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2025 Draft Prospects

KoolAid Sipper said:
I don't wanna...with our roster, at least 3 of the OL positions (LT, LG, RG) should be up for competition with no starter named yet.
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I no wanna either. Nick's restructure of Tytus's contract says he's here for 2025 and no significant savings if he can find trade partner. I see him getting his future LT/now LG day 2 or in 2026. It is fun to mock what we think we should do but more difficult to mock what we think Nick is going to do.
 
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KoolAid Sipper said:
I don't wanna...with our roster, at least 3 of the OL positions (LT, LG, RG) should be up for competition with no starter named yet.
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I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered a few people say that he actually performed okay at LG at the end of the season. I don’t have the stats because I don’t pay for PFF, so I could be mixing things up.

I do agree that there should be a lot of competition on OL though.
 
TexansFan15 said:
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I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered a few people say that he actually performed okay at LG at the end of the season. I don’t have the stats because I don’t pay for PFF, so I could be mixing things up.

I do agree that there should be a lot of competition on OL though.
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Stunts over the left side were never really stopped all season long.
 
Errant Hothy said:
Small write up on Simmons, if true doesn't sound like a player Ryans or Caserio would want

https://twitter.com/x/status/1904871967926124929
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I didn't see any of this stuff. Dont know about the off field stuff. If healthy he's a top 10 pick and probably would go to the Pats at 1-4. Seems like this teams spreading rumors to get Simmons to fall to the bottom of the 1st rd. Could that team be the Texans? Chiefs? etc...
 
Steve Smith thinks he found a hidden gem. I can't find Skinner on any draft boards; probably a 7th rounder at best. Summary: he's got good size, good balance, high points the ball well. Needs time to develop. Has some Dez Bryant in him:

 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This short work out clip shows nothing regarding his patellar tendon repair. Problems become evident when 250-300 lb players are constantly providing resistance during those maneuvers. His postsurgical prognosis for being able to attain "elite" performance is low, as is his chance for a long career
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Am I reading this right in that it’s more a loss of strength rather than explosiveness?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This short work out clip shows nothing regarding his patellar tendon repair. Problems become evident when 250-300 lb players are constantly providing resistance during those maneuvers. His postsurgical prognosis for being able to attain "elite" performance is low, as is his chance for a long career
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Yeah, i’m fine with the vet bandaid this year at LT if Banks isn’t their LT target. Plenty of guard prospects with a cleaner medical profile that also don’t have rumors about off-field issue (bad interviews at combine?). Get a guard if you have to, don’t force a LT pick.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Yeah, i’m fine with the vet bandaid this year at LT if Banks isn’t their LT target. Plenty of guard prospects with a cleaner medical profile that also don’t have rumors about off-field issue (bad interviews at combine?). Get a guard if you have to, don’t force a LT pick.
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I would be okay with an OT but not Simmons. We already have 2OT with patellar injury history
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Thank you! I wish him well for another team. The team gambled once and seems to have won with Stingley but don't press your luck!
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Posters that want Simmons to be drafted at 1-25 are probably the same posters that think Howard is actually an above avg player. If Simmons is drafted I would expect him to be avg at best. Give me a healthy Golden/Taylor etc.. over the chance that Simmons can stay healthy and be able to play well.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
When you lose strength, you lose explosiveness.
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I get that on a fundamental level, but here's what I'm getting at.

Marc-Andre ter Stegen, goalie for Barcelona and the German national team, ruptured his patellar tendon late last September. Last Wednesday it was reported he is making a return to training and looks every bit as explosive and acrobatic as he was before the injury. Soccer media, especially in Spain, is one part truth and one part propaganda so take the reports with a grain of salt; but nobody is suggesting that the injury will have a long-term effect on his career.

So is it the repeated contact and load bearing nature of OL that makes Simmons' long-term prognosis different than Stegen's?
 
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Errant Hothy said:
I get that on a fundamental level, but here's what I'm getting at.

Marc-Andre ter Stegen, goalie for Barcelona and the German national team, ruptured his patellar tendon late last September. Last Wednesday it's was reported he is making a return to training and looks every bit as explosive and acrobatic as he was before the injury. Soccer media, especially in Spain, is one part truth and one part propaganda so take the reports with a grain of salt; but nobody is suggesting that the injury will have a long-term effect on his career.

So is it the repeated contact and load bearing nature of OL that makes Simmons' long-term prognosis different than Stegen's?
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Quite so. Studies consistently have shown that of all sports, football athletes had the lowest return to sport rate overall, had the worst postoperative outcome, and demonstrated the greatest decrease in career lengths.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Quite so. Studies consistently have shown that of all sports, football athletes had the lowest return to sport rate overall, had the worst postoperative outcome, and demonstrated the greatest decrease in career lengths.
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Interesting as I would have thought it would have been NBA players.
 
I have been watching videos on this kid seeing he keeps showing up in mocks as a 3rd or 5th round pick (to us). And while he is not amazingly fast, he is good at everything else pretty much. At 6' 5 and 250lbs he has size and can and will block. He has a basketball background and is good at boxing out DBs to snag passes. Great awareness and holds onto the ball...2 fumbles in college period!

Thoughts on Helm

www.nfldraftbuzz.com

Gunnar Helm Tight End Texas | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report

Rating: 84.5 Rank: #6 Forty: 4.84 Helm is a tight end ready to contribute in the passing game from day one while possessing the framework to develop into a complete player. His basketball ...
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OptimisticTexan said:
I’d sure like to see TE- Mason Taylor (LSU) in a Texans jersey come Day 2 of the draft.
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If Caserio wants Taylor he better pick him at 1-25, because he wont be there at 1-25. Let me give you an Alternative draft.

