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AJ McCarron

"There's not much more you can throw at him schematically this kid hasn't seen. He knows how to get you in the right play and manage the game and handle the pressure and play in front of the big crowds. McCarron is probably ready to hit the ground running Day 1. But I don't know that (he) ever takes another step in terms of that total development." – NFC scout
 
Playoffs said:
"There's not much more you can throw at him schematically this kid hasn't seen. He knows how to get you in the right play and manage the game and handle the pressure and play in front of the big crowds. McCarron is probably ready to hit the ground running Day 1. But I don't know that (he) ever takes another step in terms of that total development." – NFC scout
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AJ would have AJ + Hopkins + Foster + Brown/Myers/Brooks. Give him a RT like Robinson with Quess at LG and he should be fine. Improve the D with a good SS, ILB and a nickle corner..wait I may be saying too much...:peek:
 
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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
That’s the #Cowboys spot RT @NFL_ATL: RT @NFL_CFB: AJ McCarron told he could be drafted as high as No. 16. http://on.nfl.com/1fMATX0
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Makes sense to me.

He's Bridgewater, but bigger, played for a bigger program in a bigger conference, in bigger games.

"But Bridgewater plays with more poise."

I don't know about that. McCarron has shown very good poise.

"But Bridgewater has a higher football IQ"

McCarron has a pretty high football IQ

"But Bridgewater is more accurate"

McCarron is pretty accurate himself.

I said from the get go, If I were the Texans I'm not thinking about a QB in the first, with 1-1 if I feel that I can get McCarron in the 3rd or 4th rounds. But if there was an inkling of a hint that anyone was looking at McCarron before 33, I'm taking him with the #1 overall pick.

He's Carson Palmer without the arm & I'd ideally like to take him between 6-10, but with so many QB needy teams in the top 10, I won't chance it.
 
thunderkyss said:
Makes sense to me.

He's Bridgewater, but bigger, played for a bigger program in a bigger conference, in bigger games.

"But Bridgewater plays with more poise."

I don't know about that. McCarron has shown very good poise.

"But Bridgewater has a higher football IQ"

McCarron has a pretty high football IQ

"But Bridgewater is more accurate"

McCarron is pretty accurate himself.

I said from the get go, If I were the Texans I'm not thinking about a QB in the first, with 1-1 if I feel that I can get McCarron in the 3rd or 4th rounds. But if there was an inkling of a hint that anyone was looking at McCarron before 33, I'm taking him with the #1 overall pick.

He's Carson Palmer without the arm & I'd ideally like to take him between 6-10, but with so many QB needy teams in the top 10, I won't chance it.
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Good thing you're NOT the texans.
 
thunderkyss said:
Makes sense to me.

He's Bridgewater, but bigger, played for a bigger program in a bigger conference, in bigger games.

"But Bridgewater plays with more poise."

I don't know about that. McCarron has shown very good poise.

"But Bridgewater has a higher football IQ"

McCarron has a pretty high football IQ

"But Bridgewater is more accurate"

McCarron is pretty accurate himself.

I said from the get go, If I were the Texans I'm not thinking about a QB in the first, with 1-1 if I feel that I can get McCarron in the 3rd or 4th rounds. But if there was an inkling of a hint that anyone was looking at McCarron before 33, I'm taking him with the #1 overall pick.

He's Carson Palmer without the arm & I'd ideally like to take him between 6-10, but with so many QB needy teams in the top 10, I won't chance it.
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I'm not sure I'd take him in the first round but I'm with you in terms of going after this kid. I found some of his game tape on youtube and was really impressed with his pocket awareness and accuracy (a trait OB has routinely identifies as invaluable). I also value the ability to win in prospective QBs and Mccarron's showcased this ability extensively. Sure, he played for Saban and had top talent around him but that still doesn't overshadow the fact that he accrued just four losses over his career at Alabama. The guy takes his work very seriously and plays gritty in close games (the Auburn game in particular, even though they lost). I mean, he wouldn't even give up his place-holding duties on extra points in order to insure his team had the best opportunity to win week in and week out.
 
b0ng said:
The "ability to win" is made up bull****. That ability to win was called the Tide defense.
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Kind of my thoughts as well. He may have some potential and could one day be an Alex Smith type of QB, but I don't think he'll ever be anything special. I'd be very disappointed if that is who we end up with.
 
b0ng said:
The "ability to win" is made up bull****. That ability to win was called the Tide defense.
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The defense that Manziel lit up, Auburn lit up, Oklahoma lit up?

