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Dreessen signs with Broncos

Kthx said:
At this point I would rather cut OD and keep Dreeson as sad as it sounds in my head as I write it. Dreeson has great hands, and I won't forget that 30 yard diving end-zone catch from last season.
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I agree with this. The team would save money and the 2 starting TE's would be Dreesen and Graham with Casey as a backup. It's past time to see what Graham can do and OD is way over paid for his services.
 
Wolf6151 said:
I agree with this. The team would save money and the 2 starting TE's would be Dreesen and Graham with Casey as a backup. It's past time to see what Graham can do and OD is way over paid for his services.
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Demeco, though, was going to cost $6 million per year in base salary alone for the next 5 years. That is a monster contract. Add in the injury concerns and their belief that he is not a great fit for the 3-4 defense, and the trade is a no-brainer. The Texans will save roughly $8 million under the cap in 2013-2016 (each season). That is a huge number that, alone, almost pays for Duane Brown's extension/new contract.

The fact that the Texans were able to clear their books and get significant compensation in this year's draft makes this a smart trade for the Texans. That is, unless the loss of Demeco's leadership has a significant effect on the on-field product.... which I am concerned it could.

Cutting or trading Owen Daniels simply wouldn't clear nearly as much cap space. Also, Daniels is an every down player who fits the Texans' system. I'm not saying Daniels is a better player, or more deserving, only that the circumstances are such that his retention and Demeco's exit both make great sense.
 
Kthx said:
At this point I would rather cut OD and keep Dreeson as sad as it sounds in my head as I write it. Dreeson has great hands, and I won't forget that 30 yard diving end-zone catch from last season.
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Seriously?! OD not only has great hands, but the ability to separtate from the defender and find the open spots in coverage. Much more so than Dreessen.

If OD was to ever leave I'd choose Casey over anyone else. Dreessen's decent, but there's a reason he's behind OD
 
HOU-TEX said:
Seriously?! OD not only has great hands, but the ability to separtate from the defender and find the open spots in coverage. Much more so than Dreessen.

If OD was to ever leave I'd choose Casey over anyone else. Dreessen's decent, but there's a reason he's behind OD
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I like Dreessen but he kind of disappointed me when OD was out with injury. I remember thinking that Dreessen would fill in and the offense wouldn't really miss a beat. They did, though.

That said, I would like Dreessen to stay but if he walks, he walks. Going to Denver would a move that would basically take him home. Who wouldn't want to be close to home?
 
Texan_Bill said:
I like Dreessen but he kind of disappointed me when OD was out with injury. I remember thinking that Dreessen would fill in and the offense wouldn't really miss a beat. They did, though.

That said, I would like Dreessen to stay but if he walks, he walks. Going to Denver would a move that would basically take him home. Who wouldn't want to be close to home?
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I agree. I like Dreessen too, but I think Casey (if not our FB) and Graham could easily step in for him. Plus, we'll probably draft 4 next month
 
ObsiWan said:
Ask Tim Tebow how much "loyalty" the Denver franchise has. He took them to the playoffs and put record numbers of butts in the seats. But as soon as they thought they had upgraded by signing Manning, they shopped him around for trade bait.

Don't get it twisted, Denver is no better than anywhere else. If someone like Gronski or Dallas Clark comes to Denver, Dreessen becomes trade bait or worse, gets flat out cut, just as fast as Tebow.
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I was waiting for someone to bring up the Tebow trade!:fingergun:

Look, today is a NEW day, and the sting of losing Meco is subsiding a little bit. I didn't go bonkers over the loss of Mario, or any of the others, although the loss of Winston sorta stunned me, but, I understood that move more than Meco's. If Joel goes to Denver, which I think he will, then so be it. If the Texans had truly wanted him, they would have already resigned him.

This is a Dreessen thread, and I wish him well, wherever he ends up. I'm a big Casey fan, so moving him from TE to FB sorted ticked me off. I believe Casey could be the next OD anyway, not Joel. BUT, thats JMO!!!
 
