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How will Carr have to prove himself to Houston?

I'm now not only a Carr homer, but a Kubiak Homer. But I am happy being a Homer and I can't wait until August. I am so excited for all the guys, boy what a breath of fresh air Kubiak and his group is.

And I agree, if Carr and the boys could do what they did with what they had, just imagine what they can do with some help like they have now. NFL lookout, the Texans will be a team to reckon with.

I live for Sundays!!!:mario: :ok:
 
So Robert Mathis got a new deal, cool, good for him but look what
picture they just happen to put up..............

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I see 3 Colts and not one other Texan.
 
HoustonFan said:
If that's what Kubiak thinks, then that's awesome. I'm gonna co-sign w/ Hutch, though on Bennie Joppru. He seems to have recouped well enough to have survived OTAs - big step from previous seasons.
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I bet if anything Bennie celebrated the fact that he has made it this far.:francis: :whip: :bananasplit:
 
Hulk75 said:
So Robert Mathis got a new deal, cool, good for him but look what
picture they just happen to put up..............

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I see 3 Colts and not one other Texan.
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Yeah, they probably had about 10 pictures to choose from.
 
I cant just let this post fly by without giving the poster my :twocents: .....It really irritated me reading it .



dwilt72 said:
Personally, I think he needs to spend time at the stadium watching film and quit worrying about running home to the wife and kids.
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Dude get a freaking grip , Family is the number one priority . Maybe you arent lucky enough to have a wife and kids to go home to .... And if thats the case I can understand your ignorance as You havent a clue what you are missing .
 
FSUBulldog said:
Before stating my position, here's a list of qualifying statements regarding Carr:

1) It's well-documented that Carr has received little support on the offensive line and in the skill positions during his first four years in the league. This has hampered his growth as well as his confidence level to-date.

2) Given statement #1, he performance has fluctuated between "really good" and "mediocre" during this period. The Ram game last year ("really good") vs. the repeated times he's run out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage.

3) He's a physically tough individual who has shown an amazing chin given the number of times he has been leveled in his career.

4) I'm a Fresno State alum who has watched him since his first start in college and every game of his Texans career. While I have a normal bias towards wanting to see him succeed, I can remain objective regarding a player from my hometown. ("No, Trent Dilfer was never a star QB, even in college" and "No, Billy Volek doesn't have more upside than Vince Young")

All that said, I fail to see how anything short of a playoff and a Pro Bowl appearance by DC this year will calm the rumbling about him as the Texans starting QB. Maybe there is a large undercurrent of fans who really support him, but based on my readings, they are generally not on this board. If he does lead the Texans to the playoffs and earns a PB spot, he would be "tolerated", not "accepted" by the Houston faithful.

I'm just not sure he can realistically live up to the expectations of the masses at this point. While I hate to say this, the more I read the more I realize that a change of scenery might be the most fair thing for DC at this point in his career. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I've just been reading this MB too much this offseason, and maybe the voices I keep hearing are the vocal minority, but when I look at what it will take for DC to be accepted here, I wonder if the expectation is at all realistic given the past four years of mediocracy that has surrounded this team and city.
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Dude, If David Carr leads the Texans to the Playoffs this year, the population of Houston would have a freaking parade down Main St. in their honor. Playoffs?!?! Playoffs?!?! Were talking about Playoffs?!?! Trust me, there are a lot of people that dont think Carr is any good, but that same fan would be buying a Carr jersey if he leads the Texans to the playoffs this year. It would be NFL Story Of The Year if actually came to be. I like optimism like that because it has happened in the past, but I just want the team to learn how to finish games...that would be a start and a necessity to even begin talking about playoffs...

doug from the woodlands
 
We are still VERY weak at OL. As Dungy said about Carr and our O-line, "Not even Manning would have success there."

McKinney flat out sucks no matter where he plays. I dont know how many times Ive seen him facing the camera behind the QB because his guy simply and easily went by him.

