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How old is Les Miles? The game hasn't passed him by has it? One of you mentioned how he coached a old school caliber of football and refused to adjust to today's game.
 
Les Miles is the worst kind of coach for a UH team that wants to get into a big conference. I don't see Miles being the guy to carry that torch of justice through the red tape of the elitists that are in the way. They need to find another young and vibrant HC that could continue the type of style that Herman did or bite the bullet and go after Briles. With Briles I think they could sustain the same style competitiveness without much of a drop off. Women around campus would probably need to all get CHL's though.
 
Texian said:
Les Miles nearly even money to land Houston job
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Let's go, Les Miles! Lead us to victory. He's 63 years old. Not as bad as I had thought (closer to 70). I hope he still has the energy and passion. There's no denying he's been a heck of a coach for a long time.


We can do worse than Les Miles, IMO.
I'll rally behind him if we indeed hire him.

"Miles went 114-34 at LSU until getting fired with a 2-2 record this season. He was 62-28 in SEC play, winning two conference titles and the 2007 national championship."

Those are some impressive numbers coaching in the SEC! Can't argue too much with 114-34 and a National Championship. And a 62-28 record against SEC competition isn't easy to do.

With Les Miles we may actually be able to win some American Athletic Conference road games against the likes of Navy, SMU and Memphis.
 
With a top notch bowl performance I could see Orlando getting the nod.

Otherwise, the longer this goes on the more likely it is that Lane Kiffin will be hired instead of Miles.
 
Coaching rumors: Lincoln Riley doing better with Houston than Lane Kiffin
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CBS Sports’ Dennis Dodd reports Oklahoma offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley “killed it” in his interview with Houston. Kiffin is reportedly doing “well” in the race, but Riley’s presentation was “ahead” of the rest of the candidates."

“I would be surprised if they don’t hire (Riley),” a source told Dodd.
 
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Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 4m4 minutes ago
College football sources:@UHouston vetting 4candidates:Todd Orlando,Major Applewhite,Les Miles,Lane Kiffin. Lincoln Riley no longer involved

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ESPN is saying that UH wants Kiffin but is trying to stack his contract with provisions that would make it hard for him to leave. That's the hold-up right now it seems.

I understand UH not wanting to get burned again but if that's the case then stay away from stepping stone candidates like Kiffin. Everyone in the world knows Kiffin would only be taking the UH job in order to parlay it into a big job like Herman just did. If UH doesn't want that then stay away.
 
WolverineFan said:
ESPN is saying that UH wants Kiffin but is trying to stack his contract with provisions that would make it hard for him to leave. That's the hold-up right now it seems.

I understand UH not wanting to get burned again but if that's the case then stay away from stepping stone candidates like Kiffin. Everyone in the world knows Kiffin would only be taking the UH job in order to parlay it into a big job like Herman just did. If UH doesn't want that then stay away.
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So, I guess the alternative would be getting a small fish to go with our small status???? I can't imagine any UH AD thinking that way, or any AD for that matter.
 
I don't understand the appeal of Kiffin. He is in my mind the definition of "unstable" and the fact that Alabama has a good offense (or good anything really) has very little to do with adding him to Saban's coaching staff. At USC there was trouble. At Tennessee he ditched them after one season.

I just don't see the appeal of this guy.
 
WolverineFan said:
ESPN is saying that UH wants Kiffin but is trying to stack his contract with provisions that would make it hard for him to leave. That's the hold-up right now it seems.

I understand UH not wanting to get burned again but if that's the case then stay away from stepping stone candidates like Kiffin. Everyone in the world knows Kiffin would only be taking the UH job in order to parlay it into a big job like Herman just did. If UH doesn't want that then stay away.
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Heard a clip of a Fertitta rant on the radio today... he seems pissed about coaches leaving after a year or two. Said "No More"! at UH
 
WolverineFan said:
I understand UH not wanting to get burned again but if that's the case then stay away from stepping stone candidates like Kiffin. Everyone in the world knows Kiffin would only be taking the UH job in order to parlay it into a big job like Herman just did. If UH doesn't want that then stay away.
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Briles stayed for 5 years. Sumlin for 4. That's reasonable and understandable. 2 years is not sustainable long term for the program. The new coach needs to understand that and be willing to make a 4 year commitment to UH.
 
Lucky said:
Briles stayed for 5 years. Sumlin for 4. That's reasonable and understandable. 2 years is not sustainable long term for the program. The new coach needs to understand that and be willing to make a 4 year commitment to UH.
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You're making my point. Kiffin is the same guy who left an SEC power (Tennessee) after 1 year. Targeting him with the expectation that he's in it for the long haul is bordering on foolishness.

If you want a guy to stay for 4-5 years then go get a guy who will stay for 4-5 years. That guy is not Lane Kiffin.
 
