kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Get healthy
Get more explosive running backs
Better depth at CB
OL, OL, OL, OL
Get more explosive running backs
Better depth at CB
OL, OL, OL, OL
Venmo Texans Talk Tip Jar | Paypal Texans Talk Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍
I am liking this QT a lot - he got 110 yards off 11 receptions yesterday - he can only get better.I'm starting to wonder if BO'b even attends practice.
I think I really like our WRs. Hopkins, Fuller, QT, Carter, Smythe... I might take a flyer on a late round speed guy, bolster the practice squad a bit.
We have plenty of high picks and talent on this team too, it's debatable as to who has the greater on field quality. For me, the biggest difference yesterday was not the talent on the field.Have abstained from commenting still digesting what just happend. Best to say nothing in the heat of moment.
But will say this, it’s gonna be a hard road catching up the Colts. They have tanked post Manning to get franchise QB Luck, then when he went down, tanked enough to pile up and hit on several high end picks, notably OL, the hardest of all positions but most unheralded.
Also get a better OL coach, QB coach and OC.Get healthy
Get more explosive running backs
Better depth at CB
OL, OL, OL, OL
Hope your fantasy comes true!Hoping the Texans draft/Off season goes something like this. In my fantasy world, Clowney would be traded for a first and second rounder. The Texans need to completely rebuild that OL. Ford and Risner appear to be studs.
1. Byron Murphy(Washington)
1. Dalton Risner(Kansas State)
2. Cody Ford(Oklahoma)
2. Amani Oruwariye(Penn St)
Texans sign Trent Brown or JuWan James.
OL
Trent Brown...Rankin...Martin....Cody Ford....Dalton Risner
He’s a good player but as you said he’s miscast in this role and he’s got to go. I’m sure Foreman was envisioned as the next step but they have to keep looking. Another season of Lamar as the feature back is just another wasted year.
Let’s hope he can stay healthy.I am liking this QT a lot - he got 110 yards off 11 receptions yesterday - he can only get better.
I think Ford might go Rd 1 based on some of the scouting reports I’ve read.Hoping the Texans draft/Off season goes something like this. In my fantasy world, Clowney would be traded for a first and second rounder. The Texans need to completely rebuild that OL. Ford and Risner appear to be studs.
1. Byron Murphy(Washington)
1. Dalton Risner(Kansas State)
2. Cody Ford(Oklahoma)
2. Amani Oruwariye(Penn St)
Texans sign Trent Brown or JuWan James.
OL
Trent Brown...Rankin...Martin....Cody Ford....Dalton Risner
I think Ford might go Rd 1 based on some of the scouting reports I’ve read.Hoping the Texans draft/Off season goes something like this. In my fantasy world, Clowney would be traded for a first and second rounder. The Texans need to completely rebuild that OL. Ford and Risner appear to be studs.
1. Byron Murphy(Washington)
1. Dalton Risner(Kansas State)
2. Cody Ford(Oklahoma)
2. Amani Oruwariye(Penn St)
Texans sign Trent Brown or JuWan James.
OL
Trent Brown...Rankin...Martin....Cody Ford....Dalton Risner
And that's the issue people have with BOB, Won't swallow his pride and relinquish the play calling duties and hire an OC outside the organization someone like Adam Gase and he has to move on from Romeo Crennel. I think the game has passed him by defensively and he has to retire and get a young DC like Todd Bowles. I believe that is what's going to happen in order for this team to be a successful team with a QB. Next year, they are no excuses for Bill O' Brien
Miller can't stay healthy
Ok looking at next year first BoB isn't going anywhere and honestly I'm not sure he should. Stepping back from how embarrassing that last game was he has been trying to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. With Fuller and Coutee spending more time with the team doctor than the coaches the only WR we have worth a damn is Nuk. We all know this and if we know this you damn well better believe other teams know this.
That's what blows my mind about all this lynch mob stuff, all these weaknesses we point out, Oline, WRs, RBs, etc. We then act like other teams don't know about them and aren't able to take advantage of them. People I promise you every flaw we've seen they've seen and more on top of that.
Add to that this last draft we had no first round or second round and the FA market was looking like pretty slim pickings so you could only do so much to fix these holes. Again other teams know this when they look at us.
Despite what some on here think no other team looks at us and goes "ok boys here's our free win coming up" and yes other teams do fear us. Go spend some time on other team message boards right before they play us. I have never once seen any of them have a thread along the lines of "After we roll over the Texans we play...."
