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Dreessen signs with Broncos

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John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL
TE Joel Dreessen says he will choose between the Texans and Broncos by Friday morning. He's also visited Saints, Bengals and Titans.

Rebecca Haarlow ‏ @RebeccaHaarlow
Jeff Saturday skips Manning reunion 4 Packers, Broncos agree to terms w TE Joel Dreessen & CB Tracy Porter; details next on @nflnetwork
 
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I would not be surprised either way...

I'm sure he feels some loyalties to Houston, and I'm sure he would like to go home to Colorado and have the chance at being Peyton's #1 TE...
 
I doubt the Texans offered him much. I think he will pick Denver because of Peyton Manning and his ties to Colorado State.
 
Blake said:
I doubt the Texans offered him much. I think he will pick Denver because of Peyton Manning and his ties to Colorado State.
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I would guess we offered between $1.75M-$2.0M/yr. I wouldn't be surprised to see him pick Denver either.
 
He's gonzo. The chance to go home and play catch with an all time great will prove to be too tempting to pass up. This offseason continues to leave me very concerned.
 
I know he wasn't an IMPORTANT clog to our team but he was dependable and I will miss him if he goes...I think I'd actually be sad. Yes, I said sad.
 
srrono said:
John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL
TE Joel Dreessen says he will choose between the Texans and Broncos by Friday morning. He's also visited Saints, Bengals and Titans.
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If I were him I'd chose Denver.

1) He'd have Peyton Manning at QB
2) They need a TE so he'd get paid more
3) He's have Peyton Manning at QB

It's a win-win.
 
cbs1507 said:
If I were him I'd chose Denver.

1) He'd have Peyton Manning at QB
2) They need a TE so he'd get paid more
3) He's have Peyton Manning at QB

It's a win-win.
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Me too. I'd have my bags already packed.

1) He's from Colorado
2) He played at Colorado State
3) His QB would be PEYTON MANNING (1st ballot HOF, can talk the rest of his life of playing with him)
4) He's likely to be offered more money in Denver
5) Denver is just as likely (if not more) to win their division
 
I think he's married, and if his wife is local with family here that's probably a consideration ? Or maybe she's also from Colorado ?
 
I bet he's coming back. This is a way for him to try and solict more money from other teams before he Boddens them.
 
It will come down to:

1) Money

I bet he goes to the place that offers him the most money.
 
El Tejano said:
I know he wasn't an IMPORTANT clog to our team but he was dependable and I will miss him if he goes...I think I'd actually be sad. Yes, I said sad.
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I hear where you're coming from, but depending on your definition of important, you could argue he was. A lot of the time when we were running a two tight end set - whether they were standard pass plays or bootlegs - the progression always seemed to be Andre-Daniels and then safety valve (Foster or Dressen). Or if AJ was down, it'd be Daniels-Walter/Jacoby and then safety valve.

You knew teams were going to put their efforts into shading whoever we had at #1 WR and OD, so this often allowed Dressen to go one on one, or sometimes be wide open; people on here in the game day threads often called "goaline TD to Dressen" before it happened.

Hopefully Graham or a TE we draft can fill that role.
 
Fake John McClain ‏ @FakeJohnMcClain

Dreessen has a tough decision to make. Play w/ a QB who didn't play all yr last yr, or w/ a QB coming off an Anne Frank injury. Decisions.
 
Premier said:
Fake John McClain ‏ @FakeJohnMcClain

Dreessen has a tough decision to make. Play w/ a QB who didn't play all yr last yr, or w/ a QB coming off an Anne Frank injury. Decisions.
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LOL. FakeJohnMcClain with another astounding observation.
 
If he's smart, he'll go to Denver. Regardless of how much money the TEXANS offer, they will figure out some way to screw him over. I don't know how much loyalty there is in the Denver franchise, but, there is ZERO in the Texans!! Get out while the gettin's good! JMO
 
Blake said:
I doubt the Texans offered him much. I think he will pick Denver because of Peyton Manning and his ties to Colorado State.
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Ding ding ding. I'd like him to stay but this may give graham an opportunity to show what he can do.
 
SheTexan said:
If he's smart, he'll go to Denver. Regardless of how much money the TEXANS offer, they will figure out some way to screw him over. I don't know how much loyalty there is in the Denver franchise, but, there is ZERO in the Texans!! Get out while the gettin's good! JMO
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WOW Gma! I never heard you talk about the Texans like this before. You must not be happy with them right now.
 
