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Nitrofish said:
The funny thing is, even those who are commenting on all of the other players they wanted instead of Clowney. Had we taken any of those players and they played like they have on the teams they are on, and Clowney went to another team and lit it up you all would be crying and asking why we didn't take Clowney. That is was a no brainer and our FO are imbeciles. You know it's true.
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I don't know about that. Greg Robinson is the starting LT for the Rams. They've beaten the Broncos, 49ers, & Seahawks since he's started with a QB carousel & Tre Mason is "blowing up"

Maybe we'd have started him at LG & even though I'm a fan of Ben Jones, I don't think he's dominating that position like I believe Greg Robinson could. Or maybe he plays RT & the games Derek Newton took off..... maybe Robinson comes nto his own.

Or Sammy Watkins... Fitz would have looked like a god from day 1.

Still, I don't associate Clowney's injury with his past medical history. It was a freak accident that can't be explained. His recovery was doomed from the get go, not because he doesn't have Jj's motor, but because he's got the Texans' medical staff overseeing the process.

Far as I can tell, he's still the most talented mofo in that draft, he's got the want to to play this game, & he seems highly coachable. Nowhere near the diva he was painted to be. If the Texans clean house in their medical department, Jd Clowney could have a very productive career as a Houston Texans as long as RAC & Vrabel stick around.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't know about that. Greg Robinson is the starting LT for the Rams. They've beaten the Broncos, 49ers, & Seahawks since he's started with a QB carousel & Tre Mason is "blowing up"

Maybe we'd have started him at LG & even though I'm a fan of Ben Jones, I don't think he's dominating that position like I believe Greg Robinson could. Or maybe he plays RT & the games Derek Newton took off..... maybe Robinson comes nto his own.

Or Sammy Watkins... Fitz would have looked like a god from day 1.

Still, I don't associate Clowney's injury with his past medical history. It was a freak accident that can't be explained. His recovery was doomed from the get go, not because he doesn't have Jj's motor, but because he's got the Texans' medical staff overseeing the process.

Far as I can tell, he's still the most talented mofo in that draft, he's got the want to to play this game, & he seems highly coachable. Nowhere near the diva he was painted to be. If the Texans clean house in their medical department, Jd Clowney could have a very productive career as a Houston Texans as long as RAC & Vrabel stick around.
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Well ****. Saved me a lot of typing and I didn't want Clowney either.
 
Texecutioner said:
Everyone that blasted and waived off all of the warning signs that SC's coaching staff leaked last off season and bought into the hype of Clowney sure are looking like damn fools now. Shoot, that thread about Clowney went on and on with spin after spin for why he couldn't produce 4 sacks and why he dogged it in his last Junior year, and all of the excuses for his lack of a non stop motor.

Texian and talked about these warning signs and his danger from injuries with the bone spurs again and again and people just listened to the hype that was Mel Kiper and all of these other ridiculous scouts. Dude hardly had pressure at all that last season of college and yet people ignored it. The Texans got literally nothing out of this dude this year. Smith and Mcnair clearly learned nothing after they spent years with Mario when he had warning signs all.over the place before we drafted his ass too.

The Texans aren't cursed. They are just one of the dumbest NFL franchises in NFL history. They deserve all of the backlash they get honestly. Keeping Kubiak for 3 to 4 years to long, keeping Carr an extra year, drafting Mario, then drafting Clowney after the same warning signs were there but even stronger this time around. The only competent thing they have done was get O'Brien, and hell the jury is still out on him as well. Drafting Watt was Wade's doing along with all of the other defensive moves we made that off season.
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Great post. I am giving it a slow clap. Texian and Texecutioner are the 2 best posters on this board.
 
Texecutioner said:
Everyone that blasted and waived off all of the warning signs that SC's coaching staff leaked last off season and bought into the hype of Clowney sure are looking like damn fools now. Shoot, that thread about Clowney went on and on with spin after spin for why he couldn't produce 4 sacks and why he dogged it in his last Junior year, and all of the excuses for his lack of a non stop motor.

