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All Encompassing Case Keenum Thread

steelbtexan

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I'm sure oakland thought the same when they passed big ben and rivers for robert gallery.
Bridgewater = Roethlisberger talentwise=LOL

You want Keenum to fail because you want Bridgewater. I get that, I dont want Bridgewater, or really Keenum either. But I do want Keenum to succeed because I hate watching the Texans lose every weekend.

I think Bridgewater would rank about 5th on the 2015 QB draft list. Winston/Petty/Hogan/Hundley/Mariotta. Not 1-1 that you currently want.
 

thunderkyss

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Speaking of the QB guru.... has he ever took a brand new QB & modled him into an All-pro player, or has it always been seasoned vets? When he got to Montana, was he already Montana?

& what the heck is Shanahan doing in D.C? Looks oddly similar (if you really want it to) benching Keenum for Schaub.... sort of. I mean every body is asking "What tha?"
 

2012Champs

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Speaking of the QB guru.... has he ever took a brand new QB & modled him into an All-pro player, or has it always been seasoned vets? When he got to Montana, was he already Montana?

& what the heck is Shanahan doing in D.C? Looks oddly similar (if you really want it to) benching Keenum for Schaub.... sort of. I mean every body is asking "What tha?"


Benching case for Schaub is nothing like benching rgiii for cousins
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Wade:

(on if QB Case Keenum has improved in the hurry-up and two-minute offense)
“Yeah. We actually repeated again today. We had to do it again twice because we needed, it wasn’t part of the schedule, but we wanted to do it again so he would get more comfortable with it. It’s something that he really did well in college. We’ve got get him on that page as far as we’re concerned.”

It takes more than a QB to succeed in a hurry up O. Hope we see it happen.
 

2012Champs

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Wade:

(on if QB Case Keenum has improved in the hurry-up and two-minute offense)
“Yeah. We actually repeated again today. We had to do it again twice because we needed, it wasn’t part of the schedule, but we wanted to do it again so he would get more comfortable with it. It’s something that he really did well in college. We’ve got get him on that page as far as we’re concerned.”

It takes more than a QB to succeed in a hurry up O. Hope we see it happen.
A Qb is a hell of a start to a hurry up O
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
I wonder if they practiced picking up 0 gap blitzes, give Keenum the abilty use blitz buster audibles.

Practice going through progressions and improve intermediate passes and delivering them with zip and less lob.

Can you practice pocket awareness?

No more Kubiak. No more excuses.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I wonder if they practiced picking up 0 gap blitzes, give Keenum the abilty use blitz buster audibles.

Practice going through progressions and improve intermediate passes and delivering them with zip and less lob.

Can you practice pocket awareness?

No more Kubiak. No more excuses.
Unless Dennison has forgotten any way other than the Kubiak way.:kitten:

And as far as pocket awareness, it can be practiced/learned. Flacco, just one example, had no pocket awareness.........he developed it with the needed playing time and experience.
 

The Pencil Neck

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Speaking of the QB guru.... has he ever took a brand new QB & modled him into an All-pro player, or has it always been seasoned vets? When he got to Montana, was he already Montana?

& what the heck is Shanahan doing in D.C? Looks oddly similar (if you really want it to) benching Keenum for Schaub.... sort of. I mean every body is asking "What tha?"
Kubiak?

Technically, yes. Or at least, almost.

Although he's had his best offenses with veteran QBs he's inherited (Steve Young and John Elway), both of those guys gave him a lot of credit.

However, the Broncos drafted Brian Griese in the 3rd round and Kubiak took him to a Pro-Bowl (not quite All-pro.) Griese had a 102 QB rating that year but only played in 10 games. The team as a whole went 13-3.

He also took Jake Plummer and turned him into a winner and gave him his best years and again, 1 pro bowl.

But as a "QB Guru", he's not a guy who's taken a lot of young QBs and turned them into great players.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
Has he worked with a lot of "young" qb's?
How many guys have we seen since he's been here? Alex Brink, TJ Yates, Case Keenum have been guys we've actually drafted or picked up as UDFAs recently that I recall.

For guys with more experience, Matt Leinart, Dan Orlovsky, John David Booty, Kellen Clemens, Sage Rosenfels, Gus Frerotte (sp), David Carr, Jake Plummer. And of course, Schaub.

I probably shouldn't be doing this from memory but whatevs.

