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2024 Free Agency

AcresHomesTexan said:
Oh, it was close to desperation in terms of the market, but I don't get the sense that the Texans panicked and were able to move effectively when an opportunity became available. Mixon has been durable and consistently productive. Good on the field get. Not a fan of his past personal behavior, but I hope I am not held to my worst teenage moments forever
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Here’s his numbers compared to the 12 million dollar a year for the next three years guy. Give me Mixon all day everyday for what we’ll be paying him. And we’ve all made mistakes before indeed. But people can not call us the N word like that either.

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sprtsfanatic said:
the mixon trade WREAKS OF DESPERATION. Talk about a disappointing FA period so far...Two decent players, the rest are ST, depth, and scrubs...and now with mixon Caserio is just grasping at straws since he allowed all the good backs to be had by other teams b/c he wanted to pinch pennies.
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You might want to go checkout his stats. He's pretty good and he put up those stats without Burrow for half the year.
 
Hervoyel said:
Glad it wasn't us on signing Henry. He looked spent last year to me. I doubt he ends up being worth half what the Ravens paid to get him.
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I agree. I know he was a great back for the cosplay Oilers but the guy is not a cut and go kind of RB. He is a downhill runner and not a good fit in this offense.


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Hervoyel said:
Glad it wasn't us on signing Henry. He looked spent last year to me. I doubt he ends up being worth half what the Ravens paid to get him.
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Funny thing I noticed was that he looked spent when playing against the Texans but was putting up good numbers in other games from what I can tell.

The important thing I’m seeing in the deal they went for is that they didn’t want to commit to a multi year deal, they may ink Mixon to a deal and prove me wrong, but they preferred to commit £6m 1 year for Mixon vs the multi year deal Devin agreed for a smidge less average.

They want to be free to go BPA in the draft, but also want to get a RB in the draft and give him a vet to split with and learn from that they can move on from if possible. This also leaves them open to DP coming good in the scheme which would also be a boon.
 
welsh texan said:
Funny thing I noticed was that he looked spent when playing against the Texans but was putting up good numbers in other games from what I can tell.

The important thing I’m seeing in the deal they went for is that they didn’t want to commit to a multi year deal, they may ink Mixon to a deal and prove me wrong, but they preferred to commit £6m 1 year for Mixon vs the multi year deal Devin agreed for a smidge less average.

They want to be free to go BPA in the draft, but also want to get a RB in the draft and give him a vet to split with and learn from that they can move on from if possible. This also leaves them open to DP coming good in the scheme which would also be a boon.
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Precisely
 
Errant Hothy said:
Make up your mind. One-minute you're having a fit the FO isn't overpaying an RB, the next you're in a tizzy they may a pass rusher (an infinitely more valuable position).
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So you are telling me there is no difference in market value between positions??? Well glad you're not our GM...its being reported we lost out on Barkley by 4 mil...the drop off in talent between Barkley and Mixon is well worth 4 mil...his incentives can take that up obviously...but the DE market is a different animal. RB's are undervalued in today market and seems DE's are now demaning QB money...everyone knows there is only one position that makes QB money...thats the QB and for good reason....in your premise you would pay Tucker the fg kicker qb money b/c he's been the most accurate and best fg kicker for like a decade...
 
sprtsfanatic said:
So you are telling me there is no difference in market value between positions??? Well glad you're not our GM...its being reported we lost out on Barkley by 4 mil...the drop off in talent between Barkley and Mixon is well worth 4 mil...his incentives can take that up obviously...but the DE market is a different animal. RB's are undervalued in today market and seems DE's are now demaning QB money...everyone knows there is only one position that makes QB money...thats the QB and for good reason....in your premise you would pay Tucker the fg kicker qb money b/c he's been the most accurate and best fg kicker for like a decade...
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Or that premier edge (see any pass rusher including interior monsters) demands 25-32 million a year and that is because rushing the QB worth 50 million is the second most important and valuable and thus delivered salary in the league.
 
sprtsfanatic said:
So you are telling me there is no difference in market value between positions??? Well glad you're not our GM...its being reported we lost out on Barkley by 4 mil...the drop off in talent between Barkley and Mixon is well worth 4 mil...his incentives can take that up obviously...but the DE market is a different animal. RB's are undervalued in today market and seems DE's are now demaning QB money...everyone knows there is only one position that makes QB money...thats the QB and for good reason....in your premise you would pay Tucker the fg kicker qb money b/c he's been the most accurate and best fg kicker for like a decade...
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RBs in today's NFL have much less impact on winning than in the past. I don't love it, but it is simply true. Barkley is a great example. How much winning has he been apart of? Who are the great RBs leading championship teams: who were the stud RBs for each of KC's superbowls? What about for TB's last superbowl? Eagles? Bills? Baltimore?
 