Texian and talked about these warning signs and his danger from injuries with the bone spurs again and again and people just listened to the hype that was Mel Kiper and all of these other ridiculous scouts. Dude hardly had pressure at all that last season of college and yet people ignored it. The Texans got literally nothing out of this dude this year. Smith and Mcnair clearly learned nothing after they spent years with Mario when he had warning signs all.over the place before we drafted his ass too.

The Texans aren't cursed. They are just one of the dumbest NFL franchises in NFL history. They deserve all of the backlash they get honestly. Keeping Kubiak for 3 to 4 years to long, keeping Carr an extra year, drafting Mario, then drafting Clowney after the same warning signs were there but even stronger this time around. The only competent thing they have done was get O'Brien, and hell the jury is still out on him as well. Drafting Watt was Wade's doing along with all of the other defensive moves we made that off season.
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Bravo! I may have been wrong in my comparison of Clowney to Aundray Bruce. Bruce had a better first year. Based on O'Brien's first draft I'm not sure he's the answer. I think you nailed it with your assessment and characterization of the Texans ownership. Reminds me a lot of John Mecom and Rankin Smith and a little bit of Jerry Jones w/ less fanfare and without Jimmy Johnson.
 
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Dan B. said:
Is now the right time to point put that Mario Williams was the AFC defensive player of the month, is fifth in the NFL in sacks, and anchors a top 5 defense? What a bust....

#1 pick Blake Griffin missed his entire first NBA season due to injury, after also being injured his last year at OU (Dude missed more games than Clowney, who sat out ONE game in his collegiate career). What a bust....

I'm pretty sure Spurrier would kill to have Clowney back right now. They won 11 games every year Clowney played there. They won 6 this year. They had the 11th ranked defense in 2012, and finished 11th again last year. They rank 91st this year.
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What season is Mario in? Not saying he was a bust jst way over paid by us and Bills
 
Sean Pendergast eviscerates the incompetent Texans organization in this article. I am sick and tired of Bill O' Brien not giving us any information. That crap doesn't fly since he hasn't won jack **** and his offense has been boring and predictable.

"And quite frankly, when O'Brien prefaces his Clowney comments with a stonewall on any specifics about Clowney's injury and his upcoming surgery, Texans fans should be livid. They deserve to know exactly what is being done to remedy the issues with the number one overall draft pick's right knee, and they deserve to know exactly how we got here."

AMEN.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/news/..._for_the_year_texans_fans_deserve_answers.php
 
TexansFight said:
"And quite frankly, when O'Brien prefaces his Clowney comments with a stonewall on any specifics about Clowney's injury and his upcoming surgery, Texans fans should be livid. They deserve to know exactly what is being done to remedy the issues with the number one overall draft pick's right knee, and they deserve to know exactly how we got here."
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And quite frankly, I do agree with that. He shouldn't be hiding behind HIPAA rules only when it suits him.
 
I personally don't want a coach who gives out information about the injury status of players. The last thing I want from my football team is freaking transparency. Someone bitching and whining because they feel like they're entitled to know the details of a player's health? That's just about the stupidest damned thing I've ever heard and I've heard some stupid damned things in my life. For me, that's right up with the guy who was all pissed off that we drafted a pizza delivery guy and in the future, I'll give Pendergast's opinions the same amount of weight I give that other guy's opinions.

Hell. Is it the same guy?
 
The NFL mandates injury reports and players and coaches meeting with and being accessible to the media. It is part of Bill O'Brien's job to tell the media the injury status of players. I hope he gets fined and that the Houston media grows a pair and keeps grilling BOB.
 
TexansFight said:
Sean Pendergast eviscerates the incompetent Texans organization in this article. I am sick and tired of Bill O' Brien not giving us any information. That crap doesn't fly since he hasn't won jack **** and his offense has been boring and predictable.
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Maybe O'Brien can give us info as long as we promise to not tell it to any other teams.

infantrycak said:
We don't "deserve" anything other than games on Sunday.
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Exactly.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I personally don't want a coach who gives out information about the injury status of players. The last thing I want from my football team is freaking transparency. Someone bitching and whining because they feel like they're entitled to know the details of a player's health? That's just about the stupidest damned thing I've ever heard and I've heard some stupid damned things in my life. For me, that's right up with the guy who was all pissed off that we drafted a pizza delivery guy and in the future, I'll give Pendergast's opinions the same amount of weight I give that other guy's opinions.

