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Man, this is crazy. I'm here in Malta and decided to scan the channels on TV and had to jump over to German channels and stumbled onto the game. I get to see the game while my wife sleeps but I've got to listen to it in German.....and i don't understand German.
Still better than listening to Spencer Tillman.
 
Looks like the vikes are going down.

Hell the main story might be the eagles fans. They seem to be in full form today
 
If Brady gets a 6th ring, don't look for anyone else in our lifetimes to repeat that. Unless Brady gets a 7th, which would be truly disgusting.

Buzzards and Patsies in the SB, I'm not even remotely interested.
 
Eagles have a chance vs Pats. Defense will need to pummel Brady and Foles will need a clean game. Pats aren’t a juggernaut.
 
The Patriots were the last team to win back-to-back Super Bowls with a win in Houston and a win over Philadelphia.

Here they are with a chance to do it again with a win in Houston last year and Philadelphia on the schedule.
 
How did two of the Jaguars most effective, disruptive defenders (Darius and Jack) both sustain lower extremitie injury’s late in contest before Patriot winning drive?
 
Man, this is crazy. I'm here in Malta and decided to scan the channels on TV and had to jump over to German channels and stumbled onto the game. I get to see the game while my wife sleeps but I've got to listen to it in German.....and i don't understand German.

The German announcers in studio were a blast to listen to, even though I didn't understand a dang word. They were into the football game like a bunch of guys sitting in the living room.

As for the game, the Jags only have themselves to blame. The got up 14-3 and went conservative on the next few drives instead of keeping their foot on the pedal. Bortles and the offense looked unstoppable. They could've kept going and then leaned on Fournette in the 4th quarter to burn the clock, not initiate that protocol in the 2nd quarter. That decision took the momentum away from the offense.

Way to late to watch the whole Vikings - Eagles game but I did watch Keenum take them down the field on the first drive. I said to myself, ok I'm going to bed. It looks like the Vikings made it look too easy. I just looked at the outcome....guess that wa stheir only drive of the night. Good season Case, enjoy your next contract!!!
 
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Quick whistle may have robbed Myles Jack of a fumble recovery touchdown
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 22, 2018, 9:26 AM EST


Jaguars linebacker Myles Jack made a sensational play in the AFC Championship Game when he ran down Patriots running back Dion Lewis, forced a fumble and recovered it. But did the officials rob Jack of an even more sensational play?

After recovering the ball on the ground, Jack got up and started sprinting down the field, appearing to have a clear path to the end zone. The officials immediately blew the play dead, however, ruling Jack down by contact as soon as he recovered.

The question is whether Jack actually had made contact with Lewis after he recovered the fumble. And replays indicate that he may not have: Jack was still grasping for the ball as he rolled over and away from Lewis and didn’t appear to have possession of the ball until he was free of Lewis and not near any other Patriots. Jack clearly didn’t think he was down, which is why he got up and started sprinting for what could have been a touchdown.

The play was reviewed, but only as to the question of whether it was a fumble and whether the Jaguars recovered. It clearly was a fumble and Jack clearly did recover. But there could be no review of whether Jack was down by contact after recovering the ball because the officials had blown the play dead. Once a play is blown dead, nothing that happens after that can be changed in instant replay.

If the officials had allowed the play to continue, Jack may very well have run for a touchdown that would have given the Jaguars a 27-10 lead with less than 14 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. It’s possible the Patriots still could have come back and won, but it would have been a whole lot harder if they were behind by three possessions instead of two.

The official who blew the play dead may have had a better view than the TV cameras of where Jack and Lewis were at the time Jack recovered the fumble, or he may have just assumed Jack was touched down because he saw Jack and Lewis going to the ground right next to each other. If the officials would err on the side of letting a play go, it would allow replay to fix any mistakes. But when asked about the play, the league office told PFT that officials are supposed to call what they see, and not let a play go just because they might get corrected on replay.

