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Moulds Trade Official

TexanBacker93 said:
Well, with a Kubiak offense it would cause confusion. Imagine if the team still employed Capers.....

The Texans are lined up with Johnson and Mathis wide to the left. Moulds is wide right. Bush and Davis are in the backfield. Bush goes in motion to the right. Carr takes the snap. It's Davis over the tackle for 2 yards.
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That's like a re-ocurring dream (nightmare) I have had since since moving back to Texas and watching all the games last season... :eek:
 
Capers:

1st & 10: Davis for 2 yards up the middle
2nd & 8: Davis for a loss of 1
3rd & 9: Just send out the punting unit.....
 
It's making me nervous that it's taking so long. Especially now that the contract amount has been leaked. Now other teams can see what Moulds wants someone could swoop down and make a better offer.

And BTW I think 4 years $14 million for Moulds is a STEAL!!! Way cheaper than Randel El, Antonio Bryant, and David Givens and he's ALOT better than all of them!

Hurry up Charley... don't screw this up....
 
It's also been leaked that the Eagles haven't even talked to the Bills, so that could play for us to (us giving them a 5th instead of a 4th)
 
oso said:
Just have to lock down the trade. I'm assuming we are giving up one of our second or third round picks. Any thoughts?
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At the most we are giving up our 1st pick on the second day (the 4th round pick)
 
Here is the quote from the article I like,
"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," Moulds' agent, Greg Johnson, told the Chronicle.

Could just be PR talk, but I still like it.

ESPN Insider:

Texans closing in on Moulds
<Mar. 31> The Houston Chronicle is reporting that the Texans are on the verge of landing Moulds in a trade with Buffalo. The Texans and Moulds have already agreed to a contract, which will pay the receiver $14 million over four years. The deal also includes a $5 million signing bonus.
What remains to be decided is the compensation Buffalo receive. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. So far, the Texans have offered only a fifth-round pick.

"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," Moulds' agent, Greg Johnson, told the Chronicle. "We'd be overstepping our bounds if we said it's just about dotting the i's and crossing the t's. It's not that close to being done, but we are very excited."

Texans GM Charlie Casserly said trade talks with Buffalo won't resume until Monday, when Moulds is scheduled to arrive in Houston to meet with team officials.

The Eagles were also considered a frontrunner for Moulds as late as Thursday afternoon, but the Philadelphia Inquirer is reporting that the Eagles and Bills have not had any trade discussions.
 
Htown34s said:
I don't have anything new to say, just want this post to get even longer. ;)
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Yeah...I home sick from work today and bored...

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TexansCM said:
Here is the quote from the article I like,
"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," Moulds' agent, Greg Johnson, told the Chronicle.

Could just be PR talk, but I still like it.

ESPN Insider:

Texans closing in on Moulds
<Mar. 31> The Houston Chronicle is reporting that the Texans are on the verge of landing Moulds in a trade with Buffalo. The Texans and Moulds have already agreed to a contract, which will pay the receiver $14 million over four years. The deal also includes a $5 million signing bonus.
What remains to be decided is the compensation Buffalo receive. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. So far, the Texans have offered only a fifth-round pick.

"We are excited for this opportunity, and Eric is ecstatic about playing opposite of Andre Johnson," Moulds' agent, Greg Johnson, told the Chronicle. "We'd be overstepping our bounds if we said it's just about dotting the i's and crossing the t's. It's not that close to being done, but we are very excited."

Texans GM Charlie Casserly said trade talks with Buffalo won't resume until Monday, when Moulds is scheduled to arrive in Houston to meet with team officials.

The Eagles were also considered a frontrunner for Moulds as late as Thursday afternoon, but the Philadelphia Inquirer is reporting that the Eagles and Bills have not had any trade discussions.
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What would you expect him to day... He wants out of Buffalo, the texans have show strong interest, Eagles may have showed some interest.

Would you expect him to say, AJ is alright, but I want a Superbowl and I am not sure they can do that as I would really rather play for the eagles.

I think he is just happy to have the chance to get out of there before the release.
 
So I guess the delay is the haggling between us and the Bills between giving up our 4th rounder or the 5th.

