burro
probably drunk
Agreed, our special teams haven't been truly worth a damn since the days of
Jerome Mathis. I would like to see some degree of focus on our special teams this offseason.
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Jacoby's Gotta Go/**UPDATE**Released
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Agreed, our special teams haven't been truly worth a damn since the days of
Jerome Mathis. I would like to see some degree of focus on our special teams this offseason.
gary
Hall of Fame
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Okay, three of those posts you quoted were wishing him ill.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I understand that the numbers add up (JJ's mistake cost us 7, we lost by 7) but I don't think for a minute that his mistake cost us the game. I think it was one in a long list of reasons why he shouldn't be here anymore. It's more akin to the straw that broke the camels back.
The guy has been screwing up regularly for years and making a play every now and then to keep from getting run off. Nobody would be piling on if the Texans had gotten rid of him when they needed to.
The end result is that this year he made three more starts than last season and managed to catch 20 fewer passes. When AJ went down he was exactly as useless as I expected him to be. Now, in what was clearly the biggest game of his career and in the Texans decade of existence he not only doesn't catch a single pass proving yet again that calling him a "wide receiver" is like some sort of colossal joke but he can't even reliably handle punt return duties. That was supposed to be the saving grace of keeping this guy on the roster. His "dangerous return game" can't be discounted right?
Right.
The guy has been screwing up regularly for years and making a play every now and then to keep from getting run off. Nobody would be piling on if the Texans had gotten rid of him when they needed to.
The end result is that this year he made three more starts than last season and managed to catch 20 fewer passes. When AJ went down he was exactly as useless as I expected him to be. Now, in what was clearly the biggest game of his career and in the Texans decade of existence he not only doesn't catch a single pass proving yet again that calling him a "wide receiver" is like some sort of colossal joke but he can't even reliably handle punt return duties. That was supposed to be the saving grace of keeping this guy on the roster. His "dangerous return game" can't be discounted right?
Right.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
But note: mine was not. I just want him gone..... like I've wanted him gone for the past two years.
gary
Hall of Fame
And hate too.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I don't hate the guy. I just hate his game. I think he is a fool because he does things like injure himself trying to show off and that stupid little "I'm so bad, look at me" walk he like to do on the rare occasions that he does something good.
Having him instead of a real WR to compliment AJ cost us dearly this season.
But I don't hate Jacoby. Jacoby didn't give himself way too much money or keep penciling himself into a roster spot that he wasn't worthy of. Just like David Carr didn't pick himself 1st overall (and I don't hate him for that) Jacoby didn't put himself in this position deep in over his head.
The Texans did that. Today the Texans paid for that. I say "The Texans" because I don't know if it's a Gary thing, a Rick thing, or what. I just know someone there keeps seeing something in Jacoby Jones that doesn't exist.
Scooter
Funky
i'm not going to go as overboard to be hateful, but i agree with the title ... and in that regard i was wrong. i missed with slaton as a homerun hitter, and now again with jacoby. funny enough that i typically hate that type of all or nothing player, but i supported and defended the resigning of jacoby. now that the season is over ... i am comfortable calling him a waste of money.
i thought that he would grow by getting into his second contract. i thought he would age during the lockout. kubiak set the tone and made him an example on a few occasions. jones has had time to figure it out and the authority figures in place to hammer it home. he has his momma in the stands (and likely here too), but he just cant get his head on straight. lazy, undisciplined, unfocused ... it's just not going to happen.
i was wrong. we need to replace one player more than any other next season, and it's jacoby at both receiver and returner.
i thought that he would grow by getting into his second contract. i thought he would age during the lockout. kubiak set the tone and made him an example on a few occasions. jones has had time to figure it out and the authority figures in place to hammer it home. he has his momma in the stands (and likely here too), but he just cant get his head on straight. lazy, undisciplined, unfocused ... it's just not going to happen.
i was wrong. we need to replace one player more than any other next season, and it's jacoby at both receiver and returner.
Countreekidd
Noob
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chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
He's a bum. My post and feelings were clear. No threats no ill will wished. He's a bum and I hope he never catches another pass or fields another punt for this team. Which isn't much of a stretch since there's a good chance he wouldn't do either even if he remained a Texan with his lobster claw hands. He Sux if you don't like it I don't know what to tell you. I won't change my feelings about this guy. This isn't the fun fair football league.
Scooter
Funky
heck of a first post, and not one anybody's going to believe. any reason we should even give this post a second thought?
i'm leaning towards a quick ban, but want to hear the response.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Know by whom? News to me and probably a good number of people here.
I'm not about starting rumors...he's just horrible and needs to be gone.
FWIW Vonta and Rice did Nodda today .... while Foster was gashing them for chunks.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Is this true? If so then he gets even less sympathy from me. I can tell he isn't bright but if you're that dumb and irresponsible that you'd risk blowing a golden opportunity to make a great living playing a sport then I really want him gone.
sluggo832004
Practice Squad
It was only a matter of time before Jacoby jones pulled this bonehead play.