“The ruling on the field was a fumble, recovered by the defense. Because a whistle was blown, there could be no advance of the fumble, and that ended the play,” NFL spokesman Michael Signora told PFT via email. “Replay was used to determine if in fact it was a fumble and/or if the player was down by contact, but no advance of the fumble could be added at this point. The officials are instructed to officiate as to what they see on the field, not to replay.”

This play was blown dead, and it may have cost the Jaguars a touchdown that could have been the difference between a loss and a trip to the Super Bowl.
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Did anyone see how at the end of the game, the refs came up to Brady congratulating him on the win?................that didn't sit very well with me.
 
Quick whistle may have robbed Myles Jack of a fumble recovery touchdown
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 22, 2018, 9:26 AM EST


Jaguars linebacker Myles Jack made a sensational play in the AFC Championship Game when he ran down Patriots running back Dion Lewis, forced a fumble and recovered it. But did the officials rob Jack of an even more sensational play?

After recovering the ball on the ground, Jack got up and started sprinting down the field, appearing to have a clear path to the end zone. The officials immediately blew the play dead, however, ruling Jack down by contact as soon as he recovered.

The question is whether Jack actually had made contact with Lewis after he recovered the fumble. And replays indicate that he may not have: Jack was still grasping for the ball as he rolled over and away from Lewis and didn’t appear to have possession of the ball until he was free of Lewis and not near any other Patriots. Jack clearly didn’t think he was down, which is why he got up and started sprinting for what could have been a touchdown.

The play was reviewed, but only as to the question of whether it was a fumble and whether the Jaguars recovered. It clearly was a fumble and Jack clearly did recover. But there could be no review of whether Jack was down by contact after recovering the ball because the officials had blown the play dead. Once a play is blown dead, nothing that happens after that can be changed in instant replay.

If the officials had allowed the play to continue, Jack may very well have run for a touchdown that would have given the Jaguars a 27-10 lead with less than 14 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. It’s possible the Patriots still could have come back and won, but it would have been a whole lot harder if they were behind by three possessions instead of two.

The official who blew the play dead may have had a better view than the TV cameras of where Jack and Lewis were at the time Jack recovered the fumble, or he may have just assumed Jack was touched down because he saw Jack and Lewis going to the ground right next to each other. If the officials would err on the side of letting a play go, it would allow replay to fix any mistakes. But when asked about the play, the league office told PFT that officials are supposed to call what they see, and not let a play go just because they might get corrected on replay.

“The ruling on the field was a fumble, recovered by the defense. Because a whistle was blown, there could be no advance of the fumble, and that ended the play,” NFL spokesman Michael Signora told PFT via email. “Replay was used to determine if in fact it was a fumble and/or if the player was down by contact, but no advance of the fumble could be added at this point. The officials are instructed to officiate as to what they see on the field, not to replay.”

This play was blown dead, and it may have cost the Jaguars a touchdown that could have been the difference between a loss and a trip to the Super Bowl.
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Did anyone see how at the end of the game, the refs came up to Brady congratulating him on the win?................that didn't sit very well with me.


THey're always looking for some sort of angle to discredit the Pats from being better. That was no fumble what so ever. One of the worst calls I've ever seen. The NFL still can't figure out what a catch or a fumble is, because that one was not.
 
I thought it was a hard lesson for the young jags to learn. Can't go talking alot of mess and trying to play mind games with Darth Vader and the Emperor. Brady and Belicheck are just too cool under pressure. "We gonna win that *****" .. well Jalen you are a star. Maybe take some pointers from players before you on how to act like you've been there before.

Y'all hear AJ Bouye crying a river about officiating? You can almost taste that irony.
 
I thought it was a hard lesson for the young jags to learn. Can't go talking alot of mess and trying to play mind games with Darth Vader and the Emperor. Brady and Belicheck are just too cool under pressure. "We gonna win that *****" .. well Jalen you are a star. Maybe take some pointers from players before you on how to act like you've been there before.

Y'all hear AJ Bouye crying a river about officiating? You can almost taste that irony.
Another example of "If you want to BE the champ, you have to BEAT the champ. Whining about it after just makes you look sad.
 
