I don't think so either, but they did this mock
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2022 Simulator Mock Drafts
- Thread starter beerlover
- Start date
beerlover
Hall of Fame
- 3. Franchise Player
Kayvon Thibodeaux
EDGE Oregon
- 37. Rebuild OL inside out
Zion Johnson
OG Boston College
- 68. Continuity Day One
Alec Lindstrom
OC Boston College
- 80. Franchise RT
Daniel Faalele
OT Minnesota
- 130. Underrated does it all back
Sincere McCormick
RB UTSA
- 183. Have to address loss of Reid
Kolby Harvell-Peel
S Oklahoma State
- 202. Pound it inside tackles RB depth Hassan Haskins
RB Michigan
- 248. Simulator pick bpa
Justin Eboigbe
Edge Alabama
So, rebuild OL, keep Tunsil LT. Add not one but two quality RB’s later in the draft (value). Get the BPA in entire draft with potential to be great NFL player, must watch and see perform in person.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I did the same trade with the Eagles.
Eagles Get:
RD1-003
Texans Get:
RD1-015
RD1-019
DRAFT
RD1-015: OG- Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)
RD1-019: WR- Chris Olave (Ohio St)
RD2-037: OG- Zion Johnson (Boston College)
RD3-068: RB- Breece Hall (Iowa St)
RD3-080: LB- Chad Muma (Wyoming)
RD4-130: CB- Sevyn Banks (Ohio St)
RD6-183: DB- Bryan Cook (Cincinnati)
RD6-201: OL- Andrew Stueber (Michigan)
RD6-210: DE- Ochaun Mathis (TCU)
RD7-245: DB- Leon O’Neal, Jr (Texas A&M)
Offense would get healthy in a hurry. IOL help…check. Really fast WR…check. RB who can be a difference maker….check. Stueber could be an excellent talent to move to Center while taking a season under the tutelage of Britt.
Defense will get some useful pieces. Muma should finally give the defense a torpedo who excels at wrapping up his targets. Banks had a really off year which puts him at about this point in the draft….if the Texans get the 2019 version, this is the version that could’ve been a RD1 CB.
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Still 4 picks and FA left to address OL and CB
Ran the PFN draft sim today- no trades. I don't think the draft breaks down this way, but this would be an... interesting haul.
3. Kyle Hamilton, S Notre Dame
37. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
68. Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State
80. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota
130. Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
183. Tyreke Smith, Edge, Ohio State
202. Kyle Phillips, WR, UCLA
248. Abram Smith, RB/ST, Baylor
3. Kyle Hamilton, S Notre Dame
37. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
68. Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State
80. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota
130. Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
183. Tyreke Smith, Edge, Ohio State
202. Kyle Phillips, WR, UCLA
248. Abram Smith, RB/ST, Baylor
TexansFan15
All Pro
Not bad. Although I don’t know if Kinnard will fall to 68.
I would love this draft. Fixes the OL/Secondary
You must be higher on Thomas than I am.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
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TexansFan15
All Pro
I’ve seen him graded anywhere from the bottom of 1 to the 4th round. I consider him a 2-3. I guess drafting him at 37 would be a little high, but there weren’t other players I loved with this mock.
May be the best mock I've seen... Love it!
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Thank you sir,
Safety’s this level don’t come around often and Reid leaving opens up huge need.
Cross maybe best LT prospect in the draft. He was still there @ 17 so offered picks to trade up and they accepted (Charger board would be furious).
Marcus Jones is the best kick/punt returner in the nation plus a solid corner.
Tyler could be that bell cow back we’ve been missing since Foster.
Very good, starting capable as a rookie Center to groom with Mills.
The Texans have picks #37 & #68, not #35 & #67.
#17 = 950 points
#37 + #68 + #203 = 800 points
No team will trade down like that and lose points. A 2023 2nd would have to be thrown in, at minimum.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
PFF mistake, good catch. You get to make four offers before trade is canceled so why not start low then if you have to, throw more into the pot.
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OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I believe the point chart is a solid rule of thumb but in no way is it gospel. Texans are sitting on a very good pick at #3, and depending on how the draft falls may determine how desirable the pick becomes. I believe the Hutchinson and Neal would be the cogs if either are available when the Texans turn comes around could toss the trade value point chart out the window.
