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3rd Round DeVier Posey WR Ohio State

Blake said:
Yes he does. He took excess money for a job, received improper benefits and sold memorabilia, all NCAA violation.

It doesnt matter if you agree with it or not. All are violations. I could steal food to feed my starving family. Doesnt mean I didnt do anything wrong.
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Does getting caught make the character concerns bigger for him than those who didn't get caught. How many NFL players have accepted cash "donations" from overzealous boosters? I'm not going to guess at a percentage, but I think it's safe to assume there's a fair number of those players in the NFL that we aren't aware of. Heck, Nevin Shapiro alleges that Andre Johnson accepted free drinks and VIP room access while at the U. Any character issues that may have existed had this been known at the time Andre was drafted would appear to be unwarranted at this point.

There are character concerns, and "real" character concerns. Violence, and self destructive activities would warrant genuine reluctance on the part of NFL teams. IMO, the type of things we're hearing with Posey warrant awareness, but certainly not anywhere near the level that the breaking of actual laws would.
 
Lets get one thing straight. I do not think only OSU and OSU players break the rules. So dont even bother arguing that. But I refuse to ignore rule breaking by someone just because others who have not been caught do it. I can only view a player with the information given to me. Regardless of who breaks the rules, I do think OSU needs to clean up their program. But thats another debate.

Lastly, I am not trying to force anyone to think he has 'character' concerns. I said that I view him as a player with 'character' flaws and that it surprised me because we usually dont draft players that have done something like this. If you want to view his actions as understandable then go ahead. I have already stated that some of us will view it differently.
 
Blake said:
Lets get one thing straight. I do not think only OSU and OSU players break the rules. So dont even bother arguing that. But I refuse to ignore rule breaking by someone just because others who have not been caught do it. I can only view a player with the information given to me. Regardless of who breaks the rules, I do think OSU needs to clean up their program. But thats another debate.

Lastly, I am not trying to force anyone to think he has 'character' concerns. I said that I view him as a player with 'character' flaws and that it surprised me because we usually dont draft players that have done something like this. If you want to view his actions as understandable then go ahead. I have already stated that some of us will view it differently.
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Could you please provide us some examples of players who have had these type of character concerns where those concerns being overlooked has come back to bite the NFL team?
 
Rey said:
Such as?
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Well, to Blake's point, Posey's character flaw is that he's a rule-breaker and he doesn't have foresight and possibly has issues with determining the "right" thing to do. The NCAA said "don't do this" and Posey went out and did it. He had to know that jeopardized his NFL career (bad foresight). And when asked, he said he'd do it again (problem determining the right thing to do.)

I don't agree with Blake on this but I see his side of the argument.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Could you please provide us some examples of players who have had these type of character concerns where those concerns being overlooked has come back to bite the NFL team?
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Right after you provide examples of players who have had these type of character concerns where those concerns being overlooked did not come back to bite the NFL team.

Rey said:
Such as?
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I already stated them.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Could you please provide us some examples of players who have had these type of character concerns where those concerns being overlooked has come back to bite the NFL team?
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Eric Dickerson...dude just fell apart... The character issues displayed while at SMU should have been a red flag...
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Well, to Blake's point, Posey's character flaw is that he's a rule-breaker and he doesn't have foresight and possibly has issues with determining the "right" thing to do. The NCAA said "don't do this" and Posey went out and did it. He had to know that jeopardized his NFL career (bad foresight). And when asked, he said he'd do it again (problem determining the right thing to do.)
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Ok.

Well then I disagree.

It was a genuine question. I thought maybe he had done some other things that I hadn't heard about throughout the course of his life.

I think there is a big difference betwen having "character flaws" and "making some mistakes".

I think we've all made mistakes and done some things we may not be proud of, but I don't think it means we have character flaws.

And then on top of all that, this bad decision or mistake he made was pretty mild in comparison.