sprtsfanatic said:
Not for 30mil/yr...thats QB money...he's freaking crazy if thats what he's seeking.
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Hunter is comparable to TJ Watt($28M) & Joey Bosa(27M) so not really out of line with the increases of salaries since they signed
sprtsfanatic said:
its being reported we lost out on Barkley by 4 mil.
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That's wrong... Barkley is getting $12M, Mixon cost $6M
 
JB said:
Hunter is comparable to TJ Watt($28M) & Joey Bosa(27M) so not really out of line with the increases of salaries since they signed

That's wrong... Barkley is getting $12M, Mixon cost $6M
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I wouldn’t hesistate paying Watt or Bosa 30 million - I do with Hunter. I think he is a clear tier below these elite guys.
That being said, there are a couple of positions I would pay premium money for: LT, pass rusher - maybe CB. So I would be fine with paying 25 million per year for Hunter, maybe a little more than that. But I don’t see him as valuable as these tier 1 players…
 
sprtsfanatic said:
So you are telling me there is no difference in market value between positions??? Well glad you're not our GM...its being reported we lost out on Barkley by 4 mil...the drop off in talent between Barkley and Mixon is well worth 4 mil...his incentives can take that up obviously...but the DE market is a different animal. RB's are undervalued in today market and seems DE's are now demaning QB money...everyone knows there is only one position that makes QB money...thats the QB and for good reason....in your premise you would pay Tucker the fg kicker qb money b/c he's been the most accurate and best fg kicker for like a decade...
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There is a massive difference between the market value of certain positions in today's NFL, and overpaying a RB might just be the stupidest thing a GM can do this week. I'd over pay an edge rusher 10 times out of 10 before I pverpaid an RB.
 
LikeMike said:
I wouldn’t hesistate paying Watt or Bosa 30 million - I do with Hunter. I think he is a clear tier below these elite guys.
That being said, there are a couple of positions I would pay premium money for: LT, pass rusher - maybe CB. So I would be fine with paying 25 million per year for Hunter, maybe a little more than that. But I don’t see him as valuable as these tier 1 players…
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Over the last two years, Hunter has better stats and more games played than both
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And unlike them, he didn't have anyone across from him
 
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LikeMike said:
Ah my bad, I meant Nick Bosa - and I’d still put Watt in front of Hunter. But fair, I wouldn’t be mad with 30 million but personally something like 25-27 would be my limit.
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Fair, yeah Nick Bosa is a different animal... and to think that leading up to the draft in 2019 I was ridiculed for saying that Nick would be better than his brother
 
Lucky said:
I'm just referring the overpay in regard to the market. Not the future performance, which is unknown.

Al Shaair is now the 8th highest off the ball LB in the league. The contracts that Luvu and Queen get will push Al Shaair down. But still top 10. Who thought he would be a top 10 paid LB at the start of free agency? I'm OK with an overpay to get the guy you want.
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Obviously DeMeco feels differently than you and valued/offered more for Shaair because that’s his guy, regardless how you rate him as a top 10 LB. I absolutely love this move. If not was willing to spend a 2nd rd pick on Texas A&M LB Edgerrin Cooper. Now Texans can address WR in that slot and add legit weapon for CJ. What’s the cost of that domino affect, will be on full display next season.
 
If you can get Hunter signed till the end of WAj and CJ’s rookie deals then the money is kind of unimportant, you have near QB money available to pay to an over the top player like that, and you have to see the Anderson rookie contract money plus the Hunter contract money as one in terms of your cap hit, and you’d better hope you are happy signing Anderson to that contract in 4 years time and replacing Hunter with a high draft rookie. The only other thing I’d ask Nick for is to find a way to get that deep center fielder signed up alongside Pitre as well, that gives me confidence that the D is improved even before draft night, and confidence that the O remains pretty stable with room to improve through experience and rookie additions.
 
JWLCASPER said:
Or that premier edge (see any pass rusher including interior monsters) demands 25-32 million a year and that is because rushing the QB worth 50 million is the second most important and valuable and thus delivered salary in the league.
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The offensive Taco [tackle.. TY smarter than me phone] blocking for that 50 million dollar quarterback is right there in the mix.
 
I don't think we're gonna be relying on Mixon so much.

Hopefully his character issues aren't a problem in a good environment here. Hope he doesn't have too much influence on any rookie RBs.

Catch a few balls, make a few blocks and that's it. He has a couple higher end games a year.
 
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