He's been able to do pretty good things with some of these guys. But I wonder if his style of drumming it into you not to make mistakes made some of them freeze up. I mean, that might have been some of Carr's problem by the end of that first season. I mean, it almost looked like Carr wasn't willing to throw the ball to someone unless there wasn't anyone within a 20 yard radius. He hurt Sage's feewings. And it's been looking like Case has been less willing to pull the trigger the more time he's spent as the starter.

So I don't know.
 

JB

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I agree that as a HC Kubiak seemed to teach how it not fk up more than he taught to win. I think before that he may have been one of the best teachers
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
Bridgewater = Roethlisberger talentwise=LOL

You want Keenum to fail because you want Bridgewater. I get that, I dont want Bridgewater, or really Keenum either. But I do want Keenum to succeed because I hate watching the Texans lose every weekend.

I think Bridgewater would rank about 5th on the 2015 QB draft list. Winston/Petty/Hogan/Hundley/Mariotta. Not 1-1 that you currently want.
In your mind,yes. I'm willing to bet if I were to pull up the posts about bridgater last year,he was someone everyone on this board wanted. Now,with the chance to get him,people want to tell me and others what he's not. I strongly disagree that if he came cack,he would be no latter than 2 probably. There are a lot of people right now and even next yr who like him over winston. There is a reason why hundley and mariotta are going bback despite being draft elgible right now and pretty much being the sae age as brisgewater. His fbi is light year ahead of those guys. He's not running a gimmicky spread and he doesn't need wide open windows tmake passes either.

In terms of rivers and ben, it's a equal to me. Go read the predraft on rivers and big ben. People questioned ben level of competition,people questioned rivers throwing motion. Truth be told,acorsi has said many times that if they didn't make the trade with sd,they would've taken ben,not rivers at 4. No one compared eli to palmer in terms of talent either. All they said is that,eli,rivers,big ben were franchise caliber signal callers. Have you read anywhere or heard anywhere that said bridgewater wasn't a franchise caliber signal caller? If so,enlighten us.

I don't want keenum to fail,I think he's a limited backup type talent. Not that my opinion counts a lot in terms of the texans. In the nfl,udfa get a shot and fair or unfair ,they may only get 1 shot. Pryor,who was drafted was looking like an nfl starter for the 1st 4 games or so. After a couple more games,he started looking like the raw,undiscipline player many thought he was. Case has an opportunity to take the job and give the staff hope,but he hasn't. He isn't progressing and it started early to the point his 2nd half play has been terrible the same way. I still think he can be a good backup in the nfl.
 

JB

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In your mind,yes. I'm willing to bet if I were to pull up the posts about bridgater last year,he was someone everyone on this board wanted. Now,with the chance to get him,people want to tell me and others what he's not. I strongly disagree that if he came cack,he would be no latter than 2 probably. There are a lot of people right now and even next yr who like him over winston. There is a reason why hundley and mariotta are going bback despite being draft elgible right now and pretty much being the sae age as brisgewater. His fbi is light year ahead of those guys. He's not running a gimmicky spread and he doesn't need wide open windows tmake passes either.

In terms of rivers and ben, it's a equal to me. Go read the predraft on rivers and big ben. People questioned ben level of competition,people questioned rivers throwing motion. Truth be told,acorsi has said many times that if they didn't make the trade with sd,they would've taken ben,not rivers at 4. No one compared eli to palmer in terms of talent either. All they said is that,eli,rivers,big ben were franchise caliber signal callers. Have you read anywhere or heard anywhere that said bridgewater wasn't a franchise caliber signal caller? If so,enlighten us.

I don't want keenum to fail,I think he's a limited backup type talent. Not that my opinion counts a lot in terms of the texans. In the nfl,udfa get a shot and fair or unfair ,they may only get 1 shot. Pryor,who was drafted was looking like an nfl starter for the 1st 4 games or so. After a couple more games,he started looking like the raw,undiscipline player many thought he was. Case has an opportunity to take the job and give the staff hope,but he hasn't. He isn't progressing and it started early to the point his 2nd half play has been terrible the same way. I still think he can be a good backup in the nfl.
Norg, is that you?






J/k with ya man
 
I wonder if they practiced picking up 0 gap blitzes, give Keenum the abilty use blitz buster audibles.
I think you're right about the audibles, but I am still convinced the blitz has a lot to do with the 5 and 7 step drops and the hot routes seemingly non-existent, medium routes or fades. Until those turn into slants, hitches and more dangerously, short outs, the zero-man blitz is going to beat up whoever is behind center.

