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We have the worst defense in NFL history, yet we're going to blame Schaub for a couple boneheaded plays?

We had the ball for 3 ****in minutes in the 1st quarter due to our defense's inability to get the hell off the field! Allowing the Eagles to convert a 3rd and 19 is absolutely pathetic? Every time the Eagles completed a pass our defender was 3-5 yards away from the WR. Shitty tackling + Shitty scheming = Worst defense ever

But let's blame Schaub? Maybe AJ and Foster too since they had a couple bad plays too?

Meh, I've been partially done with this team this year. Now I'm completely done for the season. If there aren't a few heads rolling after the season, I won't be as involved with this team next season either. I consider a lot of y'all good friends so I definitely will not be leaving the board
 
Schaub is Brad Johnson. He's the type of guy you have fill in until a real qb gets to town.

No one is asking Schaub to be perfect. You have to be good enough to score more points than the other team. You don't see Vick crying because his defense let the Texans score twice and take a lead there in the 3rd quarter. He did what he had to do. He came back out and threw perfect passes. Schaub then came back out and choked a ball into the ground 3 feet in front of Walter on third down.

It reminded me of those catchers that have a mental block and have trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher in baseball. I honestly felt bad for Schaub on that throw it was such a choke job.

Schaub does not have to be perfect. This offense is so good that he is in the enviable position that he just needs to make the easy throws.
He just chokes.

So you're going to respond to my post by re-iterating that you have no idea what you are talking about. Gotcha.

What is it about you can't rely on your offense to score 35 points a game do you not understand? Why is this such a hard concept to grasp for people? You point out ONE ****ING PLAY where Schaub skips a ball on the ground and ignore THE ENTIRE FIRST AND FOURTH ****ING QUARTERS THE DEFENSE PLAYED.

The offense is not "so good he has to make easy throws". When you are down by 10 points or more constantly that changes the complexity of the offense to dropping back back 34 to 50 times. There is no offense where you drop back that many times to pass and all of them are easy throws, that's just a retarded opinion that nobody with the IQ of Peter King or better would ever hold.

And you don't see Vick crying about his defense because HO HO HO, they can hold a team to under 25 points every once in awhile. Now go and type something really dumb again so I or one of the other great posters here can take you to task again. It's fun.
 
I am completely amazed at how you guys completely give up on our best players.

Schaub:

Our pro bowl QB who has single handedly kept us in ball games due to ability to get into rythms and connect with his WR's. He led the league last year in passing and is 6th on the all time single season passing record. His previous years were "on pace" (before injury of course) to be on par with his season last year.

He has two knocks on him. He was injury prone, which he is now completely shedding that image once he finishes his second straight year without missing a game and the other knock is his lack of a rocket arm and mobility.

I do agree that he underthrows our WRs, I think more so this year than I have ever seen in the past but give me a break. I believe we have a top 10 QB in the league. We now have a running game which is why he is not posting the inflated numbers as he did last year.

I know I know, we couldnt run the ball so thats why he had 4770 yards last year. If he wasnt worth a crap, there is no way we would have went 9-7 last year and he would have not led the league in his respective categories.

It is assenine to single out our pro bowl franchise QB seeing as how we have so many other issues.

You are just looking for things to ***** at now. I know we have completely run the "defense sucks" thread into the ground but choosing to say things like this is ridiculous.

You're probably on the Mario sucks bandwagon too huh?

This board wears me out sometimes but damnit, I must get on at least five times a day to get my Texans fix.

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rep to you kind sir, I completely agree with you.

I really think that Schaub's issue this year is:

1. The line is not keeping defenders off of him so he's scrambling more and as we all know he is not the fleetist of foot.

2. He knows that winning the game rests on his shoulders. He knows that this defense is not going to help so he MUST get a touchdown EVERY possession. That fact causes him to either force throws (causes interceptions) or throw short (to not allow the interception). So he looks like he's doing a really bad job but he's trying to lead the team to wins, the D as it is right now does not help him.