Bill Belichick-Bill Parcells relationship gets the 30 for 30 treatment
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 22, 2018, 6:43 PM EST


Bill Belichick is getting ready to try to win his sixth Super Bowl with the Patriots. But a victory at Super Bowl LII would actually earn Belichick his eighth Super Bowl ring, as he won two as defensive coordinator for Bill Parcells with the Giants.

The long relationship between Belichick and Parcells is explored in the new 30 for 30 documentary The Two Bills, which premieres on ESPN on February 1.
It details the decades-long relationship with the two men, which started when Belichick applied for a job on Parcells’ staff at Air Force, moved to Belichick working for Parcells with the Giants, saw them coach against each other when Belichick was in Cleveland and Parcells was in New England, and then saw Belichick work for Parcells again with the Jets before leaving for the Patriots.

The documentary alternates back and forth between NFL Films footage of their time coaching in the 1980s and 1990s, and a recent joint interview the two men gave. Both men seem to agree that Parcells was the better coach when it came to relating to and motivating players, while Belichick was the superior strategist. Parcells credits Belichick for the game plans that shut down Bill Walsh’s offense in San Francisco and Joe Gibbs’ offense in Washington. Belichick says in the recent interview that he appreciates Parcells calling him aside from time to time and teaching him other aspects of being a head coach.

“I so appreciate what you did, Bill,” Belichick told Parcells. “Periodically I’d go into your office and you’d say, ‘I just want you to know what’s going on.’ . . . The draft, maybe a player’s got a discipline problem or a contract problem, when you’re a defensive coordinator you don’t know about all that, but Bill would tell me what’s going on. I really appreciate you doing that. It helped open my eyes to some things that I really wasn’t playing much attention to.”
THE REST OF THE STORY
 
Wow. There isn't a bit of the ball in his hand. What definition of fumble are you using?

You'd have to be blind not to see him holding the ball against his hip/leg. He never lost possession where he didn't have it clutched up against him or in his hands. He was tackled and the play was over. Somehow on that play, a fumble was allowed after a man was down.
 
NFL Rules said:
ARTICLE 7. PLAYER POSSESSION
Item 1. Player in Possession. A player is in possession when he is inbounds and has a firm grip and control of the ball with his hands or arms.

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He had a firm jack sh!t with anything. The ball was moving all over.

Your Patriots fan goggles are clouding your judgement.
 
You'd have to be blind not to see him holding the ball against his hip/leg. He never lost possession where he didn't have it clutched up against him or in his hands. He was tackled and the play was over. Somehow on that play, a fumble was allowed after a man was down.
That's the definition they NFL is using now days. If the ball is moving around then the player no longer has control of it. How many catches - great catches to me - were wiped out because the ball moved a little as the guy was going to the ground.
I don't like it either but that's how they call it now days.
 
That's the definition they NFL is using now days. If the ball is moving around then the player no longer has control of it. How many catches - great catches to me - were wiped out because the ball moved a little as the guy was going to the ground.
I don't like it either but that's how they call it now days.

I get and agree with the complaints where the ball shifts slightly within someone's palm, but there was no part of his hand on the ball. It's neither gripped nor controlled.
 
I get and agree with the complaints where the ball shifts slightly within someone's palm, but there was no part of his hand on the ball. It's neither gripped nor controlled.
Kinda reminds one of when Hegman stole the ball from Bradshaw in the SB except Bradshaw was clearly still standing up
 
That's the definition they NFL is using now days. If the ball is moving around then the player no longer has control of it. How many catches - great catches to me - were wiped out because the ball moved a little as the guy was going to the ground.
I don't like it either but that's how they call it now days.

Easier to rig games?
 
That's the definition they NFL is using now days. If the ball is moving around then the player no longer has control of it. How many catches - great catches to me - were wiped out because the ball moved a little as the guy was going to the ground.
I don't like it either but that's how they call it now days.

