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He’ll be DE in our 4-3 Tampa 2 i think.I was expecting McKinney to be cut. Don't understand this deal for Texans. Can Lawson cover?
Trade/cut doesn’t make much difference cap wise. We must be getting a pick or other players as well.I was expecting McKinney to be cut. Don't understand this deal for Texans. Can Lawson cover?
Think only the 2021 salary is guaranteed.Lawson due $7.9m in 21 and $8.9m in 22, guaranteed base salary.
Good catch I’ve fixed it now.Think only the 2021 salary is guaranteed.
I see them signing vets on 1 year deals to fill out positions.Seems like were signing folks were kicking out next year. Were are all the talent were gonna groom for next year if we ain't got picks?
Means Watson is gone right? I surely hope so.
Not unless a team that trades for Watson is forced to take him.Can we trade Mercilus for anyone?
If McKinney was likely to be cut (meaning we recoup nothing for him), but instead we trade him for a player who has utility for the Texans in new DC Lovie Smiths defense, does that not sound like a good deal for the Texans ?I was expecting McKinney to be cut. Don't understand this deal for Texans. Can Lawson cover?
Depends. The Texans would have saved $6.5 million if they had cut McKinney. In taking the Lawson contract, the Texans are spending $8 million. Could Caserio have found more value than a part-time DE for $8 million?If McKinney was likely to be cut (meaning we recoup nothing for him), but instead we trade him for a player who has utility for the Texans in new DC Lovie Smiths defense, does that not sound like a good deal for the Texans ?
I see you used the word “dropping” in the same sentence as Jacoby Jones! Well played my friend!! LolCan we trade Mercilus for anyone? I’ll even take Osweiler or Jacoby Jones at this point if it means dropping the dead weight that is Whitney.
So you saying Lawson is not a 3 down defensive player, just a one trick pony edge rusher?Depends. The Texans would have saved $6.5 million if they had cut McKinney. In taking the Lawson contract, the Texans are spending $8 million. Could Caserio have found more value than a part-time DE for $8 million?
Cutting or moving McKinney was a no-brainer. He had become less productive and was no longer a fit for the defense. Spending $8 million on Lawson? That's a head scratcher.
The Texans, who parted ways with franchise icon J.J. Watt this offseason, were in desperate need of pass rush help, and Lawson graded out as Pro Football Focus’ 28th-best edge defender out of 109 qualified players (incidentally, new teammate Whitney Mercilus was at the very bottom of that list). Lawson’s four sacks and 25 QB pressures won’t make headlines, but he will be a welcome addition to the club’s pass rushing corps just the same. He will likely shift back to defensive end in new DC Lovie Smith‘s scheme.
We're where?Seems like were signing folks were kicking out next year. Were are all the talent were gonna groom for next year if we ain't got picks?
Means Watson is gone right? I surely hope so.
Day at a time. Most wanted BM gone now he is. When mine are gone I feel better but immediately start looking for the next move! Is this trade with dolphins a precursor to another? I do think McKinney is two years older.Can we trade Mercilus for anyone? I’ll even take Osweiler or Jacoby Jones at this point if it means dropping the dead weight that is Whitney.
IIRC lawson it's been very good against the Run. Not as good getting to the quarterbackNot unless a team that trades for Watson is forced to take him.
So, the Texans have the following players to man the RDE spot:
Whitney Mercilus
Jacob Martin
Shaq Lawson
Jonathan Greenard
Can any of these guys get to the QB? Can any of these guys stop the run?
Slow down. If anything Miami suggested a low ball & Caserio countered with pie in the sky... if the subject was breached at all. The only thing anyone would know is Miami is interested & Watson is on the table.So....Caserio should have a baseline offer that he can take to other teams to see if anyone can top it.
Slow down. If anything Miami suggested a low ball & Caserio countered with pie in the sky... if the subject was breached at all. The only thing anyone would know is Miami is interested & Watson is on the table.
Don't put me in that group. (Not that there's anything wrong with that group). I don't think Watson wants to go to Miami.I too see this as the beginning of something else to come with Miami.
I'm not on Twitter. What's this about?
Neither am I, it was the same as the pic texansballer has screenshotted above, but it seems Lawson has since deleted his tweet.I'm not on Twitter. What's this about?
Neither am I, it was the same as the pic texansballer has screenshotted above, but it seems Lawson has since deleted his tweet.
I felt like it was a good sign that he’d tweeted it and am a little worried now that it’s a bad sign he’s felt the need to take it down.
Yes Lawson over BM but not over a cap savings if McKinney just cut. This is a Bill O'Brien type trade unless it is foreplay for a later deal. Even then, I just don't get it. Anyone think that a Howard trade for someone on our roster could be next? That would benefit both teams while not making Howard part of a DW trade in that Dolphins could give up more picks.
A trade that does not make sense? Seems like it is to me!Lol this was not, is not a Bill O’Brien type trade.
Pressure and QB hits are good but he's very poor at Sacks. So I'm considering that he might be late to the Target. Again better than McKinney but not better than the cap savingsWhat do you mean it doesn’t make sense. We struggled with get pressure on the opposing quarterbacks. The only player that brought pressure was JJ who is gone now. Lawson brings that type of pressure. And they probably got him because he might fit in good with the type of defense Lovie will employ. Makes plenty of sense
Speed needs to get you somewhere not just fast. As a boat racer I love going fast but if you don't beat the other guy it's kind of hollow.We need speed on the front 7 and this does that to me.
Shaq gets 25 pressures in 14 games, including some games when he wasn't fully healthy.Speed needs to get you somewhere not just fast. As a boat racer I love going fast but if you don't beat the other guy it's kind of hollow.
A trade that does not make sense? Seems like it is to me!
Pressure and QB hits are good but he's very poor at Sacks. So I'm considering that he might be late to the Target. Again better than McKinney but not better than the cap savings
I stand by my last two postsShaq gets 25 pressures in 14 games, including some games when he wasn't fully healthy.
JJ Watt gets 29 in 16.
I think that's pretty good.
That's your POV.Lol, what in the ever living hell are you talking about? This literally makes all the sense in the world for what the team needs.
Agree that greenard needs to step up and in my opinion with Watt gone Omenihu will be that guy.Well hopefully NC can find us a sack monster or players like Martin, Greenard and Omenihu stepping their games up.
Omenihu registered 21 pressures playing part time; he can get better.Well hopefully NC can find us a sack monster or players like Martin, Greenard and Omenihu stepping their games up.