I'd say its a good deal even giving up the 4th. We aren't breaking the bank with the contract and if we don't get Moulds then we'd potentially have to use a higher pick (2nd-3rd rounder) on a WR to fill the #2 slot.

I'd be fine with Casserly giving in and giving the 4th. I'd also offer them this year's and next year's 5th instead of this year's 4th to see if they'd bite. We've had decent luck with our 4th rounders in the past.
 
Well, just don't let him see someone with a Thurmon Thomas Jersey!

I saw on ESPN "LOCAL", that "Casserly likely will leave Houston".... but the link has an error.


Any word on this??
 
Htown34s said:
So I guess the delay is the haggling between us and the Bills between giving up our 4th rounder or the 5th.

I'd say its a good deal even giving up the 4th. We aren't breaking the bank with the contract and if we don't get Moulds then we'd potentially have to use a higher pick (2nd-3rd rounder) on a WR to fill the #2 slot.

I'd be fine with Casserly giving in and giving the 4th. I'd also offer them this year's and next year's 5th instead of this year's 4th to see if they'd bite. We've had decent luck with our 4th rounders in the past.
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I wouldn't mind giving up a 4th rounder for Moulds. At least with him, the Texans no what they are getting. And where is the entire draft is a krap shoot, I would rather the Texans take a WR with a proven track record in the NFL than a rookie to fill the #2 spot. That's just me though.
 
id givev4hem a 5th Round pick and swap picks in the fourth.we would drop 7 spots in the 4th Round, and give up orr 5th. Seems like a decent compromise,
 
Blame Reggie Bush for the wait

Bills | Moulds deal may not be finalized until Monday
Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:21:39 -0800

Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports a completion of a trade between the Buffalo Bills and Houston Texans for WR Eric Moulds is not expected until Monday, April 3, at the latest. The Texans' top football executives are heading to Los Angeles for Southern California's Pro Day workout, as USC RB Reggie Bush is the favorite to be Houston's No. 1 overall pick in the NFL Draft.
 
MikeMc said:
I saw on ESPN "LOCAL", that "Casserly likely will leave Houston".... but the link has an error.


Any word on this??
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He's reportedly in the mix for some NFL VP position. There is a thread on here entitled something like 'Casserly to the NFL'
 
Sportsfan said:
He's reportedly in the mix for some NFL VP position. There is a thread on here entitled something like 'Casserly to the NFL'
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Read between the lines and it seems Texans general manager Charley Casserly will be out of Houston after the next month's draft.
"I have a contract and I'm doing my job as we proceed in free agency and prepare for the draft," Casserly said.
Casserly's job seemed to be in jeopardy in December when Texans owner Bob McNair hired former NFL coach Dan Reeves as a consultant to help repair a team that collapsed from 7-9 in 2004 to 2-14 last season.
Casserly survived Reeves' review, unlike coach Dom Capers. However, McNair and Casserly couldn't agree on an extension of his contract, which expires in June 2007.
If Casserly leaves the Texans, he likely would replace new Oakland Raiders coach Art Shell as the NFL's senior vice president of football operations and development.
Casserly says he has not talked to anyone on Park Avenue about the position, but that was the scuttlebutt at this week's league meetings. The job could be a way station for the 57-year-old Casserly until another GM position opens.
"I haven't heard anything from anyone in the league office, but that doesn't mean there's not something to it," McNair told the Houston Chronicle. "We're scheduled to sit down after the draft and evaluate everything. When we do that, we'll see where everything's headed."
McNair made Casserly, the longtime GM of the Redskins, his first football-related hire after being awarded the expansion franchise in October 1999. The Texans are 18-46 in their four seasons.
Brotherly love
Colts coach Tony Dungy said All-Pro quarterback Peyton Manning is pumped up for the season-opener against the New York Giants, who are quarterbacked by his younger brother, Eli.
"What Peyton said publicly is ..., 'I've never played against him before and it's going to be very exciting,' " Dungy said. "What he was thinking was, 'I'm not going to lose to my brother on national television. Whatever my regimen was, it just cranked up 5 percent because I'm not going to lose.'
 