That's the way I see it.
 
rep to you kind sir, I completely agree with you.

I really think that Schaub's issue this year is:

1. The line is not keeping defenders off of him so he's scrambling more and as we all know he is not the fleetist of foot.

2. He knows that winning the game rests on his shoulders. He knows that this defense is not going to help so he MUST get a touchdown EVERY possession. That fact causes him to either force throws (causes interceptions) or throw short (to not allow the interception). So he looks like he's doing a really bad job but he's trying to lead the team to wins, the D as it is right now does not help him.

That's the way I see it.

This is what Im thinking is causing the increase in underthrown balls this year as opposed to the past.

agreed.
 
This team has a long term deficit in terms of how many high round draft picks have been spent on the secondary. We should have Revis and one of the better, young FSs on this team and we don't. That's the problem. I can't tell you we'd be on our way to the SB, but we'd be a LOT closer to making that run. I know we got KJ in the first round, but that had to be done just to replace Robinson....and we already had a problem. I hope that KJ will get better with experience. I don't know, but we can't spend two-thirds of every draft on DTs and TEs. We need a secondary.

We will continue to have this kind of D until we get one...

The problem is not that we've had too many DTs/TEs, to the lack of secondary. In fact, I think we've massively overdrafted on secondary, by the numbers. The problem has been (like you said), that we haven't spent our top round draft picks on the secondary.

Since Rick Smith came ('07-'10 drafts), we've had:
2007: secondary in rounds 4, 5; other defense rounds 1, 7; offense rounds 3, 5, 6 (plus round 2 for Schaub)
2008: secondary in rounds 3, 6; other defense rounds 4, 5; offense rounds 1, 3, 7 (plus round 2 for Schaub)
2009: secondary in rounds 4, 6, 7; other defense rounds 1, 2; offense rounds 3, 4, 5
2010: secondary in rounds 1, 6; other defense rounds 3, 4; offense rounds 2, 4, 6, 6, 7

So, we've had more picks (9) in the secondary than in the rest of the defense combined (8). (14 picks, or 16 if you count the 2 Schaub ones, were for offense).

When you look at where those picks fall, though, the average position of those picks has been in round 4.667 for the secondary, round 3.375 for the rest of the defense, and round 4.42 for the offese (4.125 if you count the Schaub picks).

So, there has actually been a lot more drafting of secondary than I'd have guessed, but they haven't picked them very high.
 
Is Jamarcus Russell starting somewhere?
I don't think there's a nickel's worth of difference between Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski and Matt Schaub though.

Ok ok I'll bite.

Campbell: 7 starts; 8 games. 1,322 yards - 7 TDs - 6 INTs. 75.8 QB Rating
Gradkowski: 4 starts; 6 games. 1,059 yards - 5 TDs - 6 INTs. 66.3 QB Rating
Schaub: 12 starts; 12 games. 3,089 yards - 17 TDs - 8 INTs. 93.2 QB Rating

Campbell/Gradkoski (combined): 2,381 yards - 12 TDs - 12 INTs

Schaub is having a pretty poor year by all of our standards.... but to say he's not any better than Campbell, Gradkowski... or that he's a bottom 5 QB in this league like I've read on here is asinine. I truly hope your emotions have gotten the best of you because of our subpar season and that 90% of your posts are not REALLY your true thoughts.
 

I think this may be some part of the most elaborate scheme in history to steal a QB.

Maybe he is a Titan fan trying to implant the fact that Schaub sucks so we storm McNairs office and demand him to be released......therefore, Bud Adams can go and sign him.

Pretty far fetched I know, but there is no way anyone who knows anything about football let alone the Houston Texans can really feel this way.

This guy (panama) is wearin me out.

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It's called an analogy.

The situations are identical, yet on different levels.