Yeah, if I were him I'd choose Denver too. Just too good of an opportunity to pass up.

That said, I don't know if he'd start or play more there.

I believe Clark is still out there, plus Denver could pick up a te they really like in the draft.

Depends on what the teams are telling him especially if the money is close.
 
SheTexan said:
If he's smart, he'll go to Denver. Regardless of how much money the TEXANS offer, they will figure out some way to screw him over. I don't know how much loyalty there is in the Denver franchise, but, there is ZERO in the Texans!! Get out while the gettin's good! JMO
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Cast your eyes on EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL and tell me which franchises are "loyal" to all of its players. If you can still conclude that the Texans are somehow worse than other teams in the NFL then why are you a fan of such a low franchise as this?
 
Texans are allowing players to leave, cutting them and trading them due to overpaying many of the players. Sounds like Texans are pretty loyal to me; right Demeco? They told him they'd pay him and pay him they did.
 
The Third Man said:
Cast your eyes on EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL and tell me which franchises are "loyal" to all of its players. If you can still conclude that the Texans are somehow worse than other teams in the NFL then why are you a fan of such a low franchise as this?
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Because I CHOOSE to be a fan of the Houston Texans!! I might detest some of the decisions they make, but, I'm still a fan, and will be until the day I die!! PLUS, I don't really give a crap what EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL does!! WHY? Because I'm a TEXAN fan, and what they do affects me to my core!! IF I was a Texan player right now, I'd find it very difficult to be loyal to this franchise! Loyalty gets you nothing but a kick out the door! SURE, it happens all over the NFL, that's why Dreessen should pack his duds and head to Colorado. At least the Broncos are going forward, not backward!!

YES, I'm very pissed off at what's happened this past week. I've read EVERY damn thread concerning Demeco's trade, and believe it or not, I DO understand the theory behind the trade. Right now I'm still working on the "acceptance" phase of my grieving period, and I have NO sympathy for the evil SOBs that run this franchise. It's my opinion, and I have a right to voice it. Tomorrow I might feel different, but, today I'm still venting!!
 
I'd understand completely if he chooses Denver, but I really hope he comes back to Houston. I do not have much faith in OD anymore. OD isn't the same player he was.
 
SheTexan said:
If he's smart, he'll go to Denver. Regardless of how much money the TEXANS offer, they will figure out some way to screw him over. I don't know how much loyalty there is in the Denver franchise, but, there is ZERO in the Texans!! Get out while the gettin's good! JMO
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Broncos just got rid of their starting QB.

Grown man business, folks. To hell with loyalty as a player, fan or otherwise in sports. Means little to me, and always will. Everyone's trade-able, cut-able, and whatever else "-able" you want to put on it. Just wait til Dre gets cut at 38.
 
Broncos have another TE in mind also. TE Jacob Tamme. Although Tamme's stats aren't as good as Dreessen's, Tamme is Manning's ex-TE.
 
SheTexan said:
Because I CHOOSE to be a fan of the Houston Texans!! I might detest some of the decisions they make, but, I'm still a fan, and will be until the day I die!! PLUS, I don't really give a crap what EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL does!! WHY? Because I'm a TEXAN fan, and what they do affects me to my core!! IF I was a Texan player right now, I'd find it very difficult to be loyal to this franchise! Loyalty gets you nothing but a kick out the door! SURE, it happens all over the NFL, that's why Dreessen should pack his duds and head to Colorado. At least the Broncos are going forward, not backward!!

YES, I'm very pissed off at what's happened this past week. I've read EVERY damn thread concerning Demeco's trade, and believe it or not, I DO understand the theory behind the trade. Right now I'm still working on the "acceptance" phase of my grieving period, and I have NO sympathy for the evil SOBs that run this franchise. It's my opinion, and I have a right to voice it. Tomorrow I might feel different, but, today I'm still venting!!
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Gma... I love you BUT YOU HAVE to go back to work. Retirement isn't suiting you very well... ;)
 
Gronkowski is 6' 6" 275 bruising pounds. Dressen is arguable our biggest TE at 6' 4" 245. Dressen plays hard. He was a 6th round draft pick. I don't like any of our TE's to be honest. Casey's a tweener and starting to get that overachiever, fan favorite, sticking around like Bill Bates vibe. Graham looks like a bust based on his inability to get on the field. OD is working on his third ACL recon. Hate to say it, but we need to draft a TE.
 