We all know jacoby is a mistake waiting to happen.
But the powers that be thought he was a great compliment to AJ.:mariopalm:
This is what happens when you resign guys who are proven to be average and knuckleheads. Dont get mad at Jacoby.
Get mad at the guy who gave him a contract.
We all know jacoby is a mistake waiting to happen.
But the powers that be thought he was a great compliment to AJ.:mariopalm:
This is what happens when you resign guys who are proven to be average and knuckleheads. Dont get mad at Jacoby.
Get mad at the guy who gave him a contract.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
No its not true. JJ has had no problems like that while he has played for the Texans.
I may not like JJ right now, but Libel like this is wrong and hurtful to a persons character
I may not like JJ right now, but Libel like this is wrong and hurtful to a persons character
TexansFanatic
Extremist
The guy who gave Jacoby a contract also gave a hell of a lot of great players contracts.
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
Because the run game suffered so badly and we were awash with good, explosive wide outs?
Scooter
Funky
It was only a matter of time before Jacoby jones pulled this bonehead play.
We all know jacoby is a mistake waiting to happen.
But the powers that be thought he was a great compliment to AJ.:mariopalm:
This is what happens when you resign guys who are proven to be average and knuckleheads. Dont get mad at Jacoby.
Get mad at the guy who gave him a contract.
The day we signed Jacoby, I wanted to go run through traffic. I just couldn't believe we still wanted to continue this experiment. He makes enough plays through the year that he'll sometimes make you think he's getting it, but at the end of the day a knucklehead will be a knucklehead. He is what he is. Let's end this and let Maehl and Lestar Jean take over. I'm pretty sure they'll bring more to the table.
I'm also all for bringing Walter back, but he needs to take a big time pay cut. His salary is ridiculous for the production he's given us the past couple of years. I like him, but just not for the money he's getting.
Countreekidd
Noob
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Jacoby Jones has got to go he did nothing but screw up the entire game this fool was dropping punts galore and he really all but gave away all momentum in the entire first half and he did nothing in the passing game. Kevin Walters is stealing money too he dropped one pass in the chest that killed a drive in the first half, these two guys need to be dropped and it's time for some new wide outs to go with andre it's just time to move on period no excuses.
Countreekidd
Noob
kwayshauntay
Waterboy
Just saw Dilfer on ESPN say "Jacoby Jones, one of the great returners in this league, but..."
LOLWUT?
Credibility = 0
LOLWUT?
Credibility = 0
He was arrested while falling asleep behind the wheel drunk at a red light over in the Montrose area in 2008..
Dont state opinion as fact .... Back it up with a link or .... STFU.
eh... Jacoby has had some good games as a return man. His production matches that of the $5M guy.... I think it's a wash.
If the guy we get in the offseason doesn't have the speed to stretch the field, Jacoby stays... he may be #4 on the depth chart & Walter 3rd.
I don't mind getting rid of both of them.... I was hoping Mason was going to do something & shake up our depth chart.... didn't happen.
Countreekidd
Noob
despite the "stfu", I can see that this has people rather upset, so I erased my comment
Brandon420tx
Flounder
Good Call corrosion
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/56917
Hardly a recurring trend though, so don't make him out to be the posterboy for drunk driving.
I really don't care about the above incident, and it has no basis what so ever for me not wanting JJ in a Texans uniform next season. I hope he gets his career restarted with another team, as I do with all players that leave our organization.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/56917
Hardly a recurring trend though, so don't make him out to be the posterboy for drunk driving.
I really don't care about the above incident, and it has no basis what so ever for me not wanting JJ in a Texans uniform next season. I hope he gets his career restarted with another team, as I do with all players that leave our organization.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I understand that. All things being equal I'd prefer Leach to Vickers. I think he's a much better FB and keeping JJ while letting Leach go was nuts.
Don't be so hard on yourself.... we kept throwing our talent at the defensive side of the ball trying to get that thing fixed. Now that we have a defensive guru to match our offensive guru, we should be able to find a better receiver.
The defense is young enough for us to go heavy on the offense this off-season.... all will be right with the world.
Countreekidd
Noob
I'm actually sorry I brought it up
You know what guys we need to get away from this potential crap and move from Jacoby Jones, Kevin Walter, Trindon Holiday all these so-called 3rd options WR's they are pure garbage all of them. Kevin Walters drop a 3rd down pass that halted a drive in the 1st half that hit him dead in the chest and he dropped the pass and I just lost it. Jacoby Jones there is no explanation for this scrub I say bring in a good young F/A like Dwayne Bowe (KC), Harry Douglass (ATL) or Desean Jackson and still draft a Wideout in round 1 or 2 and let's move away from these crappy no catching wr's who are stealing money.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
As long as people don't use it as a sticking point for wanting JJ gone, I don't see it as a problem. This should have no bearing on anyone's feeling towards JJ continuing with this team, his recent performance on the field should
I just think Jacoby needs a change of scenery to better himself in my opinion. He won't fully develop here. It hasn't happened up to this point, and it never will. Its time for the Texans to cut bait and let this guy get a reality check, and really go to a team that isn't going to cuff his sack to make him feel like he's better than what he is. Maybe then he'll know that he needs to work 10 times harder to be all that he can be in this league.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
No, it's absolutely not!
