drs23
Veteran
Yeah, that's what I thunk. Seemed to happen several times a game, every game.
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All encompassing Rick Smith thread
- Thread starter djohn2oo8
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Yeah, that's what I thunk. Seemed to happen several times a game, every game.
I'm not the least bit opposed to Matthews being selected. In fact, I like him for the very reasons you mention ...AND the bloodline thing.
But when I brought it up initially (must have been eons ago) I was severely chastised for suggesting we take a RT with the 1-1 pick.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Rick Smith needs an enema.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
lol @ anyone paying attention to the press conference with the GM of a team a week before the draft.
Have you people learned nothing?
Have you people learned nothing?
Well it's good to know that Smith knows what a good football player looks like. After all it is his profession. With all of these good football players Smith knows what they look like when he sees them how in the world did the Texans finish 2-14 with 1-1 AGAIN?
To the tune of consistently fielding a top ten defense.
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That's because they thought we were enamored with an Aggie or that we were too concerned with the name. I'm like you though. I don't care who he is as long as he's the best OT or one of the best OTs in the game.
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Playoffs
Hall of Fame
RAC wants bigger bodies.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
That's a different thing than the 3-4/4-3 thing to me. Granted, the bigger bodies are about a more traditional 3-4 shifting to possibly more traditional 4-3 but it's a different aspect. We already wanted guys who could perform in multiple fronts; we're just changing some of their requirements and their dimensions.
ThaShark316
#28
It's either that or go to an Astros game.
Which would you do?
Baseball > Football, so...
TEXANRED
Texan-American
It's the lack of depth that is killing our team and that falls squarely on the shoulders of Rick Smith. Bad draft after bad draft. Smith may have put us back more than three years.
We drafted an already hurt Clowney who then got hurt in training camp who then got hurt in the first game, a second round pick that can't beat out Ben Jones for playing time, and a 3rd round pick that couldn't beat out Powe, then came down with a mysterious case of IR.
I would trade anyone of those picks for a Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Garoppolo. We could have had any one of those players but Smith got out played and out maneuvered and now we are stuck with Shitzpatrick.
Our last years draft class has all been cut for the exception of DHop, Swag, and Griffin.
2012 draft class - Mercilus was a project and is a backup at best, Posey can't sniff the field, Jones is trash, Martin is below average, Brooks is a solid Guard, Crick is trash, Bullock improved, who is Mondeck?
2011 draft class only Watt, Reed, and Newton are still on the team.
The only player left from the 2010 draft is KJax
And don't get me started on his lack of cap management and bad FA signings.
And Ultimately not signing Manning was a Rick Smith decision. For that alone he should have been fired.
Rick Smith should have been fired with Kubiak.
We drafted an already hurt Clowney who then got hurt in training camp who then got hurt in the first game, a second round pick that can't beat out Ben Jones for playing time, and a 3rd round pick that couldn't beat out Powe, then came down with a mysterious case of IR.
I would trade anyone of those picks for a Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, Garoppolo. We could have had any one of those players but Smith got out played and out maneuvered and now we are stuck with Shitzpatrick.
Our last years draft class has all been cut for the exception of DHop, Swag, and Griffin.
2012 draft class - Mercilus was a project and is a backup at best, Posey can't sniff the field, Jones is trash, Martin is below average, Brooks is a solid Guard, Crick is trash, Bullock improved, who is Mondeck?
2011 draft class only Watt, Reed, and Newton are still on the team.
The only player left from the 2010 draft is KJax
And don't get me started on his lack of cap management and bad FA signings.
And Ultimately not signing Manning was a Rick Smith decision. For that alone he should have been fired.
Rick Smith should have been fired with Kubiak.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Is this a new post? I feel like I have read this before like a few years ago...
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infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Really, no really? Lack of depth was what killed us today?
Last I checked Fitz was a starter.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Yeah but if the depth behind him were better then he wouldn't be starting so......yeah.
