ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Man, you even admitted his oline coach was trash.
Yeah he hasn't won anything. But we all see what we see.
OB was the worst thing to happen to him.
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Yeah he hasn't won anything. But we all see what we see.
OB was the worst thing to happen to him.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Its all about the qb. No one cares about them.
Cam was going no where
Yeah that was caserio answer to no Brady. Cam
Think about going from TB12 to Cam, the GOAT to nothing.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
For what it's worth.
I like jabbing with with steelbtexan. Can't stand him but appreciate him.
You guys know how I feel. We all got that person on the MB
I like jabbing with with steelbtexan. Can't stand him but appreciate him.
You guys know how I feel. We all got that person on the MB
What does this have to do with DW4 not being allowed to make mgmt decisions.
1st yr and they waited until the last moment hoping Brady would re-sign in Foxboro. Plus everything was different with this yr and the Covid. You could make a case that Covid cost the Texans most of those close losses.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
He didn't want decisions. He wanted input. And his input was avoided. I mean we talking interviews on zoom.
Our kids are learning ABCs on zoom.
Could Cal and Easterby not zoom for a few minutes?
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Yawn, way to run a top organization. Blame covid. Meanwhile those other top notch organizations still playin.
cameronkrazie86
Rookie
And they were the ones asking him for input then chose to ignore it. They didn't even pretend to consider it. If you're not going to consider his input or opinion, don't ask him for it. They were the ones who blurred management/employee lines, not the other way around.
What input did he provide for the GM position did they not pretend to consider?
100% agree with this.
If it weren't for covid fans would show them.
When did the Texans offer Watson input on the GM hire?
It has more to do with holding out hope until the last minute Brady would re-sign.
The Opt outs, Cam getting and spreading the Covid around the team surely didn't help the cause.
How do you know they didn't consider DW4's input? Maybe they did a background check on Bienemy before requesting an interview (A typical practice) and didn't like the report they got back so interviewing him was a waste of time for both parties.
When they put him on the search committee.
I big screwup by Cal.
Hopefully Cal learns something from this.
I think they beat the Packers next week.
It's not like Brady doesn't play well in the cold weather.
1TexanFan
Noob
DW4 is a paid employee, he probably making more a year than the owners. But that does not give him the right to make the decisions above the quarterback level. I am tired of all of these prima-donnas high jacking the entire team because they are not happy with their contract that they signed or the team making decisions that they don't agree with.
Watson is one of the most selfish players on this team because of this. He is more concerned about his statics than winning games. He would rather take a sack with negative yards and make his offensive line look bad, then drill the ball into the ground and make his statics look bad.
He would rather take a touchback and give up 2 points, than mess up his statics. A lot of quarterbacks never give up a touchback in their career, he gave up one in two consecutive weeks. He is looking for a homerun on every play or something to go on the highlight reel.
He is not the only selfish one on the team, JJ Watt would rather go for sacks and no end containment. Mercilus looks like he just quit the team and doing walk thru for that big ole check. A lot on defense only want to bump tackle and the running backs will go down if they are touched. Their is some major selfish players here and I do not see any team players. I am not sure who on this team is the cancer, I think it might be Watson and Easterby. Get rid of both of them.
Watson is one of the most selfish players on this team because of this. He is more concerned about his statics than winning games. He would rather take a sack with negative yards and make his offensive line look bad, then drill the ball into the ground and make his statics look bad.
He would rather take a touchback and give up 2 points, than mess up his statics. A lot of quarterbacks never give up a touchback in their career, he gave up one in two consecutive weeks. He is looking for a homerun on every play or something to go on the highlight reel.
He is not the only selfish one on the team, JJ Watt would rather go for sacks and no end containment. Mercilus looks like he just quit the team and doing walk thru for that big ole check. A lot on defense only want to bump tackle and the running backs will go down if they are touched. Their is some major selfish players here and I do not see any team players. I am not sure who on this team is the cancer, I think it might be Watson and Easterby. Get rid of both of them.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
At this point I would be fine with a scorched earth move where the only player left standing is Howard, I just like the kid ever since I saw the video of his reaction to being drafted, and the only front office left is Caserio and Cal.
