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Shannahan had a lot of respect from guys around the league and the Texans offensive players.

Since Shanny has been OC:
AJ has led the league twice in reception yards
Schaub led the league in passing yards
Our total offense has ranked 3rd and 4th in 08 and 09

Before Shanny, our offense was ranked 14th.


Sometimes coordinators aren't that important, as its the head coach and player that makes more of a difference. NYG lost their D coordinator this past year and, with mostly the same players, their defense went from 5th overall allowing 18.4 points per game (5th) to 13th overall allowing 26.7 points per game (30th)

It could be bad, but I guess it depends on who we get to replace him
 
hot pickle said:
i think our play calling will be better next year without him... i think little shanny was thrown into the OC roll way way to early.. IMO
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DITTO!! Kubiak set him up to follow in Dad's footsteps, with the TEXANS as his training ground. Truthfully, I'm a little ticked!!
 
Calhoun left and the offense improved. Sherman left and the offense improved. Shanahan is leaving and the offense will likely continue to improve.

This is the Gary Kubiak show.
 
Honestly I have no clue who _actually_ calls the plays on this offense. It could be major that he's gone, or it could have absolutely no effect on our team.

I guess we'll see? :)
 
Malloy said:
Honestly I have no clue who _actually_ calls the plays on this offense. It could be major that he's gone, or it could have absolutely no effect on our team.

I guess we'll see? :)
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This is my problem as well. I don't think anyone really has a clue who has the reins of the offense. My money is on Gary not being able to totally let go of the offense myself.

I saw a few names come up, but I think with a lame duck contract year it's going to be hard to get the one guy I saw listed that Kubiak might respect enough to let the play calling go to and that's Chan Gailey.

Really I expect him to likely try to promote someone inside again, so he can continue to call plays.
 
I think the players really liked him...always hurts to lose continuity but doesn't Kubiak have control over every play called anyway?
 
b0ng said:
If Munchak is getting promoted though, don't they have to let him out of his contract?
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You would think so, but McClain talked about that situation and concluded that they didn't have to release him unless it was specific in Munchak's contract. McClain did think it was specific in his contract though.
 
Goatcheese said:
Calhoun left and the offense improved. Sherman left and the offense improved. Shanahan is leaving and the offense will likely continue to improve.

This is the Gary Kubiak show.
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Agreed, and that's a good thing. One of the biggest problems I had with Capers is that he was a very good defensive coach, yet he pretty much let Fangio run the defense, making Capers biggest strength kind of unused.

Like or dislike Kubiak, I think he deserves credit for coming in as an offensive guy, and playing to his strength.
 
WWJD said:
I think the players really liked him...always hurts to lose continuity but doesn't Kubiak have control over every play called anyway?
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What was described as the season began was Shanahan making the calls with Kubiak having override authority. How often he may have exercised that authority we don't know.

Another unknown wrinkle is the exact communication channel. At least at first Kubiak wanted to be the guy in Schaub's ear so the OC would make the call, Kubiak would either go with it or override it and then communicate it to the QB. Didn't hear who was doing the talking to Schaub this year.
 
Pollardized said:
i found a couple of obvious candidates:

Kubiak and his wife, Rhonda, have three sons, Klint, Klay, and Klein. Klint is a fifth-year safety and Klay is a sophomore quarterback at Colorado State. Klein is a freshman wide receiver at Rice
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He must be good friend with Roger Clemens. All the "K" kids names. I'd hate to be named a really easy name to spell like "Clint" or "Clay" and have to correct the spelling for everybody cause my parents decided to get cute with the "K's"....
 
should be an interesting game next year against the Skins. All these guys know the other so well..playcalling wise and all.
 
WWJD said:
He must be good friend with Roger Clemens. All the "K" kids names. I'd hate to be named a really easy name to spell like "Clint" or "Clay" and have to correct the spelling for everybody cause my parents decided to get cute with the "K's"....
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Man he gets cute with the play calling and kids names......it's starting to make sense now...
 
