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2019 Texans free agency

steelbtexan said:
Is it your $$$$?

You get what you pay for in life.
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Huh? What are you talking about? No its not my money and its not your money but there are still caps and limits teams have to adhere to so that its not just a case of who is the biggest billionaire. Also what exactly does any of that have to do with "You get what you pay for in life." by that thinking why wasn't the Blunder of OZ the greatest QB the Texans had ever had? We certainly paid him like he would be. You seem to think all the problems can be fixed if you just throw more money at it. Doesn't work in govt., doesn't work in football and doesn't work in life.
 
steelbtexan said:
After thinking about it over a craft beer, they will be fine but they need to do whatever it takes to get Williams or Dillard. They also should sign a cheap vet like Nsekhe since the org are definitely cheapass bastards.
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How about trading their 3rd for Packer reserve LT Jason Spriggs? He has only one year left on his rookie contract, and can't beat out Bakhtiari. If the Packers keep Spriggs though 2019, they will have to wait until 2021 to get a possible comp pick for him.
 
Texansphan said:
Think about it steel - Texans are going after Cajuste in a trade back!
They have already told us Henderson is their RT and they need a Lefty, and Cajuste will likely be there in the late 1st.
If Cajuste is off the board, they can still take Little.
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The problem with that statement is, that almost half of the 1st round O-Linemen drafted in the 1st round over the last 5 years have been out right busts.

Note that the reason Raiders paid so much for Trent Brown, is that in 2018 "The Raider's fix for their problem at LT for the next 10 years" was drafting "Kolton Miller" out of UCLA 15th in the 1st Round. He did not turn out to even be a one year fix. "Kolton Miller" was a draft disaster.

Even when you get it right, OT's take time to adjust to the speed of the NFL game. Duane Brown, as good as he is now, was TERRIBLE his 1st year.

I am not against drafting an OT in the 1st round, in fact they ought to draft one in each of the 1st two rounds, because odds say you have to draft two to get one that is decent. I am VERY concerned that the Texans front office will think they are the smartest guys in the room like the Raiders front office last year and only draft one OT, and ending up with the 2019 version of "Kolton Miller".

As far as I am concerned, the Texans need to throw everything at this problem. They should have paid up for Trent Brown and picked a OT in the 1st round.

I suspect we will be seeing a lot of the same trash in 2019 that we saw last year. Max protecting with a bunch of sub-standard O-Linemen, with TE and RB staying in, all trying to keep Deshaun alive, while only 2 receivers go out in routes.

Nothing will really work in this Offense (or any other offense) until this O-Line gets fixed, Unfortunately I think the only reasonably sure answer to that problem (at least for this year), just signed with Oakland.
 
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Porky said:
The offseason is less than 2 hours old. Can we at least wait until 3 hours before we all do a mass suicide?
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"Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass!"? ;)

If I had a say in this the Texans would be sending JJo, Griffin, and Hal packing for another $10 million in cap space and then be a little more active in free agency but to be honest it's not like we're going to fix this team in free agency entirely anyway and I didn't really much care if we got Brown or not.

Years ago the Texans brought in Chris Myers to solve their issues in the center of the line and drafted Duane Brown to fix that troublesome LT spot. Now guards come and go and a RT is something you gotta eventually find somewhere but at the very least you gotta be able to hold down that blind spot and put another solid is f*** player on the other side of whatever Campbell's soup can you got playing LG. That's when you can start to say you have built something.

Every single year since free agency began someone who is capable of holding a LG spot down (provided you got a decent LT and C) is running around this time of year looking for a job if you can identify him and want to sign him. He might be older or a bad fit where he just got sent packing but you can find one and you don't even need to break the bank or turn over every rock. Greg Mancz is that kind of guy I think.

If the Texans can draft a LT they're one C away from having this thing starting to turn around. They've done it before back in 2008 or so. It happens every year to some team. Maybe this year we find a LT in the draft and I'd be hunting a real center if I was Gaines. Nick Martin remains unimpressive.
 
The Redskins just ****ed with the rest of the NFL including the Texans. HB isn't going to accept 9.5 mil for sure now. And if you want Thomas, it's probably 15+ now.

I swear the Skins have to be the stupidest org in football. Collins isn't going to do crap to make that a winning team so why spend so much $$$$?
 
Porky said:
The Redskins just ****ed with the rest of the NFL including the Texans. HB isn't going to accept 9.5 mil for sure now. And if you want Thomas, it's probably 15+ now.

I swear the Skins have to be the stupidest org in football. Collins isn't going to do crap to make that a winning team so why spend so much $$$$?
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Fk HB he didn’t impress anyway. Go get earl Thomas to mentor Ried. That’s money well spent.
 
steelbtexan said:
After thinking about it over a craft beer, they will be fine but they need to do whatever it takes to get Williams or Dillard. They also should sign a cheap vet like Nsekhe since the org are definitely cheapass bastards.
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I'm glad to hear that SteelB. Long ways to the September KO, we should give Gaine more time before drawing any conclusions about th Texans 2019 offseason.
Are you now liking both Williams & Dillard @ LT better than the WV LT ? Where are you at on Greg Little ?
 
mussop said:
Fk HB he didn’t impress anyway. Go get earl Thomas to mentor Ried. That’s money well spent.
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I agree with this. If you're going to have to kick out big bucks for either one I'd rather have Thomas next to Justin Reid than HB. Mathieu is good don't get me wrong but I think we'd get something approaching our money's worth with Thomas for the King's Ransom we'd have to spend for either of them.
 