Now you can make the arguement that is where its BoB's job to overcome those weaknesses but he can't do miracles. The defense hasn't had near the injuries the offense had this year and they couldn't stop anything. Likewise he can't make backup WRs better catchers or piss poor linemen better blockers or stop Watson from holding the ball to long or taking off running at the drop of a hat. This ain't Madden he cant pause the game and take control of the QB then take control of the WR.
Is BoB a HoF coach, not in my book but then it doesn't take a HoF coach to win either. I would be fine with firing BoB and hell the whole staff if a Payton or Belichick were coming here but their not and from the list of possible replacements I'm not seeing any that would be worth the 2-3 years it would take for then to get their system in place.
Me I'm in the camp of see what they can do this year with a full range of draft picks and plenty of money. If next year we still blow it like this then it's time to seriously look at making a change.
Have abstained from commenting still digesting what just happend. Best to say nothing in the heat of moment.
But will say this, it’s gonna be a hard road catching up the Colts. They have tanked post Manning to get franchise QB Luck, then when he went down, tanked enough to pile up and hit on several high end picks, notably OL, the hardest of all positions but most unheralded.
It's not always the offensive lines fault-
Josh Allen and DeShaun Watson are holding onto the ball for WAY to long...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/9gv8bp/next_gen_qb_stats_completion_time_to_throw/
https://i.imgur.com/k4Hry2C.jpg
He's got great potential but the facts are what they are. I think he ranked 15th in QBR this season, good for a virtual rookie. It's unfortunate his worse NFL game was his first playoff game but it happens. I just think it's unfortunate he's handicapped by his head coach. Can you imagine what he could do with a great coach!Careful, criticizing Deshaun Watson is not allowed on here. It's either coaching or the offensive line's fault.
how do yall feel about letting Jackson and j joe go and having Kevin Johnson and whoever wins it on the other side be our starters
I just checked my penis is the same size today as it was yesterday.
Careful, criticizing Deshaun Watson is not allowed on here. It's either coaching or the offensive line's fault.
It's not always the offensive lines fault-
Josh Allen and DeShaun Watson are holding onto the ball for WAY to long...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/9gv8bp/next_gen_qb_stats_completion_time_to_throw/
https://i.imgur.com/k4Hry2C.jpg
You may need an emotional support animal?
"We" didn't lose anything - in no way do I take credit or shame for a teams wins or losses.
I just checked my penis is the same size today as it was yesterday.
.
2. Mercilus disappeared this season but did have some moments. I do think Mercilus' production could be replaced via the draft and it would be a player who's been an OLB throughout his college career. No more square blocks being rounded off so they fit into a round hole.
Toss in the Texans schedule next season and 2019 might be better used as the season to revamp the team with a proper mix of veterans and young talent who make gains against a really tough 2019 schedule.
I want to re-sign JJo and KJax while adding some rookie CB's and a veteran to the mix. JJo would remain a CB and KJax would become a FT Safety. Reid is going to be special, which in my book makes Badger expendable unless he's willing to accept a team friendly contract.....personally, I think Badger will look to find a team who has a better chance at winning right away. KJo needs to retire from football. He showed enough promise in his 1st season to completely avoid the "bust" tag but injuries and concussions have done him in as a football player. I also like Hal and see him as a solid veteran prescience. As for Wright, he should be spending the off-season recovering in the local Burn Unit and then be allowed to seek his career elsewhere.
The OL is the obvious black hole. This has to be addressed and has to be addressed as a priority. Everything OB wants to do on offense is directly linked to an effective OL and having 5 men who can handle the job. I think everyone across the OL could be replaced but, there's only so much that could be achieved in one off-season. First, sign a veteran LT to help bridge the new LT drafted. I would draft 3 to 4 OL in all hopes they have more upside than what's currently sucking the air out of the position. I do think some of the current OL could serve well as bridges to the rookies coming in but that would be it. OL would still be a priority in the 2020 Draft as well.
I see several positions needing an upgrade via FA or primarily through the draft. I think the Texans need another QB to groom, RB, WR, OLB, DE. I would add a TE but OB somehow figured out how not to use the best 2 drafted TE's by this team in quite some time. Griffin should've played his last game as a Texan but with OB......you never know. The Jordan's could be amazing with a season under their belts and a better OL so they can be incorporated into the passing attack.
I see assets on this team and ask myself, based on this season's production and the removal of the rose colored 11-5 film.....is this team truly going to be that much worse if those guys aren't here next season.