Liked for the last sentence.
TripleTap
Dead Wood
Let Watson go and good luck to him. Let Watt go and double good luck to him. Get a decent, experienced, been around, known HC with a good record. Get rid of everyone else who might bring a Rd1,2,3 draft pick. Make a feast of this years draft and look for a better future.
Keeping Watson will only prolong the 4 & 12 agony. May he prosper in Miami/NY/SF.
Build a team we can finally care about.
Keeping Watson will only prolong the 4 & 12 agony. May he prosper in Miami/NY/SF.
Build a team we can finally care about.
Decim8
Veteran
I dont know about watson being the most selfish in the team, being the team leader that he is I believe he's voicing the teams frustration towards easterby for reasons we can only guess (I sure like to find out). The fact that AJ of all ppl came out attacking easterby says alot. Fire easterby and I think we be good
And for the part where watson cares only for stats? Lol Ahhhh noooo I don't think so
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I get what you are saying but frankly, who cares what this team is frustrated about. WRs and TEs that can't catch a ball that hits them dead in the chest, a center that screws up a game deciding snap, overpaid defense players that couldn't stop someone in a flag football game, RBs that could get more yards if they just fell forward holding the ball out and I could keep going. Even JJ called them out for not caring and phoning it in. So again I ask who cares what this bunch of overpaid bench warmers want, they clearly don't care about the team enough to give it their best so why should the front office care about them enough to consider their thoughts and feelings?
Wolfiegrrl
Fan of NFC Seahawks & AFC Texans
I quit awhile ago. I kept my eye on them this year, hoping **** would turn around. I thought by them firing O'Brian they were turning the corner. I didn't realize it was a damned circle.
I won't be giving any more time or effort into the Texans. Spending the last 18 years rooting for a business that refuses to be a football team, has drained my life away. For several reasons I moved on from the Texans.
1. I don't live in Texas for a reason. Call me a Liberal Snowflake or whatever; but I believe equality for everyone is a real thing. This front office and their "Don't let the inmates run the prison" attitude doesn't sit well with me. Nor did it sit well when good ol' Daddy McNair donated money to the Harris County Anti-Trans bathroom bill. Seriously, I can't tolerate that kind of mentality.
2. The McNairs are only here to make money, not actually put a good product on the field. They were the first NFL team to put their freaking logo on anything.
3. I can't for the life of me understand why any player would want to be here beyond a rookie contract. Look at their history. Andre Johnson - Wasted, Arian Foster - Wasted, Matt Schaub - Broken, JJ Watt - Wasted, DeAndre Hopkins - Traded for a broken RB with a bigger contract, and now the DeShaun Watson fiasco. All of that lies solely at the feet of the McNairs. Final say and sign off comes from them. These ******* horse traders should have stayed in their ******* lane.
I have some Texans gear that I'll be getting rid of: couple of hats, jerseys, mini helmet, and some other things. Can't decide if I'll just donate it or try to make a couple of bucks back on it.
Have a nice life folks. I need to go find some Seattle Seahawks gear now.
I won't be giving any more time or effort into the Texans. Spending the last 18 years rooting for a business that refuses to be a football team, has drained my life away. For several reasons I moved on from the Texans.
1. I don't live in Texas for a reason. Call me a Liberal Snowflake or whatever; but I believe equality for everyone is a real thing. This front office and their "Don't let the inmates run the prison" attitude doesn't sit well with me. Nor did it sit well when good ol' Daddy McNair donated money to the Harris County Anti-Trans bathroom bill. Seriously, I can't tolerate that kind of mentality.
2. The McNairs are only here to make money, not actually put a good product on the field. They were the first NFL team to put their freaking logo on anything.
3. I can't for the life of me understand why any player would want to be here beyond a rookie contract. Look at their history. Andre Johnson - Wasted, Arian Foster - Wasted, Matt Schaub - Broken, JJ Watt - Wasted, DeAndre Hopkins - Traded for a broken RB with a bigger contract, and now the DeShaun Watson fiasco. All of that lies solely at the feet of the McNairs. Final say and sign off comes from them. These ******* horse traders should have stayed in their ******* lane.