Pretty much the same stuff...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2391714

Sources: Texans, Moulds close to deal
By Len Pasquarelli

The Houston Texans appear only days away from addressing a longtime priority, acquiring a veteran wide receiver to complement the skills of emerging star Andre Johnson, and of adding another proven target for beleaguered quarterback David Carr.


Sources confirmed that the Texans have reached an agreement in principle with Buffalo Bills wide receiver Eric Moulds on a four-year contract believed to be worth $14 million. The agreement, first reported by The Houston Chronicle, is said to include a $5 million signing bonus. The deal is believed to be similar to the four-year, $14 million contract that free agent Keyshawn Johnson signed with Carolina last week.


Before the Texans acquire Moulds, however, they must first strike a deal with Bills officials. Buffalo is said to be seeking a fourth-round choice in exchange for Moulds, who twice rejected overtures to readjust his contact so he could stay with the Bills. Houston is believed to have offered a fifth-round choice in the 2006 draft as compensation for the 10-year veteran.


Moulds, 32, is scheduled to arrive in Houston on Monday to visit with Texans coaches and officials. No deal will be consummated before that visit. Earlier in the free agency period, the Texans ardently courted David Givens of New England, but the Houston native signed with the Tennessee Titans.



There were some other suitors for Moulds, who last week was granted permission by the Bills to seek out trade possibilities, but none were as aggressive as the Texans. And many of the franchises cited as having interest in Moulds, notably the Philadelphia Eagles, never got involved in substantive discussions. Talks with the Eagles were initiated by Moulds' agent, and were relatively one-sided.


Under first-year head coach Gary Kubiak, whose offensive expertise is well documented, the Texans hope to upgrade a passing attack that statistically ranked 30th in the league in 2005. The Texans' passing game has never rated higher than No. 18 and was in the bottom four in the league in three of four seasons.



The addition of Moulds would provide Carr the most accomplished No. 2 receiver he has ever had, and would alleviate some of the pressure on Johnson, the team's best playmaker. Houston is expected to make Southern California tailback and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush the top overall selection in next month's draft, and his presence as a threat out of the backfield should also aid the passing game.



A first-round choice in the 1996 draft, Moulds has 675 receptions for 9,096 yards and 48 touchdowns in 154 regular-season appearances. In his eight seasons as a starter with the Bills, the former Mississippi State star averaged 78.3 receptions, 1,065.4 yards and 5.8 touchdown catches.
 
The addition of Moulds would provide Carr the most accomplished No. 2 receiver he has ever had, and would alleviate some of the pressure on Johnson, the team's best playmaker. Houston is expected to make Southern California tailback and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush the top overall selection in next month's draft, and his presence as a threat out of the backfield should also aid the passing game.
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I'm as giddy as a schoolboy:redtowel:
 
... and y'all miss this in the Chronic's story?

...."His mom has only attended about five games in Buffalo," Johnson said. "She says she can't wait to get in her RV and head down I-10 for the six-hour drive. She wants to tailgate with the fans. She says it will remind her of his college days (at Mississippi State).....
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Pfft - who needs a mom that hands out chunky soup, we have one that's gonna tailgate with us!! :redtowel:
 
your right if we get moulds we will have a solid 2. Mouls will be our #1 reciever and Johnson will be the best 2 in the league.
 
A4toZ said:
... and y'all miss this in the Chronic's story?



Pfft - who needs a mom that hands out chunky soup, we have one that's gonna tailgate with us!! :redtowel:
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As long as it's longnecks and 'cue she's doling out, I'll hang with her. :)
 
I seriously doubt that will happen. Only if A.J. gets injured and Moulds steps it up to where they have to make him the starter. Otherwise A.J. will start on the fact that Moulds is so much older and A.J. is to good to put at #2 under normal circumstances. :twocents:
 
If a deal won't be done till Monday at the earliest, how big can this thread grow..... and how disappointed would you be if it doesn't happen???

