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All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread
- Thread starter mussop
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That's not the only ones he lost. I think he lost the team and probably the coaches today too! Did you see him sitting on the bench all by himself in the last few minutes of the game? It was like he had the plague or something. This should be the "last nail in the coffin" for Schaub!
SAMURAITEXAN
All Pro
I am a slow 50 yr old white dude, and I could outrun MS while wearing a suit of armor.
I've got some feathers. Who has a bucket of hot tar?
Yeah that too but what concerns me most is his decision making when pressure. Enough is enough and time for us to move on with our one of back ups as our starting QB.
At least Flacco has a superbowl.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Keenum has that thing about him, the will to want to win, that is contagious, like with P. Manning. Make a change to an emotional QB who has a desire to win and see this team come together.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I hope you're wrong. But history doesn't lend that much hope. The only glimmer I can conger up is that Bob McNair becomes antsy with the possibility of losing the fan base, and intervenes.
Nawzer
Alienz
Nothing is going to change next week or the week after that. Kubiak will be here and he'll roll out with Schaub. Kubiak and Schaub are going to go down together. I'm not overly disappointed by today's game actually because I was expecting a loss. We all knew that this was going to be a rough patch. We'll see how well the team is playing in December. But it's clear that at this moment Texans are not a serious playoff team. They can turn it around but it's going to take a massive change in attitude an that's something I don't see Kubiak being able to mastermind. He's way too conservative and he's going to stick with this system and Schaub till the day he gets fired.
Jen I love how you word things. LMAO.
SAMURAITEXAN
All Pro
Not sure but if we keep Schaub as our starting QB, he will make a record on that stat. At least he can put his name down on record book before he retires.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Premiere 19 pointed out "10 interceptions in his last 7 games.. this is what matt has done.."
Pantherstang84
@rolisrgti06
Well. At least basketball season just around the corner.
Make him inactive. Or say he has a concussion. Go in with TJ and Keenum.
If we lose we lose but at least we learn something and make some progress.
Right now nothing is learned and we still lose.
MS WILL NOT GET US DEEP IN PLAYOFFS
The Colts are smart and lucky. They got rid of Peyton and then tanked and got Luck. We will eat the Colts dust until a change is made.
If we lose we lose but at least we learn something and make some progress.
Right now nothing is learned and we still lose.
MS WILL NOT GET US DEEP IN PLAYOFFS
The Colts are smart and lucky. They got rid of Peyton and then tanked and got Luck. We will eat the Colts dust until a change is made.
Nawzer
Alienz
Amen to that!
cdollaz
Rookie
As bad as the pick-6 was, QBs are going to make mistakes and I could overlook them if I thought the QB had it within him to recover, put it behind them and still make winning plays. In this case, once that happened, I knew Schaub was DONE and did not have what it takes to shake it off and lead the team to victory.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Hate admit it, but I've had those same feelings ever since his deterioration in the last 3rd of 2012.
oooh i don't want that, there is nothing I want LESS than an owner interfering in decisions about who plays, even if those decisions are wrong.
Yep. It's worked so well for Jerry Jones...
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
It had to be very unpalatable for me to even suggest this........but this is as unpalatable as it gets.
robroy72
Rookie
What could possibly go wrong? #JustWinBaby
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Do you really believe that in the background, owners do not commonly have "discussions" with their head coaches that "help" lead to various coach decisions? I believe that would be naive.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
This guy almost threw 4 ints today. Unfortunately I doubt Yates and keenum are better. But the oline pass protection is bad and couple pressure with a QB that crumbles under it and this is what we're stuck with. I've never seen a QB that retreats so much and goes down with any physical contact. Schaub is weak in every sense of the word. He is physically weak in the legs and arm and he lacks fortitude. I don't know if the pass protection or QB should be the highest priority. Both are holding this team back.
EVOLVIST
Kid A
Guys, none of us know what the hell we're talking about (But I'm going to pretend like I do, anyway).
You don't bench your starting QB when you're 2-2. You give him the chance to right the ship. If you dip below .500, then you pull the trigger.
BUT...that doesn't happen this year, regardless. We're talking about Kubes here. The only way Schaub rides the pine is if Bob makes the call.
The good news is that Rick Smith has set this team up with tons of talent. Any coach would salivate over having a roster like ours (as long as it's not Wade Philips). You might draft a QB high in next year's draft; you might not - you might have a QB on roster; you might go out and trade for Nick Foles or Kirk Cousins.