Also, if either Corral and Pickett really wow teams at the Combine and their Pro Day it could easily create a panic among the teams needing a QB and who’ll trade up the highest to ensure one of those guys is theirs. This situation would also put the Texans in a pretty nice situation.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I made a new Mock taking into consideration the Texans move to a WCO and ZBS. In this Mock I traded Watson to a QB hungry team, Denver Broncos. Also, I believe Watson would waive his NTC for the Broncos. One thing that could change this….is if Flores is hired as a HC and his new team is in need for a QB1.
RD1-003: SS- Kyle Hamilton (Notre Dame)
RD1-009* OC- Tyler Linderbaum (Iowa)
RD2-037: TE- Trey McBride (Colorado State)
RD2-041* DE- Jermaine Johnson (Florida State)
RD3-068: RB- Breece Hall (Iowa State)
RD3-080: RB- Rachaad White (Arizona State)
RD3-092* CB- Marcus Jones (Houston)
RD4-129: OL- Andrew Stueber (Michigan)
RD6-182: WR- Samori Toure (Nebraska)
RD6-202: CB- Sevyn Banks (Ohio State)
RD6-209: CB- Joshua Williams (Fayetteville State)
RD7-241: DB- Leon O’Neal, Jr (Texas A&M)
RD1: Hamilton is a plug-n-play defensive back who could easily play anywhere in backfield. A generational type of player that would help the Texans defense. Linderbaum could be a plug-n-play center in a ZBS and help gel this OL. He’s a ZBS prototype. He’s even got the football smarts to call out the protections to help Mills. Hamilton and Linderbaum would be a hail of a way to start the 2022 NFL Draft.
RD2: Trey McBride is a real do-it-all at TE and a guy that can do it at a high level. McBride could give the Texans a very Kielce type of TE for the WCO. McBride and Jordan could be an amazing TE duo. Jermaine Johnson (6-5 @ 264 lbs) should be an absolute monster in the 4-3 defense. I’m very certain that Smith will figure out how to deploy JJ 2.0 so he can really terrorize QB’s on passing downs. If the Texans could land McBride and Johnson in RD2….hold onto your hats b/c this draft would really be heading in the right direction.
RD3: The RB’s round. Landing Breece Hall and Rachaad White to go along with Rex Burkhead would breathe new air into a sour arse room. Hall and White are down hill runners that possess NFL size right now. Both have proven during their CFB careers that they are scoring machines. Both have proven that they are prolific receivers out of the backfield which makes them solid dual threats. Having Burkhead on board to help with their transition to the NFL will be invaluable. Marcus Jones will give the Texans a real threat in the return game with his damm near world class speed. Guy is a bullet who I see contributing potentially on both sides of the ball….as a zone CB and SWR. Again….getting Hall, White, and Jones in RD3 should have Texans fans pretty excited. Defense, OL, TE, and RB being addressed this early sure takes the pressure off what has to be accomplished in Rounds 4-7.
RD1-003: SS- Kyle Hamilton (Notre Dame)
RD1-009* OC- Tyler Linderbaum (Iowa)
RD2-037: TE- Trey McBride (Colorado State)
RD2-041* DE- Jermaine Johnson (Florida State)
RD3-068: RB- Breece Hall (Iowa State)
RD3-080: RB- Rachaad White (Arizona State)
RD3-092* CB- Marcus Jones (Houston)
RD4-129: OL- Andrew Stueber (Michigan)
RD6-182: WR- Samori Toure (Nebraska)
RD6-202: CB- Sevyn Banks (Ohio State)
RD6-209: CB- Joshua Williams (Fayetteville State)
RD7-241: DB- Leon O’Neal, Jr (Texas A&M)
RD1: Hamilton is a plug-n-play defensive back who could easily play anywhere in backfield. A generational type of player that would help the Texans defense. Linderbaum could be a plug-n-play center in a ZBS and help gel this OL. He’s a ZBS prototype. He’s even got the football smarts to call out the protections to help Mills. Hamilton and Linderbaum would be a hail of a way to start the 2022 NFL Draft.
RD2: Trey McBride is a real do-it-all at TE and a guy that can do it at a high level. McBride could give the Texans a very Kielce type of TE for the WCO. McBride and Jordan could be an amazing TE duo. Jermaine Johnson (6-5 @ 264 lbs) should be an absolute monster in the 4-3 defense. I’m very certain that Smith will figure out how to deploy JJ 2.0 so he can really terrorize QB’s on passing downs. If the Texans could land McBride and Johnson in RD2….hold onto your hats b/c this draft would really be heading in the right direction.