Texans trade 1-25 for Pats 2-33 and 4-128 and a 2026 3rd you probably could get more. Why do the Pats want to trade up? They want to draft Josh Simmons who has fallen to 1-25 and want to jump ahead the Chiefs. Texans picks

2-33 Darius Alexander DT Toledo
2-58 Kyle Williams WR Washington St,
3. Tate Ratlege OG Georgia
3.Thomas Fidone TE Nebraska
4. Jacory Croskey- Merritt RB Arizona
5. Robert Longerbeam CB Rutgers

I believe this is reasonable and could happen. Plus Caserio would have in 2026 1st/two 2nds/ three 3rds for Caserio to work with.
 
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TheRealJoker V2 said:
Thoughts?

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Kelvin Banks at #31?

Banks is a thick, sturdy left tackle. In pass protection, he launches out of his stance and shows the ability to sink and bend his knees. He keeps his hands inside and is patient with his punch. When he struggles, it’s because he sets up too deep or his feet settle too early. Both of those areas can be cleaned up. In the run game, he has initial knock-back power, but he doesn’t always strain to drive/finish. He is nimble to adjust and pick off defenders at the second level and on the perimeter. Some teams see him as more of a guard, but I believe he can hold up at tackle. Overall, Banks has some things to clean up, but I like his core foundation of strength/agility.
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Jeremiah is pretty clued in. He had Banks at #19 in his 1.0 rankings. Banks has slid each iteration.

Banks ranking
1.0 - 19
2.0 - 24
3.0 - 29
4.0 - 31

Other internet scouts have Banks higher. I think this ranking is the floor. But this gives me hope that Banks could get to 1.25 or at least a spot the Texans could reasonably move up for Banks.
 
I personally would not move up for Banks, but if he is there at 25, I’m certainly highly interested…depends on who else is there, as always. I think he is a good to very good…but not great prospect. I also don’t know if they see him as a guard or tackle. I suspect if we do draft him, he starts at G and then possibly moves to LT next year.
 
Porky said:
I personally would not move up for Banks, but if he is there at 25, I’m certainly highly interested…depends on who else is there, as always. I think he is a good to very good…but not great prospect. I also don’t know if they see him as a guard or tackle. I suspect if we do draft him, he starts at G and then possibly moves to LT next year.
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FWIW, Todd McShay, another one draft guy who leans heavily league contacts has Banks exactly at 25
 
Porky said:
I personally would not move up for Banks, but if he is there at 25, I’m certainly highly interested…depends on who else is there, as always. I think he is a good to very good…but not great prospect. I also don’t know if they see him as a guard or tackle. I suspect if we do draft him, he starts at G and then possibly moves to LT next year.
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I really like Banks, but if Donovan Jackson was also available it would be a tough choice
 
steelbtexan said:
He's more athletic than I thought he is. Still not a good blocker. He's got tools to develop into a more athletic OD. He's not a bad player. 4th rd IMHO.
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Gunnar Helm, TE, Texas​

Top 150 Rank: 91
Position Rank: 7
NFL Comp: Jake Ferguson, Cowboys
Helm injured his ankle running his 40 at the combine, but we can throw out the numbers for this comp. Helm reminds me of Jake Ferguson because of their underwhelming measurables, and I think both are better football players than testers. Ferguson was a fourth-round pick in 2022 but has become a reliable and productive NFL tight end. Helm, like Ferguson, knows how to get open and create after the catch. He projects as a tight end 2 as a rookie with starting potential if he can become stronger and better as a blocker.
 
Lucky said:
Kelvin Banks at #31?



Jeremiah is pretty clued in. He had Banks at #19 in his 1.0 rankings. Banks has slid each iteration.

Banks ranking
1.0 - 19
2.0 - 24
3.0 - 29
4.0 - 31

Other internet scouts have Banks higher. I think this ranking is the floor. But this gives me hope that Banks could get to 1.25 or at least a spot the Texans could reasonably move up for Banks.
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Daniel Jeremiah is a really good source.
 
Thoughts on Xavier Restrepo? I like that he's very smart, quick, and doesn't go down easily. That 40 time is pretty concerning though.
 
BullRushTX said:
Thoughts on Xavier Restrepo? I like that he's very smart, quick, and doesn't go down easily. That 40 time is pretty concerning though.
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Restrepo is just about the perfect example of a slot receiver. He is never been known to be 40-yard dash fast but he knows how to anchor down and also to pick spots where the quarterback can see him and check down. He is an extremely good pass catcher. He is a slot only.
 
JB said:
I really like Banks, but if Donovan Jackson was also available it would be a tough choice
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I’m taking Jackson b/c he’s a stud at LG and took on LT for the Buckeyes Championship run.

As I followed the Longhorns down the stretch, I wasn’t ultra impressed with their OL. Sacks and pressure was fairly consistent….running game didn’t help to offset defenses amping up the pass rush. So I’m not sure how they’ll perform as individuals, but as a unit they looked a bit like the Texans. Good enough to get you there, bad enough to get you exposed.
 
SnakeEyes said:
Just saw a new mock that covers some stats and information about WR and OL.

texanswire.usatoday.com

NFL Draft: Texans make two bold but promising offensive picks in ESPN's new two-round mock

In Field Yates' newest mock draft, the Houston Texans add a do-it-all offensive lineman and a rising star at wide receiver to shore up the offense.
texanswire.usatoday.com
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The only issue I have with Donovan Jackson is we still have to go get a left tackle in 2026. Yes I followed him last season but he is not the answer long run in my opinion. He would be a great left guard but we have Howard filling that. As I said recently, Nick's plan may be to trade Howard after June the 1st and if that's plan, I could see him drafting Jackson. I would still prefer to get a left tackle for our future who could play left guard now. I do not want to get somebody and then move them all over the board in chess match.
 
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