You have a fanbase that thinks you have bigger problems. You have a quarterback that knows how to make those mistakes at the critical points of the game that will cause you to lose.

I am sure that Texans Talk had some David Carr supporters too at the time.
I just hope that it doesn't take that long to figure out that Schaub doesn't have the goods
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If you honestly think that you are a fool. David Carr NEVER led the league in passing. Schaub consistently has had more tds than Ints since becoming a starter. Carr for a career is 65 tds 71 INts. Schaub is 76 tds 48 ints. Schaub has a career passing rating of 91+ Carr has a career passer rating of 74.9.

The only thing Carr leads Schaub in is staying healthy and even that is something Schaub is doing better in now.

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Schaub is much better than Carr.

That said, he is not an elite QB. Not even close.

He is good enough to win with if you field a defense that takes pressure off of him. The defense doesn't have to be tops in the leauge, but a defense that atleast consistenly caused turnovers and not giving up TD's left and right would help out a lot.
 
Schaub is much better than Carr.

That said, he is not an elite QB. Not even close.

He is good enough to win with if you field a defense that takes pressure off of him. The defense doesn't have to be tops in the leauge, but a defense that atleast consistenly caused turnovers and not giving up TD's left and right would help out a lot.

Where does elite stop then? top 5...top 10? If you stop at 5 as being elite, then you leave out guys like Rothlisberger & Ryan & frankly you can't do that with rothlisberger having 2 rings already. If you stop at 10, then Schaub is right there.

off the top of my head there are only 8 qb's that are clearly better than him.

Manning
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Rodgers
Rothlisberger
Ryan
& if you are impressed with arm strength, Flacco.

Every other qb in this league, it's a debate & one that schaub is in.
 
Where does elite stop then? top 5...top 10? If you stop at 5 as being elite, then you leave out guys like Rothlisberger & Ryan & frankly you can't do that with rothlisberger having 2 rings already. If you stop at 10, then Schaub is right there.

off the top of my head there are only 8 qb's that are clearly better than him.

Manning
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Rodgers
Rothlisberger
Ryan
& if you are impressed with arm strength, Flacco.

Every other qb in this league, it's a debate & one that schaub is in.

Right now, i would take freeman,sanchez,eli,vick,and romo over schaub.
 
I think Schaub is good enough to take the team to the next level. I'd fix a lot of other things before I would the QB.
 
Right now, i would take freeman,sanchez,eli,vick,and romo over schaub.


Vick & Freeman - wait & see. One is young & we really don't know how he will progress. & with Vick, we still don't know what he can do as this is the 1st time he's shown that he can be a good pocket passer. In addition to this, Schaub essentially played him to a draw last night. Its just that Vick's game is "pretty" & schaub's isn't.

Sanchez, like schaub at times, isn't consistent & has the tendency to turn it over in critical situations - (see our game)

Eli & Romo are turnover machines & have just as much trouble staying consistent as schaub does at times.

Not saying that i wouldn't take these guys over schaub, but i think a successful case can be made for him over any of these guys.

For the few plays schaub didn't make last night, he made more than his fair share when he had pressure on him. He's solid, he just has a weak arm.
 
Are we still talking about "Schaub Sucks"?

Really, get rid of Schaub because we consistently lose after putting up 30 points.

SCHAUB IS NOT THE PROBLEM, GO SEE FRANK BUSH AND HIS EXCUSE FOR A DEFENSE!!!

If Schaub wasn't always playing from behind he'd probably have fewer mistakes by far.

I'm glad some of you aren't the GM, because you'd cut a Pro Bowl QB, to draft somebody with no experience and leave the 32 ranked defense un touched.

Unbelieveable......

I try not to critcize people points of veiw on this board, but really. This is like kicking your dog because it rained outside.................


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So you're going to respond to my post by re-iterating that you have no idea what you are talking about. Gotcha.