AggiebyMarriage said:
The problem with that statement is, that almost half of the 1st round O-Linemen drafted in the 1st round over the last 5 years have been out right busts.

Note that the reason Raiders paid so much for Trent Brown, is that in 2018 "The Raider's fix for their problem at LT for the next 10 years" was drafting "Kolton Miller" out of UCLA 15th in the 1st Round. He did not turn out to even be a one year fix. "Kolton Miller" was a draft disaster.

Even when you get it right, OT's take time to adjust to the speed of the NFL game. Duane Brown, as good as he is now, was TERRIBLE his 1st year.

I am not against drafting an OT in the 1st round, in fact they ought to draft one in each of the 1st two rounds, because odds say you have to draft two to get one that is decent. I am VERY concerned that the Texans front office will think they are the smartest guys in the room like the Raiders front office last year and only draft one OT, and ending up with the 2019 version of "Kolton Miller".

As far as I am concerned, the Texans need to throw everything at this problem. They should have paid up for Trent Brown and picked a OT in the 1st round.

I suspect we will be seeing a lot of the same trash in 2019 that we saw last year. Max protecting with a bunch of sub-standard O-Linemen, with TE and RB staying in, all trying to keep Deshaun alive, while only 2 receivers go out in routes.

Nothing will really work in this Offense (or any other offense) until this O-Line gets fixed, Unfortunately I think the only reasonably sure answer to that problem (at least for this year), just signed with Oakland.
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You gotta take a shot - nothing ventured, nothing gained.
There's always a chance you hit on a good one too.
There are still good olinemen out there in FA, so no need to panic yet.
 
Lucky said:
How about trading their 3rd for Packer reserve LT Jason Spriggs? He has only one year left on his rookie contract, and can't beat out Bakhtiari. If the Packers keep Spriggs though 2019, they will have to wait until 2021 to get a possible comp pick for him.
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Yea he's still young, only in the league 2 or 3 years, sounds like something the Texans should check into.
 
Building the OL and other positions is a continuous process, not something you just "fix" in one year then forget about it for awhile.

Agreed that a drafted lineman could easily yield a bust. Not saying don't draft an OT, but you might draft 3 and have only 1 pan out, and then he might just be average. They need to be constantly looking for guys in the FA market, in trade (like the Pats trading for Trent Brown last year or Seattle trading for Duane Brown) and in the draft.

And they need to develop the guys they do have properly. Not shuffling guys like Davenport and Rankin out of position would help. The dismantling of a good OL when O'Brien got here was a process, and it could be a longer process to rebuild it.

And oh yeah, at the same time they need to rebuild an aging secondary, make sure there is depth in the front 7, get better TEs and RBs, and watch the salary cap (Watson will be due for a big contract extension soon).
 
Porky said:
The Redskins just ****ed with the rest of the NFL including the Texans. HB isn't going to accept 9.5 mil for sure now. And if you want Thomas, it's probably 15+ now.

I swear the Skins have to be the stupidest org in football. Collins isn't going to do crap to make that a winning team so why spend so much $$$$?
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All the Skins did was widen the gap between them and smarter teams. If any other team wants to follow their lead paying crazy money to Honey Badger (who’s presence didn’t change the fact secondary was a weakness against good QBs last season) then they can go right ahead.
 
Lucky said:
How about trading their 3rd for Packer reserve LT Jason Spriggs? He has only one year left on his rookie contract, and can't beat out Bakhtiari. If the Packers keep Spriggs though 2019, they will have to wait until 2021 to get a possible comp pick for him.
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I wanted to draft him. He needed to get stronger but most do. I wonder how or if he’s developed.
 
Texansphan said:
You gotta take a shot - nothing ventured, nothing gained.
There's always a chance you hit on a good one too.
There are still good olinemen out there in FA, so no need to panic yet.
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I agree with you that "There's always a chance you hit on a good one", but trying to hit a 50/50 chance is not how this Front Office should should go about their business.

After 15 years of wandering in the QB wilderness the Texans finally have a QB. If this front office lets Deshauan keep getting so busted up, that he ends up being being to gun-shy to look down field anymore. It will show this whole organization to be total idiots.

This problem needs to get fixed now, and hoping that "you hit on a good one", at 50/50 odds is not a good plan going forward.
 
AggiebyMarriage said:
I agree with you that "There's always a chance you hit on a good one", but trying to hit a 50/50 chance is not how this Front Office should should go about their business.

After 15 years of wandering in the QB wilderness the Texans finally have a QB. If this front office lets Deshauan keep getting so busted up, that he ends up being being to gun-shy to look down field anymore. It will show this whole organization to be total idiots.