That wasn't a play to determine if it was a catch. That was whether or not if that guy had possession or not all because a guy slapped at the ball. The fact is he never lost possession. I've seen dozens of plays where a ball carrier juggles the ball somewhat from defenders trying to strip him especially in large piles and as long as they make it to the ground with possession they almost always give the ball back ruling that the player was down before the ball officially became loose.
 
Truth hurts.

You guessing it doesn't make it true.

Hell you even screwed the pooch on your example:

Do a history search on the NFL, it was started up by a bunch of gamblers. Art Rooney Sr. started the Steelers up with $$$$ he won at the horse track.

Art Rooney graduated in 1918 and was a paid athlete and manager until he paid $2500 for the football franchise. He won $160k in 1936.

And what, gambling automatically means you are unethical and law breaking enough to rig games?

How'd your last trip to the casino go?
 
Shocker: Colts intend to hire Josh McDaniels
January 28, 2018, 7:59 AM EST

Apparently, the worst-kept secret in football was still a secret to some.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that, after on Friday’s “second interview” with Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, the Colts intend to hire him after the Super Bowl. While that’s technically true, the Colts also intended to hire him before Friday’s “second interview.” And he intended to take the job before Friday’s “second interview.”

The Colts had two choices for the job: McDaniels and new Titans coach Mike Vrabel. And it became clear roughly two weeks ago that the Colts wanted McDaniels and McDaniels wanted the Colts. The report that McDaniels will become the new Colts coach first emerged two Mondays ago, not long after the Tennessee job (another possible McDaniels destination) came open.

While none of these deals are official until they are official, it would take something unprecedented to pry the two sides apart at this point. Most coaching candidates are represented by a small handful of agents, and once the team and agent agree that a deal is done, the deal has to be done — or it will be impossible for that team and that agent to ever do business again.

So, yes, McDaniels will be introduced as the new coach of the Colts after the Super Bowl. It’s true after Friday’s “second interview,” and it was true 11 days before it.
 
Titans hired ex-Ravens DC Dean Pees as defensive coordinator.

Pees retired as the Ravens' defensive coordinator right after the season but was convinced to join the Titans by new coach Mike Vrabel. Pees led the Ravens defense to top 12 finishes in total defense and scoring defense in five of his six years in charge. He's a really good get for Vrabel and should continue to use the 3-4 base look that ex-DC Dick LeBeau featured. The likely draw for Pees in Tennessee was the permission to hire his son, a high school coach, to his staff. Now that Vrabel has his DC, the Titans more importantly need an OC.


Source: Cameron Wolfe on Twitter
Jan 29 - 9:59 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football-player-news?rw=1
 
49ers block Titans from talking to DeMeco Ryans
Posted by Charean Williams on January 30, 2018, 4:00 PM EST


The Titans wanted to talk to DeMeco Ryans. The 49ers said no, via Jason Wolf of The Tennessean.

The 49ers value Ryans, the former NFL linebacker who, in his role as a first-year defensive quality control coach, served as a mentor for Reuben Foster.

Ryans, 33, played 10 seasons in the league, winning the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Year award in 2006 and twice earning Pro Bowl honors. During Ryans’ six years in Houston, Kyle Shanahan and Robert Saleh were on the Texans’ staff.

Saleh has called Ryans a future head coach, saying “I’ll be asking him for a job, I’m sure, not long from now,” via Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle.
 
Sources: Chiefs agree to trade quarterback Alex Smith to Redskins
The Washington Redskins and Kansas City Chiefs have engaged in the first blockbuster of the 2018 offseason. The Redskins will acquire quarterback Alex Smith, ESPN has confirmed, allowing them to part ways with previous starter Kirk Cousins.

The Kansas City Star first reported the trade, which can't become official until the start of the league year on March 14. The Redskins would give Kansas City a third-round pick and Redskins cornerback Kendall Fuller as compensation, sources told ESPN. ESPN's Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen also reported that Smith would sign a four-year extension with the Redskins, averaging $23.5 million per year with $71 million in guaranteed money.