C'mon, people. Try to set an example for your kids, for crying out loud.
Some of you act like Jacoby failed intentionally. Ludicrous.
He made a mistake. He needs a new start. Let's move on with some class.
Pieman2005
Practice Squad
I really feel we could have won if not for his drop PUNT return WTF. Yes Yates had a few INTs but he's a ROOKIE QB.. not just catching a PUNT. 
Brandon420tx
Flounder
I agree, he'd benefit from a more vertical passing system. Like Pittsburgh or Oakland for example
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
I hope he goes to Tennessee. I just think Jacoby is what he is. He's not a good receiver, and he's an average punt returner when he doesn't make bonehead mistakes.
Scooter
Funky
you're right, i just hate supporting the underdog only to see what should be a veteran lay another rookie egg (made worse by a contract that could've gone to leach or funneled into this coming season). indeed we've given our defense every asset possible, as we've both made perfectly clear waiting on a coach to take advantage of it, but i was really hoping that jones would be the bright spot on offense this season. that's clearly not the case and it's becoming painfully obvious that we need to draft jacoby's replacement and AJ's successor.
i only hope now that jacoby's contract isnt prohibitive and we can save a few bucks by cutting him to free up cap space for mario/foster/myers/draft.
I really feel we could have won if not for his drop PUNT return WTF. Yes Yates had a few INTs but he's a ROOKIE QB.. not just catching a PUNT.
That's because you believe everything else would have happened the way it did minus that one infraction.
Truth is, with a 14-3 lead, the old men Ravens probably took a nap, allowing us to score 10 points... Once we got it that close, the Ravens woke up & put the kabosh on our offense.
The score probably would have been 10-3 Ravens if it weren't for that miff......
truth is, we don't know. There's no way to tell. What we do know, is that the score was 17-13 to start the 3rd qtr.
20-13 at the end of the 4th
blame Jacoby & you'll never understand why we lost that game.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Who would you rather have Vonta Leach or Lawrence Vickers? One's going to the Pro Bowl (again) and the other was picked up off the street as insurance.
The price difference is significant but it's not like spending that money on JJ in any way solved the explosive wide out problem you mentioned. I mean, if we spent that money on someone who could actually do that job then sure, I see the point in it. We didn't though.
3 years@10.5 million for JJ + The 2 years@3 million we had to pay Vickers to come in and do what Leach used to do (no extra charge for the stone hands. Those come with the package)
vs
3 years @ 11 million just to keep Leach.
It was only a matter of time before Jacoby jones pulled this bonehead play.
We all know jacoby is a mistake waiting to happen.
But the powers that be thought he was a great compliment to AJ.:mariopalm:
This is what happens when you resign guys who are proven to be average and knuckleheads. Dont get mad at Jacoby.
Get mad at the guy who gave him a contract.
yeah.. get mad at THAT guy who also gave contracts to Jonathan Joseph and Danieal Manning, etc.. THAT guy
Scooter
Funky
i was in favor of giving jones the contract. he'd shown a progression in his maturity and gave the impression that he'd turned the corner. for me, and i'm assuming those in charge, this wasnt a "potential" contract - it was given to a kid who appeared to have already taken on a man's role on the field.
we were wrong. he's still a kid and we'd have more luck herding cats than we would putting jacoby through his paces.
we were wrong. he's still a kid and we'd have more luck herding cats than we would putting jacoby through his paces.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
I really don't care how I'm coming across when I talk about Jacoby Jones. I'm a Suns, Braves, Texans, and Sabres fan. You know what? I've ****ing had enough of my teams' luck and I've had enough of stupid players doing stupid things to cost my teams big spots in the playoffs.
There comes a point where you just don't care anymore and you're going to be brutally honest. I'm sick of my teams beating themselves or having just the most absurd crap happen otherwise.
There comes a point where you just don't care anymore and you're going to be brutally honest. I'm sick of my teams beating themselves or having just the most absurd crap happen otherwise.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
We'll just have to spend that money on some other wide-out now. We weren't going to win it all without Schaub this year anyway. Eventually, that money will be well spent and we won't miss Leach so much, even though he is tha man.
Cut Jones, reward Foster, get a good wide-out, etc. and get ready for next year because it's looking bright.
Cut Jones, reward Foster, get a good wide-out, etc. and get ready for next year because it's looking bright.
