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Ed Reed agrees to terms with Texans

Guys it's obvious this Ravens fan is just a little butthurt to potentially see Ed Reed in another uniform regardless of how old he is or if his skills have diminished. It's exactly the same way we will be when/if Andre ever plays for another franchise.

Don't feed the troll.
 
handswarmer said:
Awesome- I hope you get to see Molly Ringwalds panties stime soon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQ-frSG5Gs
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Its gonna be ok...
 
b0ng said:
Nobody here thought Pollard was a cancer, he just couldn't cover to save his life, which was especially bad next to Ewwwwwwwwwwwgene Wilson's ghost of a career.

Now you are straight making stuff up.

edit: lol triple beaten
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Yeah, handswarmer....you're reaching a bit now.

Look, we get it: Flacco needed the pat on the back. But they're jettisoning like 6 players now. Major players. Happens to all Super Bowl teams the following year: They lose a lot of players. Everyone gets their payday after a SB win.

Pollard was risky for us. He plays way too hot. He's like a cartridge that's had maybe too much gunpowder packed into it for the corresponding rifle barrel it's being put through. You might get a hotter round, and yet you might also get a busted rifle too.

Good on the Ravens for gambling and succeeding with Pollard. Good on the Ravens for gambling on Jacoby and succeeding there, as well. We might be gambling on Ed Reed, and it may or not pay off for us.

But our hands are tied. Might as well focus on what positives Ed Reed brings, knowing that it's either him or some guy on our roster named Shiloh Keo whom if you knew our team you'd know you DO NOT WANT him as your safety. Not even if you were playing a Pop Warner team.
 
deucetx said:
umm...this articulates what others are saying. It states his leadership and how he recognized issues and voiced them. That is what leaders do. Followers sit there on their hands saying nothing. Leaders on the football team should speak openly to the coach to discuss issues that coaches may not see because coaches don't see it all or know it all. That is why you want leaders on your team to be that voice, be those eyes and be that bridge between player and coach.

Don't remember anyone believing Pollard was a cancer. Maybe some did, who knows. The main and general thought was he couldn't cover in the way Wade utilizes his safeties and was strictly a box safety.
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Pollard did almost kill Kareem Jackson's career in less than four months. Once he was cut, Jackson began to get healthy... So, Maybe cancer is the right word to use to describe him (I'm imagining Arnold, "it's not a tuumahh")
 
handswarmer said:
They won't look smart back there when Ed gambles and misses like he does about 60-65% ofthe time...
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So Reed isn't a smart player? That is seriously the first time I heard someone even infer that.

Are they gambles? Yes they are, but such is the life of a playmaking player in the secondary. Great players take gambles and when those gambles pay off they pay off big don't they?

Quin wouldn't take the gamble and at times be in the wrong place. QBs like Brady had no fear going deep on the Texans, for Brady just hurry up to the line and throw one 40 yards down the field because you know the Texans won't be prepared.

deucetx said:
umm...this articulates what others are saying. It states his leadership and how he recognized issues and voiced them. That is what leaders do. Followers sit there on their hands saying nothing. Leaders on the football team should speak openly to the coach to discuss issues that coaches may not see because coaches don't see it all or know it all. That is why you want leaders on your team to be that voice, be those eyes and be that bridge between player and coach.

Don't remember anyone believing Pollard was a cancer. Maybe some did, who knows. The main and general thought was he couldn't cover in the way Wade utilizes his safeties and was strictly a box safety.
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Pretty much.

That tells me all I need to know. I wish our guys had a pow wow after getting smacked by the Packers and Patriots.

Well I know they did after the first Patriots game, but after the Packers game it seemed to be a lot of ho hum just one loss thing.
 
GP said:
Fine, you seem to think that your cast-offs are **** and anybody getting your scraps is just living outside of reality. Fine. .

A lot can happen with any player. The Colts dropped Manning like 2-week old fish....


So please, enjoy the discussion (like we know we do among ourselves), but every single comment from you has been snarky and full of sarcasm and contempt for any Texans' poster's responses to why Ed Reed might not be a bad deal for us.