Breaking rules doesn't mean you have character flaws either. By that logic, the people that founded this country had character flaws because.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Well, to Blake's point, Posey's character flaw is that he's a rule-breaker and he doesn't have foresight and possibly has issues with determining the "right" thing to do. The NCAA said "don't do this" and Posey went out and did it. He had to know that jeopardized his NFL career (bad foresight). And when asked, he said he'd do it again (problem determining the right thing to do.)

I don't agree with Blake on this but I see his side of the argument.
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Thank you. I am not saying he is a horrible person or a some super villain.
 
Rey said:
I think there is a big difference betwen having "character flaws" and "making some mistakes".
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Another thing. I put 'character' flaws in quotes because alot of things get lumped into that category. When talking draft stock, anytime there is a personal question mark its classified as a 'character flaw'. There are different degree's of character flaws and I think that is where the disconnect is between myself and some of the other posters in this thread.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Could you please provide us some examples of players who have had these type of character concerns where those concerns being overlooked has come back to bite the NFL team?
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And that's really where the problem comes in: "TYPE" of character concerns.

NCAA rules violations get lumped together but there are really whole different sets of them: money issues, PED issues, drug issues, and I have a feeling there are probably more sorts of categories and types I'm not remembering.

I don't know if I even know where to search or what to search for to find out these things.

Eric Dickerson was involved in a play for pay scandal, right? Cush had PED issues, although they were never proved.

Maurice Clarett? He had all sorts of legal issues.

Lawrence Phillips... more legal issues.

But I don't have an exhaustive list, so I can't say for sure.

Guys like Clarett and Phillips, with issues with the law where they're acting like thugs, are in a different "class" to me than a guy who's doing things that are on the edge of what the NCAA allows and are totally legal.
 
Blake said:
Right after you provide examples of players who have had these type of character concerns where those concerns being overlooked did not come back to bite the NFL team.



I already stated them.
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I already provided Andre's name, Reggies Bush had similar type issues at USC, and while his career hasn't been stellar, his character concerns have never caused a problem. In the NBA, I believe Chris Weber had a issue with accepting booster payments outside of NCAA rules, and I'm not aware of any problems for any of his NBA teams as a result of these character concerns. Derek Rose had some allegations related to his time at (or prior to) Memphis, and unless character concerns cause torn ACL's, I'm not aware of problems with him.

Terelle Pryor was involved in the same tattoo scandal that Posey was, and I'm not aware of any problems that exist in Oakland because of those character concern.

Your turn.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
And that's really where the problem comes in: "TYPE" of character concerns.

NCAA rules violations get lumped together but there are really whole different sets of them: money issues, PED issues, drug issues, and I have a feeling there are probably more sorts of categories and types I'm not remembering.

I don't know if I even know where to search or what to search for to find out these things.

Eric Dickerson was involved in a play for pay scandal, right? Cush had PED issues, although they were never proved.

Maurice Clarett? He had all sorts of legal issues.

Lawrence Phillips... more legal issues.

But I don't have an exhaustive list, so I can't say for sure.

Guys like Clarett and Phillips, with issues with the law where they're acting like thugs, are in a different "class" to me than a guy who's doing things that are on the edge of what the NCAA allows and are totally legal.
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And that's why I specified that issues of violence or self destruction are completely valid, but we have no reason to believe those type of concerns exist with Posey.

Edit: I actually thought about using James and Dickerson as examples in my previous post, but to the best of my knowledge, there is neither proof nor any sort of confession that either accepted cash - even though it's generally assumed they did.
 
Funny how differently we look at those who get caught (Posey), accused (Cam Newton) and those who are never accsued or caught (a fair number of players who enter the NFL).

Breaking NCAA rules does not, and should never, equate to breaking the law.
 
Errant Hothy said:
Funny how differently we look at those who get caught (Posey), accused (Cam Newton) and those who are never accsued or caught (a fair number of players who enter the NFL).