Me, at first I was against the signing but some of the Bills fans who have come onto the board have convinced me I want him, and want him bad!!:drool:
 
I think Dre would be the #2 in our rotation. He is still young and has alot to learn. It would also allow Moulds ego to get its tickle, while Dre dosnt care cause he is a team player. Moulds has the experience to teach and from what Ive seen, he still has what it takes to get it done.
 
F-minus67 said:
So just how close are we to getting Moulds, and are there any changes he will do what Pace did?
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I don't think we have another Pace situation here with the Texans. If anything I think the situation was reversed this time and Moulds was using Philly to jack up his price with us. We just failed to realise this because we have been burned by this process to many times in the past and instictively shifted into a pessimistic state when it came to getting Moulds. Because as I mentioned on the Philly board what proof is there that the Eagles ever really persued Moulds. I know the agent called the Eagles FO and tried to start things up and then released that press release saying Moulds wanted to play for the Eagles (which I chalk up to being standard agent speak). But what else is there besides alot of reports contradicting each other from all the major Philly and major national sports outlets. Other than that all the activity that has been reported dealt strictly with the Texans.
 
AJ and Moulds will be heavily covered and then you throw Mathis in slot and he will outrun everyone and be wide open. With AJ and Moulds, whoever lines up in the slot will be very effective also. I think with AJ and Moulds, Putzier will be in the top 5 in TE catches. He will have barely any attention focused on him. I do have confidence in David Carr, but I think he's the only way this offense could not be as capable as it could be. He's showed sparks of a strong, good QB though throughout his career and with names like Reggie Bush, Dominick Davis, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Jeb Putzier as targets, I think he will shine next year. I would be suprised if we are not a top 10 ranked offense next year.
 
BigBull17 said:
I think Dre would be the #2 in our rotation. He is still young and has alot to learn. It would also allow Moulds ego to get its tickle, while Dre dosnt care cause he is a team player. Moulds has the experience to teach and from what Ive seen, he still has what it takes to get it done.
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AJ had more yardage than Moulds even in his 1st two years in the league--2003 and 2004 and even though injured last year and getting only 75% as many receptions had more 1st downs. AJ isn't going to be taking 2nd fiddle to Moulds. This is a move to put a threat in to draw attention from AJ and have more playmakers, not to find a better #1--not that it really matters as both with be on the field 99% of the time.
 
AJ is better then moulds in my opinion though and AJ is like the franchise #1 WR. Notice how all of the articles from news reports and stuff say adding WR Moulds to go on the side of All Star Andre Johnson. Maybe not exactly worded right but close.
 
BigBull17 said:
I think Dre would be the #2 in our rotation. He is still young and has alot to learn. It would also allow Moulds ego to get its tickle, while Dre dosnt care cause he is a team player. Moulds has the experience to teach and from what Ive seen, he still has what it takes to get it done.
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This will not happen unless AJ is not full speed ready for the season. AJ may be a team player, but he is also the #1 WR for the Texans and you do not mess with a young player's "ego" and tell him hey, you are going to be the #2 guy now that we have this old guy here with more experience. You can do this if you really want to drive AJ to another team that wants him to be the #1. Have you forgotten why Moulds is in this whole trade thing to begin with? Was #1 and now sliding down to #2 for Buffalo.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
This will not happen unless AJ is not full speed ready for the season. AJ may be a team player, but he is also the #1 WR for the Texans and you do not mess with a young player's "ego" and tell him hey, you are going to be the #2 guy now that we have this old guy here with more experience. You can do this if you really want to drive AJ to another team that wants him to be the #1. Have you forgotten why Moulds is in this whole trade thing to begin with? Was #1 and now sliding down to #2 for Buffalo.
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I might have agreed with this if AJ was the type of player that displayed alot of ego but the fact is he dosen't really. Every time I have heard someone from the Chronicle, local TV news, and radio describe him the say he is laid back, shy, avoids attention and confrotation, and always does what is best for the team without arguement. Doesn't really scream ego does it. I think at this point anything is possible and as the season unfolds we will know what the players roles on this team will be.
 
I'd like to thank the guy at the "carnival" with the Eddie George jersey. :ok:

I'm not sure Givens and Moulds are even in the same ballpark.
 
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