I think there would be takers out there for the following group:
1. Tag and Trade Clowney. I can find use for that cap space. I'd like to see what type of trade package of picks I could get for him. I'm thinking he could command a RD1, RD2 or RD3 and maybe a RD5. I could bundle some picks and try to make a trade with the Cardinals for Patrick Peterson. I could also try to deal Clowney for Peterson straight up and see if the Cardinals have any interest. Bottom line, Peterson would provide the team with an immediate shutdown CB. This move allows JJo to slide over and KJax to focus on FS. A couple of solid DB picks in the draft and suddenly the defensive backfield is truly healthy and has quality depth.
2. Mercilus disappeared this season but did have some moments. I do think Mercilus' production could be replaced via the draft and it would be a player who's been an OLB throughout his college career. No more square blocks being rounded off so they fit into a round hole. I would have no problem making him available in a trade. I think Mercilus could return a solid pick.....maybe a RD2 but more than likely a RD3.
3. Fuller has been a nice weapon when he's on the field. Problem, he's hardly ever on the field. I'd cut my losses here and call him a cap casualty and let another team see if they get the healthy version. I have no idea what he bring in return but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything major simply b/c of his injury history. He's like the ultra talented draft prospect.....injuries are a reality but the upside is too intriguing to ignore. He's done the same thing in the NFL. Is there any chance the Texans could find a bigger but just as fast version of Fuller in the draft.....yes, the draft is deep in receivers.
4. I'd like to see what Miller could bring in a trade but like Fuller I wouldn't hold out hope for anything major. Miller is just miscast in this offense and as long as OB is still the HC, he'll continue to use him as a power-back. I'd rather trade him and find the power-back OB covets for his system.
You'd think, given the Texans have played 3-4 for most of their existence, that Texans fans would know better. The majority of 3-4 OLBs were college 4-3 DEs. There's nothing square peg in a round hole to it. The primary pass rushers in a 4-3 are the DEs, in a 3-4 it's the OLBs. If anything it's more square peg in a round hole to take a college 4-3 OLB and expect him to become a primary pass rusher in a 3-4.
Kinda obvious from basic alignment:
Completely understand where you are coming from but for both Mercilus and Clowney, it took them both a couple of seasons to even sniff what Khalil Mack did....from their first season to the most current game. Mack was a LB in college and his transition was much quicker and dominant.
Mack played OLB is a rare college 3-4. There aren't enough of those to limit your draft picks to them.
Other than two opponents, Ind. will have the same exact schedule. Texans get NE at home, Ind. gets Miami. Texans get Balt. in the road, Ind. gets Pitts. Tennesee and Jacsonville both have the same schedule except the opponents of the divisions are reversed.
I wish people would stop declaring how much harder the Texans schedule is going to be. There is really very little difference, and it changes year to year. The AFCS was projected to be the weakest division yet wound up has the top winning division.
At the moment, who's better prepared to play those opponents? The Colts can compete but the Texans may be a couple seasons off. I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts and Chargers are the one's playing in the AFCCG.
i usually enjoy reading what you have to say OpTex, but honestly I dunno, get a little annoyed why several of you guys go over and over again and again the 2014 Draft, Clowney Draft ? It's history, that was 5 years ago this Spring.I'd take them where I can get them. Mack was my preferred selection when the Texans couldn't trade out of the RD1-01 pick. Had the Texans taken him instead of Clowney, every analyst would've shite their pants or lost their collective minds. The Texans spent plenty of time convincing themselves that Clowney could make the transition to OLB. I was pissed b/c they had just spent 2 seasons converting Mercilus to OLB and he still hadn't delivered a solid season until his 3rd season. Now they were going down the path again versus taking the best OLB in the draft. I just said, they succumbed to social pressure to take Clowney versus making the smart move and taking the BPA that filled a need position.
I think they were all ******* terrible on Saturday. An embarrassment and a joke. A horrendous, impotent "performance" if you could even call it such.
How's that?
i usually enjoy reading what you have to say OpTex, but honestly I dunno, get a little annoyed why several of you guys go over and over again and again the 2014 Draft, Clowney Draft ? It's history, that was 5 years ago this Spring.
Other than two opponents, Ind. will have the same exact schedule. Texans get NE at home, Ind. gets Miami. Texans get Balt. in the road, Ind. gets Pitts. Tennesee and Jacsonville both have the same schedule except the opponents of the divisions are reversed.
I wish people would stop declaring how much harder the Texans schedule is going to be. There is really very little difference, and it changes year to year. The AFCS was projected to be the weakest division yet wound up has the top winning division.
Sounds like the Colts whipping the Texans a** has ruined your life. I find that pretty amusing.
Indy is better than Houston, so they would be much better suited to handle the "exact same schedule". You see, since Indy is better, they won't lose to the teams that Houston will lose to.
The point you are missing in a huge way is that since you are playing a much more difficult schedule next year than you did this year, you can expect to win fewer games. Indy's schedule has nothing to do with anything.
