudge things in a given direction.

Mainly, the judgment calls provide the opening. Roughing the passer. Pass interference. Holding.

We all discovered another one last night, thanks to the away-from-the-ball, inconsequential illegal formation foul on Commanders receiver Terry McLaurin. Anyone who pays any reasonably close attention to football at any level knows that wideouts routinely communicate with officials to get in the right position, confirming that they are or aren’t lined up on or off the ball.

Obligation” or not, the closest official typically assists with the process. And for good reason. The players want to be properly lined up. And the officials don’t want to bog the game down with hypertechnical fouls regarding the pre-snap positioning of players on the fringes of the play.

Also, beyond the question of whether the pattern and practice has created a de facto obligation to help is the question of whether officials should ever affirmatively mislead receivers, by acting as if everything is fine when the player isn’t properly aligned.

Watch the video from last night. There’s something very strange about it. McLaurin seeks input, and he acts as if he got the input he was looking for. (We can only see the interaction; we can’t hear what was said.) Meanwhile, the official at one point puts his hand on his flag, lying in wait to nullify the outcome of the play.

And this wasn’t a first and 10 at midfield. This was a short-yardage, goal-line situation. The flag that the official seemingly couldn’t wait to throw took the potential game-tying touchdown off the board.

Is it ultimately on the player to be in the right spot? Yes. But an official with a history of helping should be expected to continue to do so. At a minimum, the official should be expected to not create the false impression that the player is properly in place — while resting his hand on the flag like a cowboy getting ready to draw and fire his six-shooter.

Whatever the explanation, it’s a bad look for the NFL, because it demonstrates that, yes, Virginia (and Maryland and D.C.), there is a pathway for serious officiating shenanigans.

I continue to believe the NFL isn’t rigged, in the sense that the NFL doesn’t ever “want” specific teams to win or lose. I worry that a given official could, given the prevalence and ease of legalized gambling, get sufficiently swept up in it to corrupt objectivity and fairness.

And, frankly, it’s exhausting to be on the front line of trying to tell fans who think that, for example, the league office doesn’t want Daniel Snyder’s team in the playoffs.

The league office doesn’t have to fight those battles. There’s no public accountability. It makes none of its employees available for meaningful interrogation. The pool reporters typically ask the right questions, but the league official who is interviewed immediately after the game says whatever needs to be said to get past the issue, while the league awaits the next bright, shiny object that will change the subject.

At some point, there will be a controversy sufficiently significant to prevent the subject from being changed by the next game on the schedule. Here’s hoping the NFL wakes up and cleans up its backyard before that happens.
 
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That's a huge leap from a linesman not helping with a spot to an official throwing a game. The WR was clearly of the line, he knew he was off. He would have moved up, but there's a man about to go in motion. A bad break, but that's what can happen if you call a play with that many moving parts in a goal line situation.

Really an irresponsible article.
 
That's a huge leap from a linesman not helping with a spot to an official throwing a game. The WR was clearly of the line, he knew he was off. He would have moved up, but there's a man about to go in motion. A bad break, but that's what can happen if you call a play with that many moving parts in a goal line situation.

Really an irresponsible article.

I thought the ref was being a bit ticky tacky even though I agree completely that McLaurin was clearly off the LOS.

It's just taken for granted that once the ref and wr sort of acknowledge one another then that's just good enough, but this dude was pretty explicitly signaling that the LOS was further forward than where McLaurin was positioned. And I think McLaurin then just assumed that he'd inched forward enough but this ref wasn't playing.

Yes, technically McLaurin was in an illegal formation by the letter of the law, but I think by the spirit of the law a flag wasn't necessary.

Ultimately it's got f*ck all to do with fixing games..
 
Robert Kraft invites Patriots fan to game after being berated by an angry ugly POS Raider fan. They need to find this woman on the video and ban her from the stadium.
It would be impossible for me to maintain my composure like this Patriot fan did.
 
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Tough position to be in. Wants elite QB money but is not an elite passer. One of the best weapons in the NFL however as hybrid QB/RB. But RB position intentionally undervalued due to injury risk. Nobody wants to pay a franchise QB 50 million guaranteed if he has a higher risk of injury in a 17 game season playing in a way he will be most effective. I suspect Baltimore and Jackson will compromise this offseason. Or Jackson will suffer an injury substantial enough to force the compromise.
 
How much draft compensation do you think it would cost Texans to get Payton (and Fangio)? Obviously Payton would have to want to come here (not likely). But just dreaming for a moment… would be a stellar start to a coaching staff. Proven offensive and defensive minds to coach up whatever talent is acquired. Would certainly prefer Payton to Pep’s “No Coast Offense”. And Fangio is one of the best defensive minds in the NFL.



To give you an idea of what Saints may be looking for in a trade see Gruden’s deal to go from Raiders to Bucs. Two firsts, two seconds and 8 million. Steep price but they won a Super Bowl the first season with him.

 
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How much draft compensation do you think it would cost Texans to get Payton (and Fangio)? Obviously Payton would have to want to come here (not likely). But just dreaming for a moment… would be a stellar start to a coaching staff. Proven offensive and defensive minds to coach up whatever talent is acquired. Would certainly prefer Payton to Pep’s “No Coast Offense”. And Fangio is one of the best defensive minds in the NFL.



To give you an idea of what Saints may be looking for in a trade see Gruden’s deal to go from Raiders to Bucs. Two firsts, two seconds and 8 million. Steep price but they won a Super Bowl the first season with him.