You have to consider the circumstances, which all teams must. Right? Right.
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I never said that- its jus that you guys (in general) and a lot of other fans get all juiced up in March about another teams cuts or release...whatever. History tends to be on theside of the Ravens when players leave here in FA- plaers chase the money and rarely measure up.

Colts had the luxury of dropping Manning wit the 1st pick in their back pocket.

Snaky> Full of sarcasm? Contempt? Hardly....guess I should be signing Kumbaya in each post? Nah, not my style....

(Oh, sorry- that was :sarcasm:)
 
handswarmer said:
"It's been widely reported, dissected and then anointed (in retrospect) as the turning point in Baltimore's season. Ravens coach John Harbaugh had what felt like a mutiny on his hands. The 50-year-old coach told his players he wanted to begin preparation for Baltimore's game against the Cleveland Browns by practicing in full pads, a rarity for a midseason Wednesday in the NFL, and his players -- still feeling battered and bruised -- were furious. Lewis was in Florida rehabbing his torn triceps, so it was Reed and Bernard Pollard who openly confronted their coach in front of the team, kicking off what players have described as a "group therapy session" in which they were able to air a number of grievances and frustrations."

And now Pollard is released. You guys didn't like Pollard and thought he was a cancer. Now you want Ed Reed.
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Straight up BS. Enjoy the reds.

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Mari-OWNED! said:
Guys it's obvious this Ravens fan is just a little butthurt to potentially see Ed Reed in another uniform regardless of how old he is or if his skills have diminished. It's exactly the same way we will be when/if Andre ever plays for another franchise.

Don't feed the troll.
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That's true to an extent. He's getting a but unnerved right now, prior to today he's been quality people on here.

thunderkyss said:
To all you "handswarmer is good people" people... I mean is this really necessary?
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Eh, today he's just getting riled up. He doesn't like other teams' fans stating things about his players just like we do when other teams' fans say things about our players on our end. It's natural.

But yeah, today he's getting a bit unnerved. He has Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, and Torrey Smith left on the roster...and not much else. He's staring at maybe the end of the Ravens chances, while watching the Broncos and Dolphins get better...knowing the Patriots are still led by Brady and a cast of role players who just keep that machine chugging along no matter what. So for him to see Ed Reed wheeling and dealing, he's got to be a bit unsettled and has to resort to some coping mechanisms to get by. ;)

Nobody likes it when the party ends and the images fade away into the past. Ed Reed is not a 4 or 5-year guy for ANY team. He's a rental, but he's still Ed Reed and that makes most QBs hesitate to throw his way. Especially if there's Danieal Manning, KJ, and J-Jo also in the mix. And McCain our nickel DB to add to the mix. Not too bad. Ed Reed on a bad secondary would be bad. Ed Reed on THIS secondary can manage to hold it down OK.
 
Mari-OWNED! said:
Guys it's obvious this Ravens fan is just a little butthurt to potentially see Ed Reed in another uniform regardless of how old he is or if his skills have diminished. It's exactly the same way we will be when/if Andre ever plays for another franchise.

Don't feed the troll.
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Tts what you fail to understand- I don't care if he stays OR if he goes: I, for one am tired of his waffling after every season.

But hey, :koolaid: have another sip....
 
handswarmer said:
I never said that- its jus that you guys (in general) and a lot of other fans get all juiced up in March about another teams cuts or release...whatever. History tends to be on theside of the Ravens when players leave here in FA- plaers chase the money and rarely measure up.

Colts had the luxury of dropping Manning wit the 1st pick in their back pocket.

Snaky> Full of sarcasm? Contempt? Hardly....guess I should be signing Kumbaya in each post? Nah, not my style....

(Oh, sorry- that was :sarcasm:)
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I won't even bother reading. You know you're being snarky.

If everyone on here is getting after your ass, you know you've overstepped boundaries. Even DutchRudder negg'd you and he doesn't neg people.

Just sayin'....it's possible to lose yourself for a second and go down that lonesome road. You're about a mile and a quarter down that road today.