What is it about you can't rely on your offense to score 35 points a game do you not understand? Why is this such a hard concept to grasp for people? You point out ONE ****ING PLAY where Schaub skips a ball on the ground and ignore THE ENTIRE FIRST AND FOURTH ****ING QUARTERS THE DEFENSE PLAYED.

The offense is not "so good he has to make easy throws". When you are down by 10 points or more constantly that changes the complexity of the offense to dropping back back 34 to 50 times. There is no offense where you drop back that many times to pass and all of them are easy throws, that's just a retarded opinion that nobody with the IQ of Peter King or better would ever hold.

And you don't see Vick crying about his defense because HO HO HO, they can hold a team to under 25 points every once in awhile. Now go and type something really dumb again so I or one of the other great posters here can take you to task again. It's fun.


I swear it's like he just finds more and more ways to prove how dumb he is....
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If the team can't see that Schaub is a loser by now then they deserve what they get. They can cut him loose now and get started with the rebuild or they can give him 4 more years and wallow in mediocrity for those four years then start the rebuild.

I cannot think of a single quarterback out there that I wouldn't rather have.

To have the talent he has around him and to still be 10th in the league in ppg.

The team wins in spite of him, not because of him.
Here... let me help you out then.

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Schaub is not even close to being the problem with this team. Yeah, not one of his better nights, but still.

This team is where it is because of horrid defense, not offensive problems.
 
Where does elite stop then? top 5...top 10? If you stop at 5 as being elite, then you leave out guys like Rothlisberger & Ryan & frankly you can't do that with rothlisberger having 2 rings already. If you stop at 10, then Schaub is right there.

off the top of my head there are only 8 qb's that are clearly better than him.

Manning
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Rodgers
Rothlisberger
Ryan
& if you are impressed with arm strength, Flacco.

Every other qb in this league, it's a debate & one that schaub is in.

I didn't say anything about numbers...I don't look at it as top anything...

There are three guys I consider elite right now. Rivers, Brady, Manning. IMO, everyone after them I would consider very good, or upper echelon.
 
Schaub is not even close to being the problem with this team. Yeah, not one of his better nights, but still.

This team is where it is because of horrid defense, not offensive problems.

Exactly. Schaub is not the problem. Our frigging defense is the problem.

Schaub might not be the greatest QB on the planet, and he isn't, but the problem with this team is the friggin defense. Period.
 
All you have to do is LOOK at the guy- his eyes, his face, he's not in it. He's not a leader or a motivator, and those are two inherent qualities of a great QB. NEXT!!! Matt would be a good backup.


Schaub has had the traits of a loser since the day he got here.
He just has absolutely no traits that a winner has.

He folds up under pressure. He never rises to the occasion. He just simply is not very good, bless his heart. He tries.....
He just is not good.
 
Schaub has had the traits of a loser since the day he got here.
He just has absolutely no traits that a winner has.

He folds up under pressure. He never rises to the occasion. He just simply is not very good, bless his heart. He tries.....
He just is not good.

Not really he leads us on the game winning drive several times only to be let down by the Defense. I changed my opinion on this since last night because if you read one of my earlier posts id did blame the offense but really for the most part they have put up the points when they were needed. Yes schaub had one of his worst games ever yesterday but really this team has one huge glaring problem and that is our defense. I mean take the Jets game he scores with 53 seconds left in the game and puts us up by 4. then the defense cant keep the Jets out of the end zone for under a minute? And this is schaub's fault? Jacksonville same deal, chargers #80 had one of his rare let downs.

but go back through the season and watch how many times he has led the team down the field for a game winning drive, then count the number of times the defense did he impossible and let the other team score with less than no time left. I would even say that it takes pressure for him to play to his ability level. Now he does lack a little arm strength from what I have seen this year... yes.... but he makes good decisions and is able to put the ball where it needs to be most of the time.

