El Tejano
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This is the part that scares me about this game. If Freeney is able to pull his annual "get all my sacks vs. The Texans" then he could change the face of the game.
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All Encompasing Peyton Manning Thread
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This is the part that scares me about this game. If Freeney is able to pull his annual "get all my sacks vs. The Texans" then he could change the face of the game.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Can't get a pile of sacks if you spend all day trying to catch Foster, Ward, and Tate.
Agreed.
Plus if this offense can just get off it's butt and score some points in the 1st half we will be OK.
We scored early and often on the Colts in Week 1 last year before we just started running it every freaking down. The drive where we ran 10/11 plays was in the 3rd quarter. We were 50/50 or even a little more pass heavy before that if I remember correctly.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I'd love to be able to get a big lead and keep it. However, I'm still a bit gun shy forcing a team into passing mode until our D can prove they can get off the field in those situations.
prostock101
Mr. Big
I think one thing that makes the Colts unique is just the way Manning runs the offense. For most teams, the backup is pretty much onboard to take over the offense and run it pretty much the way it is designed. Maybe not as well but as close as most backups get. Casel was probably the one that nailed it the best in recent memory.
But for the Colts/Manning offense I dont' think any backup can just walk on the field and do what he does. Collins? Painter? It just ain't happenin'. With that being said, the Texans cannot just expect a win. This team is a "winning" team and they have won for a long time. Just because Manning isnt' there doesn't mean these guy dont' know how to win. They absolutely do and our guys should expect a real battle.
But for the Colts/Manning offense I dont' think any backup can just walk on the field and do what he does. Collins? Painter? It just ain't happenin'. With that being said, the Texans cannot just expect a win. This team is a "winning" team and they have won for a long time. Just because Manning isnt' there doesn't mean these guy dont' know how to win. They absolutely do and our guys should expect a real battle.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Right on point. Besides, neither of them are good against the run. And if that isn't enough, you might remember that Mathis had to leave the Green Bay game early in the 1st quarter.............with a hamstring........
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
No matter what you think of Manning, there has to be a certain amount of respect given him, as he has in this difficult time has come to show some class and humility.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Getting back on topic....
Malloy
Hall of Fame
Guessing she spent a little time at the swim up bar in the background.
I would say 'alot of time'
Showtime100
Got JJ?
My first thought. Actually, my only thought. The way I see it if Houston blows this it's just another important game for the wall of dishonor.
Trap_Star
SiteContributor
public bidet.
That's correct. But I must confess that I'd never heard of one being outside before.
...I'm sorry. What were we talking about again?
oh yeah, football.
We need to win no matter who's at QB. Who Indy sends out there is their problem. Our focus should be to win.
Period.
Texas T
Veteran
Tebow anyone??
80tothezone
Veteran
If we do win I hope we get a little poetic justice and Indy comes up one game short from the playoffs
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Malloy
Hall of Fame
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I've seen this too, but am very skeptical of the source.
I hope for the best for Manning. He might be our biggest speed bump, but a back/neck/nerve injury ain't something to jack with and hope he's able to get through it without complications
RazorOye
Ayo
from Jay Glazer's Twitter:
RT @alexmarvez: RT @injuryexpert: Indy radio host @jakequery reporting Manning had another procedure on Sunday. Out for season. We'll see.
The Indy radio host from WNDE says he has two sources verifying this, prompting Glazer's tweet above.
mods: I searched this forum - but neglected to see that this was already mentioned in the Peyton thread on the NFL boards. I saw Manning threads here on the TT forum so I didn't check the other first. Please merge/delete as nececssary
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RT @alexmarvez: RT @injuryexpert: Indy radio host @jakequery reporting Manning had another procedure on Sunday. Out for season. We'll see.
The Indy radio host from WNDE says he has two sources verifying this, prompting Glazer's tweet above.
mods: I searched this forum - but neglected to see that this was already mentioned in the Peyton thread on the NFL boards. I saw Manning threads here on the TT forum so I didn't check the other first. Please merge/delete as nececssary
apologies
Showtime100
Got JJ?
I lived there for about six months (Washington St) and agree. It's like Houston isn't Texas. I remember wearing Houston jerseys and warmups, all kinds of paraphalia and getting strange looks from most folks. The peeps in Amarillo might not have liked Houston but they were far easier on me - and to talk sports with - than if you are in Austin. Cowboy fans here suck and I'm really hoping to shove it down their throats after a couple of good seasons.
I found Amarilloans (?) to know more about the pro game than Austin fans. In Austin it's all about the college game, they will never grow out of it. Maybe it was just my experience, dunno.
I remember having hell finding work and I was frustrated. A guy said, "You don't tell them you are from Austin, do you?" I said yes, my references were there. He told me that was my problem "because they know you won't stay here." No offense, but they were right. (Damned ex-wife wanting to be with her family)
Showtime100
Got JJ?