The Alabama defense was only slightly above avg this yr. The thought that they weren't was only built on reputation.
 
b0ng said:
The "ability to win" is made up bull****. That ability to win was called the Tide defense.
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All I'm saying is that for every Matt Leinart bust out there, there are ten Jimmy Clausens and Jake Lockers. Guys who flashed excessive talent at times in college but always seemed to come up short in big games. And, for the record, I don't hold to the belief that talent is the only thing we need to look for in our next starting QB. Say what you will about what great leaders AJ, Cush, JJ and even OB are, but when **** hits the fan the best teams' players look to their quarterbacks first for guidance on how to get back on top. We need a leader at this position that can institute organizational changes within the locker room that will help direct this team back to the playoffs. Someone that doesn't just lead by example but who can see the big picture and effectively rally his people into achieving something that may even exceed their own expectations.

In other words, we need the kind of guy who can bag two national championships in three years while courting and maintaining a relationship with the hottest woman that the state of Alabama has EVER managed to squeeze out from in between its inherently racist, haggard-ass thighs. If you can identify anyone else in this draft who displays these traits as evidently as Mccarron, I would love to hear your thoughts.

P.S. The comment about the girlfriend really didn't have anything to do with his leadership abilities, I know. It's just way, way too easy to insult Alabama. Seriously, they're like the South's equivalent of France. Even Tennessee joins in when it's time to make jokes about Bama's inbred population.
 
steelbtexan said:
The defense that Manziel lit up, Auburn lit up, Oklahoma lit up?

The Alabama defense was only slightly above avg this yr. The thought that they weren't was only built on reputation.
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Alabama's defense managed to rank #4 in the nation in points and #5 in yards.

A very key stat that people overlook for Alabama:

They were #85 in the country in Red Zone Offense, with only 35 TDs in 54 opportunities. 20 of those 35 were on the ground.
 
bah007 said:
Alabama's defense managed to rank #4 in the nation in points and #5 in yards.

A very key stat that people overlook for Alabama:

They were #85 in the country in Red Zone Offense, with only 35 TDs in 54 opportunities. 20 of those 35 were on the ground.
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Skewed stats, when you consider the Tide played vaunted offenses like Va.Tech/Georgia State/Kentucky/Tennesee/Miss St./Chattanooga.

Every above avg offense they played against the Tide's defense was exposed.
 
steelbtexan said:
Skewed stats, when you consider the Tide played vaunted offenses like Va.Tech/Georgia State/Kentucky/Tennesee/Miss St./Chattanooga.

Every above avg offense they played against the Tide's defense was exposed.
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Seems to me that you either have no clue what you are talking about or you are just talking out of your ass because you know you are wrong.

Alabama's Opponent - Points Scored (Opponent's Average Against All Other Teams)

Virginia Tech -10 (23.5)
Texas A&M - 42 (44.4)
Colorado St - 6 (38.5)
Mississippi - 0 (32.5)
Georgia St - 3 (20.8)
Kentucky - 7 (21.7)
Arkansas - 0 (22.6)
Tennessee - 10 (25.1)
LSU - 17 (37.4)
Mississippi St - 7 (29.4)
Chattanoonga - 0 (28.7)
Auburn - 34 (39.9)
Oklahoma - 45 (31.8)

Alabama actually held their opponents to an average of 16.6 points less than their average. Texas A&M, Auburn, and Oklahoma were the only teams to even get within 13 points of their average.

And Oklahoma was the only team to score more than their average. Unbelievably (or perhaps not), in that Oklahoma game McCarron had three turnovers. He threw two INTs, and Oklahoma scored a TD on the very first play after both. And he had a fumble that Oklahoma returned for a TD. So McCarron can claim an assist on the opposing team's point total being so high in that game.

I'm not trying to claim that this year's version of Alabama's defense stacks up with Saban's best. But it is disingenuous at best to say that they were only slightly above average. It would seem that if Alabama's defense were only slightly above average then that total would be closer to 0 than 16.6.
 
First, they took shots at Michael Sam's NFL future. Then, they started questioning Jadeveon Clowney's commitment. But this time, anonymous NFL executives have gone too far. They told former Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron that he could be drafted as high as the 16th pick.
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:spit:
 
Gruden on Aj McCarron

1. McCarron reminds me of my old quarterback, Brad Johnson.
Everybody calls McCarron a game manager. That's fine by me. When I was coaching Tampa Bay, we won a Super Bowl with one of the great game managers I've ever been around in Brad Johnson. He got it done in the pocket, he got it done with great preparation and when a throw had to be made, he made it. The bigger the game, the better he played.​

2. Fixing mechanics has been key.
We spent a big part of our show with him talking about how he changed his footwork in the shotgun after his second year as a starter, right before the Notre Dame game. McCarron is very meticulous, very interested in studying the great NFL quarterbacks and how they do things. He studies Tom Brady, he studies Aaron Rodgers, he studies Tony Romo. He studies the best passers in the league and steals from them. I give him a lot of credit for doing that. A lot of guys would never think to look at a guy's stance in the shotgun, for example. McCarron initially had his right foot back, like Aaron Rodgers did. Brady had it that way too. Romo as well. But prior to that Notre Dame game, McCarron switched it back to his left.​

3. The work ethic is there.
I like the way he's constantly looking for ways to get better. He studied, went on the field, rehearsed things.