Goldensilence said:
Man he gets cute with the play calling and kids names......it's starting to make sense now...
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I heard that his wife wanted to name them with "C" to begin each name, but that Gary overrode that call and went with "K' instead.

You have to admit that we make a pretty good team, Goldensilence...
 
Goldensilence said:
Man he gets cute with the play calling and kids names......it's starting to make sense now...
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I work at a fairly large church..parents are naming their kids more "cutesy" names like this all the time (although Kube's are grown men really) and it's murder on the staff when you have simple names and make a name tag and it's spelled wrong cause the parent decided to spell like this.

Kinda silly comments on my part..so back to topic...
 
Kubiak will find someone to run the offense exactly the way he wants it run, or he'll run it himself next year. Either way, I don't think we'll see a drop off. In fact, with an improved O-line and a legit RB we'll be even better.

That is if we improve the O-line and get ourselves a legit RB. Even doing just one of those two will help considerably.
 
WWJD said:
I work at a fairly large church..parents are naming their kids more "cutesy" names like this all the time (although Kube's are grown men really) and it's murder on the staff when you have simple names and make a name tag and it's spelled wrong cause the parent decided to spell like this.

Kinda silly comments on my part..so back to topic...
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No, I'm with you on this one.

There's a girl whose name is Savanna and I spelled her name Savannah.

She says to me, in all seriousness, "Everybody puts an 'h' at the end of my name. I don't know why they do that."

:duh:
 
And Redskins/Elder Shanny are in contract talks now. Little Shannys good as gone, office prolly packed up already.

I really hope we go for a big name Ocord that Kubes can rely on, and provide little management over. Kubes needs to 100% focus on HC.
 
I'm an L&D nurse, and I always ask my patients what they plan to name their baby. There are times I've had to get out of the room fast so I could laugh. You simply would NOT believe what the next generation will have to deal with! Poor kids!!
 
I read a book on Clemens and he did it as an ego thing..named his kids with the K's..for strikeouts.

It annoys me all these weird names but that's just me! Weird spellings anyway.

The Hollywood celeb crowd takes the cake for weird baby names though..they're way worse than the athletes.

anyway..back to topic..I think Munchak would be a good choice for OC.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Chron article



Out of those guys, I think Dennison and Musgrave might be good fits. If Shanahan goes Redskins, I think both the Texans and Redskins may want to raid the Denver coaches some more.

I don't see Gailey, and though I'd like Munchak to be away from the Titans, I'm not sure he is a good fit with Kubiak. I think they want to avoid the Kubiak-Sherman sort of thing again--where the OC has a different philosophy than the head coach. That's how I see the "same page" sort of comment, and why Kubiak was very happy getting Shanahan as a replacement for Sherman--because he knew the system very well.

Also, I would suggest Brian Pariani. He knows that offense as well as anyone on the Texans. Pariani is very close to Kubiak and a sensible guy.
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Good list and as expected. I think its going to be musgrave. He's a true west coast principle guy, a backup qb/qb coach and has called plays before. I think hiring musgrave would allow kubes to just focus on h.c. stuff because stuff would be delegated. I would be surprised if it wasnt Musgrave.
 
Goldensilence said:
I saw a few names come up, but I think with a lame duck contract year it's going to be hard to get the one guy I saw listed that Kubiak might respect enough to let the play calling go to and that's Chan Gailey.
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Yeah if that keeps Chan Gailey out of Houston I am all for that.
 
infantrycak said:
What was described as the season began was Shanahan making the calls with Kubiak having override authority. How often he may have exercised that authority we don't know.

Another unknown wrinkle is the exact communication channel. At least at first Kubiak wanted to be the guy in Schaub's ear so the OC would make the call, Kubiak would either go with it or override it and then communicate it to the QB. Didn't hear who was doing the talking to Schaub this year.
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Obviously I'm not certain, but I think Shanny Jr was the one talking directly to Schaub. It seemed like every time Schaub came off the field he went directly to Shanny. So it kinda makes sense.
 
Kubiak wanted Dennison originally or at least recently and Shannihan wouldn't let him go. Kubiak wanted Bush originally and Arizona wouldn't let him go.