Flannigan has not played a decent full season in 3 years and Winston was so pathetic at Senior week that he dropped down. We can only hope Winston's HORRIBLE showing at the Senior bowl was due to his knee injury and he has fully healed.
 
exactly! and I "AM" a Carr supporter, it's just to easy for people to look at a struggling team and point the finger at one guy. It's NEVER one guy, NEVER. it's a team sport. if everyone liked Carr they would look at the numbers and say "if onlly he were on a good team he would really shine" but instead they say" Carr is not the one we need at QB, all he does is get sacked" I could get proven wrong this year, and that's fine. but I truly believe David Carr is a tremendous athlete with all the tools and will be a hall of famer some day. The capers regime absolutely sucked, with their "stay in the game" system. you either play to win, or you play to lose. I think Kubiak wants to win, and Carr will thrive under his system, and with all the new talent we aquired in the offseason, everyone will be taking another look at the Texans and David Carr this year.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Dude, If David Carr leads the Texans to the Playoffs this year, the population of Houston would have a freaking parade down Main St. in their honor. Playoffs?!?! Playoffs?!?! Were talking about Playoffs?!?! Trust me, there are a lot of people that dont think Carr is any good, but that same fan would be buying a Carr jersey if he leads the Texans to the playoffs this year. It would be NFL Story Of The Year if actually came to be. I like optimism like that because it has happened in the past, but I just want the team to learn how to finish games...that would be a start and a necessity to even begin talking about playoffs...

doug from the woodlands
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I would have a parade if we went 8-8 this season, I am thinking playoffs next season...
 
Goldeagle said:
We are still VERY weak at OL. As Dungy said about Carr and our O-line, "Not even Manning would have success there."

McKinney flat out sucks no matter where he plays. I dont know how many times Ive seen him facing the camera behind the QB because his guy simply and easily went by him.

Flannigan has not played a decent full season in 3 years and Winston was so pathetic at Senior week that he dropped down. We can only hope Winston's HORRIBLE showing at the Senior bowl was due to his knee injury and he has fully healed.
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I am curious, did you actually watch the Senior Bowl? I did and while Winston was not the best Tackle out there he was definantly top 5. You are forgetting that he has been recovering fron a major knee surgery and his leg wont be up to full strength until sometime this summer. McKinney is a decent player and Flannigan is one of the better Centers in the league. Last year he missed a big chunk of time but only a little time before that and his play has been at worst Very solid. Get a grip on yourself bud. We don't want to hear your pathetic negativity. And I say "pathetic" because you are simply talking. Game tape will prove what you say to be incorrect.
 
I am a Carr supporter for sure. So I also must throw in my :twocents:

First he must get rid of those happy feet. Scrambles way to early/

Second, Mr Carr needs to relax and play with the God Given talents he has been blessed with. I do not beleive any of us have yet to see the "Best" David Carr has to offer.


Also to add. God first, Family second, the team third. Those are prioritys...:chicken:
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
I am a Carr supporter for sure. So I also must throw in my :twocents:

First he must get rid of those happy feet. Scrambles way to early/

Second, Mr Carr needs to relax and play with the God Given talents he has been blessed with. I do not beleive any of us have yet to see the "Best" David Carr has to offer.


Also to add. God first, Family second, the team third. Those are prioritys...:chicken:
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Sorry to say but that doesnt get it done when you are highest paid player on your team and the QB. During the season the priorities are Team first, Team second, Team third, God and family fourth. If those arent the priorities then we got ourselves the wrong QB. Manning gives praise to God and is a good QB and citizen, but during the season he lives, breathes, eats, and kraps football. That is what it takes. Prioritize as you please during the off-season but during the season football is priority #1 in order to be a champion.

doug from the woodlands
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Sorry to say but that doesnt get it done when you are highest paid player on your team and the QB. During the season the priorities are Team first, Team second, Team third, God and family fourth. If those arent the priorities then we got ourselves the wrong QB. Manning gives praise to God and is a good QB and citizen, but during the season he lives, breathes, eats, and kraps football. That is what it takes. Prioritize as you please during the off-season but during the season football is priority #1 in order to be a champion.

doug from the woodlands
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How did I know it was you before I every saw the name
 
Manning is one motivated dude and one of Carr's biggest problems has been motivation. The guy had a free ride under Capers and took full advantage of it.

I went to the Colts game a few years back and watched both guys on the sidelines. After every possession Manning would study pictures and talk to teammates and coaches. When Carr went to the bench he would just sit there in a daze most of the time.

The good news is that Carr's free ride is over and he will probably be gone after this season if he doesn't show vast improvement.
 
the wonger need food said:
Manning is one motivated dude and one of Carr's biggest problems has been motivation. The guy had a free ride under Capers and took full advantage of it.

I went to the Colts game a few years back and watched both guys on the sidelines. After every possession Manning would study pictures and talk to teammates and coaches. When Carr went to the bench he would just sit there in a daze most of the time.