He will never be Manning but he is good and not the problem with our team. I blame kubiak and bush they are the sole reason our team is where it is today. U can't really even blame Khareem Jackson or the secondary I mean he is a rookie and has no one to mentor him in how the game is played on the pro level.
Back to schaub though I think his shoulder is hurt ... he has had a noticeable drop in arm strength since last year so something might be wrong there..
 
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All you have to do is LOOK at the guy- his eyes, his face, he's not in it. He's not a leader or a motivator, and those are two inherent qualities of a great QB. NEXT!!! Matt would be a good backup.

You and Panama must still be butt hurt about 06
 
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All you have to do is LOOK at the guy- his eyes, his face, he's not in it. He's not a leader or a motivator, and those are two inherent qualities of a great QB. NEXT!!! Matt would be a good backup.

Are u guys forgetting that he led the league in yards per pass total yards and one other category last year. And this was done WITHOUT a run game so people knew we would be passing and he still picked apart defenses. He hasn't put up those numbers this year but he hasn't needed to (we have the best run game in the NFL). WHen it counts he scores ... he did it yesterday only to be let down yet again by the Defense and then he had a rare drive that ended in a turnover. He creates plays with movement in and out of the pocket ... threads the needle on passes that most QB's couldn't dream of making (occasionally).... he had a bad night last night and still played better than most....
 
Are u guys forgetting that he led the league in yards per pass total yards and one other category last year. And this was done WITHOUT a run game so people knew we would be passing and he still picked apart defenses. He hasn't put up those numbers this year but he hasn't needed to (we have the best run game in the NFL). WHen it counts he scores ... he did it yesterday only to be let down yet again by the Defense and then he had a rare drive that ended in a turnover. He creates plays with movement in and out of the pocket ... threads the needle on passes that most QB's couldn't dream of making .... he had a bad night last night and still played better than most....

Paragraphs would make your posts a lot easier to read.
 
Holy crap, I think I'll take another week break from the mb. It's okay to be frustrated, we all are, but how about some perspective.

Yes, yes, let's run Schaub out of town, that'll fix the fact we need 3 cornerbacks, a free safety, and a new coaching staff.

Didn't even Trent Dilfer win a Superbowl? :um:

Matt Schaub is light years better than that guy and a good QB.
 
How was last night a terrible game? He threw for millions of yards, under lots of heat, and gave us a chance to win. He completed 61% of his passes and had an average of 9 YPA. And came back after getting smoked multiple times. He fed Andre the Giant, connected with 8 different receivers. Yes, it would've been nice if he didn't throw a pick and had a fumble, but, it also would've been nice if we could've stopped a 3rd and 19.

Schaub is not an elite QB, but you're going to be chasing one of those for a long time if you run every decent QB out of town because he's not throwing for 4 gazillion yards a season.
 
Schaub is much better than Carr.

That said, he is not an elite QB. Not even close.

He is good enough to win with if you field a defense that takes pressure off of him. The defense doesn't have to be tops in the leauge, but a defense that atleast consistenly caused turnovers and not giving up TD's left and right would help out a lot.

I would even take a defense that held the other team to field goals. I still say put 11 in the box for the rest of the season maybe one of the other team's receivers might trip and fall on the way to the endzone ore something. Got about as good a chance of that happening as them actually getting a stop
 
Constantly killing drives with his stupid mistakes while throwing for 18 touchdowns and 9 interceptions and 3000+ yards. This line of thinking is ridiculous and the fact that you want to replace him with himself (Sorry, Kolb's arm might be better in your head, but it has yet to proven consistently on the field since KEVIN KOLB CAN'T KEEP A STARTERS JOB). People talk about ball protection, Kolb certainly doesn't do that. You talk about "clutchness" and "being a winner" and Kolb is no more of a winner or is no more clutchy than Schaub is. If we are going to get rid of our QB it better be for an upgrade and not a ****ing lateral move.

