Jack Burton
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So by mid season Gannon will be fired by Cal and McClown can take over. 8 games should be enough experience to get their clown into the top spot.
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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22
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Porky
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Not sure who your source is but this makes little sense for multiple reasons. I am skeptical of this info. If it is true, this might be even worse than just hiring McCown as HC. And why the hell would KOC make a lateral move from a SB quality team with a high quality organization to this dumpster fire?
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frethack
Rookie
I think it's pretty simple to understand. Nick doesn't have the authority to make these decisions on his own. And he's the 4th wheel in the McCown-Jack-Cal love triangle.
Texian
Hall of Fame
This idea is actually moving along quicker than I first thought. I originally thought this might be a 4-to-5-year process. Still might. Here we are a couple of weeks into year 2 and the incompetence that is running the Houston Texans is already at an all-time high. The other McNair siblings should begin to start voicing their displeasure about the McNair family name being the butt of nonstop jokes, being constantly raked thru the mud and being an embarrassment to the city of Houston. If they haven't already. It should not be too long before the other 3 siblings start demanding their piece of the $2.5 BILLION pie from Mama so they can move on with their lives and divorce themselves from this family embarrassment.
This will eventually have to be sorted out. I'm sure Janice McNair would love to see her Baby Huey continue on as CEO. And I'm not so sure the other McNairs will be so ready to sell. An NFL franchise is a cash cow, and you can't buy a better investment. This has to hit rock bottom before a move to oust Cal is made. We're not there yet. But we can see rock bottom from here.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Everybody in the football world knew McDaniels, Mayo or another member of the New England fraternity would be the next Texans HC. It doesn't take a high IQ to figure out why no one from the New England fraternity has shown up for their interview. Some thought McDaniel wouldn't even have to interview. The way this works is if you've been requested to interview for the HC job with the Houston Texans, it is common procedure and professional protocol to respond with a yes or no. If the answer is yes, we would know about it. If the answer is no, we would not.
Jack Burton
Veteran
Agreed. This has become a massive embarrassment.
It’s time to sell. And there are investors who are ready.
Call the Manning’s and get it done.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Look at it from a McNair sibling point of view. Would you want to continue with this constant cash cow embarrassing headache? Or would you want your $500,000,000 and move on from this nightmare? Their share could be closer to $1 Billion if they were to get $4 Billion for the franchise. As the saying goes, money talks and BS walks.
The big concern for me is Janice and Game Boy might think everything is wonderful, moving in the right direction and are oblivious to all outside noise. Then I'm back at my 4-to-5-year prediction.
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
There is an avid group of people who are part of the Chicken Little Peckers Group. The sky is always falling. Always making up stuff.
If that means I am Kool Aid member i really don’t care.
What makes you think this will happen. McCown as OC or QB coach with Gannon as HC, I think I would be on board with that.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Let's be honest here. You are going to be on board with anything that Caserio does.
TexansBull
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Let’s be honest here. You are going to be against anything Texans/Caserio does.
Where am I putting my $$$$ that would be better than an NFL franchise? I would expect the rest of the siblings to attempt to convince Mom that a new leader for the organization is needed for the sake of the franchise's value. If that doesn't work, then wait until the team is bequeathed to the heirs and oust Cal on their own.
michaelm
vox nihili
You act like you actually believe this board runs the Texans
Texian
Hall of Fame
"I have no evidence" is spelled = DENIAL.
Jack Burton
Veteran
The whole time Gannon is looking over his shoulder waiting for that tap by Easterby to come have a talk in his office, knowing he’s getting the axe so McClown can be installed.
The whole thing is a fustercluck, and it’s because of the owners ineptitude and loon personal ideology.
Question.
Was their any other NFL teams that interviewed McClown for ANY positions?
Was their a college who interviewed McClown for ANY positions?
Was their even a high school who interviewed McClown for ANY coaching positions?
Yes, this is ridiculously stupid.
Yes, the owners are idiots and need to sell the team.
And the football world is wrong.
The way you're setting up this narrative, if Caserio had hired 1 of the Foxboro guys you would be against it, but since Caserio didn't (As of now) hire a Foxboro guy the Texans org is a bunch of babbling idiots.
Me I'm just gonna wait and see who Cal/Caserio hires before I even start to make a judgement, and probably wont make that judgement for 2 or 3 yrs.
I dont think Gannon will be looking over his shoulder. As a 39 yr old HC I think this is a long term hire and just remember, right or wrong Gannon is a John Carroll graduate.
Nope, I'm certainly not on board with hiring McCown as HC.
But I notice you didn't answer the question I asked.
Texian
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There was no ? in your post.
It as directed at Jack Burton, he said if Gannon was hired that he would always be looking over his shoulder and would be fired 8 games into the season if McCown was hired as OC/QB coach.
I thought since you got in on that conversation you would give us your thoughts. Sorry about that.
That would be wrong. Gannon went to Louisville, not John Carroll. Someone posted this on twitter and it just snowballed.