It's a shame, too, because I would think AJ and Hopkins would excel, especially if forcing single tacklers to take them down.
 

texanhead08

All Pro
I still don't think Case is the long term answer as a starting QB , but I find it almost impossible to believe that a guy who ran a no huddle offense his entire college career isn't capable of running one now. I think its Kubes flawed system, and hopefully with him gone we will actually see better clock management and some no huddle going forward.
 

Scooter

Funky
for all the things i like about kubiak, his no huddle and spread offenses arent on the list. kubiak's offense gets worse with each receiver in the huddle, great with 1 or 2 to horrible with 4 or 5, so i wouldnt hold that too much against case. i dont know that anyone else on the current staff is much better though so i'm betting we see more of the same.
 

Nitrofish

Let The Big Fish Eat!
I still don't think Case is the long term answer as a starting QB , but I find it almost impossible to believe that a guy who ran a no huddle offense his entire college career isn't capable of running one now. I think its Kubes flawed system, and hopefully with him gone we will actually see better clock management and some no huddle going forward.
That's a spread offense no huddle. Keep that in mind. Totally different than a pro style offense.

I think it all boils down to this. All of you Keenum fans said Schaub was the problem, and that if we just had a mobile QB back there everything would change regardless of the problems with the right side of the line. Now that Keenum is back there it suddenly is a line issue, or Keenum's inability to deal with the blitz is Kubiak's fault, etc, etc. What will it take before you realize as you did with Schaub that Keenum is not the answer. How long will you hold on to your hope of the hometown hero story?

IMHO, if Keenum and Wade Phillips can somehow pull off a win in Indy, I think they will both remain in their respective starting positions so to speak, regardless of what happens the two final games. It would be an amazing accomplishment for them both, and one that fans, and uncle bob especially would be impressed by.
 

disaacks3

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I wonder if they practiced picking up 0 gap blitzes, give Keenum the abilty use blitz buster audibles.

Practice going through progressions and improve intermediate passes and delivering them with zip and less lob.

Can you practice pocket awareness?

No more Kubiak. No more excuses.
I kept wanting the Texans to practice with either a wall of players, or a real physical wall 10 yds behind the line of scrimmage. Let's get Case used to escaping laterally, not running backwards. The speed of defenders in the NFL makes it too difficult to have retreat as a first option. (Same issue I expect to see Manziel have in the NFL)
 
What will it take before you realize as you did with Schaub that Keenum is not the answer. How long will you hold on to your hope of the hometown hero story?
We watched Schaub for 6 years. We've watched Keenum for 7 games. Not sure that's a great comparison.

If we draft a QB #1 this draft, and he went 0-7 with the exact same stats as Keenum, we would not be demanding to draft another QB the following year. We wouldn't. You know it, and I know it.

This is about three things:

1) We did not invest anything in Keenum.

2) We have a VERY high draft pick in the draft, possibly #1.

3) Case has a lot of local fans. This means people like him and others like to position themselves NOT to like him because it makes them feel a certain way in comparison to those that do.

As far as I can see, it's pretty clear that Keenum is being judged very differently than most QBs who just played their first seven games. I think he is playing well all things considered and I'd like to see how he does with a camp as a starter or competing to be one. I don't think this is nearly the radical position some are claiming it to be.
 

JB

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We watched Schaub for 6 years. We've watched Keenum for 7 games. Not sure that's a great comparison.

If we draft a QB #1 this draft, and he went 0-7 with the exact same stats as Keenum, we would not be demanding to draft another QB the following year. We wouldn't. You know it, and I know it.

This is about three things:

1) We did not invest anything in Keenum.

2) We have a VERY high draft pick in the draft, possibly #1.

3) Case has a lot of local fans. This means people like him and others like to position themselves NOT to like him because it makes them feel a certain way in comparison to those that do.

As far as I can see, it's pretty clear that Keenum is being judged very differently than most QBs who just played their first seven games. I think he is playing well all things considered and I'd like to see how he does with a camp as a starter or competing to be one. I don't think this is nearly the radical position some are claiming it to be.
It's not always about the stats, or even the w/l. If any qb came in and performed as Case has, and clearly has regressed over the past few games as he has, they would be questioned just as much.

I happen to think most of it was Kubiak and his desire not to lose more than anything. Maybe now Case can go out and play his game without thinking so much of what not to do. Time will tell
 
It's not always about the stats, or even the w/l. If any qb came in and performed as Case has, and clearly has regressed over the past few games as he has, they would be questioned just as much.
I think you're looking for something to disagree with. Let me rephrase it:

If Case was drafted in the first round this year, and everything else was the same, we would not be talking about drafting a new QB in the following draft. He would not be considered a bust at this point in time.