I give him credit for putting in the time to find the best way to get rid of the ball balanced from in the shotgun. Everything starts from the bottom up.​

4. Toughness is a strength.
McCarron is a tough kid. He played his entire senior year through multiple injuries. He is not the kind of guy who likes everything talked about. He won't be in there telling the staff to list him as questionable or probable. He won't miss practice or lie on the ground for long periods of time after he gets hit.​

5. It takes just one team to love you.
I have no idea where McCarron is going to get drafted, but like I said, it takes just one team to love you in order to come off the board. McCarron has the NFL size, he has an unbelievable pedigree playing for Nick Saban and winning 36 of 40 games. He has been in the big arena and he likes the big arena. Some team that has a plan for him will take him, whether that is at the end of the first round or in the second or third. Men like him play in the NFL because they are good with the ball and coaches trust them. They put in the time. It might not be Year 1, like everyone wants, but he is the kind of kid you want in your program.​
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thunderkyss said:
Gruden on Aj McCarron

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I find it funny that Gruden says such nice things about Brad Johnson because as soon as he won a SB with him, he was trying to get rid of him. He was probably trying to get rid of Brad Johnson even before he won a SB with him. Brad Johnson was the last QB Gruden wanted and just played him because he was stuck with him.

At least, that's the way it looked from where I was sitting.
 
2014 NFL Draft's Most Intriguing Prospect

“If you really watch Alabama’s games, when the chips were down, he seemed to rise up and make more plays than what he’s probably been given credit for,” Savage said.


Either he’s an incredibly underrated passer who is a sound decision-maker that can make all of the throws and possesses elite intangible qualities, or he’s Nick Saban’s caretaker on a team loaded with NFL talent surrounding him.

Pat Kirwan of CBS Sports, who also spent time in the NFL as a coach and as an executive, feels McCarron’s strengths make him an attractive option for teams in the market for a franchise quarterback.
McCarron is better than a game manager, as he is often described. ... He throws a catchable ball and reminded me a bit of a Brad Johnson or Matt Schaub with his style. He does some of the subtle things like looking off safeties and lets coverage dictate where to go with the ball. He could run a traditional NFL offense and I don't think it's fair to group him with former Alabama quarterbacks Greg McElroy or John Parker Wilson.
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As an added bonus, his ability to handle the pressure at a football-crazed school such as Alabama and playing for a coach such as Saban is the closest simulation a college quarterback can get to being the face of an NFL franchise.

In other words, being “pissed off for greatness” has prepared him for the journey of finding success in the NFL.
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TK's draft party is contingent on a guarantee from McNair that we will select McCarron with the #1 pick...:fingergun:
 
TK and me may be the only ones, but at this point I wouldn't mind the Texans taking the next best defensive player tonight and McCarron in the 3rd. Dude has tattoos just like Kapernick, maybe he'll be a steal too. :thinking:
 
santo said:
TK and me may be the only ones, but at this point I wouldn't mind the Texans taking the next best defensive player tonight and McCarron in the 3rd. Dude has tattoos just like Kapernick, maybe he'll be a steal too. :thinking:
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Heck no. I don't think he'll be there in the third. I think we should take him & take him now. Raiders, Bucs, Titans pick in the next ten picks, one of them are going to take Carr, then it's McCarron.


He's not flashy, I understand why people are down on him. But he's exactly what I'd be looking for if I were building NewEngland South.
 
thunderkyss said:
He's not flashy, I understand why people are down on him. But he's exactly what I'd be looking for if I were building NewEngland South.
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You're not going to like this, but the rumor is that the Pats will draft McCarron, then trade Mallett to the Texans.
 
thunderkyss said:
Heck no. I don't think he'll be there in the third. I think we should take him & take him now. Raiders, Bucs, Titans pick in the next ten picks, one of them are going to take Carr, then it's McCarron.


He's not flashy, I understand why people are down on him. But he's exactly what I'd be looking for if I were building NewEngland South.
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I feel the same way. I think if we pass on a qb tonight in the second, Carr would be next to go, followed by McCarron then Murray leaving us with the bottom of the barrel of qbs. Unless they think Fitzpatrick, Yates or Keenum are progressing.
 
Rapaport says there were personality issues with McCarron. "How much did teammates like him, how much did they actually follow him."


I can see that.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
TK: Now a Bengal's fan.

:kitten:
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TK just got inked .

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The Pencil Neck said:
TK: Now a Bengal's fan.

:kitten:
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I think that's going to be an interesting story for years to come.

Manziel vs McCarron

Hype vs Overlooked

Will be interesting, but I think the power in the North has shifted to those two clubs.












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