How will Carr have to prove himself to Houston?

[mapleleaf]

I'd see that Carr really needs to be protected more, I mean if our OL was a state of the art OL in 2002-2005, we'd have the same reputation as the New England Patriots by now.

 

[Hulk75]

HAHA, QFT

I don't hate on the guy for being a God fearing man, I just hate on the guy for not being as committed as the real pro QBs are. I think a guy earlier on this thread spoke about how when Carr is on the sideline he is generally sitting on the bench by himself with his head down or talking to some moron Off Coordinator about something on the headset. That is the polar opposite of a Manning who is always seen looking at photos on formations and tendencies on the sidelines and always talking to his OL and WR. That coupled along with the fact that Manning is out there on the field 3 hours before the game (and during the offseason)refining his link to Marvelous Marvin, just goes to show you that it takes a real commitment to being the best. And Manning's failures show that sometimes that isnt even enough....but its a great place to start

I just feel in today's league you need a QB who is a leader both on and off the field. I dont want a choir boy, I want a General. I don't want a male model, I want a leader whose teammates would jump in a foxhole with. I want true leadership that inspires commitment and success. Someone you would fall on a sword for. That is all cliched and grandiose but its what it takes. If your 'leader' wont even share a beer or make time to go out and build relationships with other players, why would you ever want to fall on a sword for him and follow him into battle?

Being an NFL QB aint the same as being an IT manager, Project Manager, Lawyer or Contractor. It takes a little extra and the inevitable 'IT factor'...something of which Carr is sorely lacking based on what I have seen on the field (facts) and what I have heard off the field (facts and rumors).

Your best leaders are those that have the respect of their teammates. Michael Irvin was far from a choir boy and made some huge mistakes in his life, but that guy was the best leader I have ever seen in my 30+ years of following football. He talked the talk and walked the walk all the while still having a priority of family (dude has like 18 brothers and sisters he has supported since his first NFL pay day *and probably his first Miami payday too )

I am not saying you have to be an alcoholic, pill swallowing, devil worshipping extrovert Alpha male to be a top flight NFL QB. . Look at Roethlisberger, dude isnt the smartest guy in the world based on his decision making regarding cycles, but that dude has the belief of his teammates and parties with his boys. They rallied around him and won a World Championship in his 2nd year. It's not cause the dude is a hard partier but I guarantee you he relates more with this team than a pretty mama's boy does. I am just saying you have to be a little less country and a little more rock and roll. Geez today its probably a little less country and a little more hip hop and roll

This is my opinion, please don't damn me to hell for having one. k thx bye

Thanks to the Osmonds for that reference,
Doug from The Woodlands

Vinny I am going to be nice and not get into trouble...............

BUT I would bet on my children that the "pretty mamas boy" comment would not be said in front of him 6-4 220, benches 400lbs and if you did not know he took boxing while in HS and some in college, read it in an interview here in Santa Cruz when they did a article on his father down here.

Dont tell me the guy is not commited, try again.

O and they did not win the Superbowl on his shoulders, he better hope he gets back there so he can do a little better then what he did last year during the Superbowl, probably one of the worst QB outings in a Superbowl.

Douglas from the Beach

PS- there are other ways to get guys to Rally around you other then drinking and going to parties, this is not HS or College. Grown men with familys, like it or not this team is a very pro family and good guys-Just like McNair wanted it to be. Shoot our newest WR has 5 children.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Hopefully Carr finally develops into a legitimate NFL quality QB and we get to watch a better product on the field. Isn't that what it's all about, right? I don't need a team of Boy Scouts to enjoy my NFL Sunday. Dont get me wrong I dont want a team of wife beaters and dope dealers. But what I do want, for all of us, is a team that is bonded together by deserved respect and led by an organization that is focused on one goal, the Lombardi Trophy. I just hope that ends up being the case, but as a longtime suffering Houston NFL fan, I guess I may just have a good memory and might have become a little jaded over time.

In todays NFL, you never know what could happen. Maybe we catch lightning in a bottle at a couple positions, and we go 10-6+....there have been many examples of it since the salary cap being implemented really started to effect roster continuity...I am just saying that we need to create an atmosphere where 10-6 is just par. hopefully we can do that.

btw the Hurricanes just won the Stanley Cup *crickets chirping*

Doug from The Woodlands

 

[MorKnolle]

Vinny I am going to be nice and not get into trouble...............