Showtime100 said:
So, I guess the alternative would be getting a small fish to go with our small status???? I can't imagine any UH AD thinking that way, or any AD for that matter.
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The alternative is to target a guy who will stick around. Young, hot shot coordinators typically don't stick around. They parlay their success into big jobs.

UH fans want a great coach who won't be looking for a promotion. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You either take a great coach and deal with him leaving or you don't take a great coach and try to maintain that level of success with someone else.
 
JB said:
Heard a clip of a Fertitta rant on the radio today... he seems pissed about coaches leaving after a year or two. Said "No More"! at UH
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It makes me think that the Lane Kiffin deal will be at least four years (minimum) if not more. Fertitta said, "it's not going to be an issue here anymore", and he was very adamant about it (raising his voice), and then he added, "otherwise he won't become the new head coach."
 
WolverineFan said:
The alternative is to target a guy who will stick around. Young, hot shot coordinators typically don't stick around. They parlay their success into big jobs.

UH fans want a great coach who won't be looking for a promotion. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You either take a great coach and deal with him leaving or you don't take a great coach and try to maintain that level of success with someone else.
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Sure you can. Point is, if there's a cake, at least try to eat it. Otherwise just call yourself the Texans and hope the fanbase doesn't mind. :D
 
I would have preferred Orlando but not surprised they went with the offensive guy. I do prefer this hire over Kiffin. I think the negotiations with Kiffin proved he was just going to use UH to catapult up like Herman did and UH doesn't want that. Good on them to realize that and kick him to the curb for someone with less name brand but who will actually stick around.

Kiffin has more flash but personally I don't think he's a good HC. Good coordinator but doesn't have the right temperament to be a HC.
 
Good for the Major. Interesting name but no matter. Unlike Kiffen this looks like a guy who may stay around H-Town for maybe a few months or even longer.
 
I wonder what the buyout is? Has anyone read anything about that?

Orlando I guess will be headed to UT now so now we need to get a DC and see if we can't keep winning.
 
Hervoyel said:
I wonder what the buyout is? Has anyone read anything about that?

Orlando I guess will be headed to UT now so now we need to get a DC and see if we can't keep winning.
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Do you think any of the coaches will stay with MA or will he want to start from scratch? Not sure how many were left that TH didn't take. The DC will definitely be an important hire.
 
Insideop said:
Do you think any of the coaches will stay with MA or will he want to start from scratch? Not sure how many were left that TH didn't take. The DC will definitely be an important hire.
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I have no idea but Applewhite has worked as an OC at a number of places and he's bound to have some connections so I would hope that we might be able to attract some good talent to replace what we lost. I'm sure Orlando goes and I bet he takes some guys with him. I was a bit surprised we didn't hire him for the HC spot if we were going to stay in-house. Applewhite isn't going back to UT anytime soon with that lawsuit still on the table and he'd have probably stayed with Orlando here. The other way around there's nothing to keep Orlando in Houston and I'm kind of surprised that they're talking about him staying to coach the defense in the bowl game.

I wonder if Vrabel might throw his hat into the ring to DC at the college level? He declined to go to San Francisco to be their DC but maybe he wants some experience doing it at the college level before he takes that on in the NFL? The only reason I'm mentioning it is because it would suck for the Texans to lose him as LB coach but then he's not going to do that forever probably. At some point his career path will take him to a DC job I think and if he thinks he might be ready that's a pretty easy choice to move to UH. No move for the family, no new house to buy or schools for the kids. You get to pick Romeo Crennel's brain over a beer after work when you need to. Seems like a nice fit.

On the other hand maybe Orlando would stay. With Oliver and the talent the Cougars have scooped up over the last two years he has a chance to be the coordinator of a seriously tough defense and that might lead to even better job offers/money than he's got now. Maybe even a HC gig somewhere? I'm just saying stranger things have happened.
 
Hervoyel said:
I have no idea but Applewhite has worked as an OC at a number of places and he's bound to have some connections so I would hope that we might be able to attract some good talent to replace what we lost. I'm sure Orlando goes and I bet he takes some guys with him. I was a bit surprised we didn't hire him for the HC spot if we were going to stay in-house. Applewhite isn't going back to UT anytime soon with that lawsuit still on the table and he'd have probably stayed with Orlando here. The other way around there's nothing to keep Orlando in Houston and I'm kind of surprised that they're talking about him staying to coach the defense in the bowl game.

I wonder if Vrabel might throw his hat into the ring to DC at the college level? He declined to go to San Francisco to be their DC but maybe he wants some experience doing it at the college level before he takes that on in the NFL? The only reason I'm mentioning it is because it would suck for the Texans to lose him as LB coach but then he's not going to do that forever probably. At some point his career path will take him to a DC job I think and if he thinks he might be ready that's a pretty easy choice to move to UH. No move for the family, no new house to buy or schools for the kids. You get to pick Romeo Crennel's brain over a beer after work when you need to. Seems like a nice fit.