Hell. Is it the same guy?
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As if we're doctors right?? I mean it's not like we're going to set his frig'n leg. All we need to now is that Jd is done for the season, not a dang thing we can do about that.

I wonder if the Texans are going to do a poll, so we can tell them how to proceed with Jd's recovery.
 
I just don't get the inconsistency of it, that's all.

Who exactly was it that disclosed all this meniscus stuff on his first surgery?
 
I brought this out during the early preseason and TexansChick pointed out that this did not apply to the preseason..............but only to the regular season.


2014 NFL Media Relations Policy

Reasonable cooperation with the news media is essential to the continuing popularity of our game and its players and coaches. The following league policy is reviewed and updated annually and remains standard operating procedure:


8. MEDICAL INFORMATION Clubs must ensure that all medical information issued to the media is credible, responsible, and specific in terms that are meaningful to teams, media, and fans. This includes the information in the weekly injury reports and information on injuries announced to the media during games.

As endorsed by the NFL Competition Committee in March of 2013, in-game injury announcements to the media must be specific to a body part, accurate, and updated as warranted, including any changes in the player’s status for the rest of the game if it changes from the initial report. In situations where players have been involved in major collisions in which a concussion is possible, there will be an announcement in the press box that the player is being evaluated for an injury and an update will be provided as soon as possible.

A player diagnosed with a concussion in a game will not be made available to the media after the game. The concussion-related medical exemption from media obligations extends to the practice week until the player is cleared to resume activity, i.e. running, lifting, attending meetings, etc. The player does not have to be cleared to practice to be made available to media.

Though the injury reporting policy does not begin until the week prior to the start of the regular-season, clubs are expected to update media on significant injuries that occur during the offseason program, training camp and preseason games.

As a reminder, please note that because the injury reporting policy affects the integrity of the game, compliance is governed by the annual certifications required under the Integrity of the Game initiative. These certifications are required from owners, club presidents, general managers and head coaches. Club management, in consultation with its medical staff, is responsible for the accuracy and appropriateness of medical information distributed in response to public interest. Super Bowl teams are required to submit injury report information during the week between the Championship Games and Super Bowl.
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Sean Pendergast is a big gambler. I think that colors his opinion in wanting information.

I just wish they'd pick one side or the other. Either be transparent or shut up. What bothers me is the lies/misrepresentation.
 
TexansFight said:
Give us a doctor laser-pointing at an MRI of Clowney's knee explaining to us exactly what he's dealing with and how you plan to fix it...
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And we expect surgery video, too! :pissed:
The Pencil Neck said:
I personally don't want a coach who gives out information about the injury status of players...
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Jaguars were very accommodating in letting us know it's Bortle's right shoulder and left foot that's injured...

We'll be sure not to target those areas. :whistle:
 
Lucky said:
You're all over the place on this. I get that you want to say "I told ya so". Maybe his knee injury does directly stem from his previous issues. Maybe it's from landing in a hole in the turf. I don't know. But then you turn around and complain about Clowney's work ethic. What evidence do you have that's been an issue here? That's rhetorical, there is no evidence.
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His work ethic was poor as hell last season in college when he was supposed to be fighting for a Heisman trophy and started the year as a top candidate along with fighting for a #1 draft pick spot. His season was horrible for a guy that was supposed to be a potential #1 pick. His work ethic was questioned by his coaches and that is where I got it from. He had such a long flurry of injuries since he arrived here, that I couldn't use one from this season, but my concerns were that he would never be a consistent player here or anywhere for that matter due to his attitude and motor problems.

Lucky said:
And you want to add the Clowney selection to the Mario selection? Two different regimes? And in what universe was taking Mario a mistake? Was Mario a great #1 overall pick? No. But was he the right pick for the Texans? Absolutely. He has outperformed all of the other top picks from that draft who were considered at #1. Hands down. And Mario would be the 1st player taken again if all of those players were available
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Mario had very similar concerns as far as his motor went in college. He compiled the majority of his stats in just 3 games before we drafted him. I never liked the Mario pick, and no he wasn't never a great player for us. Our team consistently stuck with Mario being a guy that was supposed to be one of their franchise guys and leaders on defense. Mario was everything that was reported the entire time he was here which was a guy that didn't have a non stop motor despite having a lot of talent.