And I am not saying "questioning" is rare or even undeserved. We ALL have questions about whether Case is the guy. I am talking about the ABSENCE of questions. As in, "he's not a starter in this league", "time to give up on him", we absolutely "must" draft a QB with the #1 pick, or other variations of "he sucks."
 

JB

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I think you're looking for something to disagree with. Let me rephrase it:

If Case was drafted in the first round this year, and everything else was the same, we would not be talking about drafting a new QB in the following draft. He would not be considered a bust at this point in time.

And I am not saying "questioning" is rare or even undeserved. We ALL have questions about whether Case is the guy. I am talking about the ABSENCE of questions. As in, "he's not a starter in this league", "time to give up on him", we absolutely "must" draft a QB with the #1 pick, or other variations of "he sucks."
I'm not looking to disagree. I'm saying that much of Keenum's poor performance is a direct result of the coaching he's received. We don't know yet what he is or can be.
Edit: But if your supposition is that he is given harsher treatment because he is an UDFA, that is just silly. If he was a first round pick coming in and performed like he has over the past 3.5 games, he would be vilified. Called a bust. A waste of a pick. This board and the entire city would be screaming about the curse of Houston personified in Keenum
 
I'm not looking to disagree. I'm saying that much of Keenum's poor performance is a direct result of the coaching he's received. We don't know yet what he is or can be.
Edit: But if your supposition is that he is given harsher treatment because he is an UDFA, that is just silly. If he was a first round pick coming in and performed like he has over the past 3.5 games, he would be vilified. Called a bust. A waste of a pick. This board and the entire city would be screaming about the curse of Houston personified in Keenum
Okay, we're in different worlds.
 

2012Champs

Hall of Fame
I think you're looking for something to disagree with. Let me rephrase it:

If Case was drafted in the first round this year, and everything else was the same, we would not be talking about drafting a new QB in the following draft. He would not be considered a bust at this point in time.

And I am not saying "questioning" is rare or even undeserved. We ALL have questions about whether Case is the guy. I am talking about the ABSENCE of questions. As in, "he's not a starter in this league", "time to give up on him", we absolutely "must" draft a QB with the #1 pick, or other variations of "he sucks."


You feel Case is catching more heat than a first round pick? Not that shocking really


You don't think he is getting more support than would be normal for being an 0-7 udfa because he played at UofH?
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Teddy B will change many minds at he combine since all people want to see are black and white stats.

Forget what the majority of professional scouts and analysts say. Lateral thinking is nonexistent when discussing a polarizing topic.

Most people here writing off Bridgewater haven't seen him play or don't understand the intricacies of the position. They spew bad conference rhetoric as if that defines good QB play. He is not a franchise QB yet people expect to find that player in a later round? Crazy.
Have you even read the thread? Several people who don't see TB as #1 pick have said they have watched him and disagree with you & that includes me. I don't think anyone believes in stats only as you say but have identified viable concerns. You just don't agree.The professionals often change their minds as year progresses. If I do not agree with you it is because I don't understand the intricacies of the position? Could it be I do and just do not agree with you?

Concerns that "professionals" have voiced:

1. Lower than ideal release point.
2. Durability concerns after all the hits he has taken over his career, specifically to his wrist and ankle.
3. Needs to improve touch and ball placement down field
4. Mediocre opposition.
5. Sometimes doesn't recognize blitz & adjust.
6. Back shoulder drops when going deep.
7. Hand size
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
That's a spread offense no huddle. Keep that in mind. Totally different than a pro style offense.

I think it all boils down to this. All of you Keenum fans said Schaub was the problem, and that if we just had a mobile QB back there everything would change regardless of the problems with the right side of the line. Now that Keenum is back there it suddenly is a line issue, or Keenum's inability to deal with the blitz is Kubiak's fault, etc, etc. What will it take before you realize as you did with Schaub that Keenum is not the answer. How long will you hold on to your hope of the hometown hero story?

IMHO, if Keenum and Wade Phillips can somehow pull off a win in Indy, I think they will both remain in their respective starting positions so to speak, regardless of what happens the two final games. It would be an amazing accomplishment for them both, and one that fans, and uncle bob especially would be impressed by.
The oline did not suddenly become a problem. Injury impacted it from beginning. Smith and Newton went out for parts of games and DB was also playing hurt. I am not saying Keenum does not need to get better but what QB will play to their potential behind what Schaub and Keenum had to play behind. Oh and Foster had hamstring and back injuries almost from beginning.
 