RD3: The RB’s round. Landing Breece Hall and Rachaad White to go along with Rex Burkhead would breathe new air into a sour arse room. Hall and White are down hill runners that possess NFL size right now. Both have proven during their CFB careers that they are scoring machines. Both have proven that they are prolific receivers out of the backfield which makes them solid dual threats. Having Burkhead on board to help with their transition to the NFL will be invaluable. Marcus Jones will give the Texans a real threat in the return game with his damm near world class speed. Guy is a bullet who I see contributing potentially on both sides of the ball….as a zone CB and SWR. Again….getting Hall, White, and Jones in RD3 should have Texans fans pretty excited. Defense, OL, TE, and RB being addressed this early sure takes the pressure off what has to be accomplished in Rounds 4-7.
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vtech9
All Pro
I just did another mock of rounds 1 thru 4. Here's what I ended up with.... (I had to take the obligatory TE)
- 12.
Tyler Linderbaum
OC Iowa
- 40.
Zion Johnson
OG Boston College
- 58.
Darian Kinnard
OT Kentucky
- 68.
George Pickens
WR Georgia
- 80.
Jake Ferguson
TE Wisconsin
- 105.
Bailey Zappe
QB Western Kentucky
- 112.
Sincere McCormick
RB UTSA
- 133.
Smoke Monday
S Auburn
- 2023 MIN 2nd
- 2023 CAR 2nd
- 2023 MIN 3rd
4 round mock focusing on improving the running game on both sides of the ball... 2 early trades, many passed up
- 10. Ikem Ekwonu OG/T North Carolina State
- 35. Chad Muma LB Wyoming
- 36. Drake Jackson EDGE USC
- 37. Zion Johnson OG Boston College
- 68. Tyler Allgeier RB BYU
- 80. John Metchie III WR Alabama
- 133. Haskell Garrett DT Ohio State
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Agree.
You don't draft a RT that high. You can get a decent one in the 2nd.
Plus he may not be suited at RT.
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Texansphan
Football connoisseur
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I’d love to be in a War Room one day as well…..in one hand roses and in the other, a stupid stick.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
A little bored, so I did another Mock using the “NFL Mock Draft Database” simulator. Trade backs were executed, Tunsil and Cooks were traded, and Watson was going nowhere until the 2023 NFL Draft. There were teams with high priority needs that I used to try and justify the trades. I’ll actually list the players selected by those teams in their slot to help justify the moves.
Giants Move Up To RD1-03 / Texans Gain: RD1-05 & RD2-37
Giants Select: LT- Evan Neal (Alabama) **Giants needed a LT in the worst way…especially if they are going to stick with Daniel Jones in 2022. This trade worked as expected.**
Falcons Move Up To RD1-05 / Texans Gain: RD1-08 & RD2-43
Falcons Select: DE- George Karlaftis (Purdue) **I figured the Falcons would be in the hunt for QB but not surprised by the Karlaftis pick since they need help on defense as well. This trade did not go as expected but understand the pick and need.**
WFT Move Up To RD1-08 / Texans Gain: RD1-11 & RD2-42
WFT Select: QB- Kenny Pickett (Pittsburgh) **I figured the WFT would wait to see if a QB fail to them. They made the move and selected Pickett to take over as their QB. This trade worked as expected.**
Eagles Move Up To RD1-11 / Texans Gain: RD1-15 & RD1-19
Eagles Select: DE- David Ojabo (Michigan) **I figured the Eagles would like to shore their defense. They did this with the Ojabo pick. To show their direction, the Eagles still had their 16th pick and used it on LB- Devin Lloyd (Utah). This trade also works for both teams.**
LT- Tunsil was traded to the Steelers. They were in dire need of improved LT play. There wouldn’t be a better option available at RD1-20 than Tunsil regardless of who’s playing QB1 in 2022. / Texans Gain: RD1-20, RD3-84, and 2023 RD2.
WR- Cooks was traded to the Broncos. The Broncos need answers at WR b/c Sutton nor Patrick are producing up to their salary. Broncos can clear some room and add a far more productive receiver in Cooks. The Broncos must be hoping Jeudy can hit his stride. The dropping of Sutton or Patrick would make room for Cooks. / Texans Gain: RD3-75 & RD5-143.
