He didn't want to give Nuk 5 years 100 mil and got a lot faster we corps.
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He didn't want to give Nuk 5 years 100 mil and got a lot faster we corps.
Hopefully this changes with Kelly as OC.
They've got 3 speed guys now and will be able to withstand WFV's injuries.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
As I stated in the other thread, I like the move considering what transpired with Hopkins. If DW4 is going to buy time, having guys who can flat out run is very beneficial. Now the team has 4 #2 type guys who can all beat 1 on 1 coverage. They have up their own #2 not the one they got from Arizona. There are still some 1 yr vet deals out there to make for the defense. Clay Matthews as a 3ed down rusher makes sense. Everson Griffen always made sense. If they can snag 1 or both, they can make some noise in their 3rd down package.
Bill obrien-
”Haha! With all these speedsters, no one would believe that we will run it up the middle on first AND second down! And if we get backed up, its impossible to think that we would try a mere three yard pass! Haha! The other teams will be such suckers due to all my receiving threats!”
”Haha! With all these speedsters, no one would believe that we will run it up the middle on first AND second down! And if we get backed up, its impossible to think that we would try a mere three yard pass! Haha! The other teams will be such suckers due to all my receiving threats!”
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Avgressive moves have always been the name of the game for BoB, and as much as the draft nerds hate it, it has worked out for BoB more often than not.
When fans were whining about us not using the TE’s more back in 2017 with slow ass Fido and Griffin, 2018 saw us bring in Thomas and Akins in the draft, Fells the next offseason and Warring in the 2019 draft.
All the aggressive moves to help the secondary with Conley...then picking up Hargreaves off the waiver wire..
The o-line aggressive move to go get Tunsil...
When fans were whining about us not using the TE’s more back in 2017 with slow ass Fido and Griffin, 2018 saw us bring in Thomas and Akins in the draft, Fells the next offseason and Warring in the 2019 draft.
All the aggressive moves to help the secondary with Conley...then picking up Hargreaves off the waiver wire..
The o-line aggressive move to go get Tunsil...
badboy
Hall of Fame
Rockets play has been so bad I have quit watching them. It's time for results for the Rockets as well as the Texans regardless of who is playing.
Ok... I get it. That play at 1:51 hooked BO'b. I can't wait for the season to start.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Just a reminder to all that at Clemson, Watson spread passes around; not one IIRC had over a 1,000 yards his time there. It's time for Dashaun to get some Tds and over 4,000 yds.
The Texans did it again? Barnwell grades the bizarre Brandin Cooks trade
This deal is an admission of failure from the Rams. It's a flailing response to failure for the Texans.
www.espn.com
Texansballer74
The Marine
Agreed. But man quite of few of my Facebook buddies love this trade. They think we're on our way to the Superbowl. Lol
Texansballer74
The Marine
How so. They're always in the playoffs. I understand they couldn't F with Golden State. But they have always been in the hunt. Ole Harden gets on my nerves in the playoffs. And MDA is madly in love with that small ball crap. But they're there in the mix.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I agree but we did not keep Hopkins. Let's move on.
texanhead08
All Pro
Something to watch Cooks has 5 concussions in the past 6yrs.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Always in the playoffs but never in the final game? Isn't that why we're upset with O'Brien? Hopkins, Clowney, Andre Johnson, whomever would be one week fussing if we were getting to the Super Bowl
badboy
Hall of Fame
2 starters for one on field same time could be better for Watson.The Texans did it again? Barnwell grades the bizarre Brandin Cooks trade
This deal is an admission of failure from the Rams. It's a flailing response to failure for the Texans.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yes and I expect Houston to negotiate buyout if he cannot play. High risk but could be worth it.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Why thank you. You should hear me preach!
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
KC’s trio of Hill, Watkins and Hardman missed a combined 12 games for KC in 2019.
Fuller Cobb and Cooks missed a combined 8 for their respective teams last year. you add in Stills and its still only 11
At this point, People harping on the concern for injuries with all of our guys are just looking for something to ***** about.
Injuries are a fact of playing the most violent sport there is. It’s all about how you well you as a team can hold up once they occur.In recent years we haven’t been able to adjust well when Fuller’s speed left the field. It appears BoB’s leaving nothing to chance for next year. We will have speed all over the field.
