So nobody?
Al isn't Burfict., he's never been thrown out a game or suspended Burfict has had all of these things happen to him.
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Al isn't Burfict., he's never been thrown out a game or suspended Burfict has had all of these things happen to him.
BullRushTX
To'oTo'o A'go-go
Just go full WWE. Neville Hewitt out there suplexing QBs like Chris Benoit. Lol
Then, I would be 100% on board with the "NFL is rigged/scripted" people.
Yes it was an illegal hit a hit that probably deserves one game and a fine. Forgive me if I agree with people who have played in the NFL and are grown men's opinions rather than the grown keyboard warriors on this MB.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I wasn’t going to chime in anymore because the mods are hitting the delete button again.
This is clearly a case of the NFL screwing over the Texans again. They do not like the fact that we’re relevant again and how quickly we got there. The Titans brass is still butt hurt about how we kicked their ashes last season when they had on the Oilers uniforms. I’m pretty sure they didn’t like the noise talking by Hannah. So this was the perfect time for them to stick it to us. Especially since they had one of their executives apart of that particular panel.
The two members who are against Al didn’t say a freaking thing when Mixon got hurt from a drop hip tackle. It was a very dirty hit that could’ve ended Mixons year/career. But hey I digress. They can have it.
It's rigged the rules aren't applied equally might as well turn the NFL into the WWE
BS!!! Don't give them whiney bitches anything!
I’m not sure who you are calling a *****, I do know you didn’t have the courage or stones to give your honest opinion on if the hit was legal or not. You just put your fingers in your ears and sang la la la to make it all go away like a child. Real man. It’s been four days, do you agree with the hit or not?
Crying about the NFL not liking the Texans because of an illegal hit defined in the rule book. Get some Kleenex.
I agree that the rules aren't applied evenly and thats a problem.
If you dont have structure to your rule system and a set precedent of punishments you have chaos not order.
I do believe that the Al hit was stupid and unnecessary. I also believe that the Jags players acted EXACTLY as I would want my team to respond in reverse. I just wont pretend he is the only one doing it. This is just another blip pn the NFL radar.
I just refuse to believe that the NFL is rigged. IF I truly believed I was watching scripted football.
I don't need a slightly more masculine day time soap in my life. I want to see my team win (or at least be a serious contender rather than pretender so I have hope that soon they WILL win.)
I also cant believe its rigged and they haven't gone for the ultimate show down. Cowboys vs Texans in a SB.
Yes, not everyone lives in Texas.... but pretty much everyone who watches football has an opinion one way or another on the Cowboys even if they are indifferent to the Texans.
Also, if its scripted/rigged they need new writers and plot lines cause seeing the same teams repeatedly and a lot of the dullest games in history on the biggest stage isn't... at least.. I wouldn't think.... to be a great business model.
You don't know sh!t baby... your lack of reading comprehension is abyssmal.
yes but you need a deeper level of sh!t
asked and answered
It's you baby
Texansballer74
The Marine
So the illegal hit on Mixon was ok in your book huh. Because like I said dude you never addressed that hit. But you’re going on and on about what a Texans player did. Many move on with this crap
There have been multiple hip drop tackles by the Texans that were not flagged. Go and get some cheese to go with that whine.
heymak
"I know nothing!". (Veteran)
I just misread the schedule. Besides sometimes I just make a "drive by post" to stir the pot.
You should be talking to yourself in an echo chamber with that
I can't help it that you can't read
As was pointed out to me earlier practically any kind of contact between a defender and
a QBs head & neck area is against the rules so our guys hit/tackle was clearly illegal but the punalty is extreme and comes right in the stretch run of the entire season leading into the P/Os but fair or not never the less the league has chosen to make an example out of Aeezs actions.
End of story.
a QBs head & neck area is against the rules so our guys hit/tackle was clearly illegal but the punalty is extreme and comes right in the stretch run of the entire season leading into the P/Os but fair or not never the less the league has chosen to make an example out of Aeezs actions.
End of story.
Thank God this topic of discussion has ran its useful course.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Mangler
Toro de España
While I don’t condone dirty/unnecessary hits, I’m not about to sit here and pretend that Azee’s hit on Trevor was illegal or dirty. It was a forearm to the chest/neck due to the QB becoming a runner and sliding late. Which is 100% legal. I thought it was wreck less seeing it live, as it looked like a helmet to helmet hit, but that was not the case. Trash suspension, and those calling for a permanent suspension or for Azees being cut can eat a big floppy donkey schlong!