Is what it is. I've positive rep'd you before, I've defended you a lot before, but now you're sort of being a dick here. Sorry, that's life.
 
b0ng said:
I was pretty sure Manning is our FS here, and was a big reason of why he came here?
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But isn't Ed to old and brittle to play box-safety where he'd be up close to the los where all of the contact happens ?
 
handswarmer said:
I never said that- its jus that you guys (in general) and a lot of other fans get all juiced up in March about another teams cuts or release...whatever. History tends to be on theside of the Ravens when players leave here in FA- plaers chase the money and rarely measure up.

Colts had the luxury of dropping Manning wit the 1st pick in their back pocket.

Snaky> Full of sarcasm? Contempt? Hardly....guess I should be signing Kumbaya in each post? Nah, not my style....

(Oh, sorry- that was :sarcasm:)
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The Texans have not had many bad FA signings either so I'm not sure what that is about.

Yall should have fun with Jacoby in a bigger role though without Boldin, good luck with that.
 
thunderkyss said:
To all you "handswarmer is good people" people... I mean is this really necessary?
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O cheese and rice, tell me you are kidding? Look who now doesn't have a sense of humor....



Dutchrudder said:
The guy just doesn't have much of a sense of humor. From what I have seen, his sarcasm detector has been broken since he got here.
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I don't ass/u/me anythig. Hard to measure toneof voice on a message board, but please, judge me all you want...
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks we would over pay him.

6. His beard
7. Looking like a homeless man because or 5 and 6.


Seriously, if he comes in for a lower figure one year or two year deal, sure. We're already cap strapped and I don't want to through a Brink's truck at him. If his contract any where nears GQ I would much rather have kept GQ.
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Totally agree because of his age and injury history.
 
handswarmer said:
Wow- can't believe they let you post from the Middle school computer lab.
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handswarmer said:
Awesome- I hope you get to see Molly Ringwalds panties stime soon!
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Speaking of getting your panties in a twist, don't come to TT throwing your SB ring wearing player under the bus because he's signing here and expect eveyone to bow down to you "balanced" opinion.
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Go talk sh!t about Ed Reed on the Ravens forum. :tiphat:
 
fiasco west said:
Pretty much.

That tells me all I need to know. I wish our guys had a pow wow after getting smacked by the Packers and Patriots.

Well I know they did after the first Patriots game, but after the Packers game it seemed to be a lot of ho hum just one loss thing.
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The difference here, is that Ed Reed & his merry band of followers were voicing their frustrations to their HC. I know there are a number of Houston Texans fans who would love for our team to get together & say, "No.... we're not turtling up anymore. Let us loose, let us throttle them MFers."

Personally, I don't think Gary is a control freak. I think he's waiting for the team to nutt up & take control, especially Matt Schaub. You can put David Carr into a leadership role (QB) but that doesn't make him a leader. Before I give leadership to a QB, I want to know he's willing to do what he thinks is best & own up to it if it turns out to be a mistake.
 
Playoffs said:
Speaking of getting your panties in a twist, don't come to TT throwing your SB ring wearing player under the bus because he's signing here and expect eveyone to bow down to you "balanced" opinion.
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Go talk sh!t about Ed Reed on the Ravens forum. :tiphat:
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Thanks for the warm welcome- I am glad to say that I am staying....
 
Ed Reed Makes Sense for the Texans

Complaining is easy. Pointing out problems is even easier. Texans management is paid to do neither. They are tasked with finding solutions for current problems, and avoiding future issues. In that context, let’s look at their decision to let Glover Quin walk, and make a run at Edward Earl Reed, Jr.
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He's something cool:

We are attracting a veteran, future HoF player looking to win one more championship... Why us? because Baltimore's been gutted and the Texans look like his best option to get paid and play for a winner.

Next up- James Harrison and Marcus Spears flocking to Houston for vet minimum. It's a new world!
 
GP said:
I won't even bother reading. You know you're being snarky.

If everyone on here is getting after your ass, you know you've overstepped boundaries. Even DutchRudder negg'd you and he doesn't neg people.

Just sayin'....it's possible to lose yourself for a second and go down that lonesome road. You're about a mile and a quarter down that road today.

Is what it is. I've positive rep'd you before, I've defended you a lot before, but now you're sort of being a dick here. Sorry, that's life.
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M, I feel better afdter that 'talking to'...thaks for saving my azz....

swhew....:user:
 
GP said:
Manning and Reed at Safety.