BUT I would bet on my children that the "pretty mamas boy" comment would not be said in front of him 6-4 220, benches 400lbs and if you did not know he took boxing while in HS and some in college, read it in an interview here in Santa Cruz when they did a article on his father down here.

Dont tell me the guy is not commited, try again.

O and they did not win the Superbowl on his shoulders, he better hope he gets back there so he can do a little better then what he did last year during the Superbowl, probably one of the worst QB outings in a Superbowl.

Douglas from the Beach

PS- there are other ways to get guys to Rally around you other then drinking and going to parties, this is not HS or College. Grown men with familys, like it or not this team is a very pro family and good guys-Just like McNair wanted it to be. Shoot our newest WR has 5 children.

If I remember right he had the lowest QB rating ever for the winning team during the Super Bowl.

 

[TwinSisters]

Why does every Carr thread have to start a holy war??? Geez.....

Can we get an addition to the Terms of Use for this board? Something about separation of church and football.

It cannot be done. If you seperated God from football, it wouldn't be Texas football anymore. We would regress back to secular liberal Harvard rugby. Football, God, and Politics go hand in hand in Sam's pasture.

on that note: I wonder if Dave is a card holding Democrat? Did we talk about that yet? I don't think we have.

 

[Texanfan4ever]

HAHA, QFT

I don't hate on the guy for being a God fearing man, I just hate on the guy for not being as committed as the real pro QBs are. I think a guy earlier on this thread spoke about how when Carr is on the sideline he is generally sitting on the bench by himself with his head down or talking to some moron Off Coordinator about something on the headset. That is the polar opposite of a Manning who is always seen looking at photos on formations and tendencies on the sidelines and always talking to his OL and WR. That coupled along with the fact that Manning is out there on the field 3 hours before the game (and during the offseason)refining his link to Marvelous Marvin, just goes to show you that it takes a real commitment to being the best. And Manning's failures show that sometimes that isnt even enough....but its a great place to start

I just feel in today's league you need a QB who is a leader both on and off the field. I dont want a choir boy, I want a General. I don't want a male model, I want a leader whose teammates would jump in a foxhole with. I want true leadership that inspires commitment and success. Someone you would fall on a sword for. That is all cliched and grandiose but its what it takes. If your 'leader' wont even share a beer or make time to go out and build relationships with other players, why would you ever want to fall on a sword for him and follow him into battle?

Being an NFL QB aint the same as being an IT manager, Project Manager, Lawyer or Contractor. It takes a little extra and the inevitable 'IT factor'...something of which Carr is sorely lacking based on what I have seen on the field (facts) and what I have heard off the field (facts and rumors).

Your best leaders are those that have the respect of their teammates. Michael Irvin was far from a choir boy and made some huge mistakes in his life, but that guy was the best leader I have ever seen in my 30+ years of following football. He talked the talk and walked the walk all the while still having a priority of family (dude has like 18 brothers and sisters he has supported since his first NFL pay day *and probably his first Miami payday too )

I am not saying you have to be an alcoholic, pill swallowing, devil worshipping extrovert Alpha male to be a top flight NFL QB. . Look at Roethlisberger, dude isnt the smartest guy in the world based on his decision making regarding cycles, but that dude has the belief of his teammates and parties with his boys. They rallied around him and won a World Championship in his 2nd year. It's not cause the dude is a hard partier but I guarantee you he relates more with this team than a pretty mama's boy does. I am just saying you have to be a little less country and a little more rock and roll. Geez today its probably a little less country and a little more hip hop and roll

This is my opinion, please don't damn me to hell for having one. k thx bye

Thanks to the Osmonds for that reference,
Doug from The Woodlands

Do you think Carr ever had a choice with what he could do on the sidelines? You think he just put on the head phones for looks or what? They were coaching him from up there with a bunch of crap he had to follow. What would you have had him do, rebel on every stupid play those idiot coaches called, time after time after time? You just don't do that. Manning has options, just as Carr will this year. Sit back and watch!

 

[TexansLucky13]

Can we get an addition to the Terms of Use for this board? Something about separation of church and football.

Hahaha. True that.

P.S.- Carr rox your sox and you know it, too.