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All Encompassing Carr Thread

I share Second Honeymoon's anger and frustration with regard to Carr-bage. Like, Vinny, I can't believe his sorry act was forced down our throats for 5 years. It bugged the hell out of me how he lacked the drive and determination to be an elite QB and a guy on which a franchise can be built upon. Being the first guy to leave and trashing your O-line does a lot to build credibility and respect in the eyes of your teammates, not to mention being absolutely awful in your job and getting REWARDED with a contract extension for awful performance.

McNair does not give a damn about winning. He is the perfect embodiment of the Houston corporate attitude of smoke and mirrors, PR, and money. That this guy was backed and rewarded because he was good looking, Christian (the religion or lack there of a person should NEVER be a factor at any job much less the NFL), and a family guy is a travesty. That ill will which factored into passing on VY built up a LOT of negative emotion in our fans. It will take more than 1 season for that to lessen.

Face it, Carr , Capers, McNair and Casserley dug a HUGE hole for this team with their ineptitude. I have no problem hating a loser like Carr who wasted our time for 5 years with his substandard play and who LACKED CHARACTER in getting paid as a #1 OVERALL PICK to try to work hard and become a great QB, pissing away what little skill he had.
 
but at least he is having fun.....

....maybe DC should have been in the Miss Teen USA pageant....

..such as...the fumble...they want more...as in such as...getting sacked and the Fresno Tuck such as....

the guy needs to have that quote immortalized in NFL Films when they talk about all-time draft busts....
 
TexansSeminole said:
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Oh man. That video is on NFL.com. Just go to the NO vs. CAR game at the top and look for the video with David Carr in the red hat. He was dead serious when he said it too. LOL.
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Maybe he did get hit one to many times. That has to be one of the dumbest things that I have ever heard anyone say.

Also, kind of off-topic, does anyone else think Carr looks like a flagrantly homosexual GAP model in that coat/jacket? Seriously, he looks like he's still in junior high. Plays like it too.
 
Don't think I saw this posted yet. If this turns out true, then Carr is, without an doubt, a bust. :hides:

Goodbye for Carr?

There is speculation among fans and media in Carolina that this could be David Carr's last season in the NFL.

Carr, who has battled injuries this season, is going through the worst season of his career. He lost the starting Panthers quarterback job to Vinny Testaverde, 44. Then Carr was pulled from last week's 31-6 loss to New Orleans in favor of Matt Moore, an undrafted free agent.

After the Texans waived him, Carr signed a two-year deal with the Panthers for $6 million.

To make matters worse for coach John Fox, who could be fired after the season and replaced by Bill Cowher, Carolina (4-7) is 0-5 at home this season. The Panthers have a seven-game losing streak at home dating to last season.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5344795.html
 
I have said it on another post, even though I'm a Carr fan I can now say he is damaged. He is probably done with the NFL. When you suffer a compression fracture of the back and two concussions in the same season your mental game is done. In 2004, he also recieved a concussion and I believe that's when his sidishness began but he had also told the coaching staff to improve the o-line and they didn't. I will go so far to say they still haven't fixed it. Also you need a running game and they really haven't got one. Do their jobs need to be put on the line or what?
 
This one has a familiar ring to it.

Fox shielded Carr from home crowd
Coach John Fox usually doesn't say much of anything in his Monday news conferences. But he did have one interesting thing to say about quarterback David Carr this week.



That came when Fox was asked to elaborate on Sunday's decision to have Carr as the third quarterback behind Vinny Testaverde and Matt Moore. Fox implied that part of that decision came because the game was in Bank of America Stadium.


"I don't know that I wanted to expose him to here at home, definitely yesterday and we'll kind of weigh that as we move forward,'' Fox said. "Anytime you don't have success, it has an effect on you mentally. I still have confidence in David Carr. I still think he has good things to offer. I don't think it's gone as well for him or for us as we'd all expected. That doesn't mean to say that it won't moving forward either.''

-- Pat Yasinskas
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If your own coach won't play you on your home field, then it might be time to start that broadcasting career.
 
Anyone listen to Steve McKinney on 1560 this morning?!??! Let's say it involved Davey with Steve McKinney playing "Straight eye for the queer guy"
 
Carr was a cautionary tale long before he left Houston. However, some our the board's resident self-professed "experts" rode his jock like Lane Frost and ate up the Texans' spin on his performance with a spoon in each hand.

