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Jacoby's Gotta Go/**UPDATE**Released

Playoffs said:
Some people shouldn't be allowed to procreate. :mariopalm:
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What that guy did doesn't really bother me. If you want to burn a jersey that you bought and paid for, in your own pit, and in your own lawn....by all means, knock yourself out. pour the gas and light a match.


Just don't go do it on said player's front lawn. :)
 
Can't believe idiots are sending Jacoby death threats. People, we are human beings, not savages. Get a damn grip.

You know, I'm less angry at Jacboy than I am at Gary's constant babying and excuse-making he has done for this guy. Jacoby has been coddled, and it came back to bite Gary in the ass. As Gary himself would say, "it's on me."

Yes, Gary, it is.
 
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infantrycak said:
Where are you getting these numbers? His entire contract was 3 years $10.5 mil with $3 mil in the form of the first year's salary guaranteed. He can be cut with no cap hit (the guaranteed money has been spent) but he wouldn't earn close to $5 mil next year even if he stayed.
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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/jacoby-jones/

I thought it looked a bit skewed so maybe the info is unreliable. I'd assumed they might have worked some cap magic to remove the guaranteed from the first year.
 
houstonspartan said:
Can't believe idiots are sending Jacoby death threats. People, we are human beings, not savages. Get a damn grip.

You know, I'm less angry at Jacboy than I am at Gary's constant babying and excuse-making he has done for this guy. Jacoby has been coddled, and it came back to bite Gary in the ass. As Gary himself would say, "it's on me."

Yes, Gary, it is.
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Yep. There is an old saying - "You reap what you sow" - and it works for both individuals and organizations.

While Jacoby is the target for his stupid decisions, I can't help but look at the organization that has continually kept him on the payroll and rewarded his mediocrity with millions of dollars. That kind of coddling culture needs to change if this team is going to take it to the next level.
 
Double Barrel said:
Yep. There is an old saying - "You reap what you sow" - and it works for both individuals and organizations.

While Jacoby is the target for his stupid decisions, I can't help but look at the organization that has continually kept him on the payroll and rewarded his mediocrity with millions of dollars. That kind of coddling culture needs to change if this team is going to take it to the next level.
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He''s always been a high risk / high reward type of player . Having said that the Pats had Welker returning punts against the Broncos . Why ... I assume it's because he's a sure handed smart player .
 
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, has there been one credible report that this stuff actually happened to Jacoby? Chron.com has nothing and they've already posted up two pieces on him.
 
Yes, he played like crap yesterday. The key work is "played", as in a game. He played in a "game" and played crappy. I am as much of a die hard fan as anyone on here and I get pissed when we lose. Sure, I cuss and complain, but to actually wish ill will on someone, or threaten to kill them because of a game, is just moronic. I was actually shocked when I first heard the reports of people burning their jersey and making threats. What in the hell is the point? We're better than that as fans of the Texans and as human beings. Some people need to remember what the hell is actually important in life and realize that sports is just an outlet for us to enjoy. Period.

As to him being here next year, I hope we cut or trade him. He shows flashes, but that isn't enough. He isn't consistent and has been around too long to overlook his glaring weaknesses that he brings as a receiver. He isn't the best route runner and doesn't have the best hands. However, he made some great downfield blocks for us this season in the run game. I give him props for that.
 
Corrosion said:
Havent seen this on any legit news source .... Is this the only mention of it in the media. I dont trust some dude on twitter Ive neer heard of much.
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Addiction...death threats....lynch mobs....

This thread is taking a turn into urban legend territory.
 
My reasoning for Yates to get a pass...he tossed 3 INTs trying to get the ball to one of the most dangerous weapons in the NFL. AJ has made spectacular plays his entire career. I don't blame Yates for it. Our TEs were non-existent, our other WRs may not have even been in the stadium so who do you throw to when you need yards? AJ.
 
I hope they catch every moron that made a death threat and stick it to them as hard as they can. What kind of a dumbass looser does this? Absolute retards!!
 