On the other hand maybe Orlando would stay. With Oliver and the talent the Cougars have scooped up over the last two years he has a chance to be the coordinator of a seriously tough defense and that might lead to even better job offers/money than he's got now. Maybe even a HC gig somewhere? I'm just saying stranger things have happened.
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Though you make it sound good for Vrabel to take a DC job at UH, I just can't see that happening. I think, along with the bump in pay they gave him, the Texans have promised him the DC job here when RAC steps down. JMO!
 
The Oregon Ducks are targeting Charlie Strong for their defensive coordinator job. Any chance that Major Applewhite could pull some weight in that direction before it's too late?

I'd love to bring in a big name hire at D-Coordinator once Todd Orlando bolts to Texas to re-join Tom Herman's coaching staff. Charlie Strong was a great defensive coordinator at Florida before he became an interim head coach there, and then the head coach for Louisville and Texas.
 
WolverineFan said:
I would have preferred Orlando but not surprised they went with the offensive guy. I do prefer this hire over Kiffin. I think the negotiations with Kiffin proved he was just going to use UH to catapult up like Herman did and UH doesn't want that. Good on them to realize that and kick him to the curb for someone with less name brand but who will actually stick around.

Kiffin has more flash but personally I don't think he's a good HC. Good coordinator but doesn't have the right temperament to be a HC.
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Right now I don't have a problem with coaches using UH as a stepping stone. It means they've got to win if they're going to get that big job.

Now, put the Coogs in a power 5 conference with bigger money and a much more legitimate shot at a championship, and they become a much bigger job than they are now. Maybe then you get someone to stay for a while. Of course that could then lead to your Kansas, Kentucky and Northwestern's of the world.
 
I just don't have any hope of the Houston Cougars joining a power five conference anytime soon. I thought we had our best shot this past year and still the Big 12 declined to add us via expansion.

Had U of H been invited into the Big 12, that would have automatically triggered a $5 million salary bonus that Tom Herman had in his Houston contract. Plus an expected pay raise to go along with it. Tom Herman would have made more money staying in Houston over the next few years compared to what his current contract is paying him in Texas.

Everybody is calling the Big 12 expansion a sham now. And I thought people said that Texas voted "yes" for Houston joining the Big 12? Apparently they voted "no" along with TCU and OKlahoma. Fair enough though. Oklahoma was probably afraid we'd beat them every year, and Texas and TCU were probably afraid we'd steal their top recruits.

I'm over all that BS! Let's just focus on winning the American Athletic Conference every year. We couldn't even beat Navy. SMU or Memphis this past season. We didn't even play in our Conference Championship Game! So let's dominate the AAC, year in and year out, and maybe one day a power five conference will take notice and invite us.
 
Speedy said:
Right now I don't have a problem with coaches using UH as a stepping stone. It means they've got to win if they're going to get that big job.

Now, put the Coogs in a power 5 conference with bigger money and a much more legitimate shot at a championship, and they become a much bigger job than they are now. Maybe then you get someone to stay for a while. Of course that could then lead to your Kansas, Kentucky and Northwestern's of the world.
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I remember when the Coogs joined the SWC and won the conference championship the 1st yr and then preceded to be a top 10-20 team for many yrs. That and the fact that UH is a relatively low budget school compared to the Oklahoma/UT's of the world are what's keeping UH out of the power 5 conference school's.
 
Speedy said:
Right now I don't have a problem with coaches using UH as a stepping stone. It means they've got to win if they're going to get that big job.

Now, put the Coogs in a power 5 conference with bigger money and a much more legitimate shot at a championship, and they become a much bigger job than they are now. Maybe then you get someone to stay for a while. Of course that could then lead to your Kansas, Kentucky and Northwestern's of the world.
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I remember when the Coogs joined the SWC and won the conference championship the 1st yr and then preceded to be a top 10-20 team for many yrs. That and the fact that UH is a relatively low budget school compared to the Oklahoma/UT's of the world are what's keeping UH out of the power 5 conference school's. God blees Bill Yoeman/Guy V.
 
steelbtexan said:
I remember when the Coogs joined the SWC and won the conference championship the 1st yr and then preceded to be a top 10-20 team for many yrs. That and the fact that UH is a relatively low budget school compared to the Oklahoma/UT's of the world are what's keeping UH out of the power 5 conference school's. God blees Bill Yoeman/Guy V.
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University of Tex/Okla keeping Houston out of BIG12, because Houston area is rich in recruits. I think Houston is an ideal candidate to join the ACC.
 
Texian said:
University of Tex/Okla keeping Houston out of BIG12, because Houston area is rich in recruits. I think Houston is an ideal candidate to join the ACC.
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I think the PAC-12 is in play too. The commissioner said earlier this week that he could see them going to 16 teams eventually.
 
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