Breaking NCAA rules does not, and should never, equate to breaking the law.
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You change your user name?
 
beerlover said:
How does a big time weapon @ WR become a hidden gem, the NCAA.

This is one of my favorite videos of DeVier. Big body, physical, like his body lean in & out of breaks along with excellent use of hands this is how you create separation throughout route tree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4cabr5OT7o
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With the exception of that first catch, the other plays I saw on that clip he'd get called for offensive pass interference every time. Too much hand fighting early in the play and at the end of the play just before the ball gets there, IMO.

But yeah...he really drives out of the snap and has crisp footwork from start to finish.
 
There are speed limit signs posted, and I doubt any of you have NEVER went over the speed limit.

Turn signal, most people I see don't even know what that is.

Ever tried to beat a yellow light and it turned red while you were still in the intersection?

Ever posted on TT while you were at work? How does your boss feel about that?

Also, that little tag on the mattress, how many of you still have it on there?


Take the plank out of your own eye, as it were.

Bunch of "Rule breakers" with "character flaws". The LOT of you!! :kitten:
 
Ok, enough already with the whole "is what he did really TRULY bad character or not" angle.

All I care about is this: Is a player's mindset in the right place? Is he a guy who just shows up and gets his work done...or does he brainfart and engage in shenanigans (no matter how trivial it might be to some people) that cause him to be scrutinized in negative ways?

The Arian Foster tweet-a-thon saga last Aug/Sept is an example of that. Is what the guy does GOOD overall or is it a distraction?

Missing 10 games of your senior season is NOT a good thing, overall, in terms of being able to judge his 2011 season against prior years of play. Plus, is it an indication that he gets distracted and drifts from the main objective of being a great football player? Will this guy miss meetings because he runs some side business on the side? Will his mind be on the underground Pokemon games he's organizing in vacant warehouses throughout the Houston area? It's something I want to know. Will this guy be 100% all about the game, or will he brain fart and love others things (like tattoos or selling vacation packages, etc.).

I think it's a fair question. Is this a guy who works angles all the time?
 
GP said:
Ok, enough already with the whole "is what he did really TRULY bad character or not" angle.

All I care about is this: Is a player's mindset in the right place? Is he a guy who just shows up and gets his work done...or does he brainfart and engage in shenanigans (no matter how trivial it might be to some people) that cause him to be scrutinized in negative ways?

The Arian Foster tweet-a-thon saga last Aug/Sept is an example of that. Is what the guy does GOOD overall or is it a distraction?

Missing 10 games of your senior season is NOT a good thing, overall, in terms of being able to judge his 2011 season against prior years of play. Plus, is it an indication that he gets distracted and drifts from the main objective of being a great football player? Will this guy miss meetings because he runs some side business on the side? Will his mind be on the underground Pokemon games he's organizing in vacant warehouses throughout the Houston area? It's something I want to know. Will this guy be 100% all about the game, or will he brain fart and love others things (like tattoos or selling vacation packages, etc.).

I think it's a fair question. Is this a guy who works angles all the time?
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Let me put it this way, this is a guy who was suspended for 10 games and still showed up for all the meetings and practiced just as if he was playing. He's a guy who did anything he could to help the team win and not be a distraction.

At least, that's what I've heard several people say.

And that's why this whole "rulebreaking" thing becomes a non-issue.
 
GP said:
Ok, enough already with the whole "is what he did really TRULY bad character or not" angle.

All I care about is this: Is a player's mindset in the right place? Is he a guy who just shows up and gets his work done...or does he brainfart and engage in shenanigans (no matter how trivial it might be to some people) that cause him to be scrutinized in negative ways?

The Arian Foster tweet-a-thon saga last Aug/Sept is an example of that. Is what the guy does GOOD overall or is it a distraction?

