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TheRealJoker

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I thought I already posted a reply but it disappeared? If it shows up again I apologize. My comment was a pre draft NC comment that he, NC, has a body style that he likes for every position.( Lopez has that low Mongo base for moving a piano or an OL. )Said he’s really strong like you indicated. He loved the fact that he was a wrestler.
Wrestling is an excellent base for interior OL/DL coming into the NFL. Very happy they got two former state champs in Britt and Lopez this offseason.

Lopez just needs to drop anchor and not get pushed back while clogging up rushing lanes and allowing the LBs to flow to the ball.
 

vtech9

Veteran
OK, having finished looking over our defensive players, I've come up with my starting 11. Plus, in parenthesis, I've included a few close alternatives at some of the positions. And I've included a 12th position, my Nickle DB.

Having looked at this potential starting group, I'm really beginning to like this Tampa 2 defensive unit. There's been several posters who really disparage our defense, based on last years results and the addition of so many, what they call, JAGS. But this starting group is really looking good in my opinion.

RDE...Whitney Mercilus (Jonathan Greenard)(DeMarcus Walker)
DT....Charles Omenihu (Ross Blacklock)
NT....Roy Lopez (Jaleel Johnson)
LDE...Shaq Lawson

WILL LB...Kamu Grugier-Hill (Kevin Pierre-Louis)
MIKE LB...Zack Cunningham
SAM LB....Christian Kirksey

CB...Terrance Mitchell
CB...Bradley Roby
SS...Lonnie Johnson
FS...Justin Reid

Nickle DB...Terrence Brooks
I think Maleik Collins will be in there on passing downs on the DL. If used correctly, he can be a beast. He was not used correctly while on the Raiders.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
Trevor Lawrence has never impressed me. Didn’t wow me when he was at Clemson, and his NFL preseason performance was mediocre. I think our thrift store level defense can get a few picks off his Blake Bortles 2.0 arse!
I think for Lawrence and Tua they got a bit overhyped winning the national championship as freshmen starters on stacked super teams. Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck are still the standard as top QB prototype prospects out of college despite not having the win/loss record of Lawrence and Tua.

Heck check out Mahomes’ record as a starter at Texas Tech… would Tua/Lawrence done better than Mahomes on those Tech teams?
 

Texansballer74

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I think for Lawrence and Tua they got a bit overhyped winning the national championship as freshmen starters on stacked super teams. Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck are still the standard as top QB prototype prospects out of college despite not having the win/loss record of Lawrence and Tua.

Heck check out Mahomes’ record as a starter at Texas Tech… would Tua/Lawrence done better than Mahomes on those Tech teams?
They probably would because of the type of offense that was employed and that team was stacked with offensive weapons.
 

Speedy

Former Yeller Dweller
I think for Lawrence and Tua they got a bit overhyped winning the national championship as freshmen starters on stacked super teams. Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck are still the standard as top QB prototype prospects out of college despite not having the win/loss record of Lawrence and Tua.

Heck check out Mahomes’ record as a starter at Texas Tech… would Tua/Lawrence done better than Mahomes on those Tech teams?
The Chiefs also had the luxury of sitting Mahomes for a year. The Jags, Dolphins, and even the Colts with Luck and Manning, didn't have that luxury. Maybe the Dolphins could have with Fitz there. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Mahomes seems to have benefitted from it. Manning struggled early on. Luck did too for that matter, 23/18 TD/INT, 76.5 passer rating his 1st year. But then you've got Herbert doing what he did last year.

Then you've got great college QBs whose games never translate in the NFL (see Tebow). Will Lawrence's game translate? Who knows? There's been plenty of 1st round picks where it hasn't (Rosen, Trubisky, Mariota, Manziel, Bortles, Locker, Gabbert, etc.)

Lawrence does have a nice collection of receivers in Chark, Jones and Shenault. Despite losing Etienne, Robinson should still give them a decent run game. Some good nasties up front with Cam, Taylor and Norwell. I think it's set up pretty well for him to succeed. I mean, as well as could be expected for a team that was 1-15 last year.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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Trevor Lawrence has never impressed me. Didn’t wow me when he was at Clemson, and his NFL preseason performance was mediocre. I think our thrift store level defense can get a few picks off his Blake Bortles 2.0 arse!
I don't watch college football... so, I don't know.

But... 300 yards & 3 TDs in his opener.

Three Ints, Three drops, 50+ passing attempts for a rookie...

I'm assuming he's going to get better. Our defense needs to get better to play this guy twice a year for the foreseeable future.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
I don't watch college football... so, I don't know.

But... 300 yards & 3 TDs in his opener.

Three Ints, Three drops, 50+ passing attempts for a rookie...

I'm assuming he's going to get better. Our defense needs to get better to play this guy twice a year for the foreseeable future.
After getting down 34-7 he found his garbage time points and yards. Classic Bortles performance!
 

SnakeEyes

Under NRG
Lawrence is going to get better. He did play ok after the game was won. Question is was it garbage time or was it just he finally got it together? He played like Bottles in this one, no question. However, if he doesn't improve by mid season, I will be shocked. True, he went to Clemson, may have some skeletons in the closet.

Our D as a unit played well. However, they are going to have to be better than what we saw. INTs are nice, but they were on a rookie. We need more pressure, be it from current players or next draft. And 2 DBs I feel are needed. Reid is good but I would take another S that is as good as Reid seems to be. And another CB that can shut down the full one side would be awesome. Not sure if anyone like that is going to be coming out this year.
 
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steelbtexan

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Lawrence is going to get better. He did play ok after the game was won. Question is was it garbage time or was it just he finally got it together? He played like Bottles in this one, no question. However, if he doesn't improve by mid season, I will be shocked. True, he went to Clemson, may have some skeletons in the closet.

Our D as a unit played well. However, they are going to have to be better than what we saw. INTs are nice, but they were on a rookie. We need more pressure, be it from current players or next draft. And 2 DBs I feel are needed. Reid is good but I would take another S that is as good as Reid seems to be. And another CB that can shut down the full one side would be awesome. Not sure if anyone like that is going to be coming out this year.
CB's Booth/Kendrick/Stingley

DE's Thibodeaux/Leal and there are more pass rushers available OSU's Harrison/Smith/The dude from Purdue/ Jackson from USC.
 


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