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
As long as it's not our Manning, I'm not displeased. Peyton was bound to have some bad luck after 10 years of awesome.
Trap_Star
SiteContributor
why do people say there would be an asterisk? that's f'n weak sauce. manning or not the goal is always the same. they've never put a an asterisk on any of their division titles cause they play in the division with the weak ass titans, texans, and jaguars.
Dutchrudder
Hall of Fame
Is this the thread where we post distracting gifs?
Section516
Warrior
ESPN's Adam Schefter: "One Colts official texted me this: 'We are aware of the rumors, but can't confirm rumors. That is all they are.'"
Schefter's comment; #Colts didn't deny rumor either, and my consequence history says these types of rumor are eventually confirmed
Schefter's comment; #Colts didn't deny rumor either, and my consequence history says these types of rumor are eventually confirmed
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
Because we are a Houston team and that's the way it works with the media. Hey I said I wouldn't mind. I just know that's the way it's gonna be.
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
The Colts WOULD be that lucky. Draft Peyton #1 and get a decade + of domination. Then draft Luck #1 and get another decade + of domination.andrew luck here they come
Crazy to think they just signed Peyton to that huge contract. I really hope the Colts to mildly well this season and have no shot at Andrew Luck.
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
Same reason Peyton was always nagged about getting passed Brady. I like Peyton and was glad they beat the Patriots to get to the Superbowl
But make no mistake, my allegiance is with the Texans
texanmojo
Shotgun 30 Time
And I heard (but can't confirm) that the entire contract is guaranteed.
houstonspartan
All Pro
As i said before, he just became a dad. I know he's a competitive person, but he needs to think about life after football.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Outside of Comets and Dynamo titles, what has the city of Houston got besides the 94-95 Rockets titles that came in between MJ v.1 and v.2?
That's a freaking small sample size to complain that Houston teams get disrespected for their success.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
His brother also had to stop plying for O-Miss due to spinal compression. He is fully aware of what this injury could do to him
Trap_Star
SiteContributor
Same reason Peyton was always nagged about getting passed Brady. I like Peyton and was glad they beat the Patriots to get to the Superbowl
But make no mistake, my allegiance is with the Texans
wow, color me disappointed, kimmy. out of everybody here, why you? i think our friendship has gone as far as it will go.
*sigh*
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
wow, color me disappointed, kimmy. out of everybody here, why you? i think our friendship has gone as far as it will go.
*sigh*
Hey ... When the spOILERS left, I stopped watching football all together, when I did watch, I just gravitated towards them.
When we got football back, the Texans became my team. No doubt about it.
I walk with my Texans tattoo and drive my Texan mobile proudly
No division here!
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
I don't particularly get the hatred of the Colts either. Yeah, they're in our division and they're great, but they're not a piece of **** organization with dirty punk players like Jacksonville or Tennessee. They're respectable, play an entertaining brand of football, have an all-time player, and they were the "good guys" in the war against the Patriots for years and years. I guess, for me anyway.
Trap_Star
SiteContributor
why are the pats the bad guys?
& who thought the Pats would win 12 games without Brady?
I understand the sentiment, but the truth is we don't know.
That's why they play the game.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Never liked them. Grew up not liking them since my bro is a diehard Dolphins fan. Hated them even before their success. Belichick is an asshole. They spent years winning games they had no business winning. To this day it makes me sick that they got by on the tuck rule (and I HATE the Raiders just as much as I hate New England), and with absolute losers in so many positions. Troy Brown? Deion Branch? Danny Woodhead? Kevin Faulk? Really?
Not to mention that I hate Boston sports in general. Their fans are obnoxious and pompous. They tasted a little bit of success and they became what they hate---New York fans. I despise the Red Sox and Bruins, and can only tolerate the Celtics slightly since they're such massive rivals with the team/fans I hate the most in sports, the Lakers.
I have respect for what they do, it's remarkable. And my hatred of Tom Brady has just turned into respect overall. And now, I'd rather have them win than the Jets. The Jets represent everything wrong with football. Obnoxious shithead coach, haven't done jack ****, got lucky to get into the playoffs two seasons in a row, annoying fans, etc.
Giant Tiger
Veteran
There are lots of reasons to cheer for the Patriots when they play the Colts:
1- They get slapped around the whole game, statistically should get clobbered & somehow win the game (I couldn't stand the Broncos for the same reason-still do).
2- Their fans are condescending-not classy. They forgot that they were lousy for years. They have 1 championship; I'd rather listen to Patriots fans.