I think that could be a very strong case for why he would be the front runner in my eyes. Plus he seems to be the clearest fit for the current system. I don't see them wanting to change. They have made a case over and over from Mr. McNair down that consistency is the model that they are following.

Pariani meets those same requirements.
 
barrett said:
Kubiak wanted Dennison originally or at least recently and Shannihan wouldn't let him go. Kubiak wanted Bush originally and Arizona wouldn't let him go.

I think that could be a very strong case for why he would be the front runner in my eyes. Plus he seems to be the clearest fit for the current system. I don't see them wanting to change. They have made a case over and over from Mr. McNair down that consistency is the model that they are following.

Pariani meets those same requirements.
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McClain seemed pretty confident that there were no serious in-house candidates. Say what you will about McClain, but his info. on stuff like this is almost always spot-on.
 
GP said:
I heard that his wife wanted to name them with "C" to begin each name, but that Gary overrode that call and went with "K' instead.

You have to admit that we make a pretty good team, Goldensilence...
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That explains why he stuck with Kris brown all season...
 
SheTexan said:
I'm an L&D nurse, and I always ask my patients what they plan to name their baby. There are times I've had to get out of the room fast so I could laugh. You simply would NOT believe what the next generation will have to deal with! Poor kids!!
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Female Johnson .
 
ChampionTexan said:
McClain seemed pretty confident that there were no serious in-house candidates. Say what you will about McClain, but his info. on stuff like this is almost always spot-on.
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When? I listened to his phone interview on 610 and I read his article on Chron.com. I'm reading the chat right now. When did he say that he was confident there were no serious in-house candidates? I understand he listed the 4 "front runners" but I'm just not remembering anytime he seemed to suggest that in-house was not an option.
 
I would like Rick Dennison. He stepped right in after Kubes left and had Cutler looking like a future super star. He knows exactly what we're doing here in the passing and running game, so it would be a seamless transition.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Obviously I'm not certain, but I think Shanny Jr was the one talking directly to Schaub. It seemed like every time Schaub came off the field he went directly to Shanny. So it kinda makes sense.
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Things is I remember something like this happening with Kubiak/Sherman and only in the last few years did Kubiak not speak through Sherman and likewise talked more to the QB's on the sideline since Sherman was watching the D. I remember something like that being described when Kubiak came here I believe when Sherman was OC. Seems like Kubiak and Sherman are theoretically OK not talking to the QB directly but only after the privilege is earned.
 
I'm thinking Mike Martz or Rodney Dangerfield off the top of my head. I haven't read this thread and I've said this before but I'd love to see us get a guy like Mike Munchak and let him come in and grab his day in the Sun. Hell, who here thinks Kubiak is going to let anyone but him call the Stagger Kubes next season? Bring in Munch! Munchak will instill all the toughness you want out of your offense.
 
barrett said:
When? I listened to his phone interview on 610 and I read his article on Chron.com. I'm reading the chat right now. When did he say that he was confident there were no serious in-house candidates? I understand he listed the 4 "front runners" but I'm just not remembering anytime he seemed to suggest that in-house was not an option.
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He was on for a very short spot on 610 right after Kubiak's show, and they asked him point blank about in-house candidates, and he indicated they weren't seriously looking at anybody currently on staff. The only four names he mentioned were (in no particular order), Munchak, Gailey, Dennison, and Musgrave. I got the feeling he's pretty certain it's gonna be one of those four guys with either Musgrave or Dennison being the odds-on-favorite (This was my inference, nothing he said in so many words).
 