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Or a bowl of them..that works too.
It’s not legal. That’s why he was ejected. Porky was right though, a good bunch of you sound like high school children. The rules are clear no matter how many times you bang your head against the wall to get a different result. Almost a week later and still nothing but whining about how it’s not fair. Truly incredible stuff.
None of this makes the Texans not be 8-5.
Honestly, it would be nice if folks could say the real reason they are mad about the length of games is because of the importance of the games coming up and the quality of the opponents. There would likely not be the same outrage if it wasn’t KC and Baltimore. It also indicates fear in not winning those games.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Lol they got to have the last word too. This bi-week can’t move fast enough.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Although Burfict was fined multiple times prior to 2016, he was never ejected from a game until 2018, after his 2016 multi-game suspensions.
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Azeez Al-Shaair’s history of violations surfaces
Published December 6, 2024 10:44 AM
When the NFL announced its three-game suspension of Texans linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair, the league made general reference to his “multiple offenses for personal fouls and sportsmanship-related rules violations in recent seasons.”
With lingering criticism of an appeals process that lacked transparency — and that was tainted by an apparent conflict of interest — the full history of Al-Shaair’s on-field infractions is emerging, unofficially.
PFT has obtained the full list. There are 13, dating back to 2020. Only seven of them resulted in fines.
Three happened this year. First, Al-Shaair engaged in a Week 2 sideline fight against the Bears. He was fined $11,817, and it was not appealed. Second, he hit Titans running back Tony Pollard out of bounds in Week 12. The $11,255 fine is pending.
Another one happened during the Jaguars game on Sunday. Al-Shaair was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct, but not fined. (At least not yet.)
During the 2023 season, Al-Shaair was fined $13,934 for a blow to the head/neck of a quarterback. He also was fined $10,927 for a face mask foul.
During the 2022 season, Al-Shaair was fined $11,139 for fighting. (It was reduced on appeal to $8,911.)
During the 2021 season, Al-Shaair was disciplined, without an actual fine imposed, for four instances of illegal use of the helmet. On one occasion, he was fined $41,200 for use of helmet. (It was affirmed on appeal.)
During the 2020 season, Al-Shaair was disciplined once for use of helmet, without a fine. On another occasion that year, he was fined $4,000 for use of helmet. (The fine was reduced to $3,200 on appeal.)
As to the seven instances on which Al-Shaair was disciplined for use of helmet, he was fined only twice. The lack of fines hints at a broader effort by the league, during that time period, to aggressively enforce the rule against lowering the helmet and making forcible contact with an opponent. Common sense suggests that, if Al-Shaair was the only one doing it, he would have been fined more than two out of seven times.
Common sense also suggests that the league is reeling a bit from the blowback to the Al-Shaair suspension, both from the Texans and elsewhere. But it’s deserved. Instead of simply focusing on the blatantly illegal hit on Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence, the league has tried to paint Al-Shaair as a villain.
Why not just suspend him for the hit, without a P.R. effort aimed at making him look worse? The hit speaks for itself. Late slide or not, Al-Shaair came in hot with a forearm to the head of Lawrence. Al-Shaair could have tried to avoid Lawrence. Instead, Al-Shaair embraced the opportunity to make a Bednarik-style hit.
That should be enough for the suspension. The rest of it is just noise. And now there’s more noise, in the form of a history of discipline that looks a lot worse on the surface than it probably is — especially if the 2021 discipline (without fines) points to a broader philosophical issue as to when and how to punish players for hits that are inherent to playing football.
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Mangler
Toro de España
Besides the suspension being bs (my personal opinion) THIS is what sucks even more about it. Expect the NFL’s Golden Boy Mahomes to look like a god against us, and Lamar will probably have an MVP performance now that our best linebacker is out. I’m not expecting to hose games to be close, not that I expected us to win them before the suspension happened, but we have less of a chance now.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I can get down with the way the NFL approached it to an extent, but the history has to be taken into account. If we wipe out the using the crown of the helmet stuff...it's still a fairly extensive history.