RD1-15: OG- Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)
RD1-19: OT- Trevor Penning (Northern Iowa)
RD1-20: CB- Kaiir Elam (Florida)
RD2-36: DB- Daxton Hill (Michigan)
RD2-37: DB- Deion Kendrick (Georgia)
RD2-42: TE- Trey McBride (Colorado State)
RD2-43: RB- Breece Hall (Iowa State)
RD3-68: OG- Andrew Stueber (Michigan)
RD3-75: OG- Cade Mays (Tennessee)
RD3-80: RB- Rachaad White (Arizona St)
RD3-84: OC- Alec Lindstrom (Boston College)
RD4-132: DB- Brad Hawkins (Michigan)
RD5-143: WR- Sonny Gray (SMU)
RD6-182: WR- Samori Toure (Nebraska)
RD6-204: DE- Tyree Johnson (Texas A&M)
RD6-206: DB- Joshua Williams (Fayetteville State)
RD7-241: DE- Big Cat Bryant (UCF)
Crazy? The Vikings had 15 picks in the 2020 NFL Draft. The Browns had 14 picks in the 2016 draft. Texans could be in a very good position to amass the picks needed to set the record b/c of their #3 pick, Tunsil, and Cooks.
Giants Move Up To RD1-03 / Texans Gain: RD1-05 & RD2-37
Giants Select: LT- Evan Neal (Alabama) **Giants needed a LT in the worst way…especially if they are going to stick with Daniel Jones in 2022. This trade worked as expected.**
Falcons Move Up To RD1-05 / Texans Gain: RD1-08 & RD2-43
Falcons Select: DE- George Karlaftis (Purdue) **I figured the Falcons would be in the hunt for QB but not surprised by the Karlaftis pick since they need help on defense as well. This trade did not go as expected but understand the pick and need.**
WFT Move Up To RD1-08 / Texans Gain: RD1-11 & RD2-42
WFT Select: QB- Kenny Pickett (Pittsburgh) **I figured the WFT would wait to see if a QB fail to them. They made the move and selected Pickett to take over as their QB. This trade worked as expected.**
Eagles Move Up To RD1-11 / Texans Gain: RD1-15 & RD1-19
Eagles Select: DE- David Ojabo (Michigan) **I figured the Eagles would like to shore their defense. They did this with the Ojabo pick. To show their direction, the Eagles still had their 16th pick and used it on LB- Devin Lloyd (Utah). This trade also works for both teams.**
LT- Tunsil was traded to the Steelers. They were in dire need of improved LT play. There wouldn’t be a better option available at RD1-20 than Tunsil regardless of who’s playing QB1 in 2022. / Texans Gain: RD1-20, RD3-84, and 2023 RD2.
WR- Cooks was traded to the Broncos. The Broncos need answers at WR b/c Sutton nor Patrick are producing up to their salary. Broncos can clear some room and add a far more productive receiver in Cooks. The Broncos must be hoping Jeudy can hit his stride. The dropping of Sutton or Patrick would make room for Cooks. / Texans Gain: RD3-75 & RD5-143.
RD1-15: OG- Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)
RD1-19: OT- Trevor Penning (Northern Iowa)
RD1-20: CB- Kaiir Elam (Florida)
RD2-36: DB- Daxton Hill (Michigan)
RD2-37: DB- Deion Kendrick (Georgia)
RD2-42: TE- Trey McBride (Colorado State)
RD2-43: RB- Breece Hall (Iowa State)
RD3-68: OG- Andrew Stueber (Michigan)
RD3-75: OG- Cade Mays (Tennessee)
RD3-80: RB- Rachaad White (Arizona St)
RD3-84: OC- Alec Lindstrom (Boston College)
RD4-132: DB- Brad Hawkins (Michigan)
RD5-143: WR- Sonny Gray (SMU)
RD6-182: WR- Samori Toure (Nebraska)
RD6-204: DE- Tyree Johnson (Texas A&M)
RD6-206: DB- Joshua Williams (Fayetteville State)
RD7-241: DE- Big Cat Bryant (UCF)
Crazy? The Vikings had 15 picks in the 2020 NFL Draft. The Browns had 14 picks in the 2016 draft. Texans could be in a very good position to amass the picks needed to set the record b/c of their #3 pick, Tunsil, and Cooks.
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beerlover
Hall of Fame
Done more simulations than I care to admit. If you use PFF change your settings to difficult, increase positional value compared to needs, use PFF board (not perfect) but grades prospects more fairly than media, and add in some randomness.