Tough call, the Texans could be giving up high premium picks and/or the gains from the DW trade and they need all the draft picks they can get to improve the current roster. On a side note, I wonder why Payton's OC for most of those years, Pete Carmichael, hasn't been brought up around the league for HC opportunities.
 
Tough call, the Texans could be giving up high premium picks and/or the gains from the DW trade and they need all the draft picks they can get to improve the current roster. On a side note, I wonder why Payton's OC for most of those years, Pete Carmichael, hasn't been brought up around the league for HC opportunities.

Bad interview like Bienemy?
 
I think going to a team like the Rams would be perfect for Wilson. An offensive mind to build him back up while waiting behind Stafford and learning for a year. But good insurance if Stafford doesn’t get healthy.

Is there another Mike Mcdaniel out there to build a QB back up who lost their confidence? Seems like a similar situation to what happened with Tua last season.

 
I’d say this is a sure thing. Unless someone gets silly and makes him HC again:


Similar to when he was with the Texans, whenever Albert Breer is "reporting" anything related to BOB, it comes from either O'Brien or his agent. Breer has been linking the Patriots and BOB for months. If you Google, "bill o'brien albert breer", you will notice a pattern of Breer always mentioning BOB and a job opening.

Albert Breer: Bill O'Brien reunion is "absolutely" in play for the Patriots (985thesportshub.com)
Albert Breer: I think Bill O'Brien is interested in Patriots | Flipboard
Matt on Instagram: “According to Albert Breer, Former Texans Head Coach Bill O’Brien is at the “top of the list” for the Patriots head coaching job whenever…”

 
Tua is in concussion protocol

He needs to retire to save his health
Tua has been mismanaged from the beginning. Even if you are lucky to not get hit again when allowed to return to the game after a misdiagnosis (as in the case of Tua's first NFL concussion), just by staying in the game, you double your brain recovery time from the added metabolic stress of physical activity, The feeling by most trauma surgeons like myself is that if you suffer a string of at least 3 concussions, it should serve as a “warning sign” to call it quits and switch to another, safer sport. Three concussions in 3 months is easily considered a string. Let's not forget that you can be sure that in highschool and college he would have had additional unreported concussions (as highschools and colleges are less focused on recognizing and reporting concussions, especially before the days prior to the major publicity regarding concussions and CTE.) One last point to make when looking at Tua as a candidate to quit football..........his long string of injuries in college alone, especially his hip fracture, the type of which significant arthritis inevitably is just about now ready to make its ugly appearance.
 
Tua has been mismanaged from the beginning. Even if you are lucky to not get hit again when allowed to return to the game after a misdiagnosis (as in the case of Tua's first NFL concussion), just by staying in the game, you double your brain recovery time from the added metabolic stress of physical activity, The feeling by most trauma surgeons like myself is that if you suffer a string of at least 3 concussions, it should serve as a “warning sign” to call it quits and switch to another, safer sport. Three concussions in 3 months is easily considered a string. Let's not forget that you can be sure that in highschool and college he would have had additional unreported concussions (as highschools and colleges are less focused on recognizing and reporting concussions, especially before the days prior to the major publicity regarding concussions and CTE.) One last point to make when looking at Tua as a candidate to quit football..........his long string of injuries in college alone, especially his hip fracture, the type of which significant arthritis inevitably is just about now ready to make its ugly appearance.
I heard on the radio tonight that he got a concussion when he broke his hip. So that would make at least 4 concussions.
 
I heard on the radio tonight that he got a concussion when he broke his hip. So that would make at least 4 concussions.
I was concentrating on the recent string of concussions. But since you brought it up :tiphat:, on the play that Tua broke his hip, he also sustained a broken nose as well as a concussion. The concussion left him confused and mostly oblivious to his hip pain, and explains why he was originally stood up to be helped off the field. The on-field medical team was unaware of his hip pain when they stood him up and when it was clear the injury was more significant than a broken nose and concussion, only then was the cart called over.
 
Tua has been mismanaged from the beginning. Even if you are lucky to not get hit again when allowed to return to the game after a misdiagnosis (as in the case of Tua's first NFL concussion), just by staying in the game, you double your brain recovery time from the added metabolic stress of physical activity, The feeling by most trauma surgeons like myself is that if you suffer a string of at least 3 concussions, it should serve as a “warning sign” to call it quits and switch to another, safer sport. Three concussions in 3 months is easily considered a string. Let's not forget that you can be sure that in highschool and college he would have had additional unreported concussions (as highschools and colleges are less focused on recognizing and reporting concussions, especially before the days prior to the major publicity regarding concussions and CTE.) One last point to make when looking at Tua as a candidate to quit football..........his long string of injuries in college alone, especially his hip fracture, the type of which significant arthritis inevitably is just about now ready to make its ugly appearance.
The reason I made the statement that is bolded above is because the Concussion Protocol has failed Tua again. On Sunday late in the 2nd Q, it was evident that Tua's head took a significant hit against the turf. Despite this, no one checked him out for a concussion then..............and today he was in the Concussion Protocol. It was quite evident that from the time of the hit to the head, his performance went right down the tubes.........capped by three 4th Q INTs.
 
The reason I made the statement that is bolded above is because the Concussion Protocol has failed Tua again. On Sunday late in the 2nd Q, it was evident that Tua's head took a significant hit against the turf. Despite this, no one checked him out for a concussion then..............and today he was in the Concussion Protocol. It was quite evident that from the time of the hit to the head, his performance went right down the tubes.........capped by three 4th Q INTs.
Do you ever see a point where someone can clear the concussion protocol, but they have had so many the NFL forces a medical retirement? I'm sure this would have to be negotiated in the CBA.
 
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