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Ed Reed agrees to terms with Texans
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Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Reed make up your mind.I for one do not care for a DB that is not certain of what he is doing.
BOOM!!!!!!
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tru80texan
Waterboy
May be the most attractive, but doesn't mean he will sign it. Lets not forget that Asomugha, by his own admission, left the most attractive deal on the table to sign w/ the Eagles whom he thought had a better chance to win it all. Who says Reed won't do the same to stay w/ the only team he has known as a pro. I believe it's time to put Reed's feet to fire & do what's best for the Texans before they are left w/ scraps.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Another team offered Asomugha more than $60 million?
It would make sense that Smith knew what the Ravens were willing to pay before he made his offer. The meeting was: "Here's what we think of you, here's how you fit what we do, here's what we're willing to pay you." It wasn't part of a multi bid process. It was one shot. Smith does not make that shot unless he knows what cards the other players are holding.
tru80texan
Waterboy
It's been discussed on here recently & links were provided where Asomugha was quoted as saying he left more money on the table from another team, rumored to have possibly been the Texans, to sign w/ the Eagles because he felt they could win it all. Hardly new news there.
As far as Smith knowing what the Ravens are doing...I have my doubts on that. Smith may know their salary cap issues & could speculate what they are willing to offer, but I doubt he knows how much a team values each player. It's seems obvious Reed is still trying to get more players involved & he still isn't getting what he wants so I believe all it takes is slight bump up by the Ravens & he is back home IMO. Time will tell, but the more time that is wasted leads to a higher probability that the Texans will be left w/ very limited alternatives if Reed chooses to stay a Raven. It's time to move on real soon IMO.
GNTLEWOLF
Rookie
I'm pretty amazed that we have spent so much time and ink on this thread. I believe most of us doubted this would be a deal that could get done when we heard about it. And now that things have transpired the way they have it looks more and more like this was yet one more Texans pipe dream. Should be no surprise or disappointment we have seen this scenerio played out at least two or three times before. Reed is not coming here.
SCOTTexans
Rookie
Everytime i get on this MB i am forced to look at this thread, getting a new page added every hr you would think there would be some new info about the potential signing.... but no its just pages and pages of useless assumptions and uncreditable sources.
htowntexans1985
1st Round Pick
Reed just wants the ravens to stroke his ego. He will take less money to return to the ravens when its all said and Done. He has ratbird DNA embedded in him!
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Señor Stan
El Guapo
Dude, we are not even close to Moulds thread territory. Not to mention the Nnamdi Asomugha thread from a couple years back.
I'm still upset that I had to learn to spell Nnamdi Asomugha....
yep. This is what I believe, as well. The Texans had the stink of desperation on this one. Reed is playing Houston to sweeten a deal with Baltimore. I won't speculate if he was seriously interested in coming here, but it would not surprise me at all if he never had any intention of being a Houston Texan.
Baltimore is playing Reed too. If they sign Huff, then Reed isnt going back.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
They aren't signing Huff until Reed decides. They are just using Huff to lower the price on Reed. Huff would cost what, maybe 2-3m a year? They are going to say to Reed's agent, "we can get Huff for 2.5m a year for 2 years, but we're willing to give you 9m for 2 years." Give him one last chance and force him to decide. Right now, the Ravens haven't shut the door on Reed, so he's still hoping he can get more out of them.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
I'd like for the Texans to sign somebody before Reed signs with the Ravens. Or at least formally announce that we are no longer interested. Whatever it takes to help the Ravens stick it to him and lowball him.
(Not really as I think he'll be a good addition here)
Then the Texans need to start meeting with other free agents like Baltimore is doing. Reed thinks he holds all the leverage because the Texans havent met with anyone else.
I don't see how the texans are desperate. They are courting a guy they want. They aren't openly bending over backwards and giving in to his every desire...
Do they want reed?
Sure.
But that doesn't mean they're desperate.
When you are going after someone you like and you do nice things for them that doesn't make them desperate. Just means you like them.
Do they want reed?
Sure.
But that doesn't mean they're desperate.
When you are going after someone you like and you do nice things for them that doesn't make them desperate. Just means you like them.
