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2020 TRAINING CAMP NOTES

badboy

Hall of Fame
What is murky about it?
You make a true statement "And Brady defines statue and has been relatively injury free " but as someone else mentioned, being a statue didn't keep him uninjured for most of his career games. His quick release, brilliant football mind and awareness and other things played roles. Not all QBs have those. On a side note I think #4 has clearly shown he has awareness around him when he dips, slips, and changes direction. I hope he will this season show more Brady qualities.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Brady got injured on what is now an illegal play he also avoids injuries because he gets rid of the ball. Watson takes a lot of unnecessary hits but holding the ball and looking for the home run pass on every dropback.
Watson got injured the same year he was 2nd in getting the ball out fast. Plus when your offensive line is changed out every year, receiver core except one getting injured often. I think it’s extremely hard to develop that type of chemistry. Thus the reason why Watson holds onto the ball longer now. Add in he fact that our HC/OC didn’t do him any justice.

But my point is Brady was very fortunate throughout his career. So players are lucky while others are not.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Watson got injured the same year he was 2nd in getting the ball out fast. Plus when your offensive line is changed out every year, receiver core except one getting injured often. I think it’s extremely hard to develop that type of chemistry. Thus the reason why Watson holds onto the ball longer now. Add in he fact that our HC/OC didn’t do him any justice.

But my point is Brady was very fortunate throughout his career. So players are lucky while others are not.
I think we can all agree we want and Watson should be better if others as well as he remains healthy.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Watson got injured the same year he was 2nd in getting the ball out fast. Plus when your offensive line is changed out every year, receiver core except one getting injured often. I think it’s extremely hard to develop that type of chemistry. Thus the reason why Watson holds onto the ball longer now. Add in he fact that our HC/OC didn’t do him any justice.

But my point is Brady was very fortunate throughout his career. So players are lucky while others are not.
Hopefully this is correct.

Brady trained 3 new groups of Wr's while in Foxboro. From Troy Brown, Ben Watson to Weller/Hernandez to Edelman/Gronk.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Brady's 2.23 sec time to throw in the tweet was from 2018..................last year, it was 2.75 secs.
Thus the reason he took a beating. Plus his receiver core kept getting changed out. This also led to him holding onto the ball longer than years past. What a world of difference when you and your receiver core being on the same sheet of music. The harmony is so beautiful.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
yes as article notes "a year ago"..before 2019 season. My point stands.
His markedly slower release in 2019 led to him being pressured at an increased rate compared to past years. He sustained injuries mid 2019 season which were not publicized much (the Belichik/Patriots way), after he was not able to release the ball quickly enough in an oncoming rush. The initial injury was to his shoulder, an injury that then led to reinjury, and later injury to his elbow several times under the same conditions...........i.e., his arm being hit in mid delivery. These injuries followed him throughout the remainder of the season. All this seemed to be lost in that its apparent effects were minimized by a 2019 Patriots' season blessed with a glaringly easy schedule. It will be interesting to see if this pattern is carried into the new season.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Texans’ Charles Omenihu craves steady diet of big plays
Aug. 31, 2020 Updated: Aug. 31, 2020 7:58 p.m.


Charles Omenihu hoisted plenty of heavy metal this summer and acquired a taste for broccoli, embracing the power of nutrition to transform his body.

The Texans’ second-year defensive end looks a lot different in his uniform now. He’s bigger and more powerful after building a lot of lean muscle following an offseason devoted to a stricter diet and exercise regimen.

Omenihu became more serious in his commitment to football, and it started in the kitchen. The former University of Texas standout even hired a personal chef, who traveled with him for his workouts in Austin and Dallas following his rookie season.

Because he has a tendency to get light during the season, the 6-5, 282-pound Rowlett native is sticking with a routine that works for him. He also enlisted the help of retired Pro Bowl pass rusher DeMarcus Ware to upgrade his repertoire of moves.

“What I did to gain weight was just really dedicate myself on my eating habits,” Omenihu said during a Zoom video call. “Just lifting hard, man. Understanding that I have a goal and I have to reach that goal. Guys are depending on me to be a certain kind of player.

“So that was in my mind every day I stepped in the weight room and every day I had a session with Ware for technique work. Then, just being on myself about my weight, because that’s something that I just have to be on steadily because it can drop. That’s what I was really focused on.”