KJ and Joseph at Cornerback.

Tell me a better FOUR-MAN secondary than that.

QBs picked on us because of two things: (1) Manning playing up inside the box more, due to loss of Cushing, and (2) Quin being left on his own.

If Cushing can last all season, if we can draft a thumper LB to pair alongside Cushing (because frankly, Bradie James is not that guy), then we have the following:

Front 3: Smith, Cody/Mitchell, Watt (With Crick getting more snaps in 2013)

LBs: Cushing, Drafted LB/James, Reed, Braman, Mercilus

CBs: Joseph, Jackson

S: Manning, Reed

That leaves us with the opportunity to target a LB on draft day, giving us flexibility to do whatever is best in round 1....be it a WR, or a LB, or a S to groom for Ed Reed's spot (who would be a better teacher than Ed Reed???).

Round 2 and 3 and 4 we can take whatever is best there for us, given the way the picks fall. Beef up whatever it is the Texans want to beef up.

We could even package picks and move up if wanted to, though that's not Rick Smith's style (he openly says he wants to collect picks as much as possible).

Overall, signing Ed Reed could be an upgrade over Quin regardless of disparity of age and mileage.

I look at that defense, and if we could get stronger on the DL or the LB positions, I look for Wade's defense to return to 2011 levels of consistency and production. Losing Cushing made Watt do much more than he should've been asked to do, and it cost us in the secondary via Manning playing down low too much. All in all, I don't think this is wrist-slitting time if we sign Ed Reed.

The big question will be (1) How do we add a GOOD wide receiver, and (2) Does that happen by restructuring our own guys' contracts to get a FA in here, or do we (3) Go draft day and try to gamble on a rookie being able to instantly be WR2???
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I'll go with door #3. Robert Woods and my favorite, DeAndre Hopkins. Both fluid route runners with strong hands. A few others that have been mocked or talked about in regard to the Texans are Da'Rick Rodgers (steelb's fav), Marcus Wheaton and Quinton Patton. Surely outta those guys Gary or Rick will find one they both like on day one.

Now back on topic. Not sure if Ed's pulling a Bodden/Pace move or not but something tells me he's not. If he signs I hope it works out like many think it will.
 
dalemurphy said:
He's something cool:

We are attracting a veteran, future HoF player looking to win one more championship... Why us? because Baltimore's been gutted and the Texans look like his best option to get paid and play for a winner.

Next up- James Harrison and Marcus Spears flocking to Houston for vet minimum. It's a new world!
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Or, he wanted to come South, is friends with AJ and has family in La

He's accomplished everything. He just wants to come home and make money doing it. Just hope his heart's still in it
 
GP said:
That's true to an extent. He's getting a but unnerved right now, prior to today he's been quality people on here.

Eh, today he's just getting riled up. He doesn't like other teams' fans stating things about his players just like we do when other teams' fans say things about our players on our end. It's natural.
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He's always getting butt hurt. Say that Anquan Bolden had to adjust to a lot of balls & he'll go on to tell you Flacco threw the ball like that on purpose, or they practiced it that way.....

Who cares, that's not the point. We're in a conversation where the topic is "top receivers know how to adjust to the ball" who cares about Flacco (at that point).

Then when you say Flacco is a great QB, he's upset because you didn't say "Flacco is a GREAT QB"



GP said:
Ed Reed is not a 4 or 5-year guy for ANY team. He's a rental, but he's still Ed Reed and that makes most QBs hesitate to throw his way. Especially if there's Danieal Manning, KJ, and J-Jo also in the mix. And McCain our nickel DB to add to the mix. Not too bad. Ed Reed on a bad secondary would be bad. Ed Reed on THIS secondary can manage to hold it down OK.
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100% agree. If this was the Ravens defense, Ed Reed wouldn't be much help. A shell of himself. ON our defense, he shouldn't need the range he had when he was 26. He shouldn't need the burst of a 20something.
 
handswarmer said:
Thanks for the warm welcome- I am glad to say that I am staying....
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Glad to hear it. You're good with me. I like what you bring to the table. Don't let these guys make you snap though. Keep it together. I really enjoy having insightful conversations with opposing fans.