Can't fault him. Damn though. He was big for us.

Hopefully Graham can step in. Or move Casey back and draft/sign a FB?
 
I wish him the best. Can't fault him one bit going to Denver! I always liked him here.

With that said, I think we'll be A Okay with OD, Graham and Casey.
 
This is a lot of turnover for players that actually contributed on the field, hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass.
 
Dreessen* Sorry it was late.

Also I think you are right Premier, good call on that one, it was Casey who made that sliding catch for the TD.

Still, chances are Casey is going to be mainly a FB this year and we will need a receiving TE, and Dreessen is the better option at this point in his career than OD is I believe.
 
That's all right. I've heard losing contributors makes the team stronger.


Not that I've been convinced of that. The team continues to pile up needs in depth, and I don't think "Next Man Up" is replacing the lost starters with equal quality.

To stay where they were last season, they better have a helluva draft or have some hidden free agent money stashed somewhere.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Can't fault him. Damn though. He was big for us.

Hopefully Graham can step in. Or move Casey back and draft/sign a FB?
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Graham can step in easily... I've been waiting to see what this kid can do. He can do everything that Dreessen can, but is more athletic. I'd also pick up the phone and tell Casey to start studying his playbook, because I'd make him a full time TE to add depth and solidify the position... it's much easier to find a FB late in the draft or in FA than it is to find a back up TE with Casey's skill set. It's time to stop waisting this guy's talent/career and move him to his natural NFL position.. He is not a FB.
 
He's definitley going to Denver. Passing up the opportunity to catch passes from an all time great and a for sure hall of famer? I wouldn't...

And thank God I didn't end up getting a Dressen jersey made last year. I was seriously considering getting one because he was contributing so much.
 
another possible comp pick now right?

kubiak's supposed TE fetish has whittled its way down to 2 (excl casey as fb).... bring back anthony hill!
 
I applaud the Broncos for taking radical steps to change direction. We did that same thing by bringing in Wade Phillips, cutting Amobi Okoye, adding two talented secondary FAs, shifting Cushing to the Mike full time.

They will have to deal with cap issues down the line, just like we did. Nobody escapes it. You can't take on those players with those contracts and expect to sail freely in today's NFL.

There will be some maneuvering that the Broncos have to do in a year or two, just like we are doing now. AND...there's no guarantees that Manning stays healthy all year. I think he will, but there's no guarantees. I like their boldness, though.

BTW, I like Casey at FB because he can motion out to the end of the line and present confusion for defenses. What does a D think when Casey leaves the backfield and lines up on the end of the line? They don't know whether to play Arian Foster on the run...or will we play-action to Arian and throw to a guy like Casey who beats LBs in a foot race every time? If they freeze up and play the pass, sweep Arian to Casey's side and Casey is now blocking on the edge for him. If they play the run, but it's a play-action pass...they've bitten and cannot recover in time to locate and cover Casey properly.

I think you use Graham or OD out there, or even BOTH of them, and you use Casey at FB on certain plays. That's a nightmare for a defense: A Texans 2 TE set with Casey also at FB, and Foster at RB, and AJ at WR split way out wide. That creates soooooo many options for our style of offense.

A defense would have to account for everything: The bomb or slant to AJ, two capable TEs who can run a wide array of routes to exploit a defense's formation, the run game with Casey and Foster, Casey as a receiving threat, Foster as a receiving threat, the list goes on and on.......
 
GP said:
BTW, I like Casey at FB because he can motion out to the end of the line and present confusion for defenses. What does a D think when Casey leaves the backfield and lines up on the end of the line? They don't know whether to play Arian Foster on the run...or will we play-action to Arian and throw to a guy like Casey who beats LBs in a foot race every time? If they freeze up and play the pass, sweep Arian to Casey's side and Casey is now blocking on the edge for him. If they play the run, but it's a play-action pass...they've bitten and cannot recover in time to locate and cover Casey properly.