Jadopey jones is our Steve bartman. Except jadopey actually played a role in our loss and deserves the fans ire. Not threats or Ill will but all the criticism is justified. So those that are hyper sensitive to name calling put me on your ignore list. Jadopey must go.
 
I think we made several good to very good off-season moves last year. Re-signing Jones was NOT one of them.

I made it known I didn't like it when we did it and I've only gotten more peeved since.
 
Mr. White said:
Addiction...death threats....lynch mobs....

This thread is taking a turn into urban legend territory.
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Urban legend indeed. Maybe started and perpetuated by someone loyal to Jacoby to garner some sympathy to ease off fan's anger?

There is NOTHING out there to substantiate any of these stories short of some nobody's Twitter feed.
 
Is there any story on what happened at his house? I heard someone put a for Sale sign in his front yard but it seems like this might be mostly BS.
 
Just saw this on Twitter.

Jacoby Jones Never in Any Danger

HOUSTON - Despite news reports and Texans fans' websites that said otherwise, the agent for receiver/punt returner Jacoby Jones, Kennard McGuire, told FOX 26 Sports that his client was never in any danger Sunday night.

McGuire said he did hear fans threaten Jones during telephone calls to local radio stations, but nothing beyond that.

However, McGuire took no chances.

Read more: http://www.myfoxhouston.com//dpp/sports/nfl/120116-jacoby-jones-never-in-any-danger#ixzz1jfAksC2p
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JamesBill said:
Is there any story on what happened at his house? I heard someone put a for Sale sign in his front yard but it seems like this might be mostly BS.
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:) OK, if that happened, I'm sorry........that is funny!


I don't support burning stuff in his yard, threatening his life, but I'd LMAO if I saw someone stick a for sale sign in his yard.
 
PapaL said:
My reasoning for Yates to get a pass...he tossed 3 INTs trying to get the ball to one of the most dangerous weapons in the NFL. AJ has made spectacular plays his entire career. I don't blame Yates for it. Our TEs were non-existent, our other WRs may not have even been in the stadium so who do you throw to when you need yards? AJ.
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Maybe that's because Yates never looked for anyone else. He decided who the play was going to based on the coverage he thought he saw and stared the #1 option down every time. It wasn't just A.J., he stared down KW on that deep ball to the left side. If you have the means, watch the game again and tell me any play where his head swiveled like it would if he was going through his progressions. Tell me where you saw him actually check down to an underneath guy.

It's possible that he may earn Schaub's job one future day, but right now, T.J. has a good bit of work to do before that happens.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Fantastic... Now I can go back to full on hating him again without a hint of guilt or remorse. :)
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Hating someone and wishing actual harm on them on two different things. I would never hope that some numbskull would try to do anything harmfull to Jacoby, that's just wrong. But, as a football player, I hate him. As a actual real person, I haven't the slightest idea of what to think about him so I just don't.
 
Thorn said:
Hating someone and wishing actual harm on them on two different things. I would never hope that some numbskull would try to do anything harmfull to Jacoby, that's just wrong. But, as a football player, I hate him. As a actual real person, I haven't the slightest idea of what to think about him so I just don't.
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Exactly. I hate him as a player, just like I hate the bad guy in rasslin, lol. I wish no harm upon the dude, he may be a cool mofo in his personal life you never know.
 
ObsiWan said:
Maybe that's because Yates never looked for anyone else. He decided who the play was going to based on the coverage he thought he saw and stared the #1 option down every time. It wasn't just A.J., he stared down KW on that deep ball to the left side. If you have the means, watch the game again and tell me any play where his head swiveled like it would if he was going through his progressions. Tell me where you saw him actually check down to an underneath guy.

It's possible that he may earn Schaub's job one future day, but right now, T.J. has a good bit of work to do before that happens.
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I agree, maybe one day but not any Sunday coming up.
 
ObsiWan said:
Maybe that's because Yates never looked for anyone else. He decided who the play was going to based on the coverage he thought he saw and stared the #1 option down every time. It wasn't just A.J., he stared down KW on that deep ball to the left side. If you have the means, watch the game again and tell me any play where his head swiveled like it would if he was going through his progressions. Tell me where you saw him actually check down to an underneath guy.

