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Cal isn't saying that...........He just got the TV check.F this team. How long will you hold on to promises? This organization is bull shitz.
Does it matter who they pick at this point?Did we pick a HC and Im unaware? If so I may quit too.
To buy time before I cut and simply dont give a donut anymore.... yes.Does it matter who they pick at this point?
Did I hear that some college team hired BOB as Off Coor?aw, you will be back September.
Supposed to be some team from some small town in Alabama..Did I hear that some college team hired BOB as Off Coor?
Very small town 100KSupposed to be some team from some small town in Alabama..
We should have traded head coaches.Very small town 100K
To me, it's less about him and more about the current ownership. You work your entire existence trying to land a top-tier QB and when you finally do you screw up the relationship after 4 seasons. Then you double down with a guy you have barely known and continue to alienate your stars over. It's crazy to me and shows a lack of winning spirit. You chose a religious culture above the players and winning. I can not accept that.As much as I love DW4 as a player, I could never turn my back on the Texans. 1 guy doesn’t make the team and with us getting a seemingly capable GM in Caserio, If he truly wants out, then that means we’ve got a bevy of picks and players on their way here to be able to rebuild this team much faster than we originally thought WITH him. And that can only mean good things for this team’s future..
But man would it hurt to lose him.
Eh, Watson’s a great talent, but as great as he is, 1, his talent can be taken away from him or diminished in a heartbeat with 1 bad hit. Plus you saw..... we went 4-12 with him having the best season of his career. And no matter what he thinks, Nuk wasn’t going to help that record be much better. I get it from his standpoint, you wanna be put in a situation to be able to compete, but trying to strong arm your owner isn’t the way to go about that.To me, it's less about him and more about the current ownership. You work your entire existence trying to land a top-tier QB and when you finally do you screw up the relationship after 4 seasons. Then you double down with a guy you have barely known and continue to alienate your stars over. It's crazy to me and shows a lack of winning spirit. You chose a religious culture above the players and winning. I can not accept that.
As the team leader, Watson is representing the other players.Team is bigger than any one player
They owe the fans a competitive product. Not a "culture".The Texans don’t owe any player anything
Whose to say that culture isn’t going to be key to a competitive product in the future?As the team leader, Watson is representing the other players.
They owe the fans a competitive product. Not a "culture".
Representing players who JJ himself said didn’t care and didn’t give their best and most are way overpaid and should be cut.As the team leader, Watson is representing the other players.
They owe the fans a competitive product. Not a "culture".
Is it too late to give them Easterbaby?Did I hear that some college team hired BOB as Off Coor?
How's that been working so far?Whose to say that culture isn’t going to be key to a competitive product in the future?
This is what "trying" looks like? JJ seems to be describing the Texans decision makers. They don't care about winning, they aren't giving their best, and are most definitly overpaid.As for the fans they seem to be trying to build a competitive product.
How's that been working so far?
This is what "trying" looks like? JJ seems to be describing the Texans decision makers. They don't care about winning, they aren't giving their best, and are most definitly overpaid.
Pay me that much I’ll take a bus to Jacksonville. Hell I’ve taken a bus to cities way worse than Jacksonville just in the hope of getting a job.Remember when Watson rode a bus to Jacksonville to play a game?
Yeah, that's who people are calling a spoiled brat
Did you even hear what JJ said? He was directly talking about and to players.How's that been working so far?
This is what "trying" looks like? JJ seems to be describing the Texans decision makers. They don't care about winning, they aren't giving their best, and are most definitly overpaid.
He’s far from a spoiled brat if you know his life story but someone has his ear. HE signed the extension. Why? You’re telling me it took you this long to see there’s an issue in the building??? BS.Remember when Watson rode a bus to Jacksonville to play a game?
Yeah, that's who people are calling a spoiled brat
I'm saying one could say the exact same things about the Texans "brain trust".Did you even hear what JJ said? He was directly talking about and to players.
A lot of people have his ear. All you have to do is check his Twitter acct. I think the MAIN people who have his ear though are AJ and Nuk.He’s far from a spoiled brat if you know his life story but someone has his ear. HE signed the extension. Why? You’re telling me it took you this long to see there’s an issue in the building??? BS.
You’re right. I’ll still be a fan deep down inside, but no more buying tickets (season or singles) or merchandise. Now, if Caserio is the GM the team needed and builds a good team I’m sure I’ll come around.As much as I love DW4 as a player, I could never turn my back on the Texans. 1 guy doesn’t make the team and with us getting a seemingly capable GM in Caserio, If he truly wants out, then that means we’ve got a bevy of picks and players on their way here to be able to rebuild this team much faster than we originally thought WITH him. And that can only mean good things for this team’s future..
But man would it hurt to lose him.
Simple. His focus was the contract. His coach was his GM. Had to be a good soldier.He’s far from a spoiled brat if you know his life story but someone has his ear. HE signed the extension. Why? You’re telling me it took you this long to see there’s an issue in the building??? BS.