I think you use Graham or OD out there, or even BOTH of them, and you use Casey at FB on certain plays. That's a nightmare for a defense: A Texans 2 TE set with Casey also at FB, and Foster at RB, and AJ at WR split way out wide. That creates soooooo many options for our style of offense.

A defense would have to account for everything: The bomb or slant to AJ, two capable TEs who can run a wide array of routes to exploit a defense's formation, the run game with Casey and Foster, Casey as a receiving threat, Foster as a receiving threat, the list goes on and on.......
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I just wish the Texans would do this package out of a no-huddle set up to keep the same base defense on the field and exploit matchups...
 
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Señor Stan;1924664 said:
I just wish the Texans would do this package out of a no-huddle set up to keep the same base defense on the field and exploit matchups...
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Agreed. It would tire a defense out, but then again you have to make the plays to sustain a No Huddle or you give the ball back pretty fast if you can't convert each set of downs.

The Colts are the perfect defense to do a No Huddle on. They are already spooked by how many rushing yards Foster puts on them every game, they'd be rattled if we trotted out a strong formation and kept doing crazy stuff out of it every down.
 
Good luck Joel Dreesen, thanks for your time here. :)

And only time will tell if you made the right decision.
 
About Joel leaving...


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Next ****in' man up.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Graham can step in easily... I've been waiting to see what this kid can do. He can do everything that Dreessen can, but is more athletic. I'd also pick up the phone and tell Casey to start studying his playbook, because I'd make him a full time TE to add depth and solidify the position... it's much easier to find a FB late in the draft or in FA than it is to find a back up TE with Casey's skill set. It's time to stop waisting this guy's talent/career and move him to his natural NFL position.. He is not a FB.
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really??? What make you think this???
 
houstonspartan said:
Yep. What's going on now is players are seeing that management has no clue - and no plan - and they're bailing.
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No, what you're seeing is a 31 year old backup TE coming off a 300 yd year not getting paid by his former team... They may be comfortable in Graham, and decided not to make such a huge offer to Dree...

Yes, the cap situation the Texans are in sucks, but it won't continue to suck because they are refusing to overpay players this offseason..

Can't keep everyone...
 
Vinny said:
Is this Coachspeak for "the cap is mismanaged, but I can't say that....I gotta coach what they give me"

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth
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He can't say anything, because that was the price (signing Joseph and Manning) that had to be paid in order to save Rick Smith's and his ass last season.

Oh well, if the blood letting that we're going through now allows us to lock up Duane Brown, Brian Cushing, and Conner Barwin, it all be worth it.
 
Carr Bombed said:
He can't say anything, because that was the price (signing Joseph and Manning) that had to be paid in order to save Rick Smith's and his ass last season.
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Probably a little of that too, though i think the price paid for Danithan Mannseph is a good price period, no matter "why" or "when" they did it...
 
Carr Bombed said:
Oh well, if the blood letting that we're going through now allows us to lock up Duane Brown, Brian Cushing, and Conner Barwin, it all be worth it.
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Agreed... And it already allowed us to lock up Foster and Myers...

I think a lot of people complaining want to have their cake and eat it too (ugh i hate that phrase, feel dirty for using it).. They want the Texans to overpay every player on the roster, yet wanna beotch about the cap... You can't overspend on these guys if you want a managable cap next year...
 
Off topic, but I better see the Texans lock up Duane Brown early with all the cap they are cutting from last season/this season.
 
drunkcookie said:
Agreed... And it already allowed us to lock up Foster and Myers...

I think a lot of people complaining want to have their cake and eat it too (ugh i hate that phrase, feel dirty for using it).. They want the Texans to overpay every player on the roster, yet wanna beotch about the cap... You can't overspend on these guys if you want a managable cap next year...
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Real talk.

Realistic Posters>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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