Here's an idea from the same train of logic: Lets fire Frank Bush and hire Richard Smith as a DC. This can't go wrong can it?:kubepalm:

Has Kevin Kolb even got a fair shake to start? He lost his job for 2 reasons, injury and Andy Reid loving running QBs. Kid hasn't even got a fair chance to remain a starter in the league. He has had a handful of game sand has done fairly well so this line of thinking isn't ridiculous as you so eloquently stated, it is just upgrading to a younger product of what you have. If you had a TV that you liked and it was pretty good then died after 5 years, wouldn't you want the same model but newer and upgraded? no different in what I was purposing...

I'll backtrack a bit and say I do like Schaub, I just cannot stand the stupid mistakes and the under thrown balls and skipping that kill drives. Nothing wrong with replacing him with a b younger version with a better arm. I haven't seen enough of Kolb, other than in college, to say he makes the same stupid mistakes Schaub seems to consistently make...

and your stupid comment about Frank Bush and Richard Smith isn't even in the same f'ing ballpark. Trading crappy for *hitty isn't what I was going for. Trading serviceable for serviceable who is younger and has a better arm is more the path, but nice try...
 
Has Kevin Kolb even got a fair shake to start? He lost his job for 2 reasons, injury and Andy Reid loving running QBs. Kid hasn't even got a fair chance to remain a starter in the league. He has had a handful of game sand has done fairly well so this line of thinking isn't ridiculous as you so eloquently stated, it is just upgrading to a younger product of what you have. If you had a TV that you liked and it was pretty good then died after 5 years, wouldn't you want the same model but newer and upgraded? no different in what I was purposing...

I'll backtrack a bit and say I do like Schaub, I just cannot stand the stupid mistakes and the under thrown balls and skipping that kill drives. Nothing wrong with replacing him with a b younger version with a better arm. I haven't seen enough of Kolb, other than in college, to say he makes the same stupid mistakes Schaub seems to consistently make...

and your stupid comment about Frank Bush and Richard Smith isn't even in the same f'ing ballpark. Trading crappy for *hitty isn't what I was going for. Trading serviceable for serviceable who is younger and has a better arm is more the path, but nice try...

Hmmm, gets injured, been in the league as a backup for a few years, hasn't really shown much. Okay, so he's not Matt Schaub then who is he? Sorry, but Matt Schaub is a better version of Kolb because he can actually hold down a starters job until proven otherwise. And yes, the analogy totally applies in reference to Smith = Bush Kolb = Schaub with one caveat, we already know that Schaub can do perfectly fine as a starter on an NFL team and Kolb is a complete toss-up.

Also, when the hell did we start comparing QB's to tv's? Has Schaub died on us or something? No? What do you mean he's on pace for 2:1 TD's:INT's? Over 3000 yards passing again? Mid 60's completion percentage? Yeah, sure sounds broken to me, we should totally do a trade in.

Look, if we had a guy who was actively ****ing up our games week in and week out, sure I'd be totally on board with getting rid of Matt. But we don't, and he's not. You guys are missing the gigantic elephant in the room which almost all of our offseason moves should be about upgrading, and that's the goddamned defense. I'm tired of listening to people who are supposed perfectionists completely ignore a historically bad defense and point to a ****ing QB who for all intents and purposes is having another fine year, even if he is playing from behind in 9/10ths of the games on the schedule.

Finally, if Kolb is in the league for 4 years, and has "never gotten his fair shake" then that probably means he sucks. How does he suck? I don't know, decision making, accuracy, injuries, whatever. At least with Schaub when we traded for him he didn't have this unique history of sitting out games due to injury, we got to experience that.

Again, talking about replacing Schaub is just misplaced anger that should be directed at the mother****ing coaching staff and the asshole personnel on the defense. Matt Schaub is not the ****ing problem here, and neither is most of the offense except for Jones, Walter and OD all falling off a cliff. But even with those listed woes Schaub is still running the offense, doing it pretty efficiently, oh and he has to contend with Frank Bush's Pee-Wee defense playing the opposite side of the ball.