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The Houston Texans' John McClain discusses the stark contrast in the Texans' offensive line entering this season from a year ago and where they need to improve the most this year.
Video: Houston Chronicle
Following an encouraging rookie season, Omenihu hopes to range between 280 and 285 pounds this season and not fluctuate as much as he did last year. It helps a lot that Omenihu enjoys the healthy, tasty meals his chef whips up.
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
Texans like Brent Qvale's toughness, versatiity
Aaron Wilson Sep. 1, 2020

Texans veteran offensive tackle Brent Qvale isn't flashy.

The 6-foot-7, 315-pound former New York Jets and Nebraska lineman is a hard-nosed blocker who's a certified strength and conditioning specialist.
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Toughness & versatility... only a matter of time BOB makes him a starter on the OL.
 

dream_team

Hall of Fame
Surprised you say that, Watson is constantly spoken of often during games by talking heads when he scrambles. What tempers comments is Dashaun's uncanny ability to move around while defenders take aim at him. Yeah that's fun to watch if your heart can handle it but not good for him or team in long run.

Schaub was injured because he couldn't maneuver much at all. That is no better. I want my QB remaining not only in the game but healthy.
I think we're debating over semantics. A QB being mobile or immobile doesn't necessarily make them more prone to injury. It's all about protecting your body on & off the field.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
His markedly slower release in 2019 led to him being pressured at an increased rate compared to past years. He sustained injuries mid 2019 season which were not publicized much (the Belichik/Patriots way), after he was not able to release the ball quickly enough in an oncoming rush. The initial injury was to his shoulder, an injury that then led to reinjury, and later injury to his elbow several times under the same conditions...........i.e., his arm being hit in mid delivery. These injuries followed him throughout the remainder of the season. All this seemed to be lost in that its apparent effects were minimized by a 2019 Patriots' season blessed with a glaringly easy schedule. It will be interesting to see if this pattern is carried into the new season.
very significant words, Doc!
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I think we're debating over semantics. A QB being mobile or immobile doesn't necessarily make them more prone to injury. It's all about protecting your body on & off the field.
Nope, not debating over semantics. I just disagree with you that the way Watson uses his mobility when he doesn't have to greatly increases his chance to get hurt. He doesn't do all he can to protect his body on the field. On to more exciting topics!
 

austins23

Hall of Fame
Brady got injured on what is now an illegal play he also avoids injuries because he gets rid of the ball.
His quick release, brilliant football mind and awareness and other things played roles
Brady is also one whiny mofo. Anytime he gets "brushed" up against he whines, gets the penalty, automatic first down, etc.
It's like the NFL wants this cat to play til he's 50.
 

theCATALYST

"Fake" Fan
Speaking of OTs, any reports on the progress of 2020 OT Draft pick Charlie Heck ?
The most recent info I can find is at this link Kelly talks Heck

How is T Charlie Heck adjusting with the transition to the NFL?
"Charlie is doing everything that we're asking him to do. He's putting in the time. Fortunately for him he's got some really good veterans in that room that are helping him develop. Even when he may not be getting a live rep, you can watch on film and Laremy (Tunsil) and Tytus (Howard) are back there working with him trying to teach him the tools of the trade, or tricks of the trade rather. Again, having those two guys kind of overseeing him, allowing Charlie to learn from their experiences has been really good for his growth."
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Speaking of OTs, any reports on the progress of 2020 OT Draft pick Charlie Heck ?
At present, the Texans have 7 OTs. The only 2 guaranteed a roster spot are Tunsil and Howard, although Heck as a 4th rnd draft pick is likely to be competitive as a swing. We haven't gotten much details over the performance of the OTs in general. It's truly difficult to come to many conclusions re. the OTs except for speculative, since there have been no intersquad or preseason games nor significant media feedback (as their presence during drills/practices have been restricted even more than in the past.)
 

IDEXAN

Hall of Fame
Contributor's Club
At present, the Texans have 7 OTs. The only 2 guaranteed a roster spot are Tunsil and Howard, although Heck as a 4th rnd draft pick is likely to be competitive as a swing. We haven't gotten much details over the performance of the OTs in general. It's truly difficult to come to many conclusions re. the OTs except for speculative, since there have been no intersquad or preseason games nor significant media feedback (as their presence during drills/practices have been restricted even more than in the past.)
Yea so whoever has been having a good or bad TC among the tackles and for that matter also the interior offensive linemen (guards/centers) is basically a big question mark I suppose at this point ?
So lots and lots of questions about personnel going into the season opener at Arrowhead.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Yea so whoever has been having a good or bad TC among the tackles and for that matter also the interior offensive linemen (guards/centers) is basically a big question mark I suppose at this point ?
So lots and lots of questions about personnel going into the season opener at Arrowhead.
No different than other teams.
 

