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David Carr's on the right track...

hollywood_texan said:
Once again...

Man Law?
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That's pretty good bringing that up.

NO thanks Hollywood, I ain't into that.

http://www.manlaws.com/

EDIT:

Actually after reviewing the Square Table film, I think I have I-dentified Carr's leadership style. His play is so ambiguous that it brings everyone together to try and figure it out. Thank you Burt. That's the best thing you have done since the Little Whorehouse.
 
beerlover said:
you had better adjust otherwise its gonna be a long, long, long season

we have had this discussion, I was also on board with selecting Vince Young, but they did not....... get over it.......Carr is an upgrade of Plummer nothing more nothing less and if the Texans are going to go as deep into the playoffs as Denver did with Jake the focus will be defensive :fireball:
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I never mentioned Vince Young. You get over putting words in my mouth.
 
hollywood_texan said:
That is hilarious!!!!
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My best friend is always breaking man law in regards to leaving your beer. He always takes his, and if I leave mine, he drinks it all by the next day!

There has to be some sort of man court, man cops, and man jail for breaking man law. His punishment should be 3 weekends of doing whatever his wife wants, whenever she wants and is not allowed to complain about it. Complaining would result in one month of weekends spent at the in-laws.
 
I wish I could remember those games with such detail....... I'm only 34, and I have a hard time remembering what I said yesterday.
 
TEXANRED said:
My best friend is always breaking man law in regards to leaving your beer. He always takes his, and if I leave mine, he drinks it all by the next day!

There has to be some sort of man court, man cops, and man jail for breaking man law. His punishment should be 3 weekends of doing whatever his wife wants, whenever she wants and is not allowed to complain about it. Complaining would result in one month of weekends spent at the in-laws.
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Men of the square table,

If your best friend is a repeat offender of the said offenses, then he should be marked as such:

Look cute while rooting for your favorite team by wearing this Houston Texans David Carr girls jersey.
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http://store.houstontexans.com/prod...innav_gear_txt&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family

That'll straighten him out. Or at least it will be out.

Besides complaining about the wife is already against man law. I think.
 
texan279 said:
As much as I defend Carr I agree with your take here, those plays were nothing special at all. I could have probably made that 1st down against Atlanta with my 2 bum knees :crutch: .
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

NOW the crazy talk is really coming down.

"I can do that!" :pigfly:

Geez........
 
Vinny said:
this is really sad. The play vs Atlanta was a run with no defenders near him and he wasn't even smart enough to get down on the ground with his bad shoulder. The goal line "juke" wasn't anything but a one yard bootleg. The one yard leap...well, that was a one yard leap. These don't show me he can 'play'. It shows me he can run when not covered or run for a yard on the goal line.
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Man, you are soooooooooooo bitter about Carr.

Oh well, he's the QB and I bet he's going to play better this year.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
Man, you are soooooooooooo bitter about Carr.

Oh well, he's the QB and I bet he's going to play better this year.
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WE SHALL SEE :ok: We all hope the same thing!
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
Man, you are soooooooooooo bitter about Carr.

Oh well, he's the QB and I bet he's going to play better this year.
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Search my posts. I'm not bitter just because you say I'm bitter.

I could provide examples of 'great QB play' from Carr but pointing out those plays as proof he is a heck of a QB was weak....one yard runs or a scramble where there is nothing but open tundra aren't what I'd consider great examples of superior play. Just because I comment on his game doesn't mean I'm bitter about anything. I just comment on the players honestly. I'm not much of a sunshine pumper. If I saw great play, I'd say it.
 
Vinny said:
Search my posts. I'm not bitter just because you say I'm bitter.

I could provide examples of 'great QB play' from Carr but pointing out those plays as proof he is a heck of a QB was weak....one yard runs or a scramble where there is nothing but open tundra aren't what I'd consider great examples of superior play. Just because I comment on his game doesn't mean I'm bitter about anything. I just comment on the players honestly. I'm not much of a sunshine pumper. If I saw great play, I'd say it.
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Yea man Vinny is not bitter about Carr at all infact I think that he hopes Carr blows everyones doors off this year. Vinny atleast unlike some people have constructive things to say about the guy, instead of just dogging him 24 7.

And if any of you have a questin about Carr I will be more then happy to set you straight.:cool:
 
I think DC had miserable coaching and I also think that he does what he is told....probably almost to a fault. I don't have any doubt he will play better this year. I could point to the Minnesota game or the Titan game over a year ago or even the Cards game...or the beautiful pass to Mathis in the end zone if I wanted to shine a light on his good stuff....but scrambles as a glimpse of his greatness was just weak.
 
Vinny said:
this is really sad. The play vs Atlanta was a run with no defenders near him and he wasn't even smart enough to get down on the ground with his bad shoulder. The goal line "juke" wasn't anything but a one yard bootleg. The one yard leap...well, that was a one yard leap. These don't show me he can 'play'. It shows me he can run when not covered or run for a yard on the goal line.
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HOLD ON A SECOND BRO..................:)

Sorry he can not run a 4.2 40 and shake every living thing in the world, but do not for a second down size those plays, he made a play when he had to, when people counted on him.

