Texansballer74
The Marine
Man some of these comments are hilarious.
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Brandin Cooks to the Texans
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Man some of these comments are hilarious.
revan
Waterboy
First, I aint scrapping my knees for a game that is meaningless here at home. Second if I were to ever coach a pop warner team, Id let them do whatever they wanted, they are kids.
I have no idea how I compare to professional athletes who get paid millions of dollars to compete at a high level, but thanks tho.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
until you open the books and compare the scheme and tactical differences between what Andy Reid does with Mahomes and the hyper creative passing sets they have, and what Bill OBrien does with this passing offense. Adding speed is not magically going to make them go "toe to toe".
they better get creative. no more Nuk security blanket to save the day when all is lost. Its going to be a grind.
Thankfully we have Deshaun Watson, and thats really all we need, but stripping him of a glock and replacing him with a water gun just cant be spun in a positive way.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
isnt it ironic that you're arguing with a guy about being a practice hero, but he's bowing before a coach who prefers practice hero's to actually proven all pro type talent??
LOL
revan
Waterboy
LMAO exactly!!isnt it ironic that you're arguing with a guy about being a practice hero, but he's bowing before a coach who prefers practice hero's to actually proven all pro type talent??
LOL
RGV82
Random guy
It’s not just about missed games. It’s about effectiveness and consistency. There’s a reason he has been on 4 teams in 6 years and why he only missed 2 games last year and only had 40 receptions. His reliability is way down compared to 3-4 years ago.
Number19
Hall of Fame
No he's had only one off year - last year. 2018 was superb, as were 2017, 2016 and 2015.
He finished last season in good health and has been cleared by doctors.
Right, it was a different time. No salary cap. No need to get production from rookie contracts. Billy O doesn't have a clue about the economics of the NFL. Forget those Tunsil and Watson extensions.
Did WFV have any health issues in college? I don't recall any, but I'm old & can't remember anything.
Kenny Stills have any issues before coming here?
I think it's something in the water.
No issues for Fuller or Stills prior to joing the Texans. Fuller played at under 170 lbs at Notre Dame, but bulked up to 185 lbs for the NFL. Hasn't been healthy since.
I'm skeptical he'll return to what he was before but we'll see
austins23
Hall of Fame
Well there is the problem. The hamstrings can't take the strain of goin from flyweight to lard ass!
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
As emotional as we all get when things don't happen the way "we would like", let's see if we can analyze from Darth O'Brien's view. Being defunct of high draft picks, it seems he is loading up the offense with veterans at the skilled positions. Maybe he thinks that rookies will not be able to perform at the level he would like for this run over a 1 or 2 year period. This could possibly coincide with the thought of signing Tunsil but using the tag(s) on Watson. If Watson doesn't perform then no long term deal will be offered. Is the timeline for Watson with these other non guaranteed contracts the same? With the remaining picks available, perhaps the concentration will be on the defense (edge, DL, etc)? Is it an easier transition for college defensive players vs offensive in regards to the offense the Texans utilize? One thing I never observed is how are the other intangibles of the WRs on this team, such as blocking and selling out the pass on run plays. This is no longer about Nuk since he's gone.
Link?
I don't think he has any plan at all. He's just a clueless mess.
You're a funny guy. For years, you have been complaining that the Texans don't take chances on players who were not choir boys. All of a sudden, you're now parroting this line about BOB type players on HIS squad. Too funny.
Also, before Watson was even on the team. O'Brien has always had an All Pro WR to bail out his terrible route combinations and 1990s scheme. Let see how he dials up a crucial 3rd and 9 play without his blanket to move the chains. That's if he has a play ready.
Number19
Hall of Fame
You're likely just trolling and will attack any source I provide. But here it is:
A healthy Brandin Cooks would give Texans a speed merchant
The wide receiver, acquired in a trade with the Rams, is one of the fastest men in...
Texansballer74
The Marine
Brandin Cooks trade grade: Texans find DeAndre Hopkins replacement while Rams get a second-round pick
Bill O'Brien makes another questionable move, while the Rams eat a ton of dead money for Cooks
www.cbssports.com
Not trolling. Just include the link initially, next time.
