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Injury Thread

ObsiWan said:
Nothing personal Dr. J. but I need this
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when I see you've posted something new in this thread :D

May I suggest a very much more healthy and therapeutic approach to your football trauma affliction! :D

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ObsiWan said:
You're the doctor with access to all sorts of interesting chemicals....
whatcha got?
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Let me introduce you to

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THIS IS THE MOST COMMON MODERN VERSION EXTRACTED FROM THE CHINESE WATER SNAKE. Sold on AMAZON.
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Drink it...........rub it on your hair to make it grow like wildflower, or anywhere on your body that pains you..........or just use it as a relaxing enema.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NOW BACK ON TRACK TO REAL INJURIES, PLEASE :tiphat:
 
ung14 said:
Cole knew right away that he will be out for awhile...likely the season.
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If Cole had a distal hamstring tendon tear, it's an uncommon type of injury..........it's a 10 week nonoperative recovery...........40% will require surgery anyway........surgical recovery whether performed acutely or after conservative failure will be ~8 weeks. If the hamstring tear was in the muscle, to be taken off by cart, it would probably be at least a Grade II tear..........minimum 3-6 weeks........with a very significant risk for re-injury upon return.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
If Cole had a distal hamstring tendon tear, it's an uncommon type of injury..........it's a 10 week nonoperative recovery...........40% will require surgery anyway........surgical recovery whether performed acutely or after conservative failure will be ~8 weeks. If the hamstring tear was in the muscle, to be taken off by cart, it would probably be at least a Grade II tear..........minimum 3-6 weeks........with a very significant risk for re-injury upon return.
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Dang! Knowing our staff, we'll give him two weeks, have him rip half his leg off, them shelve him for life..
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
If Cole had a distal hamstring tendon tear, it's an uncommon type of injury..........it's a 10 week nonoperative recovery...........40% will require surgery anyway........surgical recovery whether performed acutely or after conservative failure will be ~8 weeks. If the hamstring tear was in the muscle, to be taken off by cart, it would probably be at least a Grade II tear..........minimum 3-6 weeks........with a very significant risk for re-injury upon return.
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That just sucks for Cole. He was a very bright spot on defense for me.
 
I kept replaying the play that Clowney went down on.........the one every was calling a left upper thigh hit. As McKinney hit his left upper thigh, the hit followed through to the inside of his right knee area..........his microfracture knee.
 
Cole is on crutches. Typically, I would expect to see crutches for a hamstring tendon rupture or a Grade III hamstring muscle tear. When he was in the cart, he kept his foot bent.......something you tend to see in a hamstring tendon rupture or a severe hamstring muscle tear.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Cole is on crutches. Typically, I would expect to see crutches for a hamstring tendon rupture or a Grade III hamstring muscle tear. When he was in the cart, he kept his foot bent.......something you tend to see in a hamstring tendon rupture or a severe hamstring muscle tear.
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And the hits just keep on coming. I'm changing my Texans theme song to the MASH theme song.
 
I also suspect that with Clark going out with a calf strain and not coming back, he will be out for at least a couple of weeks with a high risk of re-injury for the rest of the season.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I also suspect that with Clark going out with a calf strain and not coming back, he will be out for at least a couple of weeks with a high risk of re-injury for the rest of the season.
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Not to get off subject, but is there any way the Texans can install a "metrocard turnstile" machine at LT? I fought those damned machines for 1.5 yrs. They're hard to get around for honest people. FYI: opposing players are not honest people.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Cole is on crutches. Typically, I would expect to see crutches for a hamstring tendon rupture or a Grade III hamstring muscle tear. When he was in the cart, he kept his foot bent.......something you tend to see in a hamstring tendon rupture or a severe hamstring muscle tear.
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The way Cole came down after the hurdle reminded me a little of Dunta Robinson's - body bent moving forward with leg at full extension. It wasn't nearly as bad because Dunta was being crushed forward, but that was my first thought.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
If Cole had a distal hamstring tendon tear, it's an uncommon type of injury..........it's a 10 week nonoperative recovery...........40% will require surgery anyway........surgical recovery whether performed acutely or after conservative failure will be ~8 weeks. If the hamstring tear was in the muscle, to be taken off by cart, it would probably be at least a Grade II tear..........minimum 3-6 weeks........with a very significant risk for re-injury upon return.
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I remember when Andre Johnson strained his hammy...he looked like he got shot on the field. This sounds worse.