It's possible that he may earn Schaub's job one future day, but right now, T.J. has a good bit of work to do before that happens.
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Let's suppose for a moment that something happens and Schaub doesn't come back. Do you think that with the benefit of the offseason and training camp that TJ could be coached up enough to be the starter next season?
 
gary said:
Does calling him names make you feel like more of a man?
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Nope...no more or no less, but it does make me feel better. :pissed:


Sorry Gary, I don't care to hear a defense for this guy. This clown should've been cut yesterday. This wasn't just one boneheaded play...it's was another boneheaded play from a player that has committed a entire string of boneheaded plays throughout his career. He needs to go play for another team, heck maybe we'll start benefiting from his play on the field then.....when we play against him.


Doesn't matter though, in a couple of seasons I think Janobody Jones will be out of the NFL completely.
 
Thorn said:
Let's suppose for a moment that something happens and Schaub doesn't come back. Do you think that with the benefit of the offseason and training camp that TJ could be coached up enough to be the starter next season?
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Yates would definitely be the starter next season if Schaub didn't make it back. The biggest reason is who are you going to replace him with? We're picking in the mid 20s and this is a very crappy QB draft. He's actually a better option than anyone you'd get in the draft at that spot. :) Who are you going to replace him with? Ryan Tannanhil (oh god, please no) who also has a broke foot.

In the big scheme of things, Yates didn't play that poorly this season and played well enough to think he could grow and develop into a capable pinch starter.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Nope...no more or no less, but it does make me feel better. :pissed:


Sorry Gary, I don't care to hear a defense for this guy. This clown should've been cut yesterday. This wasn't just one boneheaded play...it's was another boneheaded play from a player that has committed a entire string of boneheaded plays throughout his career. He needs to go play for another team, heck maybe we'll start benefiting from his play on the field then.....when we play against him.


Doesn't matter though, in a couple of seasons I think Janobody Jones will be out of the NFL completely.
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Who is to blame for him still being here? Does calling him names make the Texans a winner?
 
gary said:
Who is to blame for him still being here? Does calling him names make the Texans a winner?
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I don't get what your argument here is...

Does defending jacoby make the Texans a winner?

Does anything we type here make the Texans a winner?

Does anything we type here or say on the radio have any outcome on what the Texans do? No it doesn't.


If I want to vent and call Jacoby a jackass, I can do that....and he is a jackass. What he did (or didn't do) yesterday was football 101. GET THE **** AWAY FROM A ERRATIC KICK! Freaking high school players know better and he's in the freaking NFL.

I'm not going to come on this board and baby him or coddle him, that's one of the things that got us in this mess in the first place. If he doesn't like how fans are responding to him then FINE....DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. He needs to go to the doctor and surgically have his head removed from his ass and start using his freaking brain, because he isn't a rookie.

Next season will be his 6th in the league and he's still making rookie mistakes. If he wants to shut people up.....play better. PLAY SMARTER! The only thing he's been able to be consistent at during his tenure in the NFL is his ungodly ability to consistently pull off stupid crap. :kubepalm: His act is old and is played out in this city...time to find another gig and take the song and dance down the road.

and I'm not yelling at you Gary..my anger is projected towards Mr. Jackass.
 
Sick of hearing "durrrrrrrr, who's responsible for him being here still?"

You know what? He IS here. And he's being paid millions of dollars to catch and return a ****ing punt and more importantly, not make stupid decisions.

Not only did he NOT catch it. He let it bounce, THEN caught it. Deep in his OWN end. IN the playoffs. ON the road. AGAINST Baltimore. UP three points. AFTER a massive defensive stop.

You can play "he should have never been here to begin with" all you want. He shouldn't have. But you know what? He was.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Yates would definitely be the starter next season if Schaub didn't make it back. The biggest reason is who are you going to replace him with? We're picking in the mid 20s and this is a very crappy QB draft. He's actually a better option than anyone you'd get in the draft at that spot. :) Who are you going to replace him with? Ryan Tannanhil (oh god, please no) who also has a broke foot.