The good news is that Carr's free ride is over and he will probably be gone after this season if he doesn't show vast improvement.
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Capers was in a daze most of the time. I don't think there was anyone to talk to on our team................
 
Ibar_Harry said:
Capers was in a daze most of the time. I don't think there was anyone to talk to on our team................
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Why do you think Carr is so happy now? He knows he has a coach he can go to and say this ain't working what adjustments do we need to make? He knows he will get an anwer. It might be David change this you are doing or it might be the defense won't give you this, but they will give you the following. Kubiak from what I have seen takes it all in and knows how to adjust. Our previous staff didn't know how to adjust to anything. It was run this that's what I have on the note pad. What do you mean it's not working? It has too. That's what we planned. Just go out an execute and everything will be alright. Quit questioning our plans and you will be alright.

That unfortunately is literally what was happening to our team. Time after time people would say why don't they adjust. Again the answer was we simply had a coaching staff incapable of adjusting on the fly.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Sorry to say but that doesnt get it done when you are highest paid player on your team and the QB. During the season the priorities are Team first, Team second, Team third, God and family fourth. If those arent the priorities then we got ourselves the wrong QB. Manning gives praise to God and is a good QB and citizen, but during the season he lives, breathes, eats, and kraps football. That is what it takes. Prioritize as you please during the off-season but during the season football is priority #1 in order to be a champion.

doug from the woodlands
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Maybe you have your priorities all wrong then...

May God have mercy on your soul......:pigfly:
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
First he must get rid of those happy feet. Scrambles way to early
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I'm on Carr's side but my fear is that he won't be able to shake the bad habits he's picked up the past few years. After the 7-9 season, I thought he was going to be fine... but after the pounding last year, I'm just afraid he's damaged goods. He's got to be a very strange dude if he doesn't have some sort of psychological trauma.

I remember Everett from the Rams. Everyone was expecting him to have a break-out season and that year, the Rams line was crap and he just took a horrible beating (but nowhere near as bad as what Carr has taken.) Everett never could get his head on straight after that. He would lock onto receivers, get happy feet in the pocket, and just make really bad decisions with the ball.

I think, and I've really got no reason for this but pure homerism, I think that Carr's going to be fine and have a great career.
:gotexans1
 
Well, I've been gone a week working in Palestine, and I'm about to go back ... yippee. Unfortunately theres no computer, and today I've been trying to soak up all the info from the forum that I've missed over the last 6 days ... this 7 page thread looks disheartening.... can someone whos been following it give me a brief re-cap?, thank you.
 
Brandon420tx said:
Well, I've been gone a week working in Palestine, and I'm about to go back ... yippee. Unfortunately theres no computer, and today I've been trying to soak up all the info from the forum that I've missed over the last 6 days ... this 7 page thread looks disheartening.... can someone whos been following it give me a brief re-cap?, thank you.
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Carr sucks.

No he doesn't.

We shouldn't have resigned him. He's going into his fifth year and we're still talking about potential, man. Potential.

Yes we should have. Our coaches, O-line, receivers, running game, defense, and entire system sucked from top to bottom last year. It's not David Carr.

Insert single post containing random voice of reason. Ignored.

I've watched all his games, he's terrible.

No he's not. I watched them all too.

Repeat.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Sorry to say but that doesnt get it done when you are highest paid player on your team and the QB. During the season the priorities are Team first, Team second, Team third, God and family fourth. If those arent the priorities then we got ourselves the wrong QB. Manning gives praise to God and is a good QB and citizen, but during the season he lives, breathes, eats, and kraps football. That is what it takes. Prioritize as you please during the off-season but during the season football is priority #1 in order to be a champion.

doug from the woodlands
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How do you know this? I'm aware he has a reputation for hard work and that no player spends more time on the job than Manning, but that doesn't mean his family isn't a priority. This isn't Neverland, get real.
 
jerek said:
Carr sucks.

No he doesn't.

We shouldn't have resigned him. He's going into his fifth year and we're still talking about potential, man. Potential.

Yes we should have. Our coaches, O-line, receivers, running game, defense, and entire system sucked from top to bottom last year. It's not David Carr.

Insert single post containing random voice of reason. Ignored.

I've watched all his games, he's terrible.

No he's not. I watched them all too.



Repeat.
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priceless, unfortunately you summed it up pretty good lol.
 