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Michael Vick was the ultimate X factor
The first black quarterback drafted first overall revolutionized the NFL

By Aaron Dodson @aardodson
January 26, 2018


In the summer of 2004, the Tennessee Titans got their first up-close-and-personal look at the human highlight reel that was Michael Vick.
The Atlanta Falcons had made the 250-mile trip for a set of joint practices with the Titans in Nashville, Tennessee, and Vick, the 24-year-old superstar quarterback, put on an absolute show.

By then, he’d already played for the national title at Virginia Tech, been named to the Pro Bowl in just his second year in the NFL and led the Falcons to a road playoff win over Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field.

But in a 2003 regular-season game between Atlanta and Tennessee, the lone matchup between the two teams during his first three years in the league, Vick had sat out while recovering from a broken right leg he suffered in the preseason.

On that practice field in Nashville, though? Vick showed the Titans what they avoided the season before. “In three days of practice, they couldn’t stop me, or contain me,” Vick recalled. “So I could only imagine what I would’ve done in a real game.”

After one session, Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck approached Vick and mustered the words to explain what the quarterback was capable of doing.

“You’re the X factor,” Vick, now 37, remembers Bulluck telling him. THE REST OF THE STORY
 
Fox has agreed to pay (first announced at $500 million.........then $550 million...........now ) $660 million (per Adam Schefter) for the privilege of showing 11 Thursday Night Football games this year.
 
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The Fox Thursday Night Football deal is for 5 years....................Thursday Night Football is evidently going nowhere anytime soon. Probably won't make the players very happy.
 
The Fox Thursday Night Football deal is for 5 years....................Thursday Night Football is evidently going nowhere anytime soon. Probably won't make the players very happy.
In an aggressive bid to reshape the Fox broadcast network into a more formidable sports powerhouse, Rupert Murdoch's media company agreed to pay an average $660 million a year for the rights to NFL "Thursday Night Football."
The NFL and 21st Century Fox on Wednesday announced the new five-year partnership, which kicks off this fall.
The $3.3-billion pact to televise Thursday games represents a big bet at a time when the NFL is facing multiple challenges that contributed to a nearly 10% drop in viewership during the just-ended regular season. But Fox is willing to spend heavily to turn its broadcast network into a showcase of live sports after it sells much of its entertainment empire to Walt Disney Co.
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But they'll be plenty happy cashing those big checks.
 
In an aggressive bid to reshape the Fox broadcast network into a more formidable sports powerhouse, Rupert Murdoch's media company agreed to pay an average $660 million a year for the rights to NFL "Thursday Night Football."
The NFL and 21st Century Fox on Wednesday announced the new five-year partnership, which kicks off this fall.
The $3.3-billion pact to televise Thursday games represents a big bet at a time when the NFL is facing multiple challenges that contributed to a nearly 10% drop in viewership during the just-ended regular season. But Fox is willing to spend heavily to turn its broadcast network into a showcase of live sports after it sells much of its entertainment empire to Walt Disney Co.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-fox-thursday-nfl-20180131-story.html
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But they'll be plenty happy cashing those big checks.
Not so much for the vets on existing contracts that are complaining about the effects on their bodies in these short week games. Also this will no longer be a player negotiating point when the NFL pushes for a longer regular season.
 
Not so much for the vets on existing contracts that are complaining about the effects on their bodies in these short week games. Also this will no longer be a player negotiating point when the NFL pushes for a longer regular season.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-ig...day-night-football-deal-192633655.html?exp=vv

NFL once again ignoring injury concerns with new 'Thursday Night Football' deal
Yahoo Sports • Eric Adelson • 19 hours ago



$3.3 billion deal to broadcast “Thursday Night Football.” After all, big dollars make for big headlines.


You probably did not hear the latest injury data from the NFL, released last week. After all, medical information tends not to be as buzzworthy.

But it should be.

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Richard Sherman lies injured on the turf during the second half of a “Thursday Night Football” game in November. Sherman suffered a season-ending leg injury. (AP)
The injury rate (per game) on weekend and Monday games stayed roughly the same from 2016 to 2017. The Thursday rate jumped from 5.3 to 6.9.
 
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