True they could but the conversation, at least from my end, was about what JJ said recently.I'm saying one could say the exact same things about the Texans "brain trust".
Watt did say that in general regarding some players on the team. Not all of them. Clearly, he doesn't feel that way about Watson. And Watson doesn't feel that way about all of his teammates.True they could but the conversation, at least from my end, was about what JJ said recently.
Yeah well, if you were dumb enough to sleep with that chick with no condom and you caught something, you’ve got no one to blame but yourself. And in that regard, DW4 has no one to blame but himself. He signed his contract having a pretty good idea about how the FO was operating. He HAD to know that BoB was not likely to survive a bad season. Dude came into the season on the hot seat....& after the Nuk trade, that seat was white hot.Simple
Simple. His focus was the contract. His coach was his GM. Had to be a good soldier.
How good would you be for that contract?
And after the contract? Its like waking up with the chick after the tequila wore off.
He could have gotten a similar contract from most any other team. If his agent had let it out that Watson wanted a new city and it was just a matter of dollars then teams would have been throwing money at him.Simple
Simple. His focus was the contract. His coach was his GM. Had to be a good soldier.
How good would you be for that contract?
And after the contract? Its like waking up with the chick after the tequila wore off.
The guy responsible for 90% of that is gone. But clearly Watt feels like the purge didn’t go far enough. But just b/c he feels like that doesn’t mean that he’s correct in his assertion.Watt did say that in general regarding some players on the team. Not all of them. Clearly, he doesn't feel that way about Watson. And Watson doesn't feel that way about all of his teammates.
But, isn't the team "culture" somewhat to blame? The lying. The backstabbing. Looking over your shoulder. Trading away their best player. Giving away very questionable contracts. Turning their backs on players that had contributed to winning. Why bust your arse when manangement doesn't put winning first and foremost? The "culture" led to the players attitude.
I agree, partly it depends on if you think Cal and the Texans are trying to change the culture. Me I think they are by firing OB and bringing in a real GM. People keep harping on Caserio doing it “the patriot way” but the patriot way puts winning before everything else so seems to me that is what people want.Watt did say that in general regarding some players on the team. Not all of them. Clearly, he doesn't feel that way about Watson. And Watson doesn't feel that way about all of his teammates.
But, isn't the team "culture" somewhat to blame? The lying. The backstabbing. Looking over your shoulder. Trading away their best player. Giving away very questionable contracts. Turning their backs on players that had contributed to winning. Why bust your arse when manangement doesn't put winning first and foremost? The "culture" led to the players attitude.
Doesn't mean he's incorrect, either.But just b/c he feels like that doesn’t mean that he’s correct in his assertion.
The corporate culture? Boardroom decision making? Texan Worthy? Is this what Cal is trying to change?I agree, partly it depends on if you think Cal and the Texans are trying to change the culture.
This is why I want to see the HC hiring before calling it a huge mistake.I agree, partly it depends on if you think Cal and the Texans are trying to change the culture. Me I think they are by firing OB and bringing in a real GM. People keep harping on Caserio doing it “the patriot way” but the patriot way puts winning before everything else so seems to me that is what people want.
I think everyone on this board is "ok" with Caserio.I agree, partly it depends on if you think Cal and the Texans are trying to change the culture. Me I think they are by firing OB and bringing in a real GM. People keep harping on Caserio doing it “the patriot way” but the patriot way puts winning before everything else so seems to me that is what people want.
No you don't quit. You'll be back. Misery loves company. : )F this team. How long will you hold on to promises? This organization is bull shitz.
Watson, as good as he is, cannot be HC, GM, Personnel director, etc,.They owe the fans a competitive product. Not a "culture".
I realized this about the McNair's in 2010 and was called all kinds of things.To me, it's less about him and more about the current ownership. You work your entire existence trying to land a top-tier QB and when you finally do you screw up the relationship after 4 seasons. Then you double down with a guy you have barely known and continue to alienate your stars over. It's crazy to me and shows a lack of winning spirit. You chose a religious culture above the players and winning. I can not accept that.
It really isn't.Eh, Watson’s a great talent, but as great as he is, 1, his talent can be taken away from him or diminished in a heartbeat with 1 bad hit. Plus you saw..... we went 4-12 with him having the best season of his career. And no matter what he thinks, Nuk wasn’t going to help that record be much better. I get it from his standpoint, you wanna be put in a situation to be able to compete, but trying to strong arm your owner isn’t the way to go about that.
From Cal’s standpoint, all you can try to do is convey that you do value his opinion but you have to be strong enough to not let 1 guy control you like a puppet. It really is a difficult position to be in from his standpoint.
Most of these player wont or shouldn't be here next yr anyways.As the team leader, Watson is representing the other players.
They owe the fans a competitive product. Not a "culture".