I hear a lot of "this is his first suspension" stuff. Which to me isn't a valid argument in favor of Azeez, but to keep it simple, the fact that his punishment was "lite" in the past, doesn't mean that the cumulative effect of his behavior shouldn't be taken into account.
Two games was the sweet spot imho. But DeMeco and especially Nick somehow stuck his foot directly into his mouth, making a manageable situation worse. Nick's presser, along with the general lack of contrition/joker/sm posts by Azeez, are the direct cause of the suspension being upheld.
MAYBE Azeez will learn from this and learn to comport with the rules, but somehow I'm doubting that. For now...I look forward to seeing him back for the Tits and into the playoffs and we'll see him next year. I am willing to extend additional grace to him...but he MUST learn from this. I really hope that is the case. For me - time to move forward and not back.
I hear a lot of "this is his first suspension" stuff. Which to me isn't a valid argument in favor of Azeez, but to keep it simple, the fact that his punishment was "lite" in the past, doesn't mean that the cumulative effect of his behavior shouldn't be taken into account.
Two games was the sweet spot imho. But DeMeco and especially Nick somehow stuck his foot directly into his mouth, making a manageable situation worse. Nick's presser, along with the general lack of contrition/joker/sm posts by Azeez, are the direct cause of the suspension being upheld.
MAYBE Azeez will learn from this and learn to comport with the rules, but somehow I'm doubting that. For now...I look forward to seeing him back for the Tits and into the playoffs and we'll see him next year. I am willing to extend additional grace to him...but he MUST learn from this. I really hope that is the case. For me - time to move forward and not back.
This
As usual. This is Watson's fault. A bye week and Watson out for the season. Some posters got to have something to gnaw and paw at. I call it the "lion with a pork chop" syndrome.
For a diversion, I think I will bump those Watson threads
You brought him up. I forgot you were his personal defender.
LMAO. It worked. No thanks needed.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Already, usually they’re on the Watson thread over in the NFL section. Then they went all in on CJ because he’s a client of Mulugheta and he’s not playing like he did last season. Now this, and if you go look back over the D-trash threads we’ll notice the amount of comments dude has on it. Insane amount, and why?
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Texansballer74
The Marine
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
You craft your own false narratives.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Since you specifically asked. I was really upset about the illegal tackle on Mixon. It put him out for 3 games. Uncalled for and I know it's something they are trying to take from the game.
But there some distinctions.
First, this is a new rule, and it's super hard to enforce or decipher. Ref to ref, time to time. I think very few have been called because it's so nebulous. Hell, I've seen videos displayed with "experts" arguing both sides—it's a hip drop...next guy... no, it isn't. An obvious illegal and blatant forearm to the head is WAY easier to call.
Second, area of the body. A "hip" won't kill you. It won't paralyze you. It won't give you brain injuries. It won't give you CTE, a permanent condition. Juinor Seau didn't commit suicide because he had a bad hip. I mean truly...you don't know hits to the head are WAY worse of a toll on a human being than a hip in terms of his life outside of football?
Third, that guy is another team's issue, not ours. To put it a different way...I hold my family to a much higher standard than your family. Like I'm weird about my house. I keep it very clean. If you come over, you could eat off the floor. That is my standard for MY home. But it wouldn't bother me if I come to your home and it's messy and seems like it needs a good clean. That's YOUR issue...not mine. I want "my guys" to be the standard bearers, not the laggards when it comes to playing clean, solid football.
Lastly, I'll be honest and say I don't remember who the player was, nor do I know his history. Does he have a lot of history of illegal hits? If not, and he lacks history and knowing it's not a blow to the head...I'm going to give him more grace than a "headhunter" no matter which team. Berfect? Hated that guy. Total headhunter. He was always in trouble. We don't need "that guy" on this team. I don't think Azees if Berfect...yet. But he needs to nip it in the bud and not become Berfect.
In short, we need a well-coached, disciplined team that isn't 2nd most in penalties and likely gaining a poor reputation - basically asking for more scrutiny from the league and the refs, likely provoking even more flags. That's not a winning formula. Let's be above the fray, play clean, play hard, and play physical but not pushing the envelope and going after guy's heads. That's uncalled for and is why Azeez is paying the price he is.