Missing 10 games of your senior season is NOT a good thing, overall, in terms of being able to judge his 2011 season against prior years of play. Plus, is it an indication that he gets distracted and drifts from the main objective of being a great football player? Will this guy miss meetings because he runs some side business on the side? Will his mind be on the underground Pokemon games he's organizing in vacant warehouses throughout the Houston area? It's something I want to know. Will this guy be 100% all about the game, or will he brain fart and love others things (like tattoos or selling vacation packages, etc.).

I think it's a fair question. Is this a guy who works angles all the time?
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He's human, so no he's not going to be 100% football all the time.

I don't see what's wrong with guys having other passions. As long as it doesn't distract them from performing when they are at work then I don't see what the problem is.

I haven't seen anything that suggests that he isn't commited to the game of football. As a matter fact I heard on the radio that some from the coaching staff were saying that passion was the theme for this draft. They wanted to get guys that were passionate about football.
 
How does a big time weapon @ WR become a hidden gem, the NCAA.

This is one of my favorite videos of DeVier. Big body, physical, like his body lean in & out of breaks along with excellent use of hands this is how you create separation throughout route tree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4cabr5OT7o
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With the exception of that first catch, the other plays I saw on that clip he'd get called for offensive pass interference every time. Too much hand fighting early in the play and at the end of the play just before the ball gets there, IMO.
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I'll give you the third play (barely...i'm 50/50 on it) , but the 2nd play is a prime example of almost every encounter between a WR and DB in that situation, and most are no-calls... DB puts hand on shoulder, WR slaps it away, DB taps, WR taps back... That is rarely called and if so earns a "Baad caallll... come on, Ref, let the boys play" from the color guy...
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Let me put it this way, this is a guy who was suspended for 10 games and still showed up for all the meetings and practiced just as if he was playing. He's a guy who did anything he could to help the team win and not be a distraction.

At least, that's what I've heard several people say.

And that's why this whole "rulebreaking" thing becomes a non-issue.
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And finished off his degree at the same time.
 
GP said:
Ok, enough already with the whole "is what he did really TRULY bad character or not" angle.

All I care about is this: Is a player's mindset in the right place? Is he a guy who just shows up and gets his work done...or does he brainfart and engage in shenanigans (no matter how trivial it might be to some people) that cause him to be scrutinized in negative ways?

The Arian Foster tweet-a-thon saga last Aug/Sept is an example of that. Is what the guy does GOOD overall or is it a distraction?

Missing 10 games of your senior season is NOT a good thing, overall, in terms of being able to judge his 2011 season against prior years of play. Plus, is it an indication that he gets distracted and drifts from the main objective of being a great football player? Will this guy miss meetings because he runs some side business on the side? Will his mind be on the underground Pokemon games he's organizing in vacant warehouses throughout the Houston area? It's something I want to know. Will this guy be 100% all about the game, or will he brain fart and love others things (like tattoos or selling vacation packages, etc.).

I think it's a fair question. Is this a guy who works angles all the time?
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I see it this way. First time he sold his stuff to get help keep his mom's lights on and get a discount on tattoos as well. I don't see anything wrong with that regardless of whether or not it's against NCAA rules or not. If I need to sell a ring to help out my parents with their bills, that ring is gone, to hell with NCAA rules. College football is a couple of years of his life. Commitment to family runs deeper. 2nd suspension was not even his fault. They provided proper legal paperwork, NCAA simply ignored it.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Let me put it this way, this is a guy who was suspended for 10 games and still showed up for all the meetings and practiced just as if he was playing. He's a guy who did anything he could to help the team win and not be a distraction.

At least, that's what I've heard several people say.

And that's why this whole "rulebreaking" thing becomes a non-issue.
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Exactly and what the Texans were saying also
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Let me put it this way, this is a guy who was suspended for 10 games and still showed up for all the meetings and practiced just as if he was playing. He's a guy who did anything he could to help the team win and not be a distraction.

At least, that's what I've heard several people say.

And that's why this whole "rulebreaking" thing becomes a non-issue.
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Rey said:
He's human, so no he's not going to be 100% football all the time.

