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No, he's injured. I was referring to last week when they played the Titans.
He's been concussed out.
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No, he's injured. I was referring to last week when they played the Titans.
CHARLOTTE, NC The Carolina Panthers are hoping that a concussion suffered by quarterback David Carr might work to the teams advantage. Since entering the league as the number one overall pick of the Texans six years ago, Carr has struggled to find consistency and success in the league.
Davids problem is that he thinks too much, Panthers Quarterbacks Coach Mike McCoy told SSNN. With the concussion, obviously, the thinking ability of a player is likely to be severely hampered. Its all instinct and reaction. Were hoping that a spaced out David will lead to fewer questionable decisions.
When starting QB Jake Delhomme was lost for the season, Panther fans hoped Carr would be able to step in and lead the team. However, Carr quickly reverted to his old form panicking in the pocket and locking in on receivers.
Panthers Head Coach John Fox told reporters that Carrs concussion could save his career. He got the crap kicked out of him in Houston and it really messed him up. But who knows, with the concussion, he could become a totally different quarterback one whos not afraid to stand in the pocket and take a hit. Or at least one who has no idea that hit is coming and therefore no fear.
As long as Andre Johnson is out there, I think we have a real chance, said a visibly dazed Carr. Whether its me or Sage Rosenfels out there, with the defense this Texans team has, we can really stay in this thing.
And the spread changed a couple hundred points now. Then again, he probably would have only had 3 catches for 12 yards.
yeah, it's probably the end of Testaverde's career.
Man, does Carolina's offensive line suck or what?!
I'd say both of them, actually.
Vinny will probably hang it up for good.
Carr will probably get another chance but I'd be willing to be wager that he's out of the league by Jan. or Feb. of 09.
Maybe they just need some veteran leadership to mentor the young guys. Oh, and some WR's and a stud RB. Get all that done and Carr will thrive.
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No,Carr is basically done with the Panthers.Vinny has been named the starter for the remaining few games of the season. This will be the end of his NFL carreer and not Vinny's. I'm sure most of you fine upstanding people will take this news with great glee.
No,Carr is basically done with the Panthers.Vinny has been named the starter for the remaining few games of the season. This will be the end of his NFL carreer and not Vinny's. I'm sure most of you fine upstanding people will take this news with great glee.
water-cooler discussion.
Man, does Carolina's offensive line suck or what?!
CHARLOTTE David Carr came to Carolina hoping to be a part of a winning football team and have a chance to resurrect his NFL career.
Needless to say, things havent gone well for Carr since signing a two-year, $6 million contract with the Panthers in the spring.
In three starts, hes suffered two concussions and a compression fracture in his back and the Panthers are 4-6. He hasnt enjoyed the protection he thought he would when he escaped the Houston Texans hes been sacked 12 times, which is more than Carolinas other three quarterbacks combined and now hes been benched indefinitely for 44-year-old Vinny Testaverde.
And the season isnt even over yet.
This whole year has been a little crazy, to tell you the truth, Carr said. A little different than I had expected. At the same time, if my number is called Ill got out there and have fun, try to do what I can to give the team a spark and try to win a football game. I support whatever (coach John Fox) decides.
So what did he expect?
To tell you the truth, I dont know, Carr said.
Carr isnt into analyzing why Testaverde, whom the Panthers signed off the street last month after Carr injured his back, is playing instead of him.
If I tried to think about that all night, Id drive myself crazy, Carr said. I wouldnt be too much fun on Thanksgiving.
He believes injuries have had something to do with it, saying just this week hes finally pretty close to 100 percent.
When Carr has played, hes looked more than a little skittish in the pocket, especially since suffering the back injury on Oct. 7 against New Orleans.
You notice how he's still just going out there and trying to have fun? He was all about having fun out there when he was a Texan too.
One thing I think we can all agree on is that a football player who no longer enjoys the game is hard to watch and very rarely successful. We often hear that teams or players doing badly "aren't having fun anymore" and we all dread the idea that the "game" can become just a "job" to a player whose lost his desire to compete.
I think that this can go too far the other way too. I think that the way David is constantly talking about how he's "having fun out there", "trying to go out there and have fun", and "keeping things in perspective and having a good time" needs to maybe focus a little less on how much fun the game is and possibly try getting serious about his job. In a lot of ways he's got too damned much perspective. You don't want your QB to smile, nod, and clearly understand deep down inside that it's all just a game and not very important in the grand scheme of things. You want your QB to lose sleep at night when he has a bad game. You want him to obsess over timing with his receivers. You want him to worry about losing and to lust after winning.
David Carr just bounces a kid on his knee, smiles, and knows he's loved by Jesus. David Carr knows better than to sweat the small stuff. He might very well be right and that's great but that's also exactly what's wrong with him.
So what did he expect?
“To tell you the truth, I don’t know,” Carr said.
"If I learned anything in the last five years, that is where football games are won and lost," Carr said. "You get to a point where you're in survival mode, which is hard for me.
"Honestly, in the last five years, we haven't had much spark. If we were stuck in the forest it would be hard to light a fire with what we had going on."
Not only did Carr want to play for a team with an established offensive line but he wanted to play for a winner.
"I have been on an expansion team and it's not fun," Carr said, noting that the Texans have gone 24-56 since entering the NFL in 2002.
"I've been on teams that aren't winning and it wasn't exciting. Football is a hard enough game when you go out there and you are battling everything and you go out and lose.
"It makes it hard. I wanted to be on a team that was fun and exciting and, whether I had a chance to play right away, it didn't matter to me."