The depth on this team does suck at many positions. But it's pretty damn obvious that we are hurting the most at the starting QB position.
technically its a new post
it's just the same song the anti-Smithiak crowd has been singing for years
they're still angry we didn't boot out the matched set
we keep telling them that Smith is a deal broker; it's the coaches that actually do the personnel selecting on draft day
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Fitz is enemy number 1 and you will get no arguments from me. But look at our team, once you get past our stars there is nobody. We have no TE's, no slot receiver, no pass rush outside JJ Watt, no ILB's, no OLB's, and we are one injury away in the secondary from pulling a fan from the stands and suiting them up for the game.
corytx8
Rookie
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Or OB is simply screwing up on QB.
We have TEs who either aren't released or aren't seen. We have a QB who only sees AJ, Hopkins and Foster. Clowney is out. Cushing is getting better each game. We're 4 injuries into the secondary depth and holding up decently. JJo had basically perfect play on the long Dez reception except for the result and he's a starter so again not depth. We were once again playing 12 yards off the line when it was 3rd and 8. This loss was on starters at coach and QB far more than depth.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/tag/_/name/bob-mcnair
This is all Rick Smith. O'Brien is not Mr. Awshucks and throws himself under the bus like Kubiak would. You are witnessing O'Brien not playing the players he didn't want. He practically cut the entire 2013 class when he got here and has pretty much refused to play the 2014 class.
Smith is an awful talent evaluator and has no clue on how to put a roster together. Hopefully McNair will finally see that and get rid of him before he continues to destroy this team.
did you not absorb the part where McNair said if Smith doesn't draft who the coaches want, they won't play those guys???
No one is on that roster that O'Brien and/or Crennel didn't agree to.
That post proves it to me.
Thank you for proving my point.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Did you not absorb the part where Smith has the final say? Did you not absorb the part where McNair said if Smith did not draft the guys the coach wants the coach won't play them?
Where is Su?
Where is Nix?
Where is Savage?
Where is CJ?
Where is Pagan?
Where is the 2013 draft class under Kubiak or O'Brien?
Smith=Casserly without the charisma.
corytx8
Rookie
Damn man, I feel you about the 2013 class being a bust. But you have to let a rookie class get their feet wet man. If you had hope for everyone of these rookies to be pro bowlers, you are setting yourself up for failure. If you are expecting a GM to hit on every single draft pick, you are setting yourself up for failure. Every single GM has missed on draft picks. The fact is, I bet you have been rooting for the Texans to lose probably so that it will give you a reason to go on this rant. GET OVER IT MAN! Draft has came and went, its done!
TEXANRED
Texan-American
If you think I am rooting for the Texans to lose you don't know jack about me. I take every win and loss personally. But.....go look up Smith's draft history from 2007-current. It's not good. Especially when you sell the public you build your team through the draft.
corytx8
Rookie
You can say the same for a lot of GM's out there and it's a tired argument. There are multiple reasons reasons why the Texans haven't seen a lot of success. Missing on draft picks isn't one of them. Every GM in the league misses on draft picks.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
To say that every GM misses on draft picks is like saying water is wet. Rick Smith not only misses on draft picks, on FA signings, and managing the cap, he also Shits the bed every year like clock work.
speedfreek
All Pro
The Rick Smith issue falls on McNair's head. He let Gary dictate who
the GM was. That's a no-no.
In my opinion, the owner (who is better at the management side than
the talent side) should focus on making the best GM hire possible.
Then, after he's made the pick, let THAT guy hire a coach.
It's a recipe that has worked well in the past, so it will probably do so
again.
At this point I would say I feel much more comfortable letting McNair
pick a GM then I would picking another coach.
Let's just join hands and hope that BoB "blossoms" into the next
Payton, Harbaugh, or _fill in the blank_ X's & O's guru.
the GM was. That's a no-no.
In my opinion, the owner (who is better at the management side than
the talent side) should focus on making the best GM hire possible.