Lucky

A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Staff member
It's truly difficult to come to many conclusions re. the OTs except for speculative, since there have been no intersquad or preseason games nor significant media feedback (as their presence during drills/practices have been restricted even more than in the past.)
I thought there was an intrasquad game at NRG last week?

As far as significant media feedback, this is still Houston. Possibly the home of the worst sports journalism in the country. We hear what the teams want us to hear. That’s why missing the preseason sucks, because we can’t make our own observations.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Yes sir and that's one of the reasons this season is gonna be very, very entertaining. Can't wait for the KO @ Arrowhead next week !
BTW are we still not planning on having fans @ the stadium for our home opener vs Baltimore ?
No fans in stands in Sept...........therefore, no to Baltimore game. The Texans say they will re-evaluate games after Sept. Their next home game is jnjot until Oct 4.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I thought there was an intrasquad game at NRG last week?

As far as significant media feedback, this is still Houston. Possibly the home of the worst sports journalism in the country. We hear what the teams want us to hear. That’s why missing the preseason sucks, because we can’t make our own observations.
I said intersquad. I don't feel intrasquad games reveal all that much more than 11 on 11 drills...........certainly no where close to even interquad games.

BTW, I agree with you regarding the bought and paid for Houston media.
 
Watson got injured the same year he was 2nd in getting the ball out fast. Plus when your offensive line is changed out every year, receiver core except one getting injured often. I think it’s extremely hard to develop that type of chemistry. Thus the reason why Watson holds onto the ball longer now. Add in he fact that our HC/OC didn’t do him any justice.

But my point is Brady was very fortunate throughout his career. Some players are lucky while others are not.
Corrected the So players part.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Tunsil definitely looks leaner.

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Texans view Laremy Tunsil as 'dominating' presence on O-line
Aaron Wilson Sep. 2, 2020

Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson (4) takes a snap as he runs a play behind running back David Johnson (31), guard Senio Kelemete (64) tackle Laremy Tunsil (78) and tight end Jordan Akins (88) during an NFL training camp football practice Thursday, Aug. 20, 2020, in Houston.

Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson (4) takes a snap as he runs a play behind running back David Johnson (31), guard Senio Kelemete (64) tackle Laremy Tunsil (78) and tight end Jordan Akins (88) during an NFL training camp football practice Thursday, Aug. 20, 2020, in Houston.
Photo: Brett Coomer, Staff photographer

The Texans' film sessions reveal a lot, showing the truth about what happened on the field.

For the Texans' offensive line, watching Pro Bowl left tackle Laremy Tunsil confirms what they already believed about his talent.

Months after signing a three-year, $66 million extension as part of an overall five-year, $76.35 million package with $50 million guaranteed, Tunsil is justifying the Texans' hefty investment in him.

As the first Texans offensive lineman to be named to the Pro Bowl since left tackle Duane Brown in 2014, Tunsil has made a lot of improvements to his game and body this offseason.

The 6-foot-5, 313-pound former first-round draft pick has taken his training to another level and is much more powerful and leaner after working out with Billy Voltaire for several months.

The Houston Texans' John McClain discusses the stark contrast in the Texans' offensive line entering this season from a year ago and where they need to improve the most this year. [WATCH MCCLAIN'S VIDEO IN THE LINK]

It shows on the field where Tunsil is quicker, more explosive and more certain of his movements.

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Lucky

A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Staff member
BTW, I agree with you regarding the bought and paid for Houston media.
It wasn't always this way. I don't knpw how long you've been in Houston, but we used to have 2 newspapers that competed. And the TV stations would also try to break stories. We had sportswriters fighting players and GMs that were pissed about what was printed. One would think with all of the competing media via the internet, we would have even more info. Sadly, not the case.
The Texans are scheduled for a 2nd intrasquad scrimmage this evening.

McClain: Five things to watch in Texans' scrimmage
John McClain Sep. 2, 2020
I would love to watch this. Yes, I'm a football junkie. But I'm not the only one.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
It wasn't always this way. I don't knpw how long you've been in Houston, but we used to have 2 newspapers that competed. And the TV stations would also try to break stories. We had sportswriters fighting players and GMs that were pissed about what was printed. One would think with all of the competing media via the internet, we would have even more info. Sadly, not the case.

I would love to watch this. Yes, I'm a football junkie. But I'm not the only one.
I remember when the Post gave the Chronicle a run for the money. It was a 94-year-old rivalry. Hearst shut the paper down strictly to eliminate any real local competition for media leadership, editorial views, and advertising dollars. I've often wondered how a city this big can have no more than 1 major paper.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
The Texans are holding out several players from their final scrimmage prior to a regular-season opener against the Super Bowl champion Chiefs.