Vinny said:
I'm thinking Mike Martz or Rodney Dangerfield off the top of my head. I haven't read this thread and I've said this before but I'd love to see us get a guy like Mike Munchak and let him come in and grab his day in the Sun. Hell, who here thinks Kubiak is going to let anyone but him call the Stagger Kubes next season? Bring in Munch! Munchak will instill all the toughness you want out of your offense.
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I agree Vinny! Let him finally get his SB ring as a TEXAN!!:)
 
ChampionTexan said:
He was on for a very short spot on 610 right after Kubiak's show, and they asked him point blank about in-house candidates, and he indicated they weren't seriously looking at anybody currently on staff. The only four names he mentioned were (in no particular order), Munchak, Gailey, Dennison, and Musgrave. I got the feeling he's pretty certain it's gonna be one of those four guys with either Musgrave or Dennison being the odds-on-favorite (This was my inference, nothing he said in so many words).
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I just read the chat and he makes a somewhat deadpan comment again about those four. I just wasn't sure if he had out right said it. Thanks.
 
I think this choice is less about the play CALLING than the play BOOK. Whoever comes in as offensive coordinator, I'm betting that Kubiak hands him the current playbook and tells him "This is how we do things here." Given their offensive success over the last couple of years, I have no problem with that.

Keep in mind, Kubiak works with his offensive coordinator to script the first plays of the game. I understand that they script the first plays of the second half as well. Then Kubiak reserves the right to veto individual plays during the game. With that level of involvement by Kubiak, the offensive coordinator is more of a subordinate handling details than a coach controlling the offense. I don't think the Texans' defensive coordinator works this way; I believe Bush has much more independence in what he does.

Most big-name candidates aren't likely to want to work this way, so my guess is that Kubiak promotes from within, gets a Denver system guy, or gets someone who is smart but not too independent.
 
gtexan02 said:
He said if his dad gets a job this year, he's 100% gone
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Yeh but once again is it official? You guys are acting like it is a done deal. Any links to direct quotes or anything more than hearsay? He is insane if he leaves here and goes to Washington.
 
SheTexan said:
I agree Vinny! Let him finally get his SB ring as a TEXAN!!:)
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I may be wrong but I'd bet Bud would rather run through a guantlet of pit bulls wearing porkchop underwear than let Munchak come to the Texans .

Munchak , at the end of his career , graded out at 96% in a game basically with one knee , that's what you need .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I may be wrong but I'd bet Bud would rather run through a guantlet of pit bulls wearing porkchop underwear than let Munchak come to the Texans .

Munchak , at the end of his career , graded out at 96% in a

It would not be appropriate for me to say on this board what my true feeling are about Bud Adams!! Think BAD, and you have it!! :)

Hopefully, Munch has an "outie" clause in his contract. We can only hope. How exciting would it be to have both Munch and Matthews on our sideline! Maybe some of those meatball fans would see the light and jump off the wagon, not that I would truly want them to hop on ours!!:pop: They will forever be tainted and would stink up the place!!
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mussop said:
Yeh but once again is it official? You guys are acting like it is a done deal. Any links to direct quotes or anything more than hearsay? He is insane if he leaves here and goes to Washington.
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It's not official because his dad hasn't signed his contract with the Skins yet but they are working out the details on it.

I heard it'll be done (his dad's contract) within the next 48 hours...ESPN radio.
 
Lil Shanny might be making a big career mistake following his father to Washington. This Texans team has a high powered offense, capable of putting numbers up against anyone and he wants to go to Washington? To take the same job? Not a promotion? I know blood is thicker than water, but if he stayed here and this team goes places, which is the general consensus, he could probably have his pick of teams to be the Head coach of. Just saying.
 
mussop said:
Yeh but once again is it official? You guys are acting like it is a done deal. Any links to direct quotes or anything more than hearsay? He is insane if he leaves here and goes to Washington.
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On the Houston Texans official web site, under the title "Kubiak Preparing for Shanahan's Likely Departure."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6002

"It's going to be very hard to leave because of everything we've accomplished," Shanahan said to the Houston Chronicle. "I work with a lot of good people, but I've always wanted to work with my dad. If he comes back, I think the timing will be right."
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Not at all. Kubiak will find somebody else he is comfortable with to dump off the part of the OC job he doesn't want to do (can't say I blame him) and keep right on being our HC/OC like he always has been.
 
He wants to coach with his dad. That overrides his ambition apparently. And the opportunity is there.
 
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