Then, after he's made the pick, let THAT guy hire a coach.
It's a recipe that has worked well in the past, so it will probably do so
again.
At this point I would say I feel much more comfortable letting McNair
pick a GM then I would picking another coach.
Let's just join hands and hope that BoB "blossoms" into the next
Payton, Harbaugh, or _fill in the blank_ X's & O's guru.
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dream_team
Hall of Fame
This thread always gets bumped after a loss.
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corytx8
Rookie
It's the truth and I know it hurts. Hindsight is 20/20 though. We had a lot of good players to retain and we had a shot and went for it and missed. It seems like we have a lot of bad signings due to those key players getting hurt.
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Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Funny, I feel like I've read this a dozen times a day, every day.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
That's quite a bit of hubris you have going there to take every game personally...
Amobi, Brown, Cushing, Jackson, Watt, Mercilus, Hopkins, Clowney
first round draft choices for last 8 years.
Other than Watt and maybe Brown I see nothing outstanding.
Texans are spinning wheels until a change is made.
I still say some of you Rick Smith bashers don't have a clue what you're talking about when it cones to being a GM. Firing a GM just for the sake of firing him for the purpose of letting a fan get their little mental reset, is beyond stupidity.
Norg
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this is being fired for the 10+ years of errors hes made he will always be apart of the Kubes regimne... and thus needs to get canned
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Because we really didn't NEED a qb until last season.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Agreed!!!
Please don't say we need to fire a guy until you know of someone you'd prefer to have to replace him.
IMO, Smith is a mediocre GM. That means 50/50 chance we'll get someone better, but also 50/50 chance we'll get someone worse and end up like the Jags, Raiders, Bills, Browns, Rams, etc of the league.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
Cushing was a good pick. Are you saying Rick should have been able to read the future in regards to guys tackling his knees?
Jackson was a good pick. We needed a corner desperately, and he was the best at that spot. While all the 'experts' thought we should have gotten Kyle Wilson, Rick ignored the hype and made the right pick.
Hopkins was a good pick.
Clowney was the right pick.
So what you are saying is the Texans organization does not have the combination of resources, intelligence, football acumen, etc. to do more than randomly pick a GM? They will be just as well served by throwing names in a hat and pulling one out?
Does the same go for players and coaches?
If so, I can see why some would think year after year of mediocrity is OK. The franchise is not capable of anything better.
And people think I'm the pessimist.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
TEXANRED
Texan-American
So how often are you allowed to fail at your job and not get fired? This man gets paid millions of dollars a year and all he has done is fail at his job. How much do you get paid and how much leash would you say you have?
beerlover
Hall of Fame
misery loves company, lol.
bottom line one thinks he is in control while other feels same neither willing to relinquish stranglehold. whats sad is fans are caught in the middle footing the bill, getting high hopes now for the third time in just a little over decade with the NFL's #1 overall pick expecting to resurrect franchise into respectability. I'm just done drinking his or their
bottom line one thinks he is in control while other feels same neither willing to relinquish stranglehold. whats sad is fans are caught in the middle footing the bill, getting high hopes now for the third time in just a little over decade with the NFL's #1 overall pick expecting to resurrect franchise into respectability. I'm just done drinking his or their
And the man who is paying him those millions is happy with his work. So evidently Smith is doing what McNair expects him to do and is doing it to McNair's satisfaction.
Now if you have issues with McNair evaluation processes you need to call him up and tell him.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Well, I still consider the Texans more of an NFL franchise than a game of bingo. I wouldn't spend my Sundays watching other people play bingo to see how the ping pong balls happen to fall.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
You got his number?
amazing80
Hall of Fame
My biggest gripe with Smith is the failed middle round picks and the fact he seems to love back loading contracts and they are all about to explode in value. I do not know if he anticipated the cap to go up significantly and this wouldn't be an issue, but either way we are going to be nailed to the cap for some time unless we can trade some expensive players this off-season. (something he has never done before)