I don't see what's wrong with guys having other passions. As long as it doesn't distract them from performing when they are at work then I don't see what the problem is.

I haven't seen anything that suggests that he isn't commited to the game of football. As a matter fact I heard on the radio that some from the coaching staff were saying that passion was the theme for this draft. They wanted to get guys that were passionate about football.
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chenjy9 said:
I see it this way. First time he sold his stuff to get help keep his mom's lights on and get a discount on tattoos as well. I don't see anything wrong with that regardless of whether or not it's against NCAA rules or not. If I need to sell a ring to help out my parents with their bills, that ring is gone, to hell with NCAA rules. College football is a couple of years of his life. Commitment to family runs deeper. 2nd suspension was not even his fault. They provided proper legal paperwork, NCAA simply ignored it.
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I'm just saying that I am not a "ends justify the means" type of guy. If you tweak your decision making for x, then you will change your decision making when situation y rolls around. And then situation x, too.

I will admit that the Texans did their homework, and I don't know what the Texans know...so therefore, they must feel pretty confident that he's contrite and the problems he had were not indicative of future problems he'd have in the NFL with any team he'd be playing for.

I just have 3rd round WRs (under Kubiak's era) on such a short leash due to the majorly long, drawn-out saga of Jacoby Jones that just ended this week. I was pretty harsh about Matt Schaub's first two years, as well, due to the David Carr saga as well. I just want this WR stuff to get settled and for our offense to be truly elite and not just all about what our TE and Arian Foster can do for us.

2012 has to be better than 2011. The QB play has to be better, the WR play has to be more dynamic and high-octane, everything has to be better. I am guilty of thinking Posey is not a WR2 and maybe barely a WR3 as it stands today. My opinion/stance is softening a little, so I want people to know I'm not dead-set against him...just apprehensive in terms of crowning the guy yet.
 
GP said:
I'm just saying that I am not a "ends justify the means" type of guy. If you tweak your decision making for x, then you will change your decision making when situation y rolls around. And then situation x, too.

I will admit that the Texans did their homework, and I don't know what the Texans know...so therefore, they must feel pretty confident that he's contrite and the problems he had were not indicative of future problems he'd have in the NFL with any team he'd be playing for.

I just have 3rd round WRs (under Kubiak's era) on such a short leash due to the majorly long, drawn-out saga of Jacoby Jones that just ended this week. I was pretty harsh about Matt Schaub's first two years, as well, due to the David Carr saga as well. I just want this WR stuff to get settled and for our offense to be truly elite and not just all about what our TE and Arian Foster can do for us.

2012 has to be better than 2011. The QB play has to be better, the WR play has to be more dynamic and high-octane, everything has to be better. I am guilty of thinking Posey is not a WR2 and maybe barely a WR3 as it stands today. My opinion/stance is softening a little, so I want people to know I'm not dead-set against him...just apprehensive in terms of crowning the guy yet.
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I can definitely see where you are coming from. I see the world as more shades of grey and therefore a more "flexible" set or moral guidelines I suspect. Either way, after the JJ fiasco I can definitely understand your wariness at this unanticipated pick. I promise you though, he is a smart and effective player. He may not be quite the physical specimen, but he definitely knows how to play his strengths a lot better. I can also promise you Posey knows how to run in a forward direction. :jogger:
 
GP said:
With the exception of that first catch, the other plays I saw on that clip he'd get called for offensive pass interference every time. Too much hand fighting early in the play and at the end of the play just before the ball gets there, IMO.

But yeah...he really drives out of the snap and has crisp footwork from start to finish.
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Kinda reminded me of the 'ol days. I liked it, but your right GP, laundry city in the NFL.
 
drs23 said:
Kinda reminded me of the 'ol days. I liked it, but your right GP, laundry city in the NFL.
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Yep: That was the old days, but the refs these days are all over that stuff.