Lucky said:
So rant away. But the fact is, we know crap about what is going to happen with Clowney in the future. Year one was a bust. That alone doesn't make the pick a total bust.
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I think he'll be a bust based on a lot of things I have listed and warned before this pick. The Bone Spurs were a big concern that many of us discussed last off season as well. His flurry of injuries have created a concern even before going out for the year. Right now he is a bust until he shows otherwise. He could come back next year with 15 sacks, and I still wouldn't feel comfortable with him for the next 6 years, because his attitude isn't one of a non stop gladiator on every play. Here is just one post out of many in the large Clowney thread from the off season

Texecutioner said:
I shouldn't ding him in a season where he was in the Prime Time games several times and he had average games when he was fighting to be a #1 pick? Please. I will totally ding a guy who doesn't show up in big games. Randy Moss used to be the same way, and that's why I'll always ding him down the list of top NFL receivers ever. I'm sorry, but I kept looking to find this top NFL talent that was supposed to be the best pass rusher in college and every time I watched I never saw it. I saw the same type of Mario Williams player that everyone in Houston raved about when he played here that was never consistent. Watt had a down year statistically last season, but I still felt like he dominated. I still saw Watt all over the field causing havoc. I never saw that with Clowney.

Many of you need to look back on all of the DE busts from the last 10 years. There are a ton of them. These guys can be freakish athletes all they want, but if they don't have that endless motor and freakish desire to dominate all game long, I don't want any part of a player like that. He won't motivate his team and his attitude will rub off on other players. But NFL coaches will always draft freakish DE's very high in the draft. They always do, because they always want to find that next Demarcus Ware. I really wish that Clowney was the next Demarcus Ware, but I see nothing in his attitude on the field to make me believe it after what I saw last season in what was a contract year for him. If a player won't even go all out on his contract year, that is all I need to know about him. He might have a big season or two due to his abilities. I don't doubt that can happen. I don't think he'll be a guy that will dominate the league for 10 years though. And I would never draft a guy in the top 5 if I felt that way about him.
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http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2329152#post2329152
 
Nitrofish said:
The funny thing is, even those who are commenting on all of the other players they wanted instead of Clowney. Had we taken any of those players and they played like they have on the teams they are on, and Clowney went to another team and lit it up you all would be crying and asking why we didn't take Clowney. That is was a no brainer and our FO are imbeciles. You know it's true.
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Don't come in here saying what we would say. Sorry, but there is more than enough evidence all over this board that shows I wouldn't have stated that at all. Hell, I even predicted CLowney would have a good season or two or maybe even three if he had a long career, but stated his history showed that he'd be inconsistent and not anything close to what a you'd want out of a #1 pick. Don't try using some "well you would have said" argument to dispel the failure that this pick has been. We got nothing out of him this year.
 
IDEXAN said:
That just blew the azz-end out of any cred you might have had because Mario & Gholston are totally apples and oranges. Surely you must know that Mario is a multi-year probowler, was the highest paid defensive player ever in the NFL until JJ just got his new contract, and is currently having another stud year as he's #4 in sacks in the NFL.
Are you a Colts or Jags fan or something ?
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Spare me with the stuff about Mario. Mario is no longer here and wasn't resigned for a reason. Everyone with any real NFL awareness that the Mario contract was a total blowout mistake by the BIlls. Their team is still horrible and going nowhere. Mario has never been a constant pressure guy that effects entire games like elite pass rushers do. Defensive Line guys always get over paid with the new contracts as they typically get more than the last guy got which has always been a foolish method in the NFL. Watt is probably the only top paid DE that is actually worth what his contract is giving him at this moment. Mario gets his sacks here and there and makes a few statistical measures look good when he isn't taking plays off, but around that his motor goes 50% throughout a game.
 
thunderkyss said:
You're wrong.
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Troll all you want on this issue, but the results speak for itself at this point. He had no business being a #1 draft pick much less the greatest prospect in the last 30 years nonsense. The Texans basically went into the last draft with their first pick being at the top of the 2nd round.
 