So honestly tell me that you were not up cheering for the "leap", and the "Atlanta run",2 of those plays were for TDs, game winners if I believe. The Atlanta run he did not have to go in, he was hurt could bearley raise his arm drove them down and scored.

Jacksonville, you can not tell me with a straight face you were the only one not cheering. Those are some great moments here, very few as of now but great moments for fans.

Now dont take what I said to heart not trying to start nothing, but come on Vinny you did not cheer, not at all?:um:

Now I seem to remember that is what Vince Young run looked like on the game winning score too vs the Trojans.
Now the opposite of smart is stupid.:muscles:
 
I really don't think that a one yard plunge or a one yard naked boot are good examples of great quarterbacking. I see you dog on VY when someone mentions his running but its GREAT when Carr runs? Come on bro...don't be inconsistent.
 
Vinny said:
Search my posts. I'm not bitter just because you say I'm bitter.

I could provide examples of 'great QB play' from Carr but pointing out those plays as proof he is a heck of a QB was weak....one yard runs or a scramble where there is nothing but open tundra aren't what I'd consider great examples of superior play. Just because I comment on his game doesn't mean I'm bitter about anything. I just comment on the players honestly. I'm not much of a sunshine pumper. If I saw great play, I'd say it.
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You are bitter, admitt it, its O.K. You are Vinny "David Carr is a hack" MB adminstrator. Its O.K. As you have pointed ever so painfully though the years, its your opinion and you are entittled to it. Thats fine. Hey the first steps to the road to recovery are admitting to yourself how you truely feel. Self denial is not a good thing.

Your kinda covering your grounds here, if David does well and proves he is a star in this league, then you can say "I never said David wasen't good, only saying that he wasen't performing to his expectations at that time." Now if he does bad you can say "He sucked and I told you so."

I do agree with you when you say there is a gray area and not everything is in black and white, but as I have said earlier you have never said anything positive about David Carr. I challenge you. Say somthing positive about his game. Somthing. Anything.

I will give you a play. Year two, Saints, QB keeper, breaks the Saints CB's ankles off as he walks into the end-zone.

He has finished #1 over the last three years as the AFC's #1 rushing QB.

Hopefully all our arguments are laid to rest after this year.
 
I talk about Carr and you guys bash me as a person. Nice. That's why I don't like talking football with you Carr fans. You can't just discuss his game without getting personal.
 
Vinny said:
I really don't think that a one yard plunge or a one yard naked boot are good examples of great quarterbacking. I see you dog on VY when someone mentions his running but its GREAT when Carr runs? Come on bro...don't be inconsistent.
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Bro never said they were great not one time. But two of those runs were in the final minutes when we needed to score and we did, by getting good field possition on the Atlanta run. 2-0 in those 2 games.

Then it goes the same with you , Now hold on, dont say that Carrs run was not something impressive, when you think that VYs run with no one around was.
And I never dogged him, when was it I just flat out said something that was not true about Vince. dont bring up old stuff, I was angry during the draft. :)
 
Hulk75 said:
Then it goes the same with you , Now hold on, dont say that Carrs run was not something impressive, when you think that VYs run with no one around was.
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I've never seen VY play as a pro. Correct me on that if I am wrong.
 
Vinny said:
I've never seen VY play as a pro. Correct me on that if I am wrong.
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My head hurts, was it not the same kind of run?

They both drop back and take off running and nobody touches either of them.
 
TEXANRED said:
I do agree with you when you say there is a gray area and not everything is in black and white, but as I have said earlier you have never said anything positive about David Carr. I challenge you. Say somthing positive about his game. Somthing. Anything.
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All you have to do is scroll up. I said something nice in post 314. All you haters need to give it a rest....just because you type something about me doesn't make it true.
 
Hulk75 said:
My head hurts, was it not the same kind of run?
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What the heck are you talking about anyway? I have zero game film to review on Young as a Pro. I don't compare the College game to the pro game.
 
Vinny said:
I talk about Carr and you guys bash me as a person. Nice. That's why I don't like talking football with you Carr fans. You can't just discuss his game without getting personal.
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Am I bashing? I apologize if you feel that way. More playing with you at this point, there is nothing left that can be said. For the last two years on this MB both you and I have yet to say anything new. I say he has potential and you don't see it.

Nothing will change until we start winning games.

I am considering making a big banner for the Texan/Eagle home opener that says "Come on David and prove Vinny wrong.":)
 
TEXANRED said:
Am I bashing? I apologize if you feel that way. More playing with you at this point, there is nothing left that can be said. For the last two years on this MB both you and I have yet to say anything new. I say he has potential and you don't see it.