I didn't need to go to every training camp practice, have 6000+ posts, or write a blog for anyone who would give me space to do it to see Carr was a joke.
 
White Runningback said:
Carr was a cautionary tale long before he left Houston. However, some our the board's resident self-professed "experts" rode his jock like Lane Frost and ate up the Texans' spin on his performance with a spoon in each hand.

I didn't need to go to every training camp practice, have 6000+ posts, or write a blog for anyone who would give me space to do it to see Carr was a joke.
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OK.

What are your thoughts on the team now?

Who's in need of being dumped, and who do we need to get? What about the coaches? What's your opinion on our QB situation, etc.?

I'd like to know.

I don't know that I can sit here and trust your comments about how you knew "David Carr was a bust" without having to have 6000 posts...does your post history go back far enough that we can see what you posted on the David Carr topic while he was still a Texans player? Not slamming you, just asking.

I'd like to see your opinions on the current state of our team and where you think it should go.
 
Somebody who thought the Texans committed a crime passing up on VY and Bush to draft Mario Williams.
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White Runningback said:
Carr was a cautionary tale long before he left Houston. However, some our the board's resident self-professed "experts" rode his jock like Lane Frost and ate up the Texans' spin on his performance with a spoon in each hand.

I didn't need to go to every training camp practice, have 6000+ posts, or write a blog for anyone who would give me space to do it to see Carr was a joke.
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Who are these so-called "self-professed experts" on the board? :um:

Honestly, I ask because I cannot name anyone that fits your description.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Anyone listen to Steve McKinney on 1560 this morning?!??! Let's say it involved Davey with Steve McKinney playing "Straight eye for the queer guy"
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I heard it. Steve had me cracking up, talking about throwing away David's gloves, cutting his hair and dressing him in jeans from Cavender's and a camo hat.

That was funnier than years ago when John and Lance asked him if David had any nicknames, and Steve said he called David "Sweet Feet".
 
From the Sports Guy

THE PROVERBIAL F-MINUS
David Carr

The perfect storm of QB crappiness: Artificially heightened expectations for no good reason (the fact an NFL team once made the mistake of drafting him first overall); no discernable talents for the position unless you call "holding the ball too long" a talent; an unparalleled, jeffgeorgian ability to suck the life out of anyone who plays with him; and if that's not enough, every time he takes off his helmet, he looks like he's posing for the June 1983 cover of Tiger Beat. When Carr is playing for your favorite NFL team, you're constantly disappointed/enraged/frustrated/disgusted, only deep down, you're telling yourself, "Hey, he was the No. 1 pick, maybe he can turn it around." So even though he's better than the guys from the "No-Week Wonders" list, at least with those guys, you have no expectations going in. Carr's suckitude is crueler and more complicated. That's why he's last on the Powerless List.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071221
 
Vinny said:
are you a Carr fan because of his great quarterbacking skillz or because he looks good in pink?
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The Texans worst stroke of luck was having the first pick in the 2002 draft .

Oh well ... Sweet Caroline bad times never felt so good ... I'm inclined to draft in the top fifteen again .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The Texans worst stroke of luck was having the first pick in the 2002 draft .

Oh well ... Sweet Caroline bad times never felt so good ... I'm inclined to draft in the top fifteen again .
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Nothing wrong with having the first pick in that draft. It's just criminal that they didn't use it on Julius Peppers.
 
Set a new NFL Record. :whip:

The one constant nearly all of the division leaders have had this year is the quarterback position. Guys like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Tony Romo and Brett Favre have started every game, and that's a big reason their teams are division winners. The Carolina Panthers? Yeah, not so much. They have officially set an NFL record for most starting quarterbacks in one season with four -- Jake Delhomme, David Carr, Vinny Testaverde and Matt Moore. Clearly, that lack of consistency at the primary offensive position is a big reason they're 6-9 and out of the playoff race. It doesn't help that once Delhomme and Brett Basanez ended up on injured reserve, Carolina's first choices at QB were 1.) really, really old and 2.) really, really bad.