And we know how awful the officiating crews are these days. There is only a handful of crews who will let that stuff go and let them play. Most of them, and I'm talking about Hochuli and Triplett's crews at the top of that heap, they are FLAG HAPPY bastids.
 
chenjy9 said:
I can definitely see where you are coming from. I see the world as more shades of grey and therefore a more "flexible" set or moral guidelines I suspect. Either way, after the JJ fiasco I can definitely understand your wariness at this unanticipated pick. I promise you though, he is a smart and effective player. He may not be quite the physical specimen, but he definitely knows how to play his strengths a lot better. I can also promise you Posey knows how to run in a forward direction. :jogger:
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LOL. I can get used to seeing a WR run forward. JJ was so erratic, he's the only guy who could run 80 yards and gain 3 yards out of it.

I still cannot believe Kubiak and Marciano kept him out there returning punts in the Ravens playoff game after he muffed the one punt that cost us. I still to this day do not understand how "coach's loyalty" should extend THAT far to his players. It was a really big WTH? strategy to me.
 
GP said:
Yep: That was the old days, but the refs these days are all over that stuff.

And we know how awful the officiating crews are these days. There is only a handful of crews who will let that stuff go and let them play. Most of them, and I'm talking about Hochuli and Triplett's crews at the top of that heap, they are FLAG HAPPY bastids.
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Don't remind me. The crews we had against Oakland and the divisional round against Baltimore made me wanna puke.
 
Saw this. Thought it was relevant...
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Tressel says he was impressed with how Posey handled being suspended for all but the final three games of his senior season. Posey’s body of work in the previous three years was impressive enough he could have left school last fall and began preparing his mind and body for April’s NFL Draft.

But Posey remained in school and finished up his degree in communications. The consummate leader also stayed out on the football practice field with his teammates, working with the offensive scout team unit against the No.1 OSU defense while serving his suspension.

That certainly said a lot to Smith and Kubiak when they made their decision to draft Posey. It also meant a great deal to Tressel who by then was forced to watch from afar.

“He was playing scout team quarterback getting killed,” he said. “That’s because he’s a quality kid. He’s not going to run away from his hardships nor is he going to run away from a challenge.”
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After what I've read, seen, and heard I'm OK with the Posey pick.

But similarly I was OK with the Brandon Harris pick...

I hope they both work out and I hope Posey earns his way on the field more than Harris did his rookie year.
 
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TejasTom said:
But similarly I was OK with the Brandon Harris pick...

I hope they both work out and I hope Posey earns his way on the field more than Harris did his rookie year.
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After watching our secondary get blasted in 2010 & bringing in a new DB Coach & new DC, then only signing one quality corner in the off-season, I thought it would make sense to draft a talented CB on the first day. I had been eye-ball'n Harris as our 2nd round pick, got mad when they didn't draft him, then did a flip when we traded back into the second to snag him.

Remember also, I'm one of the guys who said Kareem played about as well as we should expect a rookie to play with the supporting cast around him.

But for Kareem to step up and show the improvement in his game that he did, that was a surprise. Same with Allen, 5 year vets generally don't get better, but he did. Same with Jjo. We had big expectations for him, but he played better than anytime in his career. & While Bryce McCain wasn't a lockdown corner, he was pretty damn close.

Now if they played & looked like they did in 2010 & Harris couldn't get on the field the way Molden couldn't get on the field, or Bennett, or Reeves in 2009... then I'd have questions.

Same thing with Posey. If Aj plays all 19 games in 2012 & KDub tries to get his money back & Lestar Jean looks like the good DeSean Jackson.. how do you expect Posey to get on the field? Kubiak plays his starters, regardless the score or situation.
 
Rey:

I really don't think posting Posey photos of him running track is the way to instill confidence around here on him being Jacoby's replacement.

I gave you imaginary neg rep for that. :foottap:
 
GP said:
Rey:

I really don't think posting Posey photos of him running track is the way to instill confidence around here on him being Jacoby's replacement.