Dishman

Miss Ya Blue
In Matt Schaub's 2004 rookie season with the Falcons he played in 6 games and went 33 of 70 for a completion percentage of 47.1%, 1TD:4INT, 330 yards passing and a QBR of 42.
 

Nitrofish

Let The Big Fish Eat!
We watched Schaub for 6 years. We've watched Keenum for 7 games. Not sure that's a great comparison.
I'm not going to address other parts of your post because I think others have already commented and I agree with what they said, but the statement above is what I have a problem with. You act as if in those 6 years of watching Schaub were like watching some inept bumbling idiot and ignore the fact that Schaub not only lead the league in passing one of those seasons, he also lead the Texans to their first winning seasons, as well as 2 Division Championships.

Keenum does not hold a candle to Schaub no matter how much you or other Keenum fans would like to say he does. Schaub had a bad year and people like you lynched him and are in the process of running him out of town for what? One bad year, and Case Keenum?

Reminds me so much of this. However, if Carr(I am not his fan but) had better OL back then, he might played a little better than what he did with the Texans I think.
Yes as would any QB, which was my point. Schaub would have been better too with an actual OL who blocked for him. Instead of changing QB's we should have done everything we could to make sure we had a solid OL and depth so Schaub had the time to do what he did to Seattle, and SD just to name a few.

The oline did not suddenly become a problem. Injury impacted it from beginning. Smith and Newton went out for parts of games and DB was also playing hurt. I am not saying Keenum does not need to get better but what QB will play to their potential behind what Schaub and Keenum had to play behind. Oh and Foster had hamstring and back injuries almost from beginning.
Not just injury, the fact is since we let Brisiel and Winston go, the Texans pass protecting has been a shell of itself, and instead of addressing the issue, people started ragging on Schaub saying it was all his fault, and that if we had a more fleet footed QB back there, the OL problems would not be as much of a problem. Clearly that is NOT true, and the OL is even worse because of injury.

Wars are won in the trenches, and having a great OL covers up short comings in your QB play. If fans do not blame many of those pick 6's Schaub threw on horrible line play, then they are not being honest with themselves, and are looking for a scapegoat rather than addressing the problem.

Any team that fails to shore up it's first and most important line of defense (the OL) deserves to fail miserably (see 2013 Texans) and will continue to do so until they fix the problem.

All of this talk about who is better is irrelevant. I do not care who you put behind the Texans current OL, they will fail. People need to stop blaming Schaub and or Keenum and put the blame where it belongs. QB protection.

Part of that is on coaching also because if my QB was getting hammered like Schaub was game in and game out, I would have changed things up and left a TE in to help block on the right side, and well as have the RB chip anyone rushing from that side, but time and time again Kubiak ignored that. These are simple adjustments that any pee wee coach knows how to teach his players to execute.

Fix the OL, or failure is imminent no matter who is the QB. If Harris plays the entire game like I expect he will against the Colts, you will see better pass protection and better QB play. FIX THE OL, then critique QB's!
 

Lucky

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If fans do not blame many of those pick 6's Schaub threw on horrible line play, then they are not being honest with themselves, and are looking for a scapegoat rather than addressing the problem.
Pick 6 vs the Titans - No pressure
Pick 6 vs the Ravens - No pressure
Pick 6 vs the Seahawks - Pressure. Because Schaub failed the see the blitz coming from the play side, where there was no protection available. Not the o-line's fault.
Pick 6 vs the Niners - No pressure

Honest???? Who's looking for a scapegoat for whom? Yes, the o-line has underperformed for both Schaub and Keenum. But that doesn't change the fact that Schaub is no longer a relevant NFL QB or that Kennum has yet to become one. Schaub is done and we don't know if Keenum will ever be. That's why Keenum is starting.
 

Nitrofish

Let The Big Fish Eat!
Schaub is done nitrofish. Get over it. It's getting sad.
There is no question Schaub is done in Houston, but I am willing to bet he is not done in the NFL. I am not lobbying going back to Schaub. That ship has sailed, but as I said, you will see Schaub play again and succeed on another team.
 

