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CJ Stroud year 2

Earl34 said:
Exactly from where are you pulling they should win 10 games? Besides you. Is anyone on the planet predicting the Texans can win 10 games?

Looking at the schedule, pick out the 10 games they should win.
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If everything went perfect and they had a lot of luck, I could see a possible 10 wins maybe.
 
Earl34 said:
Exactly from where are you pulling they should win 10 games? Besides you. Is anyone on the planet predicting the Texans can win 10 games?

Looking at the schedule, pick out the 10 games they should win.
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Indy
Atlanta
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Arizona
Cleveland
Panthers
Bucs
Broncos

They beat one of Jags, Colts, Titans twice.

This doesn't take into account that they could very well beat the Steelers or Saints.
 
steelbtexan said:
Indy
Atlanta
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Arizona
Cleveland
Panthers
Bucs
Broncos

They beat one of Jags, Colts, Titans twice.

This doesn't take into account that they could very well beat the Steelers or Saints.
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Thanks for the detailed response. After the last couple of years, I would gladly take 10 wins. However, looking at your expected wins, it seems you’re expecting the Texans to go undefeated at home.

If that’s the case. NFL teams win approximately 60% of their home games. If they are underdogs, they win 35% of their home games. You have them winning 100% of their home games.

I’m not sure that is realistic when not even the Chiefs, Eagles or any recent Super Bowl champions are going undefeated at home.
 
Earl34 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. After the last couple of years, I would gladly take 10 wins. However, looking at your expected wins, it seems you’re expecting the Texans to go undefeated at home.

If that’s the case. NFL teams win approximately 60% of their home games. If they are underdogs, they win 35% of their home games. You have them winning 100% of their home games.

I’m not sure that is realistic when not even the Chiefs, Eagles or any recent Super Bowl champions are going undefeated at home.
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.....if Stroud fails to go undefeated at Home, then he was the expected failure as predicted (steelb), the McNair's cashed in on that failure...so they don't care, and all offensive staff members will be forced to walk the Pink Slip Mile b/c Stroud's incompetence put them in the bread line. Talk about an ugly prediction.

Me, I'm going to stick with a range of 6-9 victories in phase 2.5 of the overhaul. If they hit the high point of 9 wins, it could be enough to win the division. If they were to make the playoffs.....I guess their potential success would depend on when and how they won the majority of those 9 games. Strong wins down the stretch and they could make some noise in the playoffs and not be a doormat, a huge positive and building point at this juncture.
 
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Earl34 said:
However, looking at your expected wins, it seems you’re expecting the Texans to go undefeated at home.
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Not quite... Steelers and Saints are also @ home. I don't believe they will beat both the Falcons and the Panthers on the road nor do I think they go 4-2 in the division. If they have a lot of luck they may win one of Steelers or Saints, but both are before the bye so very iffy
 
Earl34 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. After the last couple of years, I would gladly take 10 wins. However, looking at your expected wins, it seems you’re expecting the Texans to go undefeated at home.

If that’s the case. NFL teams win approximately 60% of their home games. If they are underdogs, they win 35% of their home games. You have them winning 100% of their home games.

I’m not sure that is realistic when not even the Chiefs, Eagles or any recent Super Bowl champions are going undefeated at home.
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They easily could beat the division does on the road and lose at NRG.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
.....if Stroud fails to go undefeated at Home, then he was the expected failure as predicted (steelb), the McNair's cashed in on that failure...so they don't care, and all offensive staff members will be forced to walk the Pink Slip Mile b/c Stroud's dumbness/stupidity put them in the bread line. Talk about an ugly prediction.

Me, I'm going to stick with a range of 6-9 victories in 2.5 phase of the overhaul. If they hit the high point of 9 wins, it could be enough to win the division. If they were to make the playoffs.....I guess that would depend on when and how they won the majority of those 9 games. Strong wins down the stretch and they could make some noise in the playoffs and not be a doormat, a huge positive and building point at this juncture.
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Fixed it for you.
 
Guys, Steel is just laying the groundwork for his gotcha moment later. He says they should win 10, but will likely win 6 or 7. That 6 or 7 is just about right for this team, and when it happens he will then turn around and say told you guys so. This Mulagetta trash held us down, and Cal forced that pick on the team and is only interested in butts in seats. Sure, the team was more entertaining this year but you won’t win a SB with this low S2, low IQ QB. We should have tanked for Caleb.

I can pretty much write his post. It’s build the narrative, set the trap, add the cheese, and wait for the bait to do its magic, then boom. The trap closes. I’m a friend of Steel, he adds some spice…but let’s not lie either. He is selling a narrative so that he can pull the rug out from underneath it later.
 
mws said:
This is the best list I could come up with of !st year HCs to win 10 or more games since 2000. There are probably others I did not find but it is not common at all. These are HCs in the first year of being promoted to HC not HCs moving from one team to another (ex. Parcells who was 10-6 in 2003 with the Cowboys in his first year.).