Keep or not to keep?:
Texans Free Agents
CB Kareem Jackson, Age:31, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
FS Tyrann Mathieu, Age:27, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
OLB Jadeveon Clowney, Age:26, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
RT Seantrel Henderson, Age:27, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
CB Kayvon Webster, Age:28, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
DE Angelo Blackson, Age:26, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
QB/WR Joe Webb, Age:32, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
CB Shareece Wright, Age:32, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
ILB Brian Peters, Age:30, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
QB Brandon Weeden, Age:35, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
RB Alfred Blue, Age:28,Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
DT Brandon Dunn, Age:26, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
ILB Josh Keyes, Age:26, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
OT Kendall Lamm, Age:27, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
DE Christian Covington, Age:25, Status: Unrestricted Free Agent
ILB Tyrell Adams, Age:27, Status: Restricted Free Agent
DE Joel Heath, Age:26, Status: Restricted Free Agent
OLB Brennan Scarlett, Age:26, Status: Restricted Free Agent
K Ka’imi Fairbairn, Age:25, Status: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
WR DeAndre Carter, Age:26, Status: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
Unless replaced in FA or draft, keep the bolded
Pretty much agree except...
Something other than just walking needs to be done with Clowney.
Blue desparately needs replacement. Not a tall task. Marlon Mack was a 4th rounder. Somewhere 2nd to 4th draft a replacement. Sucks Foreman got injured but need to try again. Can't have a backfield entirely of blah & misused blah.
The Colts led 21-0 at halftime, and while Indy slowed considerably in the second half, the Texans couldn’t take advantage. Watson missed throw after throw in the fourth frame, and the Texans’ potential comeback fell well short. It’s another home playoff loss for head coach Bill O’Brien, who is now 1-3 in the postseason with the Texans—and that one win came against the Connor Cook–led Raiders. O’Brien landed a contract extension last January, but another disappointing playoff appearance makes his seat warm heading into 2019.
Beyond the team’s one-and-done playoff appearance, the Texans were also a disappointment for their complete inability to protect Watson. The Houston quarterback was sacked 62 times this season, the highest mark in the league. He went down on more than 10 percent of his dropbacks, more than the 8.5 percent of dropbacks that ended in a sack for him last year. To be fair, some of this is on Watson, as he tends to hold onto the ball. His average of 3.01 seconds before throwing is tied for the third-longest time in the league, behind only Josh Allen and Ryan Tannehill. Whether it’s getting better blockers or more quick-developing plays—or, ideally, both of those things—the Texans have to find a way to make sure Watson doesn’t take 62 more sacks in 2019.
Free Agency
The Texans defense will need to be retooled this offseason. Defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, safety Tyrann Mathieu, corner Kareem Jackson, and defensive end Brandon Dunn are all set to become unrestricted free agents. So while the Texans have the sixth-most effective cap space ($69.6 million) per Over the Cap, they also have plenty of work to do on the roster.
Of that group, Clowney is the crown jewel—and also the most likely player to leave this offseason. While he hasn’t quite lived up to his billing as the no. 1 pick in the 2014 NFL draft, Clowney is an athletic marvel who has made the Pro Bowl in each of his last three seasons, recording 24.5 sacks in that span. The Texans could franchise tag him for an estimated $17.9 million, and they’ve said that they want to keep Clowney on the squad. But a franchise tag would be a hefty sum to pay, and Houston would be in the same spot next year. Clowney will get paid eventually—just look at the deals that Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald got to see how teams value pass rushers. It’s just a matter of who will shell out for him.
Mathieu was brought over in the offseason from Arizona, and he’s more than lived up to his one-year, $7 million deal. The 26-year-old defensive back defended eight passes and recorded two picks, earning the 17th-best grade for a safety from Pro Football Focus. Like Clowney, the Texans want to keep Mathieu, but considering he left the Cardinals over a contract dispute, he won’t come cheap.
Jackson and Dunn won’t be nearly as expensive, but they’re still reliable starters. The Texans will either have to pay them or replace them.
The Draft
The Texans will draft between 21st and 24th, depending on how the rest of the wild-card round plays out. They also have the Seahawks’ second-round pick, which gives the team a decent amount of draft capital. Houston’s biggest need is along the offensive line, and a tackle like Kansas State’s Dalton Risner, Florida’s Jawaan Taylor, or West Virginia’s Yodny Cajuste could be the ideal fit
I just hope Watson survives another year of OBriens OL.
Anyone who is attaching someone’s name to a particular part of the team, is seeking blame rather than looking for improvement.