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michaelm
vox nihili
I'm not necessarily arguing against the concept that a NE guy was asked and declined.
I'm just not the fan of stating speculation as confirmed fact as you seem to be.
Gannon looks like he & Nick would hang out
Why in the world would O'Connell want to come here as OC for a guy just as unqualified as he is?
austins23
Hall of Fame
Love me some Beth! I bet she’d look hawt with a headset on…. Just sayinThere is an avid group of people who are part of the Chicken Little Peckers Group. The sky is always falling. Always making up stuff.
If that means I am Kool Aid member i really don’t care.
I doubt Harbaugh or Reid felt threatened by Culley when he was AHC.
I know we're talking about all the unconventional things this franchise does, but so far it looks like all the speculation was false.
They did not bring Culley in as a place holder for McDaniels, or Mayo. They did not at any time consider Josh McCown as a HC candidate.
That is if they bring in Gannon in & McCown under him.
Likewise, if they do this, the expectation would be just as conventional. Meaning Gannon is not a place holder. They expect him to win championships in Houston.
They're not looking forward to the day McCown becomes their HC anymore than Kyle Shanahan was expecting Demeco to replace Saleh.
It might happen, but it's not the plan.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
If he gets the ASST HC title its technically a promotion and not a lateral move. I think he would be receptive to the move assuming he is not a final candidate from other teams this hiring cycle for another major reason… control of play calling.
There is a reason Bienemy hasn’t been hired besides allegedly being a poor interview. Reid calls the plays and that aint changing.
O’Connell would be thought of as a one or two year rental depending on how the Texans play. Gets the playcalling experience and hopefully much improved Texans offense on his resume and he’ll get a HC job faster than someone like Bienemy who we all know is less highly regarded because the Chiefs offense runs through Reid, Mahomes, Hill and Kelce (which 31 other teams don’t have).
Sounds like we’re playing Madden with a coaching staff and in that case i’d like Mccown to get his foot in the door as the QB coach to take over for O’Connell when he moves on in a year or two. I don’t think too many folks would object to that triumvirate.
Am I correct in the conclusion that Kevin O'Connell has yet to have a formal interview ?
michaelm
vox nihili
Honest question, has there ever been a OC or DC that moved to a new team, being elevated to Asst HC?
I can't think of any
Texazan
Our HOF 34
I hear he's a swell guy although he can become a little unhinged at the drop of the hat, nonsensical, can be stubborn and reportedly spends way too much time on his laptop arguing with people he can't see.
Had a formal interview but no one is sure exactly when
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Remember our previous coaches, Kubiak & O'Brien were pretty much HC of the offense. Wade or Romeo were pretty much HC defense. Both Romeo & Wade had the AHC title.
Maybe that's what Caserio is is trying to build & the HC title is only ceremonial
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Porky
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100% correct. As to your first point, I've made it a couple of times elsewhere in this discussion. Easter Bunny will be working to undermine the HC and get McClown installed as HC ASAP. Not a single doubt in my mind on that point. This is why I've stated the only thing worse than naming McCown as HC is to name him as QB coach/OC.
* To be clear, my reference to McClown is not a personal knock on JM. It's a nod to the clusterf*ck and clown show aka as the Houston Texans and their HC search.
Money & if he's given the AHC title it is not a lateral move, even though it is.
This guy spent a lot of time with the WFT. He might be one of those guys who don't feel right unless he's dodging bullets.
They could have knocked off the dust on Urban Meyer & made him our HC & you guys would manage to paint that as a "massive embarrassment.
Wait a minute
Are any of the other prospective head coach applicants promoters of the West Coast offense ?
If Gannon takes the job & McCown is given the AHC title I'm going to believe, as I already do, that this paradigm in which you speculate is utter nonsense.
No way Gannon takes this job if that were the atmosphere in Houston
Josh McCown
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
My feeling…..if Bald Heysus forces Caserio to accept McCown as HC and gets the McNair’s on board, this just might be the time Caserio tells Cal to go duck himself. Bald Heysus becomes the new GM and is making the calls come the 2022 NFL Draft.
There are literally $millions of reasons that won't happen.
GameBoy may be dense, but he'll never make Easterby GM again. Janice would slit his throat with her own hands.
Hasn't been an issue with Cal so far. He's paying a buttload of people right now not to do their job.
This situation is untenable ! There's no rational way to approach it. What a disappointment !
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
I’ve always called him McClown and will continue to.
And your grasping desperately.
He has no business in any capacity as a HC and it’s a laughably bad take.
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Not reaching, just stating facts. I did not say I wanted him as a head coach, just correcting you on bad players are generally better coaches (with experience), and I think his resume as a human/player does not justify calling him a clown. Cal is the clown. You do you, this is a message board so every take is valid, but think he would be a good coach with experience, which he should get before being the head coach
Brisco_County
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CloakNNNdagger
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O'Connell has not had the experience of calling plays............Sean McVay has always called his own plays, and this would be a way to get from under McVay's shadow and prove himself as a playcaller. And BTW, O'Connell and Gannon are best friends.