I would guess that there would be neurologists that wouldn't pass Cooks given his concussion history, as well.
Number19
Hall of Fame
No problem being skeptical, but he finished the season with three consecutive games where he was targeted 19 times, with 11 receptions for 125 yards.
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Max
Veteran
The ban on pre-draft visits was announced 3 days before the DHop trade. If coronavirus was factoring in on this, the simple solution would be to not trade DHop. Coronavirus wasn't factoring in on this.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Did you read what our own CnD had to say on him in the injury thread?
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
Nope. Anybody worse would be a non-person.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
LOL so now we are going to downplay a guy having 5 concussions. OKAY!
Jordan Reed is a free agent, AND A TIGHT END, and he's only had 6 concussions. Logical fit for the Houston OBriens yeah?
Jordan Reed is a free agent, AND A TIGHT END, and he's only had 6 concussions. Logical fit for the Houston OBriens yeah?
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
I think it was Cal who said he was not paying Hopkins. He was still in the middle of a deal and wanted more money... kinda not a good idea. Most teams tend to dislike that thinking. After all, Cal signs the check and said he supports the trade of Hopkins. I think it was kinda like this.
OB (to Cal)- Hopkins wants a new deal
Cal- He has 3+ left on his current deal
OB- What do you want to do he is a big cog in the offense
Cal- Tell him no, if he gets upset trade him and find a WR
I like Cooks and if Watson has a bit of time he can take the top of a D. According to reports I saw he is playing outside, not the slot
Side note if it was Smith...we would have traded for a TE and then draft a TE or 2 instead of a need position
I trust an informed surgeon to know better than someone like you
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
The Brandin Cooks trade is yet another potential disaster in the making for Bill O'Brien - riversmccown.com
I’ve been writing about football for a little over 10 years now, so I’ve been around the block enough to know that the reaction to the DeAndre Hopkins trade being largely negative was a one-time thing. It was a perfect storm of things that most fans hate: — Bad value in return.— Trading away an...
www.riversmccown.com
The Brandin Cooks Trade Continues Bill O’Brien’s Awful Offseason for the Ages
Houston’s head coach and GM has made iffy moves before, but in the past month he’s put together his bad decision-making masterpiece
www.theringer.com
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
OBrien was also outcoached by a rookie coach and inferior talent base in the INDY game last year.
HOld on now, dont forget the awesome Raider playoff game victory versus the legend that is Connor Cook.
It's not about the money. It's about wanting to redo his deal with 3 years left. Rumor is he actually started talking about it a year ago, i.e. with 4 years left.
I understand where he's coming from, the market jump was huge, I think when Julio did his deal. But the Texans didn't even want to talk about it & before things got out of hand, they traded him.
JWLCASPER
Waterboy
I have a lot to say about this offseason, both to rationalize certain moves BOb has made while also interjecting with why I may or may not agree at certain points, but for sake of message board etiquette, I will keep this to Cooks. One underrated aspect to the new look Texans I haven’t seemed to have seen mentioned on this board much is Carl Smith as the QB coach to Watson. In 2014 and 2015, Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks went to back to back title games utilizing small, shifty WR that excelled in getting open when the play broke down. The Seahawks did not have a true number 1, but instead usually scored by Russ Wilson making unscripted plays and allowing his faster, shifty WR to win the broken plays.
In 2014, the year the Seahawks won the championship their WR were:
5’11 200 Percy Harvin
5’10 192 Doug Baldwin
6’1 180 Paul Richardson
6’1 210 Jermaine Kearse
In 2015, the should have been back to back year, their WR were:
5’10 182 Tyler Lockett
5’10 192 Doug Baldwin
6’1 210 Jermaine Kearse
I believe that Jack Easterby personally vouched for Cooks while Carl Smith vouched for an offense without a true number 1. For all we know, and this is personal conjecture, Carl Smith and BOb may have felt Hopkins was holding Watson back from growing into the QB he could be, because Hopkins was constantly telling Watson he wasn’t really covered and to throw it though there were clearly better options during certain plays. I will not state if I agree or not, but I wanted that thought process disseminated for board consumption.