"Honestly, in the last five years, we haven't had much spark. If we were stuck in the forest it would be hard to light a fire with what we had going on."
"It's not like we were purposely trying to not score points," Carr said. "They were chanting 'More' -- that they wanted more points. And we were trying to give it to them."
"It's not like we were purposely trying to not score points," Carr said. "They were chanting 'More' -- that they wanted more points. And we were trying to give it to them."
http://www.charlotte.com/panthers/story/378088.html
last paragraph for those that think it was a joke.
wow...I like Carr as a person and wish him well, but as far as football..he is done
The Sinner: David Carr: 10-of-22, 95 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs. He's awful. Just terrible. No one can tell me that there aren't 10 quarterbacks in the Arena League, or playing in Canada that could step into the NFL tomorrow and be better than David Carr. I hate watching him play. I'd rather watch Mike Holmgren get a nude, full-body, hot oil massage from Dennis Green.
Saints cornerback Jason Craft on his team's strategy against the Panthers:
"We knew if we could go ahead and kind of disrupt [Panthers QB David] Carr a little bit, he would make some bad decisions."
Pretty good gameplanning by the Saints there. "We're going to use a defensive line today, so since we're playing David Carr, we should be in pretty good shape."
And they were. Carr was awful. Carr is awful. You really don't even need to disrupt him to get him to make bad decisions ... all you really need to do is get him to put on a football uniform Then you're all set.
I still can't believe that the Texans forced this hunk of garbage down our throat for 5 years and kept spinning his game to us as if we were too stupid to see how awful he was....the sad part is that a big chunk of our fans just bought it.
I still can't believe that the Texans forced this hunk of garbage down our throat for 5 years and kept spinning his game to us as if we were too stupid to see how awful he was....the sad part is that a big chunk of our fans just bought it.
yup, and you and I were labeled as dumbarses and no-nothings and haters by the myriad throngs of Carr homers. The guy was no good and never was good. now everyone acts like they knew it all along, but we know the truth, Vinny.....and I have a laundry list of bad reputation to prove how much Carr myopia there was in this city and this board.
Oh, and to the people that say they like him as a 'person'? why?!? because he is white, good looking, and a christian? a good 'person' wouldn't blame everyone else for their problems and wouldn't let a whole city down by not being dedicated to football and spending more time in his living room than in the film room during football season. What is there to like about that other than him being white, attractive, and a good provider for his kids. That isn't anything special to like.
this guy crapped all over your franchise, yet you call him a 'good person'.....just pathetic.
A lot of the league was stupid about it too. This is a league that Charlie Casserly does commentary for, and he's the guy that continued to maintain even after the season was going on that David Carr could be a QB in the NFL.
Oh, I was labeled a big time hater who knew nothing about football because I stated a bunch of facts about his vision, staring down receivers and lack of progress regarding simple NFL QBing things like throwing the ball away and going downfield. Despite the fact that Couch was in a similar scenario with no backers and that it wasn't uncommon for a guy drafted that high at QB to be a bust. People wanted to just keep selling the excuses. In all honesty, I didn't whole sale buy into supporting the Texans until he left. I never could watch him and knowingly cheer his 4-5 wins when he was bringing the team down.
and jerek, you were one of the biggest Carr homers in existence so don't be surprised if I don't shed a tear about Carr ruining one of your fantasy football stars seasons.....sounds like poetic justice to me![]()
For the record I think I bought into him having the "tools" (arm strength, speed) and hoped that his vision--the single overwhelming reason he continues to be so awful--could be improved with coaching and a better supporting cast. There is little denying that Capers and his staff of goons were awful at developing talent and I hoped that Carr would improve with a change of scenery.
Having said that ... thanks for ruining Steve Smith on my fantasy team.
Honestly I may have been a homer in that I believed--apparently wrongly--that he could be "fixed" as a player. So be it.
But it never ceases to amaze just how much of your time and this board's bandwidth you are willing to devote to trashing the guy. This page alone is a telling example--three nauseatingly lengthy, and extremely repetitive, diatribes.
Have you considered anger/grief counseling?
I think there was so much bad with the early Texans, it was difficult to distinguish bad, from bad bad, from bad bad bad.
David Carr really didn't do himself any favors in a post-game interview.
Early in the game, the crowd was chanting "WE WANT MOORE!" as in backup rookie QB, Matt Moore. They'd had enough of Carr.
When asked about the crowd chanting, Carr replied:
"It's not like we were purposely trying to not score points," Carr said. "They were chanting 'More' -- that they wanted more points. And we were trying to give it to them."
just wow....
not 'apparently' wrong....you were wrong. period.
don't sugarcoat it. he sucks and you were wrong and I was right....so don't expect me to shed any tears over his current plight or your fantasy football team's plight. i don't like the guy because he never gave any of us reason to like him. being white, handsome, rich, and a complete failure is nothing to like in my book.....
David Carr really didn't do himself any favors in a post-game interview.
Early in the game, the crowd was chanting "WE WANT MOORE!" as in backup rookie QB, Matt Moore. They'd had enough of Carr.
When asked about the crowd chanting, Carr replied:
"It's not like we were purposely trying to not score points," Carr said. "They were chanting 'More' -- that they wanted more points. And we were trying to give it to them."
just wow....
Honestly I may have been a homer in that I believed--apparently wrongly--that he could be "fixed" as a player. So be it.
But it never ceases to amaze just how much of your time and this board's bandwidth you are willing to devote to trashing the guy. This page alone is a telling example--three nauseatingly lengthy, and extremely repetitive, diatribes.
Have you considered anger/grief counseling?