I have some Texans gear that I'll be getting rid of: couple of hats, jerseys, mini helmet, and some other things. Can't decide if I'll just donate it or try to make a couple of bucks back on it.
Have a nice life folks. I need to go find some Seattle Seahawks gear now.
Texian
Hall of Fame
So a slightly used Houston Texans letter jacket as a peace offering is totally out of the question?
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beerlover
Hall of Fame
Been out since Hopkins trade. Where is accountability for that, beyond stupid trade, of DeAndre Hopkins I’m sure it extends beyond O’Brian. Major driving force had to be Easterby, who felt morally compelled to expel Hopkins for his moral and Religious beliefs. Until he himself who cast the first stone is gone I’m out on Cal McNair’s franchise.
That is easy to believe, but I truly do not believe that was the case. The Patriot way is to work with those types find a way for everyone to be included & work towards the same goal. Not to get rid of said players, especially not to the detriment of the team.
theCATALYST
Football Messiah
Yes sir, there are several examples of the Patriots signing troubled players and getting great value out of them.
Decim8
Veteran
It also helps that you increase your chances of getting a ring when you go there
I don't blame you. This franchise is a circus run by clowns.
At this point, it's beyond being a fan. Fan is short for fanatic. How anyone could possibly be fanatical for this garbage is beyond my comprehension.
So then it really comes down to the simple concept of customer and product. If a restaurant put out meals that were the equivalent of how this organization is run, they'd be shut down by the healthy department ("slime in the ice machine!" lol) and lack of customers.
I love pro football. So I'll keep watching the good teams and the good games.
However, trying act like I care about something that I'm really apathetic about and partially despise is not my M.O. Crappy franchises are simply not entertaining.
All you have to do is read Andre Johnson's words. He has not tweeted anything beyond product endorsements in two freakin' years, and then he drops this truth bomb:
"The Texans organization is known for wasting players careers. Since Jack Easterby has walk into the building nothing good has happened in/for the organization and for some reason someone can’t seem to see what’s going on. Pathetic!!!" ~ Andre Johnson
I stick around for the forum, but honestly, this franchise doesn't deserve fans like y'all. It just doesn't. It's a default situation - I get it, hometown team and all that jazz - but they simply have not earned the loyalty and respect afforded to them by so many regular people.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
This is so true. I had a love / hate relationship with the Oilers. This team is just blah and boring, all the way from the name, uniform, to how things are run, etc. You can say a lot of things about the Bud Adams and the Oilers but blah and boring is not one of them.
I was totally onboard in the beginning because I felt like I needed to root for an NFL team in my home state. I could never root for the Cowboys. Besides opening night, this organization has consistently dropped the ball with me over and over again. I have rarely been on board with so many things they have done since they started. DW was one of the positive things they've done but now they're screwing that up.
Being a lifelong Bucs fan too I can tell you that franchise QBs don't grow on trees. Outside of Doug Williams and Tom Brady they haven't had one. The Bucs have NEVER signed a QB to a second contract. Now the league is all about having a top flight QB, you cannot win without one. Just look at the 4 teams left right now.
This team needs different ownership and a rebranding. It sucks for Houston, but they aren't my problem. I haven't lived in Houston since 1982 so no need for me to care about what Cal and company are doing. That said, letting DW walk will be something they will regret for years to come.
PapaL
Loose Screw
I’ve lived in MD for over 16 years. I’ve watched my Texans and the local teams. Every time Ravens got the best of the situation; draft, field, FO. I’ve watched them celebrate 2 SBs. Why do franchises win SB? They do all the things they don’t do on Kirby.
Just like when the Oilers left; follow good players and watch good football. Which of those are the Texans way?
Just like when the Oilers left; follow good players and watch good football. Which of those are the Texans way?
I hear ya', man. I've tried. Lord knows I've tried. But, the feelings I had toward the Oilers as a kid are simply nontransferable to the corporate creation known as the Houston Texans.