I gave you imaginary neg rep for that. :foottap:
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Don't worry Rey, I just gave you imaginary positive rep to even it up :)
 
GP said:
LOL. I can get used to seeing a WR run forward. JJ was so erratic, he's the only guy who could run 80 yards and gain 3 yards out of it.

I still cannot believe Kubiak and Marciano kept him out there returning punts in the Ravens playoff game after he muffed the one punt that cost us. I still to this day do not understand how "coach's loyalty" should extend THAT far to his players. It was a really big WTH? strategy to me.
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At first, my gut reaction was to question that too.

But then I realized, we as Texans fans don't have a WHOLE lot of experience of post-season TEXAN football. We've gotten used to a lot of turn-over, a lot of fluidity in the lineup. If a RB fumbles, it's not unusual for Gary to bench them for a quarter.

But, in the playoffs, I think you have to go with the person who you've gone with in the season. To see a player make a mistake in a game with that much weight and overreact is the kind of thing that causes more mistakes.

It riled me up to see Jacoby still out there returning punts after his huge mistake and after his track record of unreliability. But in the playoffs, I think you don't mess with what got you there.
 
Gp, all star and bad boy, you guys filled me with imaginary laughter and if we ever meet I'll keep the imaginary beers flowing all night!

Lol, jk.

I could only spare one imaginary beer.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Saw this. Thought it was relevant...
Tressel on Posey.
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So I'm supposed to listen to a coach that tried to cover it up and lied to his employers? I am more concerned about the way Posey agreed to take his name off the party ad & then put it back on anyway. Seems like he is going to do what he wants rather be the "face adversity head on" guy the article states he is.
 
badboy said:
So I'm supposed to listen to a coach that tried to cover it up and lied to his employers? I am more concerned about the way Posey agreed to take his name off the party ad & then put it back on anyway. Seems like he is going to do what he wants rather be the "face adversity head on" guy the article states he is.
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I thought the same thing about tressel, but are you mixing posey and jones together?

Or did posey also do that?
 
Rey said:
Gp, all star and bad boy, you guys filled me with imaginary laughter and if we ever meet I'll keep the imaginary beers flowing all night!

Lol, jk.

I could only spare one imaginary beer.
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well don't mean to pick on you but if you'd give up that imaginary job.....
 
badboy said:
So I'm supposed to listen to a coach that tried to cover it up and lied to his employers? I am more concerned about the way Posey agreed to take his name off the party ad & then put it back on anyway. Seems like he is going to do what he wants rather be the "face adversity head on" guy the article states he is.
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I believe you're confusing Devier Posey with Dwight Jones.
 
The more I watch of Posey the more I'm encouraged. He runs really smooth and crisp routes. That bodes well in the type of offense we run. The key to him adjusting is going to be his football IQ. Everyone can kind of agree that Jacoby just fell flat in this area. I can see him being on the field as WR2 about midway of the season.

It really stinks how the new CBA limits the amount of workouts and camps in the off-season so I'm curious to see how the rookies adapt. It didn't seem to hurt many guys after last year's lockout though. Although I would like to add a guy like Braylon Edwards, I can see us going into the season with AJ, KW, and the kids.
 
badboy said:
So I'm supposed to listen to a coach that tried to cover it up and lied to his employers? I am more concerned about the way Posey agreed to take his name off the party ad & then put it back on anyway. Seems like he is going to do what he wants rather be the "face adversity head on" guy the article states he is.
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Like others have said, you're confusing Posey's "character" issues with Dwight Jones' character issues.

Posey is the guy who sold his own personal ring so his mother could keep her electricity on. He got 5 games for that. Then he worked his job and got paid the union rate. And he got 5 games for that because the union rate for the job was more than the NCAA allowed.

And during those 10 games, he played the scout team QB and continued to work with the team.
 
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