Go Texans!
 
thunderkyss said:
The difference here, is that Ed Reed & his merry band of followers were voicing their frustrations to their HC. I know there are a number of Houston Texans fans who would love for our team to get together & say, "No.... we're not turtling up anymore. Let us loose, let us throttle them MFers."

Personally, I don't think Gary is a control freak. I think he's waiting for the team to nutt up & take control, especially Matt Schaub. You can put David Carr into a leadership role (QB) but that doesn't make him a leader. Before I give leadership to a QB, I want to know he's willing to do what he thinks is best & own up to it if it turns out to be a mistake.
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I agree and I don't think that is a bad thing.

dalemurphy said:
He's something cool:

We are attracting a veteran, future HoF player looking to win one more championship... Why us? because Baltimore's been gutted and the Texans look like his best option to get paid and play for a winner.

Next up- James Harrison and Marcus Spears flocking to Houston for vet minimum. It's a new world!
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Don't know about Spears but I'll take Harrison too lol.

A vet on a short deal, I don't see how that is a bad thing. We'll have a influx of young players every year.
 
thunderkyss said:
He's always getting butt hurt. Say that Anquan Bolden had to adjust to a lot of balls & he'll go on to tell you Flacco threw the ball like that on purpose, or they practiced it that way.....

Who cares, that's not the point. We're in a conversation where the topic is "top receivers know how to adjust to the ball" who cares about Flacco (at that point).

Then when you say Flacco is a great QB, he's upset because you didn't say "Flacco is a GREAT QB"
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When you misrepresent the subject or the player, then I call you on it. Just like I would expect to be called out when I say somethig out of line.

Ed Reed has been talking retirement around here for 3 yrs. He's not the Lockerroom leader you guys think he is. He is a loner. He works out in teoff season with his "U" buddies. He cannot wrap up or straight up tackle anymore.

That is all. You gys say I don't undersand or recognize sarcasm; perhaps you should look for some in my posts also.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Glad to hear it. You're good with me. I like what you bring to the table. Don't let these guys make you snap though. Keep it together. I really enjoy having insightful conversations with opposing fans.

Go Texans!
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I'm fine- thanks for the kind words.

Go Ravens
 
handswarmer said:
Its from the same article....I could care less about neg reps and that high school crap.

I have no interest in worrying about what someone else thinks about my reputation on a Football message board.
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Nobody ever called Pollard a cancer when he was with the Texans, everyone loved his aggression and hard-nosed attitude around here. He couldn't cover well, but Frank Bush was his DC, so I'm not surprised he performed better in Baltimore.

I have never heard anyone call Ed Reed a cancer, but you're implying that he was in Baltimore.

Now that both have left your team you come in here proclaiming that they were terrible guys in the locker room with no leadership. Yeah, right... Sounds like sour grapes to me.
 
ASidd_1990 said:
So did we reach an agreement with him?

I'm getting worried that a deal won't get done and he will sign with the 49ers.
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If it happens, it'll come out later today. F5'ing right now is probably going to keep you up to date on nothing happening.
 
handswarmer said:
When you misrepresent the subject or the player, then I call you on it. Just like I would expect to be called out when I say somethig out of line.
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I'm not misrepresenting anything when I say top receivers adjust to the ball. But you take it as an insult to your QB, even though I've clearly been on Flacco's side.


handswarmer said:
Ed Reed has been talking retirement around here for 3 yrs. He's not the Lockerroom leader you guys think he is. He is a loner. He works out in teoff season with his "U" buddies. He cannot wrap up or straight up tackle anymore.
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I don't think Ed Reed is a leader at all, that's not my argument. I don't want him here to lead Jjo, Manning, & Kj. I personally don't think we need him for that.

I want someone that Brady & Manning respects playing center field.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Nobody ever called Pollard a cancer when he was with the Texans, everyone loved his aggression and hard-nosed attitude around here. He couldn't cover well, but Frank Bush was his DC, so I'm not surprised he performed better in Baltimore.

I have never heard anyone call Ed Reed a cancer, but you're implying that he was in Baltimore.

Now that both have left your team you come in here proclaiming that they were terrible guys in the locker room with no leadership. Yeah, right... Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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