In my experience trade offers decrease or get more difficult (less return) and you start to figure out player stacking and teams boards. Would say only four players stand out as five star prospects. Stingley, Kayvon, Aiden and Hamilton. Then comes Tackle class, however you stack it, team fit, highest ceiling, character/work ethic. After which, here come the QB’s, ready or not (Sam Howell, Matt Corral, Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett just to name four) and you realize it’s just not probable Nick Caserio will return much for Watson. These rookie QB’s cost less, both in salary and draft capital with less baggage (just had to throw that dose of reality in).
After which to me, strongest groups are DE/DT, LB and DB’s. By trading down from #3 you lose out on one of the big four but you should gain back two extra quality starters at positions of need. Which I’m just guessing is Caserio style.
In my experience trade offers decrease or get more difficult (less return) and you start to figure out player stacking and teams boards. Would say only four players stand out as five star prospects. Stingley, Kayvon, Aiden and Hamilton. Then comes Tackle class, however you stack it, team fit, highest ceiling, character/work ethic. After which, here come the QB’s, ready or not (Sam Howell, Matt Corral, Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett just to name four) and you realize it’s just not probable Nick Caserio will return much for Watson. These rookie QB’s cost less, both in salary and draft capital with less baggage (just had to throw that dose of reality in).
After which to me, strongest groups are DE/DT, LB and DB’s. By trading down from #3 you lose out on one of the big four but you should gain back two extra quality starters at positions of need. Which I’m just guessing is Caserio style.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Caserio would be all over this. Like your moves and players but you know, it ain’t happening to this extent. First Neal isn’t worth the cost with several elite tackles on the board (Giants seem more like a classic LT candidate for Charles Cross) sit tight #5. Carolina takes Neal #6. Won’t get into trades, we have no idea. Again would love all these moves and your work
Slippery slope your climbing but fun to contemplate
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Caserio would be all over this. Like your moves and players but you know, it ain’t happening to this extent. First Neal isn’t worth the cost with several elite tackles on the board (Giants seem more like a classic LT candidate for Charles Cross) sit tight #5. Carolina takes Neal #6. Won’t get into trades, we have no idea. Again would love all these moves and your work
Slippery slope your climbing but fun to contemplate
All in fun but open to brainstorming. It wouldn’t be that crazy if Caserio learned how to manipulate a draft like Belichick.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Never been a fan of Belichick drafts. Post Caserio they actually hit homeruns on first two picks (Mac Jones/Christian Barmore). They struggle later rounds just like Texans have, last draft w/Caserio - 2020
2nd/37 Kyle Dugger, S
2nd/60 Josh Uche, LB
3rd/87 Anfernee Jennings, LB
3rd/91 Devin Asiasi, TE
3rd/101 Dalton Keene, TE
see I don't understand going back to back TE's after they signed the two top free agent TE's in Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry.
5th/159 Justin Rohrasser, K
6th/182 Michael Onwenu, G
6th/195 Justin Herron, T
6th/204 Cassh Maluia, LB
7th/230 Dustin Woodard, C
out of those only Dugger is starting SS, the rest 2nd/3rd teamers. I would be disappointed, and record reflects that, 2021 without Caserio marked a comeback.
I don't believe we can judge their drafts the same way we judge others.
You draft different when you have Brady. You can focus on things like culture & character more than football.
We can say their drafts weren't good during this period or that period, but they won a lot of games. They won multiple Super Bowls.
Once you move on from Brady you have to construct your team differently. You have to draft differently.
Just like we say Caserio is off base the way he is managing this team because we don't have Belichick, because we don't have Brady. We can't look at those drafts as if they didn't have Brady.
They won a lot of games. Can't do that, even with Brady without constructing your team well.
The TEs were drafted in 2020. A year prior to signing Henry and Smith.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
In response to that, New England before Belichick had sucked fo
Now, second part can attributed to that winning culture on top of excellent coaching. Premium free agents willing to take pay cuts for Super Bowl ring kept the Patriots @ or near the top talent wise. They didn’t HAVE TO HIT like rest of league on draft equity. So they had talent (via free agency mostly) excellent coaching and a winning culture.
Fast forward to today without Brady. Mac Jones was available (perfect fit for Patriots- can win from the pocket) while other teams foolishly passed for athleticism. He sized a window of opportunity and went contrary to the heard, that is Belichickian. I also find ironic how his assistants have struggled for different organizations as head coaches.
