Leigh Bodden to visit Houston-Re-Signs with Pats for 28.5 million /5 years 10 guar.

[Kaiser Toro]

This thread reminds me of the fight scene at the end of Blazing Saddles.

We shall deem all threads that gain momentum and spill into another forum as a Blazing Saddle.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

That little section is what stands out to me.

We didn't bring back Dunta. So who plays his spot? It looked as if Bodden was going to be that guy.

Bodden would have been cheaper than what the Falcons just paid Dunta. But I guess McNair or Smithiak, or both, decided that even HALF of Dunta's new contract was not a fair price for the guy who is replacing him.

We paid Dunta 10 mill for his final year here. Bodden is getting around 6 mill a year. We felt like paying Dunta 10 mill for his last year here, but didn't bring him back.

I keep trying to wrap my head around the mathematical reasoning skills of the Texans as it relates to the two CBs who were potentially slotted to make our team as the starter at one of the CB positions.

Maybe if we had paid him $7 mill-per-season he dumps the Pats for us?

All I can do is sit here and wonder how this team is going to be playoff-contending in 2010. This seemed like a good way to spend less than we spent on Dunta, and lock down that position.

I've gone from being pissed off at this team to just seriously laughing at the methodology that's being displayed.

(sigh) Like sands through the hourglass....so are the days...of our lives...

What this says to me is that we didn't want to pay Dunta that money for what he would bring to the table for us. And as to Bodden, it tells me that maybe they weren't 100% sure he was going to be a #1 CB for us. Maybe they thought he didn't offer us any more than Reeves and Quin do... so why pay that much more for him? Not saying this is what happened but just a thought at least.

I'm in the camp that wanted Bodden here to fill that hole. I have absolutely no insight into whether he would even be that good for us or how good... or where he would go on the depth chart. I would assume he would be a starter and that's why I was hoping for him.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Herv,

I think Pollard had a probowl season. I think Kevin Walter is a very good #2 WR. I also think that Antonio Smith was very, very good last year. We don't go after the big name guys that demand premium dollars. I don't think we go after those guys for good reasons. You are right that we don't have the Patriot advantage of getting discounts on veterans trying to grab a Championship or repair their image. But, that just puts us even with about 29 other franchises.

We could outbid for some of these guys... like we did for Antonio Smith. I just think we haven't been in a position to until last year. This year I think they simply don't like the pool of FAs. I'm sure you'll see a major FA splash in 2011 or 2012. Personally, I'd rather see them continue to draft well and get these guys from the 2006 draft extended!

Smith was very very good last year? Really? 34 tackles and 4.5 sacks is very very good?

if that is good, i just don't know what to tell you. but very very good? really?

Smith is a JAG. Just Another Guy. He happened to play well at the right time and got rewarded by a team desperate for DE help. He did enough to not make him a total bust, but he played far from good.

Speaking of busts, one word. Okoye.

 

[stingray]

Smith was very very good last year? Really? 34 tackles and 4.5 sacks is very very good?

if that is good, i just don't know what to tell you. but very very good? really?

Smith is a JAG. Just Another Guy. He happened to play well at the right time and got rewarded by a team desperate for DE help. He did enough to not make him a total bust, but he played far from good.

Speaking of busts, one word. Okoye.

You obviously did not pay attention to the Dline play when you watched the games. I have re-watched a total of eight games from the previous season so far in the offseason and Antonio Smith was not just another guy. No, he wasn't Reggie White, but the dude did put alot pressure on QB's throughout the season. There were countless hurries by Qb's because Antonio was coming. He only got 4.5 sacks but that didn't tell the whole story. Mario, Antonio, and Cushing were the only consistent players that made the QB squirm a little. I guess in your book, if the DE doesn't have double digit sacks at the end of the year, he is JAG.

 

[dalemurphy]

Smith was very very good last year? Really? 34 tackles and 4.5 sacks is very very good?

if that is good, i just don't know what to tell you. but very very good? really?

Smith is a JAG. Just Another Guy. He happened to play well at the right time and got rewarded by a team desperate for DE help. He did enough to not make him a total bust, but he played far from good.

Speaking of busts, one word. Okoye.

1. I agree on Okoye. Frankly, I would've liked to see him benched for Deljuan... maybe even cut last year.

2. A. Smith was our best DLman from October on last year. He beat the heck out of the QB. I thought he played very well. Stats on the DL don't always translate. Look at some of the seasons D.Freeney has had. He's certainly had the big sack seasons, but he's had a couple 5 sack seasons as well... even when healthy, and, he doesn't make many tackles in the run game.

For instance: D. Freeney- 2006 16games , 5.5 sacks, 29 total tackles... followed by an injury-riddled 2007 season: 9games, 3.5 sacks.

 

[TexCanada]

1. I agree on Okoye. Frankly, I would've liked to see him benched for Deljuan... maybe even cut last year.

2. A. Smith was our best DLman from October on last year. He beat the heck out of the QB. I thought he played very well. Stats on the DL don't always translate. Look at some of the seasons D.Freeney has had. He's certainly had the big sack seasons, but he's had a couple 5 sack seasons as well... even when healthy, and, he doesn't make many tackles in the run game.

For instance: D. Freeney- 2006 16games , 5.5 sacks, 29 total tackles... followed by an injury-riddled 2007 season: 9games, 3.5 sacks.

I think it would be a terrible move to give up on Okoye. He is still very young in a position that generally takes a long time to develop into a real force. Obviously his learning curve is slower than we would have liked, and maybe he won't become the player that we hope, but I still think it would a bad move not to try and let him develop.

 

[Texecutioner]

I think it would be a terrible move to give up on Okoye. He is still very young in a position that generally takes a long time to develop into a real force. Obviously his learning curve is slower than we would have liked, and maybe he won't become the player that we hope, but I still think it would a bad move not to try and let him develop.

It doesn't take that many years to develop at DT. I mean, sure there has been a guy like Haynesworth that popped up as a beast years into his career and all, but it's not like year 4 is the golden year for when DT's show what they have. Okoye is what he is. He's a failed draft pick and hopefully we can find someone else that can start over him next season.

 

[BigBull17]

1. I agree on Okoye. Frankly, I would've liked to see him benched for Deljuan... maybe even cut last year.

2. A. Smith was our best DLman from October on last year. He beat the heck out of the QB. I thought he played very well. Stats on the DL don't always translate. Look at some of the seasons D.Freeney has had. He's certainly had the big sack seasons, but he's had a couple 5 sack seasons as well... even when healthy, and, he doesn't make many tackles in the run game.

For instance: D. Freeney- 2006 16games , 5.5 sacks, 29 total tackles... followed by an injury-riddled 2007 season: 9games, 3.5 sacks.

Agree on both parts. Okoye is a zero. Smith played great I thought. He is disruptive and tough. Needs to be 1/2 step quicker though. We were very close to way too many sacks last year.