Source: David J. Warner, NFL Fanhouse
 
Vinny said:
We still have a Carr fan boy around here?
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What is wrong with that. I look around Reliant Stadium when I go to games, I see Pastorini jerseys, Campbell jerseys, Moon jerseys. They accomplished the same as Carr, nada, zilch, zero. Am I saying Carr is better than them, no, but I'm sure you'll try to spin it that way as well.

I'm tired of the losing, you can keep a QB with a high long distance passing percentage and quote that all day long - and I'll quote that Matty boy can't finish 30% of the games he starts. It is all relative.

How about I like who I like and you go try to bully someone else because your kind of posting only amuses me and proves that you aren't the 'family messageboard' man that you claim to be.

Instead you try to force your opinion on others as if it is gospel. Get a life.
 
I like how almost all of the highlights are much more impressive for the receiver or running back than what David Carr did on that play.
 
Me, I'm thinking that's the end of David Carr if the Panthers waive him. I don't mean that maliciously - I just don't see how someone will be willing to pick him up if Carolina lets him go....

http://www.charlotte.com/panthers/story/483881.html

"Linebacker Dan Morgan and backup quarterback David Carr are among prominent players the Panthers could release in the coming weeks. Cutting them could save the Panthers nearly $5 million under the salary cap, according to salary documents. Morgan was once the centerpiece of the defense, but injuries, including a string of concussions, sidetracked his career. The emergence last season of rookie Jon Beason at middle linebacker might have made Morgan expendable. He's scheduled to count $4.55 million against the cap next season. Releasing him would save about $2.1 million. Cutting Carr isn't as easy for Carolina as many fans might think. His struggles were obvious when he filled in for injured Jake Delhomme. However, the organization admires his natural talent and overall classiness. Carr's cap number was forecast to be $4.35 million, but the Panthers could save $2.8 million of that by releasing him."
 
He's toast...

I expect to see "David Carr Honda/Acura" opening up on the Grand Parkway in a couple of years.

He has apparently saved much of his money from the Texans.
 
Admires his talent and overall classiness ?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This reminds me of a quote from a movie...

"The Yankee's always win because no one can keep their eyes off the pinstripes"

The Carolina Panther's management is under the same spell Bob McNair was under....

Too concerned with the nice hair, pretty boy looks and "physical qualities" to be worried about his actual Quaterback and team leading skills...

Hats off to David Carr for Charming his way through the NFL though!
 
Luv_ya_blue said:
Maybe he'll pick up some endorsements for hair gel or brushes or scrunties or something like that.

:lion:
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or Tampax and Massengil. He would be an ideal spokesperson for those products. Maybe he can endorse guyliner for Maybelline.

Overall classiness?!!? oh you mean by throwing the franchise that stood by him for half a decade under the bus? for calling the Panthers a 'real team' and for inferring that our Offensive Line sucked and that the Panthers would be the first decent offensive line he played behind? Is it classy to put little to no effort out to improve at your job or to have football as a non-priority in your life even though millions of people are counting on you and you are rewarded with millions and millions of dollars in salary?

Wearing white gloves and having meticulous hair doesnt make you classy....if anything it makes you a pretty boy primadonna metrosexual douchebag.

Carr's career is over and he can jump in a lake for all I care. Go away DC and take your lame act with you. You are pathetic, DC.
 
drewmar74 said:
Me, I'm thinking that's the end of David Carr if the Panthers waive him. I don't mean that maliciously - I just don't see how someone will be willing to pick him up if Carolina lets him go....

http://www.charlotte.com/panthers/story/483881.html

"Linebacker Dan Morgan and backup quarterback David Carr are among prominent players the Panthers could release in the coming weeks. Cutting them could save the Panthers nearly $5 million under the salary cap, according to salary documents. Morgan was once the centerpiece of the defense, but injuries, including a string of concussions, sidetracked his career. The emergence last season of rookie Jon Beason at middle linebacker might have made Morgan expendable. He's scheduled to count $4.55 million against the cap next season. Releasing him would save about $2.1 million. Cutting Carr isn't as easy for Carolina as many fans might think. His struggles were obvious when he filled in for injured Jake Delhomme. However, the organization admires his natural talent and overall classiness. Carr's cap number was forecast to be $4.35 million, but the Panthers could save $2.8 million of that by releasing him."
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Jon Gruden LOVES QBs in Tampa...so he's got one more shot.
 
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