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The 5th is in 2025, but other than that you are correctWe get Diggs and their 5th and 6th round pick this year, Buffalo gets our 2025 2nd round pick that we got from Minn.
Is this correct?
This also gives you contract leverage with Nico contractHe's still got 3 yrs left on his current deal.
No, the 5th is 2025We get Diggs and their 5th and 6th round pick this year, Buffalo gets our 2025 2nd round pick that we got from Minn.
Is this correct?
Wonder what happened to old Tex.File clerk cooking again!
I thought it would be someone under contract control. I wasn't sure it would be a wr,dt, or safetyOnce they didn't get Allen and re-structured Howard, it was pretty easy to figure out that Caserio/Ryans were going to bring in Diggs.
I don't think it will be a lb until maybe 4th because of big nickel packagesThis trade definitely opens up the draft in round 2 and 3, IMO. Those wanting a DT could get their wish after all... I think they have a couple LBs targeted in round 2. I will now be surprised if we don't move to grab a LB somewhere in round 2 or 3. Steel, how do you think this impacts the draft?
True, but they can pay Nico, just not what Ridley got overpaid. They still have 3 more years of cj rookie contractNot to be a downer, but I think this trade is also a 2025 hedge regarding Nico Collins. My guess is we plan to bring Diggs or Collins back in 2025- not both.
Eh. He's a cancer. Better keep his bullshit in check.
Wonder what happened to old Tex.
Haven't seen him around these parts in awhile and this is the time of yr where we talk draft stuff.
Yeah, I think DeMeco is gonna have a problem with him. I’m not happy with this trade. It reeks with “dumping a troublemaker” if you ask me.
That's ridiculous.
a Future 2nd, so it's like this year's 3rd. Plus we got two picks for this year. That's insane.getting a 4 time pro bowl WR for a 2nd is great and not only that, getting draft capital back too
Can somebody figure out what we have in this draft now? #'s?a Future 2nd, so it's like this year's 3rd. Plus we got two picks for this year. That's insane.
Dudes gonna run through a brick wall for Meco!
just like you would
and me
Buffalos 6th round pick is #204.Can somebody figure out what we have in this draft now? #'s?
Can somebody figure out what we have in this draft now? #'s?
If it's their 5th as well, that is #160.42
59
86
122
126
188
Buffalo's 6th (#204)- They have 3 6ths, so I'm not positive. The other 2 are earlier than 204
and some 7ths- I can't keep up with those
The 5th is in 2025If it's their 5th as well, that is #160.
Payton Wilson is my pick at 59 and is a LB who may have the coverage skills and speed to move into Nickleback.I don't think it will be a lb until maybe 4th because of big nickel packages
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This is what makes this deal so good.
Yeah, I think DeMeco is gonna have a problem with him. I’m not happy with this trade. It reeks with “dumping a troublemaker” if you ask me.
HOU #23 + HOU #232 —> MIN #42, MIN 2025 2ndCan somebody figure out what we have in this draft now? #'s?
This is still dependent on Diggs' new contract.
Grading the Texans-Bills trade for Diggs
The odd thing about this deal is that situationally, the Bills sure need Diggs more than the Texans. Houston now has a plethora of riches at receiver, given that it already had an exceptional duo in Collins and Dell. They both ranked in the top 10 in overall score in ESPN's receiver tracking metrics last season.
Buffalo could not be in a more different place. After dealing Diggs (and letting Gabe Davis sign in Jacksonville), the team's top wide receivers are Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir and Mack Hollins. Sure, the offseason isn't done, and this year's draft includes an exceptional wide receiver class. But even if the Bills address receiver in the draft, they appear very likely to head into the 2024 season with a question mark at the position. Plus, it's worth noting that the draft capital that Buffalo acquired here is for next offseason.
Though Buffalo is turning over some of its roster, it's Super Bowl window is absolutely open. The Bills will take on a $31.096 million dead-money cap charge, but this is not overly important. That money is a sunk cost. The Bills will save almost $19 million in Diggs' salary and roster bonuses, though this is less than his market value.
This deal will ultimately hinge on which version of Diggs the Texans get going forward. He started the 2023 campaign on fire, with five 100-yard games over the first six weeks. But then he never had one again over the rest of the season. Diggs' yards per route run dropped from 2.8 in 2022 to 2.2 in 2023. And his advanced metrics took a dive: His receiver tracking metrics overall score -- which was between 72 and 91 every season from 2017-2022 -- dropped to 52. That his RTMs open score remained above average (69, a drop from 83 the prior year) mitigates a little of this concern, but any time a 29-year-old receiver has a dropoff in play, we have to consider the possibility that it is just him showing his decline.
The optimistic case for Buffalo? Perhaps it thought Diggs' play was falling off and decided to cash out now rather than wait a year and watch his trade stock drop further. But given Buffalo's team-building situation -- having arguably the second-best quarterback in the NFL without any dangerous wide receivers now -- it's possible the Bills just decided they wanted to move on.
The aforementioned areas of concern in Diggs' numbers and his age (he'll turn 31 in November) are why this is not necessarily a home run for Houston. There are real questions about what caliber of player Diggs is going forward, and the draft capital exchanged wasn't trivial -- though getting back two late-round picks takes a little sting out of it. Still, the Texans are firmly in their rookie-QB Super Bowl window and earn the right to pay Diggs below market value -- perhaps for multiple seasons -- so I certainly understand pushing their chips in. -- Walder
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Grade for the Texans: B
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Grade for the Bills: C+
So, what’s the deal here? It looks like to me they were desperate to get rid of him. Look at the dead money they are carrying just to do the trade. Doesn’t make much sense to me. And that makes me a little suspicious.
Wonder what happened to old Tex.
Haven't seen him around these parts in awhile and this is the time of yr where we talk draft stuff.
Yet Hearts begin to mend as on the very next play, CJ throws a touchdown pass to Stefon Diggs winning the Championship game and then follows up by Diggs catching the winning touchdown pass in the Super Bowl!The pass he is going to drop in the AFC championship game will be the most heartbreaking event in Texans history
Esp. With Mixon too?
Combustible. Not what I want for a team with a young, impressionable QB and quite frankly, a team that is still learning.
I am looking at the extra 30 million in cap space as a unexpected bonus that allowed us to get Diggs and Hunter and going into our own pocket for approximately 3 million more.This is still dependent on Diggs' new contract.
yep last year he was pretty much on the same level as Nico Collins!Love it!
dudes on another level!
Tried to tell y'all!
yep last year he was pretty much on the same level as Nico Collins!
Was it before or after you were telling us this FA was an epic fail and Caserio was a bum?
Diggs 2024 became fully GTD day 1 of this league year.signed through 2027 but no guaranteed money left this year
Stefon Diggs Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap
Stefon Diggs contract and salary cap details, including signing bonus, guaranteed salary, dead money, roster bonuses, and contract historyoverthecap.com
And I think that coach in Buffalo is not good. Not good at coaching the game and not good at coaching/handling personalities. Ryans is good at both.In Demeco I trust. I have all the faith in the world he can manage these personalities
$14.3 and that is after our draft pool and dead money is removed. We still have quite a bit of money to throw at DerekOur cap hit, without a restructure, looks like it would be about $18 million.
In Demeco I trust. I have all the faith in the world he can manage these personalities
Yes you did! But you being you, we chose to ignore you. Just kiddingTried to tell y'all!