Peyton Manning doesnt have a family, so how are you gonna compare his priorities with David Carr, Everybody knows family is first
 
jerek said:
Carr sucks.

No he doesn't.

We shouldn't have resigned him. He's going into his fifth year and we're still talking about potential, man. Potential.

Yes we should have. Our coaches, O-line, receivers, running game, defense, and entire system sucked from top to bottom last year. It's not David Carr.

Insert single post containing random voice of reason. Ignored.

I've watched all his games, he's terrible.

No he's not. I watched them all too.

Repeat.
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Wow, thank you,
of course,
it could have been easier for you to say "The same way all Carr Threads look like",

I guess I got my hopes up that something might be unique about this thread... Should have known better.
 
the threads on Carr wont change much until he shuts up the haters, I think this season will go a long way towards that. the next stage of threads will prolly be the "it's about time....." variety, but at least they will be different.
 
the wonger need food said:
Manning is one motivated dude and one of Carr's biggest problems has been motivation. The guy had a free ride under Capers and took full advantage of it.

Seriously, Carr not motivated, are you kidding? Have you been sleeping or actually watching our team?

And a free ride, are you kidding? He deserves whatever money he gets so he can pay all his medical bills when he is older from being flattened 10 times a game for 4 years. Free ride, I don't think so.

Shouldn't have even commented, but that kind of talk just gets under your skin.
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HomeBred_Texan said:
Maybe you have your priorities all wrong then...

May God have mercy on your soul......:pigfly:
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Why am I not surprised that those who blindlessly support such ultra-piety, show such an intolerant and flippant attitude towards people who don't feel exactly like they do. You then have the audacity to question my own faith and ask for mercy on my soul. And you question my faith, only because I feel that God can be a priority in one's life without being the #1 priority. Judging other people based on your own beliefs is an arrogant and self centered way of going through life. Oh by the way, that attitude is against the very beliefs that you aspire to uphold.

If you want to champion the fact that Carr focuses more on reading The Bible than reading his own playbook, that is fine, but dont judge my fealty, faith, and soul because I feel differently than you do. I am sure you are probably one of the same yay-hoos who think someone automatically goes to hell for being gay or following a religion other than your own. That viewpoint is juvenile, self centered, and one of the reasons this planet is in a perpetual state of war. Congratulations.

Sorry to hijack the thread but no self-important self-deluded yayhoo is going to call out my own faith and attempt to label me as a heretic. I hope you enjoyed your little lesson in humility, if you actually listened to your pastor's speeches maybe you wouldn't be so quick to judge.

doug from the woodlands
 
Carr2Johnson said:
Peyton Manning doesnt have a family, so how are you gonna compare his priorities with David Carr, Everybody knows family is first
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I don't know if Archie and Eli would agree to that statement! That's all the family he will ever have.
 
I was thinking about starting a thread where we could discuss David Carr. Does that sound interesting to you guys or do you think we would just recycle the same old crap?
 
AFD1717 said:
I was thinking about starting a thread where we could discuss David Carr. Does that sound interesting to you guys or do you think we would just recycle the same old crap?
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Ok, sounds interesting to me. Question is how are you going to keep it from becoming the same old crap?
 
Texanfan4ever said:
the wonger need food said:
Manning is one motivated dude and one of Carr's biggest problems has been motivation. The guy had a free ride under Capers and took full advantage of it.

Seriously, Carr not motivated, are you kidding? Have you been sleeping or actually watching our team?

And a free ride, are you kidding? He deserves whatever money he gets so he can pay all his medical bills when he is older from being flattened 10 times a game for 4 years. Free ride, I don't think so.

Shouldn't have even commented, but that kind of talk just gets under your skin.
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Yes, seriously. He had a free ride under Capers and was not motivated to get any better because his job and money were secure. And I've seen every snap Davie Franchise has taken.
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dat_boy_yec said:
Why do I feel disappointed. Oh well back to the drawing board.
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We should have called Seattle on Hutchinson instead of Minnesota. Then Seattle would have called us on Gaffney.

I would have said thanks and enjoy! 12th man forever.

That would have helped Carr.

Not to mention we should have busted the bank on Walter Jones when his contract year rolled around. Had we done that we would not have been able to afford a lot of guys that we paid too much for.