So judging them for what they were, what they are and what they will be is a fairly simple task, if you measure them all in historical context. There are a lot of teams/front offices who draft better but for numerous reasons (health/injury, coaching, culture, talent acquisition) fall short. Usually from meddling ownership, suit GM who is better manager than football genius, which is my big concern of Caserio.
In the beginning Belichick was assistant head coach for Patriots 1996-1999. Hired as head coach in 2000. Tom Brady was drafted 2000 to back up Drew Bledsoe, drafted #1 overall in 1993. He started with a solid nucleus including Willie McGinist, Ty Law, Teddy Bruschi, Lawyer Milloy, Terry Glenn, Kevin Faulk just to name a few. Other than drafting Brady in the 6th rd, nothing much to say first five rounds, nobody mentions that. Following Draft 2001 they did draft Richard Seymour, with Bookend DE’s in Belichick innovative 3-4 (ahead of his time) the Super Bowls started rolling in.
Now, second part can attributed to that winning culture on top of excellent coaching. Premium free agents willing to take pay cuts for Super Bowl ring kept the Patriots @ or near the top talent wise. They didn’t HAVE TO HIT like rest of league on draft equity. So they had talent (via free agency mostly) excellent coaching and a winning culture.
Fast forward to today without Brady. Mac Jones was available (perfect fit for Patriots- can win from the pocket) while other teams foolishly passed for athleticism. He sized a window of opportunity and went contrary to the heard, that is Belichickian. I also find ironic how his assistants have struggled for different organizations as head coaches.
So judging them for what they were, what they are and what they will be is a fairly simple task, if you measure them all in historical context. There are a lot of teams/front offices who draft better but for numerous reasons (health/injury, coaching, culture, talent acquisition) fall short. Usually from meddling ownership, suit GM who is better manager than football genius, which is my big concern of Caserio.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
So guess they didn’t pan out, Caserio last draft w/Patriots ? Make correction and over spend for two highest paid free agents? Tells me draft room not on the same page and there was division just like Gaine last and only draft as Texan GM w/Bill O’Brian.
You do if you're planning on moving him to LT in 2023. He's plenty suited and has played both RT/RG at a high level at Alabama. For such a huge man he's really a gifted athlete.
You must've been very bored.
I'm all for trading down, because I absolutely love Green as a prospect as well as Gardener and believe it or not Jameson Williams.
Onwenu made the all rookie team.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Guess he is highest PFF graded OL not starting, lol
What a great tool! Not sure how to set it to difficult but followed the rest of your recommendations... my first attempt
I think it unlikely but very possible that Green does slip...
OG going in the first is pretty rare... I couldn't believe when he did
beerlover
Hall of Fame
simply amazing how little respect the guard designation brings. I'm not so sure that Green couldn't kick out, he's that athletic. Make one hell of a RT I believe, might even stake my claim on him #17 to Chargers. Would be one hell of a battle but fun to dig in. There was a similar talent in last year's draft Alijah Vera-Tucker, who went #14 overall to the Jets, unfortunately tore his pec early on so basically a red shirt season. Green plays with lower pad level, not as smooth slide but makes it up with powerful core strength and explosive burst. really like Faalele for Texans either with or without Tunsil. Grade, positional value and need spot on late first to early second.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Actually, I’ve been a little surprised to see Kenyon Green (A&M) slipping down on simulators. Roughly 6 weeks back Green was within the top 10 picks and now it seems he’s going in the back 10 more often than not. Is this a simulator thing that is knocking him down or are there actual concerns from analyst about where they view him now?
Unlikey but very possible? Where did I put that sitting on the fence meme?
They're simulators. Guard is not a premium position, so that works against the algorithm.
Over the past 5 drafts, the top Guard has gone on average @ pick #22. I think Ekwonu will be drafted as an OT (though start out at OG), so Green will be the top Guard on the majority of draft boards. I think the Ravens @ #14 would be Green's ceiling, and the Cowboys @ #24 his floor.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
God please no, not the Cowboys #24
Zach Martin is still one of the best road graders I’ve ever seen (drafted 16th overall in 2014).
beerlover
Hall of Fame
simulators are based off couple things, board value (you can adjust which you use but are fluid per update) and user input, where players are selected online using tool. So are a reflection of collection of data points off public perception. I’ll bet QB’s will be moving up higher in mocks unless you bump down positional value.