That includes defensive end J.J. Watt, wide receivers Kenny Stills and Will Fuller and cornerbacks Gareon Conley, who had offseason ankle surgery, and Lonnie Johnson Jr., via a pool report.

Four injured players didn't participate, including: cornerback Phillip Gaines (ankle), fullback Cullen Gillaspia (hamstring), outside linebacker Jon Greenard (hamstring) and wide receiver Isaiah Coulter (neck).

Link

Probably the only peek at the scrimmage.
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CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Texans encouraged by P.J. Hall's progress
Aaron Wilson Sep. 2, 2020

When the Texans signed former Raiders second-round draft pick P.J. Hall, they wanted to give the former Sam Houston State standout time to get into better shape.

For the past few weeks, Hall has made a strong impression on the coaching staff with two good scrimmages.

Hall (6-1, 310 pounds) is the highest-drafted player in school history, a former All-American who recorded 42 career sacks, four interceptions, nine forced fumbles and 14 blocked kicks. However, he wasn't a fit with the Raiders and was cut this year after an attempted trade to the Vikings was nullified when he failed his physical.

A change of scenery has benefited Hall.

“P.J. had a good night," Texans coach and general manager Bill O'Brien said during a Zoom call Wednesday night after a scrimmage at NRG Stadium. "P.J. Hall, he's come in here, we've asked him to get in better condition. He's lost weight. He's shown up every day. He's worked hard in the weight room. He's trying to work hard on his diet.

"I thought he played well the last couple days, and I thought he played pretty well (Wednesday) from what I could see from the field level there. We'll continue to work with him and we'll see where it goes."

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Good news. But Hall needs to understand that his commitment to diet and weight training isn't a short-term commitment, like he has shown in the past.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Texans see a lot of growth from guard Max Scharping
Sep. 3, 2020

As a rookie last season, Texans left offensive guard Max Scharping gained a lot of knowledge and emerged as a reliable NFL starter.

A second-round draft pick from Northern Illinois, Scharping started 14 of 16 games for the AFC South champions.

After Scharping entered the starting lineup against the Los Angeles Chargers, he performed capably.

The Houston Chronicle's John McClain and Aaron Wilson share their takeaways from the Texans' intrasquad scrimmage, their only game-like preparation before next week's season opener at Kansas City.

The Texans are encouraged by Scharping's progress and positional flexibility, including his ability to play offensive tackle or center when needed.

"Max is definitely improved," Texans coach and general manager Bill O'Brien said Thursday during a Zoom video call. "I believe that experience, you can't replace it. You learn the speed of the game, the strength of the game and the things you need to get better at technique-wise. Max is so coachable.

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CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Texans' Keke Coutee has 'pretty good' scrimmage
Aaron Wilson Sep. 3, 2020


Texans wide receiver Keke Coutee had an encouraging scrimmage.

Especially considering that the former fourth-round draft pick is coming off of a minor stress fracture that sidelined him for a week of practice.

Texans coach and general manager Bill O'Brien indicated that Coutee was able to fully participate, including return duties and lining up at different receiver spots.

"Keke looked good," O'Brien said Thursday during a Zoom video call. "He was cutting off of his foot and doing some good things. He returned kicks. He played in the slot.

"He played on the outside. He ran reverses. He did a lot of different things. He looked pretty good."
 

kiwitexansfan

Hall of Fame
Texans' Keke Coutee has 'pretty good' scrimmage
Aaron Wilson Sep. 3, 2020


Texans wide receiver Keke Coutee had an encouraging scrimmage.

Especially considering that the former fourth-round draft pick is coming off of a minor stress fracture that sidelined him for a week of practice.

Texans coach and general manager Bill O'Brien indicated that Coutee was able to fully participate, including return duties and lining up at different receiver spots.

"Keke looked good," O'Brien said Thursday during a Zoom video call. "He was cutting off of his foot and doing some good things. He returned kicks. He played in the slot.

"He played on the outside. He ran reverses. He did a lot of different things. He looked pretty good."
glad to read this, needed a good showing as he’s on the bubble I’d guess and we could use his magic
 

Mr.Scarface

Waterboy
Despite this "uplifting" article, Martin has not passed my eye test. I do see him as the "rock" in the middle...........where we really need a "boulder" in the middle.

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Martin doesn't play in the Middle, he is an OLB/Pass rusher. We need him as a "Boulder" rolling downhill towards the QB!
 


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