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CloakNNNdagger said:
I also suspect that with Clark going out with a calf strain and not coming back, he will be out for at least a couple of weeks with a high risk of re-injury for the rest of the season.
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Do you think he'll be out for the Seattle game? I'd hate to think of Lamm going up against that Defense, but then again, if Clark is hurt that bad he probably wouldn't be much good either. They need Brown back in a hurry!
 
Insideop said:
Do you think he'll be out for the Seattle game? I'd hate to think of Lamm going up against that Defense, but then again, if Clark is hurt that bad he probably wouldn't be much good either. They need Brown back in a hurry!
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Although Clark was interviewed after the game and said it's no big thing and he'll be back after the Bye...........calf tears are worse, less predictable and higher re-injury risk than hamstrings. Unless it is a Grade I tear, I would be surprised to see him out there for Seattle. Even with a Grade I tear, if he does return, I wouldn't be surprised to see him not making it through the whole game.......or look like he should be in the game at all.
 
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Aaron Wilson reports this morning:

Texans rookie inside linebacker Dylan Cole injured his hamstring during an interception return and will undergo a magnetic resonance imaging exam Monday.

On crutches after the game, Cole expressed confidence that he will play again this season.

"I feel good, I'm not exactly sure what's going to happen, but we'll figure it out," Cole said. "I feel confident what's going to happen."
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Scooter said:
I quoted you earlier about comparing what Cole's injury looked on the field to Dunta's (before being crushed from behind over the pile), is that something that could be a reference?
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Cole seemed to have momentarily stuck his knee in hyperextension. If this occurs while running, and there is a strong opposing contraction to the hamstrings which flex the knee by the quad muscles which extend the knee, the hamstring muscle or tendons may not be able to withstand this extreme force...........and either the muscle or the tendon has to give. In normal running, when the hamstrings tighten, the quads relax.......and vice versa. When both of these opposing muscle groups contract at the same tim, one or the other gives............especially if one group is grossly strength imbalanced. As it normally stands, the normal hamstring to quadriceps strength ratio is between 50 and 80 percent, with 100 percent being equal strength, according to a 2001 “Journal of Athletic Training” article. This means the hamstrings are usually weaker than the quads to begin with. So usually having them fight each other, the quads will usually win.........a reason that you see so many more hamstring tears than quad tears.
 
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Cole seemed to have momentarily stuck his knee in hyperextension. If this occurs while running, and there is a strong opposing contraction to the hamstrings which flex the knee by the quad muscles which extend the knee, the hamstring muscle or tendons may not be able to withstand this extreme force...........and either the muscle or the tendon has to give. In normal running, when the hamstrings tighten, the quads relax.......and vice versa. When both of these opposing muscle groups contract at the same tim, one or the other gives............especially if one group is grossly strength imbalanced. As it normally stands, the normal hamstring to quadriceps strength ratio is between 50 and 80 percent, with 100 percent being equal strength, according to a 2001 “Journal of Athletic Training” article. This means the hamstrings are usually weaker than the quads to begin with. So usually having them fight each other, the quads will usually win.........a reason that you see so many more hamstring tears than quad tears.
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Do you think this is a turf issue with no give ?
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Do you think this is a turf issue with no give ?
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Lower limb injuries in general were found to be increased on turf vs natural grass in a 2010 NFL study. A more recent study including newer turfs that covered play from 2012-2015 resulted in similar findings although the researchers admitted that the statistical confidence intervals were too wide to draw many firm conclusions.
 
The Texans ar expecting KJo to return to practice tomorrow and hopefully be ready to go after the bye.

Aaron Wilson quoted KJo:
I've never had a knee injury," he said. "It ended up being a Grade 2 MCL, and I was just glad I didn't tear any ligaments.
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The mechanical anatomy of an injury apparently isn't his strong suit. I would at least think that he knows by now where his MCL is...............the place where the pain is..........:toropalm:
 
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