In the big scheme of things, Yates didn't play that poorly this season and played well enough to think he could grow and develop into a capable pinch starter.
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Go back and watch those games CB. He played like a another Joe Flacco type in waiting. NO way in hell I want him as a starter here ever. We were stuck with him, because we had nobody else and he'd be a good back up, but he'll most likely be a career back up in this league or a stop gap player for some team that is rebuilding and looking for their franchise QB. If Yates ever becomes our full time starter, we'll struggle for a few years until we find out that he's just average at best.
 
Kubiak defended him in his press conferance, and did make mention that Jacoby will be back next year. That could be true, or it could just be Coach Speak, you just don't know. You really don't want your head coach to come out right after a game and say who's he's getting rid of for next year. That's a good way to lose the locker room.

Also, not all draft picks pan out. Jacoby is one of them. Time to cut the loses and move on.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Sick of hearing "durrrrrrrr, who's responsible for him being here still?"

You know what? He IS here. And he's being paid millions of dollars to catch and return a ****ing punt and more importantly, not make stupid decisions.

Not only did he NOT catch it. He let it bounce, THEN caught it. Deep in his OWN end. IN the playoffs. ON the road. AGAINST Baltimore. UP three points. AFTER a massive defensive stop.

You can play "he should have never been here to begin with" all you want. He shouldn't have. But you know what? He was.
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While I agree with you that it's all on Jacoby, you do have to admit that it makes the front office look stupid for signing the dude to a three year deal. Way too many fans saw his shortcomings last year and before, so for them to continue to coddle the guy just makes no sense.

Sorry that you are tired of hearing it, but now that we are automatically jolted into our off-season, it's time to do the fan thing and evaluate every little aspect of our franchise. :fingergun:

Here's the big question: WILL JACOBY BE HERE IN 2012?

My Magic 8 Ball says "Better not tell you now".
 
Texecutioner said:
Go back and watch those games CB. He played like a another Joe Flacco type in waiting. NO way in hell I want him as a starter here ever. We were stuck with him, because we had nobody else and he'd be a good back up, but he'll most likely be a career back up in this league or a stop gap player for some team that is rebuilding and looking for their franchise QB. If Yates ever becomes our full time starter, we'll struggle for a few years until we find out that he's just average at best.
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Go read the question i responded to.. The question was, if Schaub couldn't go next season would Yates be the starter. Sorry, but the realistic answer is Yes he would.

There's nobody in the draft at their spot that's going to beat out Yates (and Tannehill is the only QB projected to go around there)

Who's going to be available on the FA market that Houston can pick up to replace a guy who already has experience in the system.


If Schaub can't go at the start of next season T.J. Yates will be the starter...I was never talking about him being a long term solution, but the O.P. said "next season". Next season Yates would be the starter...after that, who knows, it depends on what happened with Schaub.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Go read the question i responded to.. The question was, if Schaub couldn't go next season would Yates be the starter. Sorry, but the realistic answer is Yes he would.

There's nobody in the draft at their spot that's going to beat out Yates (and Tannehill is the only QB projected to go around there)

Who's going to be available on the FA market that Houston can pick up to replace a guy who already has experience in the system.


If Schaub can't go at the start of next season T.J. Yates will be the starter...I was never talking about him being a long term solution, but the O.P. said "next season". Next season Yates would be the starter...after that, who knows, it depends on what happened with Schaub.
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Oh okay then. I agree with you there, although it is no definite answer that he's better than Leinart. We didn't see a long enough sample to know for sure. I think he is probably just as good or a little better than Leinart most likely though.

If the Texans could make some big trades to land a franchise starter though that looks like the next big elite QB, I'd be all for it. Those guys are to hard to come by and sometimes you just have to make big ballsy trades to get one or take advantage if one slips like Rogers did.

If Schaub goes down for the season again though, we need to seriously find a new franchise starter.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Doesn't matter though, in a couple of seasons I think Janobody Jones will be out of the NFL completely.
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I don't. I bet he'll make it longer in the NFL than most of us think....... sorta like Jabar Gafney(sp).

