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Then please, give us Stroud's attempts, completions, sacks, TDs, INTs when under pressure for the 2021 and 2022 seasons. Please include how many of these passes where intentionally thrown out of bounds to avoid sacks. A game log of these numbers would be nice, so we can check them.
Not up for me to do your research. I already posted the video showing Stroud's pressure/non pressure numbers; not from two hacks from the internet but 2 credible and popular guys/analysts. Texian has posted as well. Go check it out.
Where is the evidence for his so called upside? Where is the evidence saying AR is going to get better at several of the things that he does Poorly such as accuracy? I am all for potential but there has to be a path for that potential to become factual on the field. Approximately one out of every two throws is an incompletion or interception. What do you see that will correct that? Is it his arm motion, release, holding on to the ball too long? or what I understand is his inability to read the field?
I'm not the one saying Stroud is horrible under pressure, quoting some number you have no clue where it came from.
Thats 63% completion and 13.7 yds per completion. Not bad.
No, you're the one questioning this despite the videos being posted several times on this forum. Do you think this is all being made up? Common man, get a grip. I posted again for you above. Please try doing some research on your own instead of creating FUD. It's out there.
🖐 see ya when you return. Wait.. before you go, you do know FA begins 15th?
Yeah CloakNNNdagger was incessantly negative on Stingley and Watson also! He has been incessantly... accurate.
If that video contains the numbers, what are they? I see nothing of the numbers I requested. How many attempts and completions did CJ Stroud have while under pressure?
Oh did not know that Wrangler.. I mean Levis and AR15 had subluxation in their throwing shoulder?
He said Watson would become a pervert? I missed that post, I guess.
Is he making it up also? Those numbers were presented in another video with 2 famous football analyst guys (I don't have the time to search for it, but it was made 4-6 weeks ago). The fact that you don't have them and/or unwilling to find them yourself doesn't make them not real. Sign up to PFF and research the data yourself. These numbers are real. And yes, for my understanding the sample size is relatively small because Stroud wasn't pressured all that often. Playing at Ohio State has benefits.
For all we know all teams will look on his medicals and pass on him. I would have recommended to Not throw at combine but at his pro day. I am not concerned about the combine. However he has delayed his pro day to a later date. That does concern me. His abilities to make all of the NFL passes plus his accuracy [arm talent] is part of consideration as 1st QB off the board.
Who knows? No one knows what numbers they are based upon. In fact, some of the examples the guy on the video gave had nothing to do with pressure. Stroud made a bad decision to not release the ball on one play, then ran himself into pressure. That was a bad decision. But it had nothing to do with pressure. Inevitably, it's an opinion based piece. Without real numbers like attempts, completions, etc., it's not enough to base an analysis on.
Are you a PFF subscriber?
My goodness, what is going on here?? That's PFF data he's using, which others have cited as well. There are statisticians that keep track of pressure/non-pressure passing stats in college and NFL, as well as a bunch of other things. What is so hard to understand?
It takes 3 to 4 months for an athlete to recover from labrum surgery. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't throw at the pro day. If he does throw, it could mean he doesn't have a tear or it could mean he's throwing in spite of the injury. Teams will have access to medical reports.
Wait.. there are other reasons to argue?
Texans took a CB with severe medicals and high re-injury risks. I and others don't read that Doc has Young in wheelchair, just saying watch out.
I knew that would get you going!
When did Young have labrum surgery so i can start a 3 to 4 month countdown? He delayed his pro day, why?
I've already commented on this. See posts #3218 and #3230.
I knew that would get you going!
How about an injured midget?
Those are not facts, it’s nothing but opinions. Y’all really need to stop trying to post stuff as facts. Here are the facts and I don’t give two nickels about the talent he had. Dude balled his butt off. Bump all that extra crap y’all talking about.
lol...look them up Mr. Staff Member.
Dude, he's just trolling you. If he really wanted the information, he would look it up himself.
LZ/Stroud (for future ref)
I'd like to see those - and for all the SEC QB's for that matter.
To my knowledge Bryce Young has had no surgery on his shoulder So no reason to look at either post..
To my knowledge there is no confirmed knowledge that Young's shoulder is not fine, but there certainly are plenty of posts assuming otherwise. It's all just speculation, so should we just drop this discussion until his pro day? Or the draft?
The facts does not change his stats Or how he played in college but those facts can indicate how he might perform in the future period and that's a fact jack!
If CloakNNNdagger said he has info that Young has subluxation, it is not speculation. If he was speculating , he would say so.
THIS FROM CNNND:-
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CnnnD's report was on Young's injury back in October. He has not reported any update, or on Young's current condition. And in fact, he reported the medical injuries Young suffered but not on the severity of those injuries. And also, he did not say with certainty that Young had a labrum tear, only that it was common with his other injuries.
Young's injury (for ref)
Young's injury (for ref)
I’ll be sad if the Colts trade up to 1 and take him.
Yep Significant prognostic implications makes me shudder.