That would have helped Carr.
 
i'm going to try to stay positive about this. i don't think that since dave has been on his back for the last few years, that he will automatically have the happy feet. i believe that him gaining confidence with a new offense that he sees working will keep him from reverting back to his old ways. having new personnel with the players and coaches, and new blocking schemes, the man's gotta feel a lot more positive going into this year. so who knows? i agree that we haven't seen the best of dave. based on the tough schedule, i'm predicting a 6-10 record. but a step in the right direction.
 
im really gonna go out on a limb and say 9-7 wich probably will mean we end up in a tie breaker situation for last wildcard spot.

1 Phi W (we upset philly and the whole country scratches their head)
2 Ind L (The country breathes a sigh of relief realizing week 1 was a fluke)
3 Wsh W (more scratching...)
4 Mia L
5 Dal w (houston calls out national guard after chaos insues)
6 Jax L (houston loses nailbiter on contravercial call)
7 Ten W (Tennesee realizes losing mcnair might not have been a good idea)
8 NYG L
9 Jax W (houston wins nailbiter after video challenge)
10 Buf L
11 NyJ W (Jets wish they would have taken a QB in draft)
12 oak W
13 Ten L (Ten wins a close one with backup QB and feels better about mcnair)
14 NE L
15 Ind W (Mario Williams sacks Peyton 3 times bringing total to 18 for the year)
16 Cle W (Houston squeaks into wildcard spot, Carr gets 26th TD of the year)


It could happen :)
 
TK_Gamer said:
im really gonna go out on a limb and say 9-7 wich probably will mean we end up in a tie breaker situation for last wildcard spot.

1 Phi W (we upset philly and the whole country scratches their head)
2 Ind L (The country breathes a sigh of relief realizing week 1 was a fluke)
3 Wsh W (more scratching...)
4 Mia L
5 Dal w (houston calls out national guard after chaos insues)
6 Jax L (houston loses nailbiter on contravercial call)
7 Ten W (Tennesee realizes losing mcnair might not have been a good idea)
8 NYG L
9 Jax W (houston wins nailbiter after video challenge)
10 Buf L
11 NyJ W (Jets wish they would have taken a QB in draft)
12 oak W
13 Ten L (Ten wins a close one with backup QB and feek better about mcnair)
14 NE L
15 Ind W (Mario Williams sacks Peyton 3 times bringing total to 18 for the year)
16 Cle W (Houston squeaks into wildcard spot, Carr gets 26th TD of the year)

It could happen :)
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I don't see 9-7 getting a playoff spot this year, but you never know...

I am excited about that stretch of games between week 9-13. Definite possibility for their first 3-game win streak.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Why am I not surprised that those who blindlessly support such ultra-piety, show such an intolerant and flippant attitude towards people who don't feel exactly like they do. You then have the audacity to question my own faith and ask for mercy on my soul. And you question my faith, only because I feel that God can be a priority in one's life without being the #1 priority. Judging other people based on your own beliefs is an arrogant and self centered way of going through life. Oh by the way, that attitude is against the very beliefs that you aspire to uphold.

If you want to champion the fact that Carr focuses more on reading The Bible than reading his own playbook, that is fine, but dont judge my fealty, faith, and soul because I feel differently than you do. I am sure you are probably one of the same yay-hoos who think someone automatically goes to hell for being gay or following a religion other than your own. That viewpoint is juvenile, self centered, and one of the reasons this planet is in a perpetual state of war. Congratulations.

Sorry to hijack the thread but no self-important self-deluded yayhoo is going to call out my own faith and attempt to label me as a heretic. I hope you enjoyed your little lesson in humility, if you actually listened to your pastor's speeches maybe you wouldn't be so quick to judge.

doug from the woodlands
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Carr can keep God as his #1 priority without hurting his team. Anyone of us can keep God as our #1 priority without it being a hinderance or crutch to our daily life and in fact it would be quite the opposite. I don't know about your personal beliefs and I am not here to judge you, just here to speak from personal experience that I do keep God as my #1 priority and it has helped me in the other aspects of my daily life not hindered it. Now why should that be any different for anyone? And I agree that that guy's comment was uncalled for. If you wish to speak more about this send me a PM so this thread can be given back to the Carr bashing:)
 
the wonger need food said:
I am excited about that stretch of games between week 9-13. Definite possibility for their first 3-game win streak.
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Not me. I am still smarting from that stomping that we took from Detroit and San Diego. There was going to be a win on opening day and a back to back victory roll the following week... first 2 game win streak. BUT NOOOOoooooooo it just couldn't be.
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
Maybe you have your priorities all wrong then...