SAMURAITEXAN
All Pro
I am not protecting Reed or anything but, football is player's profession right? Just like you and I almost all of us have job (some maybe already retired or some are student and do not have a permanent job) whatever that occupation would be. What I am trying to say is don't we all try to make much income as possible to have a good life? This is what Reed is doing. Trying to maximize his income while he can as he is nearing an end of his career.
Our FO invited him to come to Houston for contract negotiation and Reed came here to see what Texans' FO got to offer and an offer he received wasn't what Reed expected. So naturally, Reed was interested in other option to see if there's better offer out there and at the same time, he can figure out his current value. Once all he sees all the cards, he will choose his preferable team. Especially this would be Reed's last dance and I can understand he wants to make sure to see every available option.
You see, buyers like bargain and sellers like more profits. It is all business.
Our FO invited him to come to Houston for contract negotiation and Reed came here to see what Texans' FO got to offer and an offer he received wasn't what Reed expected. So naturally, Reed was interested in other option to see if there's better offer out there and at the same time, he can figure out his current value. Once all he sees all the cards, he will choose his preferable team. Especially this would be Reed's last dance and I can understand he wants to make sure to see every available option.
You see, buyers like bargain and sellers like more profits. It is all business.
tru80texan
Waterboy
I agree 100%. This will at least allow the Texans an opportunity to show others they are interested & take the ball out of Reed's court some. It seems he's holding up the process in hopes of getting something better & the Texans seem to be allowing it as other options are being signed away. Baltimore seems to be doing the smart thing by having other options ready while the Texans FO is...well...being the Texans.
The Texans did the very thing you're criticizing them for not doing with Namdi, whose to say they're not doing it again right now with Reed? Many fans complained they were putting all their eggs in one basket with Namdi then out of the blue we signed JJoseph and Manning. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened here. Despite what many here think Smith isn't stupid
I think it's only normal to be impatient.
After all, people just want to see their team get better.
A GM is going to be criticized no matter what; it goes with the territory.
They are all optional for us, but not for Reed. The only thing that's not optional for us is the guaranteed coin, and don't know how much of that 12 M is guaranteed ?
Agreed. Hell, I want us to pick up some players to fill some needs as well. I just think fans should wait until the process is over to criticize the FO
tru80texan
Waterboy
I'm hoping you are right, but have you read anywhere that another FA has been contacted or on a visit here. I know I haven't. FA visits or contact w/ them is hardly top secret. Its normally reported on who is talking to whom & that simply isn't happening much w/ the Texans. It could be happening again & time will tell, but I don't think missing on Reed while other quality safeties are signed away & going to a fallback option such as Sensabaugh is a grand master plan that falls in line w/ the JJo Manning signings.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Señor Stan;2139798 said:
But it brings you one step closer to being a citizen of the world.
tru80texan
Waterboy
I don't think they consider NT a need as far as a starter. I think they believe Mitchell can be just as effective as Cody & they were satisfied w/ Cody for the last few seasons. Not saying I agree, but I do think Mitchell can at least equal Cody's production if not produce slightly more.
I also believe that they believe a healthy Sharpton could be a decent option at ILB. I like Sharpton when he is healthy, but he seems to be bit by the injury bug quite often. I dont trust his health & wish they would look at other options as well, but this is the same group that thought James was a worthy starter so going in w/ an injury prone Sharpton wouldn't surprise me.
I really find it odd that Woodson hasn't come in yet. I thought he was scheduled for Friday (thought I heard/read that somewhere).
We should at least announce that Woodson is scheduled to come in this week & Bob is fueling up the jet.
Tell Reed to sh1t, or get off the pot.
No, I think the big difference here, is that Reed is not the top rated safety available, Nnamdi was the top CB.
No one was signing the other top CBs before Nnamdi, Ike Taylor was still out there, Jjoseph was still out there, & there was someone else.
As soon as we signed Jjoseph, it seemed the dominoes started to fall & the other corners started signing.
This time, the fans aren't even expecting the top safety, they'd have been happy with Huff, Landry and a few others who were already signed.... Quin. We're giving Reed, & even Woodson if it comes to that, the benefit of the doubt, even though they're older than dirt (apparently there's a bunch of 34 year old dirt out there).