There's no way I'm giving up on this team at 2-2, though. Hell, remember in 1993 when after the bye the Oilers were 1-4, then they ran off a string of 11 wins?
In short, I don't believe in Matt Schaub, but I think our future still looks damn bright.
You don't bench your starting QB when you're 2-2. You give him the chance to right the ship. If you dip below .500, then you pull the trigger.
BUT...that doesn't happen this year, regardless. We're talking about Kubes here. The only way Schaub rides the pine is if Bob makes the call.
The good news is that Rick Smith has set this team up with tons of talent. Any coach would salivate over having a roster like ours (as long as it's not Wade Philips). You might draft a QB high in next year's draft; you might not - you might have a QB on roster; you might go out and trade for Nick Foles or Kirk Cousins.
There's no way I'm giving up on this team at 2-2, though. Hell, remember in 1993 when after the bye the Oilers were 1-4, then they ran off a string of 11 wins?
In short, I don't believe in Matt Schaub, but I think our future still looks damn bright.
SchaubApologist
Waterboy
Still insane after all these years.
eriadoc
Texan-American
You don't bench him for good. But you sure as hell put his ass on the bench for a series or two and make him sit over on the sidelines studying pictures of the defensive coverage he threw into. A message that his play is unacceptable needs to be sent. When a RB fumbles, he sits his ass for a while. When a WR fumbles, same thing. When a kick returner muffs one, off to the bench. When the QB turns the ball over at the worst time possible, and a pick six at that. you sit his ass for a spell.
I have no doubt at all that either Yates or Keenum would do better. They are both accurate, mobile and know the offense very well. Kubiak won't make a change because Kubiak seems to hate change. I'll take a QB controversy over losses like the last 2 weeks at this point.
I wouldn't mind at all seeing the Yates Era begin next week in SF. He's got a much better chance of making plays against that D than Schaub and will be more likely to target a WR not named Andre Johnson for 3 quarters of the game.
Even still, juke the 340lb lineman in the backfield, buy some time for Andre, DeAndre, Foster, Owen, or Graham to get open & make a play.
At the very least, run the ball past the LoS, shorten the down & distance for the next play. Every QB in the league has been able to at least turn 2nd & 16 into 2nd & 12 but Matt Schaub. Unmobile Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford, Joe Flacco, Tom Brady..... I've seen linemen with knee braces run better than Matt Schaub. That's ridiculous.
He's scoring points for the other team.
You honestly expect us to believe there isn't a QB on our bench that can average less than 6 ppg for the other team?
If that's the case, we need to replace everyone. From the GM to the towel boy.
TK,
You know I don't think much of GK and Rick Smith.
Rick Smith has done some good things but missed on the big ones.
Getting something for Mario, resigning Schaub and keeping GK as head coach.
I think in the long run cleaning house will be done before we get any deeper in playoffs only I think we are a few years from this happening unfortunately.
RTP2110
All Pro
And didn't both McNair and Smith call out Schaub this past offseason? I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those "discussions" this week.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
I concur
The following is not aimed at anyone here on TT at the moment. I just created these for a war within the Austin Texans fan group FB page and I think they're funny so just posting here too for amusement.....
6 INTs in 4 games..... That's insane that the guy finished the game as the starter. There wouldn't have been a better time to bench him.
Talking to Matt, stroking him, whatever, is not working.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
We didn't expect to see him back after the fumble, but I thought Wood might share carries with Foster.
Heath Shuler
SPEED KILLS
Kubiak appears intent on running Foster into the ground just like he did with Terrell Davis. It's no coincidence that Foster's performances have been falling off every year. Wood should've gotten some carries.
If Tate gets benched for a fluke fumble (he had the ball secured properly from the guys he could see to his left) and Schaub doesn't when he's flailing the ball around like a wounded duck, that just doesn't seem right.
SchaubApologist
Waterboy
in all fairness, he gift wrapped a pick-6 for SD, but they did not make the play.
the wonger need food
All Pro
Kubiak will never publicly ostracize Schaub no matter how bad he is. He is an ultra-conservative coach that is set in ways and will not change with the times even if it costs his job. Unfortunately, we are stuck with incompetence until the guy is cut or we get a new coach.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
As upset as everyone is, keep in mind that these ugly losses need to happen in order to justify a change at QB. The worst thing for a team is to win just enough games that no changes occur, yet they never break their ceiling. That's where the Texans have been for three years. And this particular change requires definitive justification, because Kubiak won't do it otherwise.