kingh99 said:
Gronkowski is 6' 6" 275 bruising pounds. Dressen is arguable our biggest TE at 6' 4" 245. Dressen plays hard. He was a 6th round draft pick. I don't like any of our TE's to be honest. Casey's a tweener and starting to get that overachiever, fan favorite, sticking around like Bill Bates vibe. Graham looks like a bust based on his inability to get on the field. OD is working on his third ACL recon. Hate to say it, but we need to draft a TE.
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:mcnugget:

Who gives a crap about Gronkowski??

Gronkowski was Brady's main "go-to" guy. In the Texans offense, is the TE the primary target - in general??? Hardly!!! Apples to Oranges!!!


Casey is a stud.. Why? Well simply put because he's so versatile. Line him up as a FB then send him motion to be an "H-Back" -OR- line him up as a straight-up TE.... He makes the offense sooo versatile. Gronkowski? Not so much!

At the end of the day, Dreessen is a lesser version of OD. OD does some things better, but Dreessen does basically the same thing. I would take an offense w/ options of Daniels/Dreesen/Casey everyday and (literally AND figuratively) over Gronkowski's one trick pony!!!

That said, if Dreessen moves on, I wish him luck, although he'll play second fiddle (again) to 'more than likely' Dallas Clark...



Finally, **** Grankowski!!!
 
SheTexan said:
Because I CHOOSE to be a fan of the Houston Texans!! I might detest some of the decisions they make, but, I'm still a fan, and will be until the day I die!! PLUS, I don't really give a crap what EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL does!! WHY? Because I'm a TEXAN fan, and what they do affects me to my core!! IF I was a Texan player right now, I'd find it very difficult to be loyal to this franchise! Loyalty gets you nothing but a kick out the door! SURE, it happens all over the NFL, that's why Dreessen should pack his duds and head to Colorado. At least the Broncos are going forward, not backward!!

YES, I'm very pissed off at what's happened this past week. I've read EVERY damn thread concerning Demeco's trade, and believe it or not, I DO understand the theory behind the trade. Right now I'm still working on the "acceptance" phase of my grieving period, and I have NO sympathy for the evil SOBs that run this franchise. It's my opinion, and I have a right to voice it. Tomorrow I might feel different, but, today I'm still venting!!
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You can voice anything. The homeless guy on the feeder road ranting against the UN poisoning his kool-aid is venting, too. It doesn't mean it is valid. There is no loyalty in the NFL. The Texans are not cutting players out of spite- they operate under a salary cap. Ryans has had declining production every year of his career and he made a lot of money. The Texans paid him millions of dollars and decided to find a cheaper option.
 
Love Dreesen and hope he stays because I think he's an unsung hero and quietly extremely important to this team, but I will not blame him one bit if he goes to Denver.
 
SheTexan said:
I don't really give a crap what EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL does!! WHY? Because I'm a TEXAN fan, and what they do affects me to my core!!!!

I have NO sympathy for the evil SOBs that run this franchise.
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To quote the evil SOB who ran the Coreleone franchise:

"It's not personal, it's just business."
 
Although i do not share the same view at this time as SheTexan, if he comes back and wants to help us win a superbowl to a team that has been good to him then great, if he decides to go to denver just cause neck broken manning is there then screw him.

Although Dressen was "descent" he is FAR from irreplacable !
 
El Tejano said:
I know he wasn't an IMPORTANT clog to our team but he was dependable and I will miss him if he goes...I think I'd actually be sad. Yes, I said sad.
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Wasn't important? He led the team in TD's receptions last season. He was a lot more important than most people here realize.
 
Premier said:
Fake John McClain ‏ @FakeJohnMcClain

Dreessen has a tough decision to make. Play w/ a QB who didn't play all yr last yr, or w/ a QB coming off an Anne Frank injury. Decisions.
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I love Fake John McClain. If anyone knows the guy that runs that account, point him out to me so I can buy that man a beer and some lemon squares.
 
IDEXAN said:
I think he's married, and if his wife is local with family here that's probably a consideration ? Or maybe she's also from Colorado ?
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FWIW, some points that may or may not make any difference.

His wife and he met in college at Colorado.