Nitrofish

Let The Big Fish Eat!
Pick 6 vs the Titans - No pressure
Pick 6 vs the Ravens - No pressure
Pick 6 vs the Seahawks - Pressure. Because Schaub failed the see the blitz coming from the play side, where there was no protection available. Not the o-line's fault.
Pick 6 vs the Niners - No pressure

Honest???? Who's looking for a scapegoat for whom? Yes, the o-line has underperformed for both Schaub and Keenum. But that doesn't change the fact that Schaub is no longer a relevant NFL QB or that Kennum has yet to become one. Schaub is done and we don't know if Keenum will ever be. That's why Keenum is starting.
I will have to go back and look at the individual plays, but you miss the point. It's not the pressure on the play in question. It was the constant pressure each and every time he dropped back that caused him to get skittish and lose his confidence. Love how you ignored that as if previous plays do not affect the next play.

I disagree with your assertion that Schaub is done in the NFL. On the Texans... no doubt, but not in the NFL. I think you sell him short.

No... Keenum is starting because Schaub was injured, and nothing more. He did not earn a chance to start because he shined in practice, or because Yates went down either. Pressure from fans and the owner kept Keenum in the game, not because he is the best QB on the team.
 

Uncle Rico

Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Have you even read the thread? Several people who don't see TB as #1 pick have said they have watched him and disagree with you & that includes me. I don't think anyone believes in stats only as you say but have identified viable concerns. You just don't agree.The professionals often change their minds as year progresses. If I do not agree with you it is because I don't understand the intricacies of the position? Could it be I do and just do not agree with you?

Concerns that "professionals" have voiced:

1. Lower than ideal release point.
2. Durability concerns after all the hits he has taken over his career, specifically to his wrist and ankle.
3. Needs to improve touch and ball placement down field
4. Mediocre opposition.
5. Sometimes doesn't recognize blitz & adjust.
6. Back shoulder drops when going deep.
7. Hand size
Post all these links to these concerns please. i've found one or two articles that cite his hand size and use of gloves as a concern. Durability? C'mon dude, if anything he's showing toughness out there, give me a break. Touch and ball placement? HAHA he's like 70% completion with beautiful touch, what in the hell are you and those professionals smoking? I need some for New Years, no doubt!
The opposition complaint has been addressed ad nauseum. Recognize blitz? Adjust? Wow, so he's not at the line adjusting blocking assignments right? Its not his fault his offensive line is a sieve. Back shoulder drops? LOL the kid has perfect mechanics out of the snap, and his intermediate passing game is unparalleled to have to critique his deep ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh4FkShqCwY
Im not trying to change minds, if Teddy decides to come out the combine will sort all this out. This is arguing with a wall, eomplete waste of time.
 
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DexmanC

Hall of Fame
Keenum does not have the ability to pick a defense apart one 1st down at a time. This is an essential skill EVERY QB must have in the NFL. If he doesn't score a TD in 3 downs, we're either kicking a field goal or punting. We've even watched Jacksonville's QB show the ability to carve up a D. Andrew Luck did it all day today. Case is 3-yards and a cloud of dust, QB-style.

Teddy Bridgewater, welcome to Houston.
 
It has become very evident the QB of the future isnt on this roster.

As a fan, I really REALLY wish Keenum had been that guy, so we could use that first overall pick to fill a different spot. But I just don't see it. He looks to be steadily moving backwards as QB.
 

bah007

Hall of Fame
I'm still willing to let Keenum finish out the year and come back next year to compete but it's pretty clear that the more tape teams get on the him the worse the results get.

He has not improved in any single way since his first start. Next year's staring QB is not on the team right now, IMO.
 
I'm still willing to let Keenum finish out the year and come back next year to compete but it's pretty clear that the more tape teams get on the him the worse the results get.
I'm with you on that. There is really no harm in letting him finish up and then keeping him around.

I'm thinking Case could have a long career in the NFL. As a backup.
 

2012Champs

Hall of Fame
True, but asserting that the only reason Keenum is starting right now is because of U of H fanboys is silly.
True. It was the starting qb getting hurt and the backup not doing well. That's the other reasons. His fan support was largely based on his time at uofh and the fan hate for schaub
 

legacy_gt

Rookie
I rooted for schaub for 7 years. I rooted for keenum when he was in. I cheered for yates as well even though he threw 2 picks in his short debut.

whichever qb is there, i'll still cheer behind my team. yates threw 2 picks, schaub was horrible, keenum had his moments then fell short. from mini strokes to firing of kubiak, it's been a disaster year but I still watch my team.

keenum is struggling but I'll still root for him.
 


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