Thankfully enough, we aren't getting rid of Schaub this offseason, and we damn sure aren't trading him for Kevin ****ing Kolb. So that is just a fantasy that's going to live in your, and pretty much yours alone, head. My fantasies have more to do with Chasey Laine, a bottle of uppers, and glow in the dark body paint, but hey, to each their own.
 
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Gosh Bong! Don't beat around the bush. Tell us how you really feel about the absurd notion that Schaub is the problem!
 
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You're right. Given your and my longtime history on TT, we have seen dumber threads. That said this is certainly worthy of HOF consideration.

Hello, I am 97roc, and I am a rookie. I am just wondering, what thread would be considered the dumbest thread - evah?
 
Hello, I am 97roc, and I am a rookie. I am just wondering, what thread would be considered the dumbest thread - evah?

I think there's a couple of Reggie Bush > Mario Williams threads that got started like this past off-season or something ridiculous like that.

I'm sure there are also a few threads dedicated to David Carr that have some hilarious posts in them.

Gosh Bong! Don't beat around the bush. Tell us how you really feel about the absurd notion that Schaub is the problem!

The amount of *'s in the post is directly proportional to how awesome it is.
 
Hello, I am 97roc, and I am a rookie. I am just wondering, what thread would be considered the dumbest thread - evah?

I have been here since the start. Some might say since the start of time, but I digress. This thread is epic in it's utter stupidity. Might others be worse ....... well, that's a bit like art, it's in the eye of the beholder, but this is an epic failure of coherent thought.
 
aaaaa.... SCHAUB IS NOT THE PROBLEM HERE....THE JAGUARS ARE LEADING THE DIVISION WITH DAVID ****ING GARRARD!


END OF THREAD.


You can win with a QB the caliber of Matt Schaub.....you can't win with a defense as bad as ours and a QB the caliber of Matt Schaub.
 
aaaaa.... SCHAUB IS NOT THE PROBLEM HERE....THE JAGUARS ARE LEADING THE DIVISION WITH DAVID ****ING GARRARD!


END OF THREAD.


You can win with a QB the caliber of Matt Schaub.....you can't win with a defense as bad as ours and a QB the caliber of Matt Schaub.
I cannot believe there are ten pages discussing a non-issue.

The defense's inability to hold a lead once the offense gives them one is the problem here. Unless these trolls - and they HAVE to be trolls to ignore the obvious - are that lacking in observational ability or football knowledge.

Let's review shall we...
San Diego - Schaub and the offense had the Texans up 23-14 before the defense gave up 15 2nd half points to give up the lead. He was marching the team to a possible go-ahead score when A.J., uncharacteristically, let one bounce off his hands into the waiting arms of the SD safety. Did I mention he put up these points on the league's best defense?

Jaguars - Matched the Jag offense point for point to a 24-all 4th qtr tie only to watch the d give up the losing TD with 8 seconds left.

Jets - Schaub and the offense put up 20 4th qtr points (against a Rex Ryan defense who knew we had to throw) to bring us back from being down 23-7 to grab the lead. Only to watch our d give up the losing TD with 45 seconds left.

Eagles - Schaub and the offense brought the team back from 20-3 down to take the lead 24-20. The defense couldn't stop Vick from putting up 14 straight 4th qtr pts and hold that lead.

Yeah... Schaub is definitely the problem here. He has shown no ability to bring the team back from behind.
NOT!

yeah, these folks HAVE to be trolls, posting this ridiculousness to get our goat.

:mariopalm:
...okay, now End of Thread.
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and lets not forget that our "slow starting" offense wouldn't look nearly that bad if the defense wasn't allowing the opponents points on nearly every drive.
 
i just dont see it with this guy, above average but not elite. there probably 22 teams in this league that will take him but 10 that have better, we can't beat the better
 
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