May God have mercy on your soul......:pigfly:
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That is uncalled for.

Not everybody believes as you do and not everybody here is even Christian.

Other people's faith is not your business.
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
Carr can keep God as his #1 priority without hurting his team. Anyone of us can keep God as our #1 priority without it being a hinderance or crutch to our daily life and in fact it would be quite the opposite. QUOTE]


I agree.
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the wonger need food said:
Why does every Carr thread have to start a holy war??? Geez.....

Can we get an addition to the Terms of Use for this board? Something about separation of church and football.
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There should at least be a rule about piggybacking on other Carr threads and not starting a new one every two hours. The David Carr clause. Brilliant work Wonger, and I second the motion.

We can add to it a no-partisan-arguments in the No Spin Zone. The world doesn't divide along Democrat and Republican.
 
jerek said:
There should at least be a rule about piggybacking on other Carr threads and not starting a new one every two hours. The David Carr clause. Brilliant work Wonger, and I second the motion.

We can add to it a no-partisan-arguments in the No Spin Zone. The world doesn't divide along Democrat and Republican.
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Okay its a rule...........:tease: idonno:
 
We should just have a web page with everyone's opinion on it. And when a new Carr thread emerges, we lock it and and put a link to the Carr page. That way everyone can see what has been said and will be said. :ok: deja vu?

This would work until the season starts and we really have something to discuss. Until then, it's the same old, same old: :crazy:
 
Double Barrel said:
We should just have a web page with everyone's opinion on it. And when a new Carr thread emerges, we lock it and and put a link to the Carr page. That way everyone can see what has been said and will be said. :ok: deja vu?

This would work until the season starts and we really have something to discuss. Until then, it's the same old, same old: :crazy:
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HAHA, QFT

I don't hate on the guy for being a God fearing man, I just hate on the guy for not being as committed as the real pro QBs are. I think a guy earlier on this thread spoke about how when Carr is on the sideline he is generally sitting on the bench by himself with his head down or talking to some moron Off Coordinator about something on the headset. That is the polar opposite of a Manning who is always seen looking at photos on formations and tendencies on the sidelines and always talking to his OL and WR. That coupled along with the fact that Manning is out there on the field 3 hours before the game (and during the offseason)refining his link to Marvelous Marvin, just goes to show you that it takes a real commitment to being the best. And Manning's failures show that sometimes that isnt even enough....but its a great place to start

I just feel in today's league you need a QB who is a leader both on and off the field. I dont want a choir boy, I want a General. I don't want a male model, I want a leader whose teammates would jump in a foxhole with. I want true leadership that inspires commitment and success. Someone you would fall on a sword for. That is all cliched and grandiose but its what it takes. If your 'leader' wont even share a beer or make time to go out and build relationships with other players, why would you ever want to fall on a sword for him and follow him into battle?

Being an NFL QB aint the same as being an IT manager, Project Manager, Lawyer or Contractor. It takes a little extra and the inevitable 'IT factor'...something of which Carr is sorely lacking based on what I have seen on the field (facts) and what I have heard off the field (facts and rumors).

Your best leaders are those that have the respect of their teammates. Michael Irvin was far from a choir boy and made some huge mistakes in his life, but that guy was the best leader I have ever seen in my 30+ years of following football. He talked the talk and walked the walk all the while still having a priority of family (dude has like 18 brothers and sisters he has supported since his first NFL pay day *and probably his first Miami payday too :) )

I am not saying you have to be an alcoholic, pill swallowing, devil worshipping extrovert Alpha male to be a top flight NFL QB. . Look at Roethlisberger, dude isnt the smartest guy in the world based on his decision making regarding cycles, but that dude has the belief of his teammates and parties with his boys. They rallied around him and won a World Championship in his 2nd year. It's not cause the dude is a hard partier but I guarantee you he relates more with this team than a pretty mama's boy does. I am just saying you have to be a little less country and a little more rock and roll. Geez today its probably a little less country and a little more hip hop and roll

This is my opinion, please don't damn me to hell for having one. k thx bye

Thanks to the Osmonds for that reference,
Doug from The Woodlands
 
Second Honeymoon said:
I am just saying you have to be a little less country and a little more rock and roll.
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I think you've nailed it. David Carr needs to be more like Donny Osmond.

Another in a long line of great David Carr threads. It just gets better & better. Keep up the good work, folks.
 
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