Been to 100+ games, always wearing gear and a hard hat. Season tickets/tailgating for almost a decade. Took freakin' bathes in the battle red koolaide, stayed until 0:00 was on the game clock of a 2-14 season. Donated an unkown amount of time to a fan message board to help the community. I don't even want to try to calculate how much money I've spent on tickets, tailgating, merchandise, etc. I lived and breathed it, just like many others here.
Heck, I've even had my picture used in their marketing. Me, screaming my head off (for probably yet another futile defensive stand lol), in my hard hat, next to my best bud doing the same.
All that said. . .I'm just empty. I've got nothing left to give this franchise. I simply don't care anymore. I have no respect for the owner. I do not believe he is capable on any level of fielding a championship-caliber team. And this is the fundamental difference between Bud and the McNairs. I never doubted Bud's desire to win, just his methods. I have nothing but doubts with regards to the McNair family.
I thought I used to be the same way. Like Dorothy skipping down the yellow brick road.
Then I saw it was just a bald, fat man behind a curtain pushing buttons and it all stopped being magic.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
My problem as well.
Texian
Hall of Fame
The general consensus is the main driving force on Nuk's departure is Momma Watson and Momma McNair. Easterby and O'Brien were the executioners.
It all circles back around to the fundamental flaw in this franchise of the McNairs being crappy owners. They are obviously excellent business people, tho'.
Decim8
Veteran
Unlike yous i dont have anything that links me to this team, never been to houston, no family there etc
Back here at home football is non existent, but in 2004 through playing madden with a group of friends we had this rule where 1. Two ppl can't pick the same team and 2. you pick a team and stick with them forever. So since all the good teams were taken i was left with you guessed it "houston texans" but I liked the team logo so there was that........and 16 years later, Im still here cause of a video game
Back here at home football is non existent, but in 2004 through playing madden with a group of friends we had this rule where 1. Two ppl can't pick the same team and 2. you pick a team and stick with them forever. So since all the good teams were taken i was left with you guessed it "houston texans" but I liked the team logo so there was that........and 16 years later, Im still here cause of a video game
Who was in their ears, telling them what a bad boy Hopkins was?
Texansballer74
The Marine
If the Texans doesn’t get this right then I will follow from afar and watch mainly high school and college ball.
The way Harden quit on the Rockets and forced a trade is a straight up weak move. The choice of words I would like use is not allowed unless you’re certain members. I can’t even use euphemism without being charged up.
The way Harden quit on the Rockets and forced a trade is a straight up weak move. The choice of words I would like use is not allowed unless you’re certain members. I can’t even use euphemism without being charged up.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Unlike yous i dont have anything that links me to this team, never been to houston, no family there etc
Back here at home football is non existent, but in 2004 through playing madden with a group of friends we had this rule where 1. Two ppl can't pick the same team and 2. you pick a team and stick with them forever. So since all the good teams were taken i was left with you guessed it "houston texans" but I liked the team logo so there was that........and 16 years later, Im still here cause of a video game
You may be the unluckiest person here hahahaha
Watson's long time girlfriend?
Cal the Cuck
I like the name. Texans. Ever since I heard that it brought to mind images of Texas independence Texans. Texians.
Kind of like Buccaneer is a swashbuckling pirate.
Texans
Norg
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sadly im in this **** 4 LIFE im a texans fan till i die and after i die has well through the many downs and little ups :P
anywho I find it amazing how cal will choose Jack esterbee over watson
Jack really is the rasputin in the texans organization im really starting to feel worried about cal he might be under some sort of spell LOL we might have to go rescue him or something
anywho I find it amazing how cal will choose Jack esterbee over watson
Jack really is the rasputin in the texans organization im really starting to feel worried about cal he might be under some sort of spell LOL we might have to go rescue him or something
Stay golden, Texan Norg.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
A lot of us are in this for the length of time they're the NFL franchise in Houston. I've been here all my life so it makes no sense to root for anyone other than the (current) Houston team. So for that, I'm in it for as long as they're here. If they pull a frigging Oilers on me then **** 'em and I'll wait for the next team.
Norg
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pretty much LOL
when the oilers left i was like whats the closest team i can root for now
Dallas......... nope
Saints.......nah
i guess ST louis rams it his but they left 2 lol thank god the texans came in 2002