2018 - Matt Nagy Bears 12-4
2017 - Sean McVay Rams 11-5
2008 - John Harbaugh Ravens 11-5
2018 - Frank Reich Colts 10-6
2006 - Sean Payton Saints 10-6
2016 - Adam Gase Dolphins 10-6
2007 - Mike Tomlin Stealers 10-6
2013 - Bruce Arians Cardinals 10-6 *

* Don't if Arians fully qualifies as a first year HC at the Cardinals since he was acting HC for weeks 5 through 16 in 2012 with the Colts while Chuck Pagano was being treated for cancer. But Arians led the Colts to a 9–3 record & if he had coached all year he would have probably won at least 10 games.
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Not so much about winning 10 games in first season as significantly improving a team and being a sustained winner.

Nagy - One hit wonder, never had a winning season after that and was fired after 4 years
Harbaugh - Billick was 13-3 two seasons before Harbaugh got there, but obviously a sustained winner
Reich - Pagano had that team in the AFCCG a few years before and Luck was CPOY in 2018 after missing 2017
Payton - Saints were a .500 team for several seasons before he got there, went 7-9 and 8-8 after that first season (IMO one of the most overrated coaches in the game)
Gase - Dolphins were a 7-9 type team for several seasons before he got there under Sparano and Philbin, was his only winning season and fired after Year 3
Tomlin - took over a Steelers team from Cowher that had won a Super Bowl two seasons before
 
Porky said:
Guys, Steel is just laying the groundwork for his gotcha moment later. He says they should win 10, but will likely win 6 or 7. That 6 or 7 is just about right for this team, and when it happens he will then turn around and say told you guys so. This Mulagetta trash held us down, and Cal forced that pick on the team and is only interested in butts in seats. Sure, the team was more entertaining this year but you won’t win a SB with this low S2, low IQ QB. We should have tanked for Caleb.

I can pretty much write his post. It’s build the narrative, set the trap, add the cheese, and wait for the bait to do its magic, then boom. The trap closes. I’m a friend of Steel, he adds some spice…but let’s not lie either. He is selling a narrative so that he can pull the rug out from underneath it later.
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Oh but if we do win 10 games. Him and his crew will take it to another level. Dang if I do and dang if I don’t.
 
Porky said:
Guys, Steel is just laying the groundwork for his gotcha moment later. He says they should win 10, but will likely win 6 or 7. That 6 or 7 is just about right for this team, and when it happens he will then turn around and say told you guys so. This Mulagetta trash held us down, and Cal forced that pick on the team and is only interested in butts in seats. Sure, the team was more entertaining this year but you won’t win a SB with this low S2, low IQ QB. We should have tanked for Caleb.

I can pretty much write his post. It’s build the narrative, set the trap, add the cheese, and wait for the bait to do its magic, then boom. The trap closes. I’m a friend of Steel, he adds some spice…but let’s not lie either. He is selling a narrative so that he can pull the rug out from underneath it later.
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Exactly. This has to be one of his weakest, most obvious attempts. This is not his best work.
 
banned1976 said:
Funny thing is, unless I'm missing something he hasn't posted in this thread in several days. I don't think he's posted on this board for several days. If so, the victims of his troll game are trolling themselves in a way.
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He posted today at 6am. 🤣
 
Porky said:
Guys, Steel is just laying the groundwork for his gotcha moment later. He says they should win 10, but will likely win 6 or 7. That 6 or 7 is just about right for this team, and when it happens he will then turn around and say told you guys so.
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The more I think about it, if the Texans only win 6/7 games I'm going to be more upset about the trade. Do we think the Browns are going to win less? I don't.

It makes sense that the Texans believed they would be giving up the lower draft pick, meaning they believe they'll win more games than the Browns.
 
thunderkyss said:
The more I think about it, if the Texans only win 6/7 games I'm going to be more upset about the trade. Do we think the Browns are going to win less? I don't.

It makes sense that the Texans believed they would be giving up the lower draft pick, meaning they believe they'll win more games than the Browns.
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Why be upset when you know we have a lot of unknowns. Then the fact that they have to retool the returning players mindset from losing/tanking.
 
Thorn said:
If the Texans think Will Anderson is all that hot and he's going to change the Texans defense, and the team, then they should have made the trade.

Personally, I think Stroud was a "management" pick and Anderson was a "coaches" pick (or reach).
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Junior is not a reach.

I think they had a plan to get both so that’s how it played out, if they were only getting one then it would have been Junior.
 
DBCooper said:
Junior is not a reach.