Texecutioner said:
Troll all you want on this issue, but the results speak for itself at this point. He had no business being a #1 draft pick much less the greatest prospect in the last 30 years nonsense. The Texans basically went into the last draft with their first pick being at the top of the 2nd round.
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I didn't want Clowney as the pick and you're ridiculous on this issue. Change your pampers and move on.
 
infantrycak said:
I didn't want Clowney as the pick and you're ridiculous on this issue. Change your pampers and move on.
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The truth hurts? Again, results speak for themselves. You don't have any leeway to call me ridiculous after constantly apologizing for Mario's 50% pursuit on downs here for years and seeing what has happened with Clowney so far. You guys just don't like things being brought back up.
 
Texecutioner said:
The truth hurts? Again, results speak for themselves. You don't have any leeway to call me ridiculous after constantly apologizing for Mario's 50% pursuit on downs here for years and seeing what has happened with Clowney so far. You guys just don't like things being brought back up.
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No sense to keep harping on the past either. It's done and not gonna change. Everyone knows your feelings.


Isn't Arian playing great? Hopkins is looking solid. And how about that 1st pick from a few years ago? That pizza delivery boy playing great!
 
Texecutioner said:
The truth hurts? Again, results speak for themselves. You don't have any leeway to call me ridiculous after constantly apologizing for Mario's 50% pursuit on downs here for years and seeing what has happened with Clowney so far. You guys just don't like things being brought back up.
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What's happened with Clowney so far? I would think him playing on a knee that requires subsequent surgery would kill all that "poor work ethic" or motivation talk.
 
thunderkyss said:
What's happened with Clowney so far? I would think him playing on a knee that requires subsequent surgery would kill all that "poor work ethic" or motivation talk.
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Him playing extremely ineffective for a few games when there was allegedly some problems with other players in the locker room feeling like he should have been out there doesn't deflect that at all. He got the entire season off basically. Hell, earlier in this thread I said to shut him down for year as far as what I figured we could expect. His history in his final season can't just be erased. Clowney has all of the ability to prove me wrong next year if he is able to play even then. I dare him to do it.
 
Texecutioner said:
Him playing extremely ineffective for a few games when there was allegedly some problems with other players in the locker room feeling like he should have been out there doesn't deflect that at all. He got the entire season off basically. Hell, earlier in this thread I said to shut him down for year as far as what I figured we could expect. His history in his final season can't just be erased. Clowney has all of the ability to prove me wrong next year if he is able to play even then. I dare him to do it.
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Yeah, & after they btched, it turns out he needs another surgery, so they were talking out their ass. He was going above & beyond trying to prove them all wrong, trying to turn around "perception" & now I only hope he didn't screw up his knee for good.

Kids got heart. A lot of it.
 
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Yeah, & after they btched, it turns out he needs another surgery, so they were talking out their ass. He was going above & beyond trying to prove them all wrong, trying to turn around "perception" & now I only hope he didn't screw up his knee for good.

Kids got heart. A lot of it.
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Heart?? Somewhere Spurrier is falling over laughing about that one. :spit:
 
thunderkyss said:
He was playing on a bum knee. Everyone else was telling him he wasn't feeling any pain. He was playing through it... what do you call it?
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I don't call anything he has ever done as far as heart. Talent maybe, but that is it. DOn't sit here and act like he went out there like some wild man while hurt. He has two disappointing back to back years going for him now. Sorry, but it is what it is. He has a long road to disprove his critics at this point.
 
Texecutioner said:
I don't call anything he has ever done as far as heart. Talent maybe, but that is it. DOn't sit here and act like he went out there like some wild man while hurt. He has two disappointing back to back years going for him now. Sorry, but it is what it is. He has a long road to disprove his critics at this point.
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I think the critics know what's what..... I was a critic. I didn't want to draft JaDaveon Clowney.