There have been articles popping up during this Pandemic of teams fearing how there is potential to bomb this draft due to the shift in the offseason and usual preparation for both pre-draft and training camp for rookies. I believe that Houston is one of those teams. I actually take solace in knowing that Houston has less chance to blow it in this draft. If there was a draft I wouldn’t mind moving draft capital for known commodities, it would be in this environment. Add in BOb’s apparent self awareness that he doesn’t do well teaching and implementing draft picks in their first season, especially WR, this appears to be a move that was done with input from the numerous moving parts of whatever the organizational structure the Texans have.
I am waiting with intrigue and hope that it works. I have my reservations that it will, but I also know that it HAS.
JWL
In 2014, the year the Seahawks won the championship their WR were:
5’11 200 Percy Harvin
5’10 192 Doug Baldwin
6’1 180 Paul Richardson
6’1 210 Jermaine Kearse
In 2015, the should have been back to back year, their WR were:
5’10 182 Tyler Lockett
5’10 192 Doug Baldwin
6’1 210 Jermaine Kearse
I believe that Jack Easterby personally vouched for Cooks while Carl Smith vouched for an offense without a true number 1. For all we know, and this is personal conjecture, Carl Smith and BOb may have felt Hopkins was holding Watson back from growing into the QB he could be, because Hopkins was constantly telling Watson he wasn’t really covered and to throw it though there were clearly better options during certain plays. I will not state if I agree or not, but I wanted that thought process disseminated for board consumption.
There have been articles popping up during this Pandemic of teams fearing how there is potential to bomb this draft due to the shift in the offseason and usual preparation for both pre-draft and training camp for rookies. I believe that Houston is one of those teams. I actually take solace in knowing that Houston has less chance to blow it in this draft. If there was a draft I wouldn’t mind moving draft capital for known commodities, it would be in this environment. Add in BOb’s apparent self awareness that he doesn’t do well teaching and implementing draft picks in their first season, especially WR, this appears to be a move that was done with input from the numerous moving parts of whatever the organizational structure the Texans have.
I am waiting with intrigue and hope that it works. I have my reservations that it will, but I also know that it HAS.
JWL
Thanks Baller, I'm glad that someone finally addressed our situation nationally .... the local outlets seem to all have their lips tightly secured to O'Brien's anus .... and, not the one on his chin !
Carl Smith is no longer the QB coach. That is now Tim Kelly, the OC handling both rolls, TEs too I think.
Carl Smith is now an unspecified offensive assistant. I hope (because I don't know) that means he'll be more involved with scouting other teams & developing a game plan.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
If Nuk asked for a raise and you didn’t want to give it to him, you say no and do nothing. He’s got 3 years left on the contract. There’s not a damn thing you needed to do. At least not now.
But OK, so you don’t want to pay him and decide to get rid of him, fine. Then why go get a guy with $47M left on his contract, who’s 1 concussion away from retirement? Because he’s zero dead money if you cut him after this season? You gave up a 2nd round pick for him!! You better not be freaking cutting him. And then there’s the ridiculous money you took on with Johnson and 9 more million you’re giving Cobb. For 3 ******* years.
It makes no ******* sense what this guy is doing with these moves.
JWLCASPER
Waterboy
Thank you for that catch. Actually that adds credence to my theory as Carl Smith may have more say in the team building aspect than we actually realize.
So I'm listening to this morning's 610 broadcast & they speculate for a minute... maybe Easterby wanted Cooks from the get go. Which leads me to question if they accepted the deal for Hopkins because it was enough to get Cooks.
So they traded Hopkins for Cooks, David Johnson & 17 spots up in the 2nd round. Basically.
Not nearly as deadly as Hopkins (one of the best receivers on the planet), Fuller, Stills and a second rounder in the top WR draft in history would've been.
Who gives a sh*t what Easterby wants? What exactly is his track record in acquiring personnel and building a championship team?