3- Brady missed an entire season because he got hit, meanwhile any player who even just touches Manning gets flagged. Even Favre gets hit-the Saints hit him all day in the NFC Championship. I work with a Saints fan & he even said they'd get flagged if they did that to Manning. And why is it the Colts OL can move all they want before the snap?... Double standard.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Kimmy, you are mostly correct. Cooper Manning was going to play for Ole Miss (as a WR, the standout position he played in HS). Prior to him beginning his 1st semester, he was diagnosed as having a congenital spinal stenosis (a narrowing of the boney tunnel through which the spinal cord passes). In fact, this was diagnosed after he had a significant problem develop during his last HS basketball game. Since this condition can lead to paralysis with a hard hit, he was advised to turn away from his dreams of being an NFL WR or any other type of contact sport such as basketball.
toronto
Hall of Fame
Rare re-post. I am on the same page, especially on Boston sports fans. Try to go to a Red Sox game or Pats game. Most obnoxious fans alive, even more so than FC Barcelona (trust me they have a reason to be arrogant) or Yanks fans. Hell not even Cowboy fans in the early 90s were as bad as Pats' fans are now. Worse, they still self-loathe. They have all four ****ing teams winning championships in since 2005 and they still don't stop whining, pissing and moaning, or getting over their anti-NY hate.
And the tuck play is still on my top 5 list for worst calls ever. No matter who steps up and argues with me, I'll never understand how the hell that call happened. It was like they literally wanted Bill Simmons to STFU for life.
Belichick I hate, but wish to god he was my coach.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
If you're posting about #1, then you can't possibly like the Patriots. They are the definition of winning games they shouldn't win. Especially early on in their run.
Patriots fans are infinitely worse than Colts fans. No way to quantify it, but just my experience.
Brady and the Pats are just as protected, perhaps even moreso. All star QBs are protected. It's a QB driven league.
C
Ckw
Guest
Great post. Now the question I have is why can't more people understand this is exactly the way A&M fans feel about Texas. There is no inferiority complex. I don't know any Aggies that feel like the "little brother". It simply is just good old fashioned hatred.
Most Aggies talk about Longhorns the same way Houstonians talk about Dallas fans: UT fans are stuck up, obnoxious pricks. Is that necessarily reality? No. Do I have friends that are Longhorns that I like? Yes. I also have friends that are from Dallas and are Cowboys fans that I like. It's just a rivalry and what makes sports so great. I don't care if Texas fans feel like OU is more of a rivalry. Aggies hate them and even if they never play each other again, that hatred will remain.
GP
Go Texans!
UT signing that special TV contract with ESPN is the death of the Big 12.
A&M said "To hell with this. We're not going to sit here and watch UT get all the money, and all of us Big 12 teams be their foot servants." Good for A&M.
And OU has told UT to STFU, too. I loved how Stoops said his team can play NCAA seasons just fine without the Red River Rivalry.
I think everybody's generally fed up with UT. And ESPN. Even Pat Forde, who is on ESPN, admits that the UT-ESPN contract money is a bad, bad deal for the Big 12. Great for UT, bad for everyone else. He said he'd on board if a TV deal benefits the whole conference...not if it lines the pockets of ONE team.
For me, there's just an aura with Longhorn and Cowboys football that I think is wonky. It feels contrived. They've branded themselves well, obviously, but it feels forced upon us. Like when you watch Tv shows, and movies now, where there's always "product placement" in the background (Seinfeld tv show really started doing that whole thing way back when). I walk into Target to buy my kids school supplies, and right by the bins of crayons and notebooks, etc., there's a kiosk end-cap type of display. What is on the display stand??? Duct Tape that's burnt orange with the UT Longhorn logo on it. No other team. Just UT. Rows and rows of it.
Over time, consumers just give in. Repetitive nature of propaganda, and all that jazz.
The people who market Cowboys and Longhorn gear, in Wal-Marts and Target stores, etc., must be the same guy. Right?
GP
Go Texans!
So weird.
We've lived in a rent house, since November 2010, while our home is being built (Got started on the home in June and will be in there late October).
The rent house we're in right now, it's on Washington St! Very south end of Amarillo, good quiet neighborhood. Strange connection, eh?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Nobody thought it of course, but Cassel turned out to be a decent QB. Who would have thought the Pats would do what they did when Brady took over for Bledsoe?
That said, Kerry Collins is a guy who went back and forth with Vince Young. That doesn't say much for you. He won games at Tennessee with a great defense and great run game. Collins for his 16 year career, has throw almost as many INTs as TDs 195/206. Unlike the Pats example, you didn't know what to expect from Cassel, since he had never played. After 16 years, you pretty much know what you're getting from Collins.
I don't know if the Colts will be a cellar dweller or not, but they aren't going to be anywhere near what they were with 18. And that's about all they've ever been the last decade or so is 18.
18 makes them go with precision passes, precision timing, recognizing every look you could ever throw at him and all that jazz. He is the true field general. Kerry Collins isn't going to give you that. 18's career completion percentage is higher than Kerry Collins single season best completion percentage.
Yeah, you still have to play the games, but the Colts aren't going very far without 18.