I believe there was an Chronicle article sometime near the 2010season that said that she was staying in Colorado with their child a good part of the time during the preseason.

They are both active with M.D. Anderson-associated activities.

He owns an 800-acre ranch 75 miles east of Amarillo.
 
The Third Man said:
You can voice anything. The homeless guy on the feeder road ranting against the UN poisoning his kool-aid is venting, too. It doesn't mean it is valid. There is no loyalty in the NFL. The Texans are not cutting players out of spite- they operate under a salary cap. Ryans has had declining production every year of his career and he made a lot of money. The Texans paid him millions of dollars and decided to find a cheaper option.
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DUDE! Dumbest post ever!! This youngl lady stated that intillectually she understood the cut, but that she hated it.

What part don't you get.............. Or, are you being the guy the guy trying to make some sort of suddne impact, like your're somebody???

Like anyone of us give a c****e?
 
At this point I would rather cut OD and keep Dreeson as sad as it sounds in my head as I write it. Dreeson has great hands, and I won't forget that 30 yard diving end-zone catch from last season.
 
SheTexan said:
If he's smart, he'll go to Denver. Regardless of how much money the TEXANS offer, they will figure out some way to screw him over. I don't know how much loyalty there is in the Denver franchise, but, there is ZERO in the Texans!! Get out while the gettin's good! JMO
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Ask Tim Tebow how much "loyalty" the Denver franchise has. He took them to the playoffs and put record numbers of butts in the seats. But as soon as they thought they had upgraded by signing Manning, they shopped him around for trade bait.

Don't get it twisted, Denver is no better than anywhere else. If someone like Gronski or Dallas Clark comes to Denver, Dreessen becomes trade bait or worse, gets flat out cut, just as fast as Tebow.
 
ObsiWan said:
Ask Tim Tebow how much "loyalty" the Denver franchise has. He took them to the playoffs and put record numbers of butts in the seats. But as soon as they thought they had upgraded by signing Manning, they shopped him around for trade bait.

Don't get it twisted, Denver is no better than anywhere else. If someone like Gronski or Dallas Clark comes to Denver, Dreessen becomes trade bait or worse, gets flat out cut, just as fast as Tebow.
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:goodpost:
 
Kthx said:
At this point I would rather cut OD and keep Dreeson as sad as it sounds in my head as I write it. Dreeson has great hands, and I won't forget that 30 yard diving end-zone catch from last season.
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I'm down with this. Where do we find this "Dreeson" fellow you reference?
 
I don't get the whole loyalty factor that everyone is bringing up right now. Someone could make the argument that the Texans ARE being loyal in trading Demeco to a team where he can stay on the field more than 60% of the defensive snaps giving him a chance to cash in on 1 more decent sized contract once this one expires. It was clear that in our system he was not going to be on the field much more than that, thus limiting his earning potential. The Texans made this man a very rich individual and I'm sure he's grateful for them giving him every opportunity to succeed.

Throughout the time of football every team in this league has had to make tough decisions to let players go. Joe Montana, Johnny U, Ladainian Tomlinson, OJ Simpson, etc etc etc..... There's a long list of HOF guys who were let go by their team in order to move forward as an organization. These guys understand the nature of the beast in the league. With a hard salary cap its virtually impossible to retain all of your players when you're successful as a team. I wish Meco, Mario, Winston, and any other player who was on our team last year who won't be this year the best. But they're not exempt from being let go of just like the long list of HOF players who had to move on weren't. The Patriots traded Richard Seymour right before the season started. Let go of Lawyer Milloy right before the season started. It doesn't mean they're not loyal and thankful for what those guys did for the organization. They just felt that it was time to move on in order for their team to be successful for years to come. I understand everyone's frustration by seeing guys leave the team who have been here for a while, but I'm encouraged that the Texans are looking to the future and not back to the past.

Sorry for the long post, but its just my opinion. I think when everyone has a second to exhale and take everything in all of these moves won't seem as drastic. The fact that these guys were given very generous contracts after their rookie contracts expired proves that they're plenty loyal. They also didn't leave them hanging by releasing or trading them late in the free agency process allowing them to get with their teams and get right to work. They're both (Winston and Meco) going to great organizations where they'll be making millions of dollars. Everyone who feels like the Texans aren't loyal probably should talk to Jacoby Jones. I bet that guy feels like Bob McNair and crew are the most loyal group in the world.
 
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