I've got a Jacoby jersey & hope I'll be able to wear it next season. He's fun to watch & he definitely brings something to this team not many others do.

Arian Foster still loves the man, calls him his brother, loves to play with him....

I hope he stays.
 
Texecutioner said:
Go back and watch those games CB. He played like a another Joe Flacco type in waiting. NO way in hell I want him as a starter here ever. We were stuck with him, because we had nobody else and he'd be a good back up, but he'll most likely be a career back up in this league or a stop gap player for some team that is rebuilding and looking for their franchise QB. If Yates ever becomes our full time starter, we'll struggle for a few years until we find out that he's just average at best.
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There's nothing wrong with the way Yates played "for a rookie"

If he never moves past that... ala Joe Flacco... then it becomes a problem.

If his numbers get closer to Schaub's as time goes on, I'm good with that.
 
Texecutioner said:
Go back and watch those games CB. He played like a another Joe Flacco type in waiting. NO way in hell I want him as a starter here ever. We were stuck with him, because we had nobody else and he'd be a good back up, but he'll most likely be a career back up in this league or a stop gap player for some team that is rebuilding and looking for their franchise QB. If Yates ever becomes our full time starter, we'll struggle for a few years until we find out that he's just average at best.
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No training camp , no OTA's or mini-camps .... Being the scout team QB for the first 10 weeks ... Getting no reps with the #1's with a 5th round rookie who expected to do no more than hold a clipboard all season.

I think he did a commendable job all things considered .... despite being beaten on the road by one of the best defenses in the NFL in a sudden death game.

We have no idea what his ceiling is at this point. Get him a full offseason with OTA's , mini-camps and training camps and Im quite comfortable going into the season with Yates behind Schaub.
If he continues to develop he either becomes trade material or the heir apparent down the line.

If he doesnt at least you know the guy is a capable backup - better than the majority of backups in this league .... and has the experience of those two playoff games under his belt.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Sick of hearing "durrrrrrrr, who's responsible for him being here still?"

You know what? He IS here. And he's being paid millions of dollars to catch and return a ****ing punt and more importantly, not make stupid decisions.

Not only did he NOT catch it. He let it bounce, THEN caught it. Deep in his OWN end. IN the playoffs. ON the road. AGAINST Baltimore. UP three points. AFTER a massive defensive stop.

You can play "he should have never been here to begin with" all you want. He shouldn't have. But you know what? He was.
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Jacoby Jones has made mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake. Even within the 60 minutes of yesterday's game, he kept going out there making mistake after mistake. At some point, you have to look past Jones and realize that he is what he is and it takes a special kind of dumbass to keep putting the team's fortunes in his hands. If you were the coach, how many times would you have put him out there?
 
eriadoc said:
Jacoby Jones has made mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake. Even within the 60 minutes of yesterday's game, he kept going out there making mistake after mistake. At some point, you have to look past Jones and realize that he is what he is and it takes a special kind of dumbass to keep putting the team's fortunes in his hands. If you were the coach, how many times would you have put him out there?
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If I were coach, I probably wouldn't even have him as a returner. I would probably not even have him on my team anymore. But I wouldn't have let him see the field at all after the fumble.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Sorry but I can't approve of all this hate. People actually want to hurt him. I feel bad for the kid. He shouldn't fear for his life just because he tried. He just... didn't work out so let's just cut him and move forward.

As for placing blame SQUARELY on JJ... The Texans are known for trotting out Slaton at KR repeatedly, sticking with Brown, and tallying up an infinite number of blocks in the back. This is a coaching issue.

I wish we would fire Joe Marciano and have felt that way since he couldn't solve the new NFL rules regarding the wedge.
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It's like the movie Full Metal Jacket. He's causing the entire unit, a good unit, to be collectively punished. Jones earned his blanket party.

He's gone. McNair will see to that. McNair doesn't want the fans at the game turning on the team and he'll get his ass booed off if he's still here next year. It's purely business now.
 
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