Fuller Cobb and Cooks missed a combined 8 for their respective teams last year. you add in Stills and its still only 11
At this point, People harping on the concern for injuries with all of our guys are just looking for something to ***** about.
Injuries are a fact of playing the most violent sport there is. It’s all about how you well you as a team can hold up once they occur.In recent years we haven’t been able to adjust well when Fuller’s speed left the field. It appears BoB’s leaving nothing to chance for next year. We will have speed all over the field.
badboy
Hall of Fame
J/K.. Obrien trades Fuller for JK Dobbins and starts Stills, Cobb and Brand in Cooks at WR! Thanks for the idea Earl !
badboy
Hall of Fame
but it is a known thing that O'Brien have to win it all this year, right?
badboy
Hall of Fame
hey let's leave God out of this as he has enough problems dealing with me. Lol
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
lol in the hunt for what? If we’re holding the Rockets FO to the same standard as the Texans FO (championship or bust) then Morey’s entire tenure has been a failure too. The only reason Fans give them a pass is b/c they make the moves to bring in the players with name recognition ....that they want him to bring in. Howard. Paul. Carmelo. and now Westbrook.
Reality is he’s been at it double the time BoB and the Texans’ current FO has been at it and he’s still yet to break through.
Texansballer74
The Marine
You're crazy as heck if you really believe that. Especially when you're always stroking this crap going on with the Texans.
We want to be critical about the Rockets and there moves. But gives the Texans a pass for these weak ash moves.
We want to be critical about the Rockets and there moves. But gives the Texans a pass for these weak ash moves.
WFV is the last of the Rick role on offense. I doubt he's a Texans when the season starts.
Belay my last. He's got to get rid of Watson first.
Texansballer74
The Marine
At least they made it to the Western conference finals. How far has the Texans made it in the playoffs? When was the last time the Rockets were a lottery team? I do remember the Texans going 4-12 .
I'm upset with Obrien because he's gutting the darn team due to personal reasoning.
Texansballer74
The Marine
WFV is the last of the Rick role on offense. I doubt he's a Texans when the season starts.
Belay my last. He's got to get rid of Watson first.
Shoots Watt might not be here when the season starts. Lol
I know everyone is down on this trade. I am high on DJ and think we will see him more productive, mostly because not Arizona... I mean I can remember being jealous of teams that could force us to put our 4th or 5th corner on the field routinely. I really want to know what a defense does if you have those four plus DJ out there. Or any 3 of them + DJ and DJ in the backfield.
Maybe this doesn't work... but holy crap.
Texansballer74
The Marine
WFV, Cooks, Stills is more potent than Hopkins, WFV, Stills.
This darn dude is still not factoring that trashy ash offensive line. Your quarterback has to have time to get it to these fast receivers who will be going deep on almost every play. And Warring has to beat out Fells and Atkins first before hyping him up. Right now Fells has that position on lock.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Hard to get excited for such a huge dropoff in talent from Nuk to Cooks. I can't believe they took on that contract for a 2nd, it's terrible after this year.
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
Well, when you begin searching ahead to our cap situation, we just made it difficult to make room for Watson and Tunsil, which either means losing on or both, the end of JJ Watt as a Texan, or that you have to analyse the Cooks and Johnson deals as 1 year rentals rather than long term value.
This team is fucked for talent for a very long time.
Some posters struggle with this.
Tell me how much the cap is going up next year and I might agree with you.
WFV is the last of the Rick role on offense. I doubt he's a Texans when the season starts.
Belay my last. He's got to get rid of Watson first.
Cleaning up the mess that was left for him.
This is just another example.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
I am lost, OTC says $8m for Cooks and $6.1m for Cobb next year. Something is not adding upThe Texans did it again? Barnwell grades the bizarre Brandin Cooks trade
This deal is an admission of failure from the Rams. It's a flailing response to failure for the Texans.
austins23
Hall of Fame
With OB's infatuation with the spread formation (even more so now), either Duke or David is going to see decreased field time (@RGV82). I'd love to keep track of how many times the offense trots out 21 personnel. I bet it won't be many.