I think they had a plan to get both so that’s how it played out, if they were only getting one then it would have been Junior.
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Drafting Will Anderson at 1.3 is not a reach, it's a good pick. Throwing in another 1st round pick to make that 1.3 pick is what makes it a reach. I love the pick, I don't love the price. If he turns out to be worth it, then I'll love the price as well.
 
banned1976 said:
Funny thing is, unless I'm missing something he hasn't posted in this thread in several days. I don't think he's posted on this board for several days. If so, the victims of his troll game are trolling themselves in a way.
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I really don't understand this "troll" thing. It comes off as a "name calling" attack on a poster. Right or wrong?

Posting an opposing viewpoint is trolling? Don't agree with "me" then "you" are a troll?

If that's the case then we are all trolls at one time or another. Troll away, it's the social media way. :wesmantexanfan:

:coffee:
 
Porky said:
Guys, Steel is just laying the groundwork for his gotcha moment later. He says they should win 10, but will likely win 6 or 7. That 6 or 7 is just about right for this team, and when it happens he will then turn around and say told you guys so. This Mulagetta trash held us down, and Cal forced that pick on the team and is only interested in butts in seats. Sure, the team was more entertaining this year but you won’t win a SB with this low S2, low IQ QB. We should have tanked for Caleb.

I can pretty much write his post. It’s build the narrative, set the trap, add the cheese, and wait for the bait to do its magic, then boom. The trap closes. I’m a friend of Steel, he adds some spice…but let’s not lie either. He is selling a narrative so that he can pull the rug out from underneath it later.
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Hopefully I'm wrong and there wont be a rug to pull out from under the fans. However even if I'm wrong, you can be DM will want top money on a new contract for Stroud after yr 3. Thereby killing the chances of bringing a Lombardi to Kirby.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Oh but if we do win 10 games. Him and his crew will take it to another level. Dang if I do and dang if I don’t.
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What?

What crew?

If they win 10 games they will have accomplished more than I thought they would. Still isn't going to change what happens after yr 3. Deal with trash and you can expect to stink. It's just a matter of when.
 
banned1976 said:
Funny thing is, unless I'm missing something he hasn't posted in this thread in several days. I don't think he's posted on this board for several days. If so, the victims of his troll game are trolling themselves in a way.
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Yet speedy says I post 100 times a day everyday. The narratives around here do truly humor me.
 
thunderkyss said:
The more I think about it, if the Texans only win 6/7 games I'm going to be more upset about the trade. Do we think the Browns are going to win less? I don't.

It makes sense that the Texans believed they would be giving up the lower draft pick, meaning they believe they'll win more games than the Browns.
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Exactly, the time for lowered expectations went out the window the minute the Derrick draft capital was traded for Stroud/Anderson. This is the main reason I wanted the McNair's/Caserio to hold off drafting a QB until the better 2024 draft and hold onto the Derrick draft picks.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Why be upset when you know we have a lot of unknowns. Then the fact that they have to retool the returning players mindset from losing/tanking.
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Lowered expectations and setting the narrative if failure happens.

thunderkyss said:
Why give up the more valuable pick?
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Why give up picks at all. Why not wait for the more talented IMHO 2024 class?

Texansballer74 said:
Management said at least twice by now that they did not make any picks.
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What did you expect them to say? They're lying.


cuppacoffee said:
I really don't understand this "troll" thing. It comes off as a "name calling" attack on a poster. Right or wrong?

Posting an opposing viewpoint is trolling? Don't agree with "me" then "you" are a troll?

If that's the case then we are all trolls at one time or another. Troll away, it's the social media way. :wesmantexanfan:

:coffee:
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Calling a poster a troll because they disagree with you means you've lost the debate.
 
amazing80 said:
My guy has found a loophole to make two predictions in one post. If they win 6-7 he says, see I told ya so. If they win 10, he says see, I told ya so. Well done.
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Nope, if they win 10 games like they should, I'll be very surprised.
 
Texansballer74 said:
How is that the more valuable pick? And what makes you think that particular pick would’ve made a difference in the ( win-lose) category.
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If the Texans feel they will win 7/8 games & the Browns will win 9/10 games then the Texans pick is the more valuable pick.

Other than TexansTalk does anyone expect the Browns to win less than 7/8 games? I haven't seen it.

Therefore, if the Browns are expected to win 7/8 games it makes sense to believe the Texans (Nick/DeMeco) expect to win 9/10 games since they traded away the Texans pick
 
thunderkyss said:
If the Texans feel they will win 7/8 games & the Browns will win 9/10 games then the Texans pick is the more valuable pick.

Other than TexansTalk does anyone expect the Browns to win less than 7/8 games? I haven't seen it.

Therefore, if the Browns are expected to win 7/8 games it makes sense to believe the Texans (Nick/DeMeco) expect to win 9/10 games since they traded away the Texans pick
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Quoted for truth and Texans fans should expect less than 10 wins for this reason.
 
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