Nothing will change until we start winning games.

I am considering making a big banner for the Texan/Eagle home opener that says "Come on David and prove Vinny wrong.":)
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I have said the same thing for 4 years and the long timers know I just give my honest take on things, so far I've been right to date. Perhaps in year 5 you have a shot.
 
Vinny said:
I think DC had miserable coaching and I also think that he does what he is told....probably almost to a fault. I don't have any doubt he will play better this year. I could point to the Minnesota game or the Titan game over a year ago or even the Cards game...or the beautiful pass to Mathis in the end zone if I wanted to shine a light on his good stuff....but scrambles as a glimpse of his greatness was just weak.
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Thats a backhanded compliment, but something nice never the less.

You proved me wrong.

No, thats impossible, I can't be wrong.:hides: Now look at what you have done.
 
Vinny said:
What the heck are you talking about anyway? I have zero game film to review on Young as a Pro. I don't compare the College game to the pro game.
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Stop man, dont take me for some guy that does not know crap.

Dont say Carrs run was not good and think Vince Youngs was.

Stop sending this thing off into no were, I had a anwser for everyone of your comments on the guy, now just answer one mine............

Then it goes the same with you , Now hold on, dont say that Carrs run was not something impressive, when you think that VYs run with no one around was.
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They both drop back and take off running and nobody touches either of them.
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I know better than to discuss David Carr on the Texans board. I should just keep my thoughts to myself. My bad. I'll go back to talking football with my friends in PMs and instant messages.
 
The answer is....I beg out...you guys talk about David all you want.

Have a good one guys.
 
Thanks Vinny, I appreciate it. Thanks for the answer.

What did I win for Stumping the Schwab? ......................little joke:)
 
Vinny said:
The answer is....I beg out...you guys talk about David all you want.

Have a good one guys.
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Its no fun if everyone sits around and agree all the time.

And I am finishing up my 67th hour of work for the week, almost time to go home and nothing else to do.

This is Tkyss's fault anyways for even starting a David Carr thread. He should be put in Man Jail.
 
One last post I guess...

I don't look for agreement. Most who have read me over the years fully understand that I enjoy diverse opinion. In 5 or so years posting here I have just learned to just bail on some threads and should just keep my opinion to myself at times. I get frustrated and it just comes out badly. Nobody can make me look like a fool except for me...and I'm trying to stop hammering myself.
 
There should be a time limit on some threads. So many days and the thread becomes unpostable. Of course, then anybody could just start a new thread on the same subject, so....well....I'm an idiot, nevermind. :rolleyes:
 
the reason this is such a hot topic because the #1 Need of the Texans this off season was to determin if David Carr was going to remain the QB plain and simple. believe me I saw alot of the same things and agree with Vinny on the whole as it relates to the position and Davids difficutlies so far. David Carr is a running QB that does not look to run, rather to throw on the run to be effective something that is ingrained in Kubiak & his system all the way back to his playing days with Elway in Denver.

David Carr stands a hell of alot better chance to address his running/passing in year 5 given his abilites paired with Kubiaks offensive scheme. As fans we have to sit and endure the powers that be decesion making regardless how we post here or call into the radio stations or emal the Texans. You have to roll with the punches and stand behind your team no matter what, still the Texans will rue the day they passed on Vince Young. Given a year to prepare he would be ready to assume the starting role at the same time raising Carr's stock (1st rd. pick) in any future trade :twocents:
 
Kaiser Toro said:
If you don't know, you better axe somebody.
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Very, very bad man...
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gpshafer_1976 said:
Man, you are soooooooooooo bitter about Carr.

Oh well, he's the QB and I bet he's going to play better this year.
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So you agree David Carr needs to play better??

end of story................. 'nuff said.
 
chuckm said:
I just asked my wife ...... she rolled her eyes ..... is that a yes or no?
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I asked mine too, she smacked me and told me she's tired of hearing about football all year round...Bet she's gonna be upset when she finds out (in my best Willy Wonka voice) I got NFL Sunday ticket, I got NFL Sunday ticket! :shoot: :crutch:
 
texan279 said:
I asked mine too, she smacked me and told me she's tired of hearing about football all year round...Bet she's gonna be upset when she finds out (in my best Willy Wonka voice) I got NFL Sunday ticket, I got NFL Sunday ticket! :shoot: :crutch:
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SWEET count me in ...... you like Bud Light?
 
chuckm said:
I just asked my wife ...... she rolled her eyes ..... is that a yes or no?
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It actually was a non sense response. I may be the only one that gets the humor outside of 15 others. You see Chuck sometimes I like to wear stretchy pants and laugh at my own obscure jokes.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
It actually was a non sense response. I may be the only one that gets the humor outside of 15 others. You see Chuck sometimes I like to wear stretchy pants and laugh at my own obscure jokes.
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I've known the value of stretchy pants for about 25 years now ..... well ever since take out pizza became popular
 
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