Man, I hope not. With these four this offense better turn into a bunch of quick hit plays. Let these guys get the ball and run. Let one run to the goal line every play, but I'd like to see Watson collect most of his passing yards from the WR's getting yards after the catch. Keep the QB upright for a change.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
A huge Part of why KC has been so dominant is b/c they can get 3 deep at WR and get a mismatch with the opposing teams’ 3rd dB. The Watkins signing for them was thought to be a nothing trade...they overpaid for a injury riddled WR at 3 years 48 million...30 million guaranteed..a guy who has only had 1 1000 yd season in his career.
Fast forward to this year, they are resigning him to a 1 yr. 9 million dollar deal b/c of his impact.
you got folks around here bitching b/c of the Cobb contract which is about what KC gave Watkins. For what they’re paying Cooks, The Cooks contract isn’t bad at all for us.
Fast forward to this year, they are resigning him to a 1 yr. 9 million dollar deal b/c of his impact.
you got folks around here bitching b/c of the Cobb contract which is about what KC gave Watkins. For what they’re paying Cooks, The Cooks contract isn’t bad at all for us.
Toro Bravo
Rookie
It seems to me that BOB is using the George Allen approach to building a team:
www.profootballhof.com
"Adopting the “Future Is Now” theme, he made numerous trades, sacrificing future draft choices for veterans who could help immediately. In his 12 seasons in the NFL, he made 131 trades, 81 of them coming during his Washington tenure."
It worked for Allen but that was a different time and league structure. Not to mention that Allen was a better coach than O'Brien.
It's very difficult for me to be a Texans fan right now. But I have to think that there is a method to all of this madness.
George Allen | Pro Football Hall of Fame Official Site
www.profootballhof.com
"Adopting the “Future Is Now” theme, he made numerous trades, sacrificing future draft choices for veterans who could help immediately. In his 12 seasons in the NFL, he made 131 trades, 81 of them coming during his Washington tenure."
It worked for Allen but that was a different time and league structure. Not to mention that Allen was a better coach than O'Brien.
It's very difficult for me to be a Texans fan right now. But I have to think that there is a method to all of this madness.
Fair point. But what if you could have Hopkins, Watkins, Fuller and Stills? Is Watkins at 1 year and $9 million dollar enough to hold off Hopkins' contract demands for one season?
DeAndre Hopkins calling for a 'Reunion' with Sammy Watkins on the Texans
Houston Texans wide receiver Deandre Hopkins is working hard to reunite with former Clemson teammate and potential Kansas City Chiefs' cap casualty wide receiver, Sammy Watkins.
www.si.com
When did getting rid of an All Pro WR become cleaning up a mess? Seems like he's creating a mess and then having to clean it up.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Hopkins, Fuller, Stills, Watkins >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cooks, Fuller, Stills, Cobb
austins23
Hall of Fame
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Fair point. But what if you could have Hopkins, Watkins, Fuller and Stills? Is Watkins at 1 year and $9 million dollar enough to hold off Hopkins' contract demands for one season?
DeAndre Hopkins calling for a 'Reunion' with Sammy Watkins on the Texans
Houston Texans wide receiver Deandre Hopkins is working hard to reunite with former Clemson teammate and potential Kansas City Chiefs' cap casualty wide receiver, Sammy Watkins.
Would it have been enough to hold off his contract demands though? The 2nd part to this is why would Watkins leave a great situation in KC? Guys just don't accept 1 year deals unless they have something to prove or they are happy with their situation and know they're close to the end. I think Watkins knows he's probably close to being done. You factor in he's just come off winning a SB and he's playing with the best qb in the game and a HC who is a player's coach. Leaving that to come play under the chronic red ass that is BoB? Yeah, probably not gonna happen.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Its hive mentality with a tinge of fascism! LOL "OBrien is King. You do not question what the King does, you support it wholeheartedly and INVENT reasons why the ousted traitorous player was never good to begin with and easy replaceable!!!"
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I'm concerned about injuries and I'm not looking for something to ***** about. Fact is Fuller has never finished a season since he got here and there is no reason to think 2020 will be his first. Cooks has had 5 concussions in 6 years and maybe that means something and maybe it doesn't, I don't know its why I asked CnD in the injury thread and Cobb is no Hopkins. It very well could work out as you have said and teams blink and all 3 receivers are down field in which case we will see if Watson's combine weakness on the deep ball is accurate or has been improved on. However to say people shouldn't be concerns about injuries is ridiculous given the Texans WR history.