The haters... they'll never be satisfied
 
mussop said:
Yep. They are too busy making up **** and patting themselves on the back. Boy are they going to look STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Clowney thread I linked is a 146 pages full of fail from you shouting down on anyone that didn't think Clowney was the man. You are the last one to be in any position to say that anyone will be looking stupid.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think the critics know what's what..... I was a critic. I didn't want to draft JaDaveon Clowney.

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Satisfied with what? Lol!

Did he even record a tackle? This isn't hating. This is nothing but a confirmation of a bad investment that can't be disputed one bit no matter how much spin you push out there. Sure, he can turn this thing around, but until then he is every bit as bad of a #1 pick that has ever existed. Hating would be more like bashing a guy who had a great season and then picking out his flaws and focusing on them. Clowney hasn't had a great season in over two years and when you're the #1 draft pick expectations are high. Extremely high, and you are expected to be an impact player in that first season.
 
Texecutioner said:
The Clowney thread I linked is a 146 pages full of fail from you shouting down on anyone that didn't think Clowney was the man. You are the last one to be in any position to say that anyone will be looking stupid.
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There isn't one argument by me in that thread that you can even give a reasonable counter to. You had no good points then and you have none now. Nothing has been PROVEN yet about Clowney. You didn't like him because you fell for all the B.S. that was being spewed by the haters. You were easily influenced and now you are one of them. Now in true hater form you come here pounding your chest and screaming as loud as you can, "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, I WAS RIGHT" when we havent even had a chance to see him play because of an injury. I don't need to point out how stupid that looks. It's obvious to anyone with even an of common sense.

When all is said and done we will see who is the one with all the FAIL post on this subject. I have no worries with your track record who that will be.
 
I'm still perplexed why after 3 months it was Dr. James Andrews who had to tell the Houston Texans Owners, Coaches and Medical Staff to shut Clowney down.
 
mussop said:
There isn't one argument by me in that thread that you can even give a reasonable counter to. You had no good points then and you have none now. Nothing has been PROVEN yet about Clowney. You didn't like him because you fell for all the B.S. that was being spewed by the haters. You were easily influenced and now you are one of them. Now in true hater form you come here pounding your chest and screaming as loud as you can, "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, I WAS RIGHT" when we havent even had a chance to see him play because of an injury. I don't need to point out how stupid that looks. It's obvious to anyone with even an of common sense.
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I don't think that's it. He wanted a QB... specifically he wanted Blake Bortles. The Texans didn't do what he wanted & now, everything they do is wrong.

He doesn't understand the draft. Still don't see that Mario was the best pick from the 2006 draft. In the back of his mind, he was right then as well & had we done what he wanted, we'd have been better off for it. VY or Reggie would have been a success here & took us to the play-offs many times over.

10 years from now, we won't be able to discern the difference between Blake Bortle's career & Tom Savage's... but he doesn't get it.
 
Texian said:
I'm still perplexed why after 3 months it was Dr. James Andrews who had to tell the Houston Texans Owners, Coaches and Medical Staff to shut Clowney down.
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It's not like he looked at his knee & said, "Shut him down." He told them that Clowney needs another surgery. With the recovery time, it pretty much means his season is over.
 
thunderkyss said:
It's not like he looked at his knee & said, "Shut him down." He told them that Clowney needs another surgery. With the recovery time, it pretty much means his season is over.
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Yeah, that is exactly what it was like. In less than 24 hours after Clowney saw Andrews they shut him down. Why is it no one in Houston Texans organization could figure this out. It was a no brainer for Andrews.
 
Texecutioner said:
The truth hurts? Again, results speak for themselves. You don't have any leeway to call me ridiculous after constantly apologizing for Mario's 50% pursuit on downs here for years and seeing what has happened with Clowney so far. You guys just don't like things being brought back up.
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It's just that one or two, maybe three "I told you so"'s would have been quite sufficient.

And I, for one, am not ready to write Clowney completely off just yet. It took Mercilus a couple of years to become a fairly decent player; and that's without missing most of camp/pre-season/regular season as Clowney did. So I'm willing to see what happens with him next year.
After all, we all know they ain't gonna cut him any time soon.
 
It was also reported that it was Clowney (not the Texans) who wanted a second opinion. Sounds like JD got some sage advice from someone outside of the Texans Organization..
 
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