So, I don't think it's impatient, all the decent talent is being signed while we wait.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Mitchel could not beat out Cody with his back injuries and even when Cody went out with the ribs, he was rushed back to replace Mitchell. As I noted on another thread I think Phillips is okay with Mitchell starting. Not comparing my knowledge to Wade but think he is wrong. Agree with you on SHarpton who cannot stay on field.
ASidd_1990
Waterboy
Let Cody walk trade up for Jessie Williams. Dude is a gamechanger at the NT position.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I don't see anything desperate in the way the FO is handling this.
The FANS are the desperate ones here. They're the ones getting jittery because no one has been signed, yet.
Our FO? Cool. Doesn't appear to be worried at all. Methodical. Taking its time. If our FO was desperate, we would have already caved in to get Reed here. We would have offered him 7 mil a year for 3 years and he would have taken that back to the Ravens to say, "See? I am highly valued around the league" and then he would have accepted less money to play with the Ravens.
There's still a long time to go and a lot of moves to be made. Personally, if it's down between Woodson and Reed, I'd probably go Woodson. I'm just not sure how much more Reed's got in the tank and I think Woodson has more to give.
The FANS are the desperate ones here. They're the ones getting jittery because no one has been signed, yet.
Our FO? Cool. Doesn't appear to be worried at all. Methodical. Taking its time. If our FO was desperate, we would have already caved in to get Reed here. We would have offered him 7 mil a year for 3 years and he would have taken that back to the Ravens to say, "See? I am highly valued around the league" and then he would have accepted less money to play with the Ravens.
There's still a long time to go and a lot of moves to be made. Personally, if it's down between Woodson and Reed, I'd probably go Woodson. I'm just not sure how much more Reed's got in the tank and I think Woodson has more to give.
Craig.
Nosebleeds
You realize Woodson is older than Reed, right?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Yes.
I think Woodson could give us 1 good year. I don't think Reed has a full year left in him.
Either way, I expect us to draft a safety and I expect that safety to be starting in 2014. I don't think we're signing either Woodson or Reed expecting them to play longer than a year.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Curious as to how you decided Reed has only part of a season left in him? He had a very decent 2012.
ASidd_1990
Waterboy
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
ASidd_1990
Waterboy
Whats going with this thread?
tru80texan
Waterboy
Ed Reed - DB - Ravens
NFL.com reports the Ravens are "very pessimistic" about re-signing free agent Ed Reed.
Per reporter Ian Rapoport, the "belief" is that Reed is now seeking $4 million per year, but that it's "doubtful" the Ravens meet that price. $4 million is believed to be what the Texans are offering, so it could be only a matter of time before Reed stops peddling his wares and takes his talents his Houston.
Related: Texans
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Mar 20 - 2:50 PM
Hopefully this drama comes to end soon & the Texans can possibly look into other areas of concern. "Hopefully" being the key word.
NFL.com reports the Ravens are "very pessimistic" about re-signing free agent Ed Reed.
Per reporter Ian Rapoport, the "belief" is that Reed is now seeking $4 million per year, but that it's "doubtful" the Ravens meet that price. $4 million is believed to be what the Texans are offering, so it could be only a matter of time before Reed stops peddling his wares and takes his talents his Houston.
Related: Texans
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Mar 20 - 2:50 PM
Hopefully this drama comes to end soon & the Texans can possibly look into other areas of concern. "Hopefully" being the key word.
BigB0iFresh
Waterboy
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m
My understanding of the Ed Reed situation: He'll have to take less money to return to #Ravens. #Texans offering more than Baltimore.
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My understanding of the Ed Reed situation: He'll have to take less money to return to #Ravens. #Texans offering more than Baltimore.
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ASidd_1990
Waterboy
So the Ravens were offering him a deal less than $4 million/per year?
If that's the case, welcome to Houston, Ed Reed!
If that's the case, welcome to Houston, Ed Reed!
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
I would be very supportive of the 3 year 12 million deal being floated around. Would like to know the guaranteed portion and years 1-2 pmt/cap hits. I'd be very pleased with this and the ability to cut him after year 2 with little cap ramifications.
Still crossing fingers. Love how Rick and Olsen are holding firm.
Still crossing fingers. Love how Rick and Olsen are holding firm.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I didn't think he had that good of a 2012. Although he had plays here and there, he wasn't as consistent or nearly as good as he'd been in previous seasons.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Yeah. Someone said it's related to deleted posts.