This problem needs to get fixed now, and hoping that "you hit on a good one", at 50/50 odds is not a good plan going forward.
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And how do you fix it?
 
mussop said:
And how do you fix it?
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I would say by any means necessary. I hear what Aggie is saying. Not wise to put all of your eggs in one basket. Free agency, trades, draft choices. Give the coaches some options. Leave no stone unturned.

But even Brown carried risk. Almost every acquisition has risk. Orlando Pace is not walking through that door. I would take some advice from that old school rock band REO Speedwagon if I were Gaine and company.

Keep pushing. Keep pushing on.
 
mussop said:
Really? Who?
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Not so much left on the tackle market. Virtually nothing of note left at LT, but JaWuan James or Daryl Williams would be a huge upgrade at RT from our current lackluster selection of rejects. For a value signing, maybe George Fant or Matt Feiler with the Steelers. Neither has done a whole lot but they have some upside at least.

Inside, Saffold is a good guard, but age is a concern. Everyone else available is "meh" or a project.

At C, I would like to see them go after Matt Paradis. He was injured last year, but he would be a huge upgrade if healthy. Mitch Morse is somewhat similar in that he's coming off injury. After that, again it's projects.

If I'm the Texans, I try like hell to sign Paradis/Morse, move our current C to RG guard and throw him in the competition to start there. I'd also try to sign James or Williams and plug him in at RT.

Then draft a LT high in the draft, and you're as close as you can get to fixing the line in one year. At the least - try to sign one of those two RT's. You can't be serious as a playoff team with Henderson as plan A. That's pathetic.
 
Porky said:
Not so much left on the tackle market. Virtually nothing of note left at LT, but JaWuan James or Daryl Williams would be a huge upgrade at RT from our current lackluster selection of rejects. For a value signing, maybe George Fant or Matt Feiler with the Steelers. Neither has done a whole lot but they have some upside at least.

Inside, Saffold is a good guard, but age is a concern. Everyone else available is "meh" or a project.

At C, I would like to see them go after Matt Paradis. He was injured last year, but he would be a huge upgrade if healthy. Mitch Morse is somewhat similar in that he's coming off injury. After that, again it's projects.

If I'm the Texans, I try like hell to sign Paradis/Morse, move our current C to RG guard and throw him in the competition to start there. I'd also try to sign James or Williams and plug him in at RT.

Then draft a LT high in the draft, and you're as close as you can get to fixing the line in one year. At the least - try to sign one of those two RT's. You can't be serious as a playoff team with Henderson as plan A. That's pathetic.
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I agree 100% I would of gone after Brown and drafted a LT prospect. Wonder if there is a LT out there available that we could swap clowney or even Mercilous for.
 
mussop said:
And how do you fix it?
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I do not think there is a much chance to fix it, this year anyway.

They should have paid the price for Trent Brown, who could have played either Right or Left OT. That would have allowed them to drafted the best value OT they could have gotten somewhere within their 1st 3 picks (1st or second round). If they thought the best value was a right tackle (ie Dalton) they could have play him at right and Brown at Left, If they had thought the best value was with a Left Tackle (ie Dillard), they could have played him at at Left, and move Brown to the right. If the draft pick OT was a bust they would only have one weak tackle on the right (ie Henderson). The only true fix would have been sign Brown and draft two OT's in the 1st two rounds. You would have wasted a draft pick, but it would have been fixed.

But all those option are now off the table. None of the remaining FA Tackles are Left Tackles. So now the only thing they can do is draft the best LT they can at 23 (or trade up) and "hope that they hit on a good one". On top of that, they have to take an additional OT in the second "in hope that he is is a good one" in case the 1st round pick is a bust. The statistics say that if you do this one will end up with one tackle with NFL skills, but it will still take him at least a year to catch up to the speed of the NFL. No matter what they do at this point, unless they win the lottery in the draft (or Henderson has talent that he has never shown before), Watson will likely be running for his life again in 2019.

I think at this point there is a very low probability of the O-line problem getting fixed in 2019. I hope that the Front Office's failure to take the O-line problem seriously, does not ruin Deshaun mentally or physically. But there is a strong chance that it will.
 
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AggiebyMarriage said:
I do not think there is a much chance to fix it, this year anyway.

They should have paid the price for Trent Brown, who could have played either Right or Left OT. That would have allowed them to drafted the best value OT they could have gotten somewhere within their 1st 3 picks (1st or second round). If they thought the best value was a right tackle (ie Dalton) they could have play him at right and Brown at Left, If they had thought the best value was with a Left Tackle (ie Dillard), they could have played him at at Left, and move Brown to the right. If the draft pick OT was a bust they would only have one weak tackle on the right (ie Henderson). The only true fix would have been sign Brown and draft two OT's in the 1st two rounds. You would have wasted a draft pick, but it would have been fixed.

But all those option are now off the table. None of the remaining FA Tackles are Left Tackles. So now the only thing they can do is draft the best LT they can at 23 (or trade up) and "hope that they hit on a good one". On top of that, they have to take an additional OT in the second "in hope that he is is a good one" in case the 1st round pick is a bust. The statistics say that if you do this one will end up with a tackle with skills, but will still take at least a year to catch up to the speed of the NFL. No matter what they do at this point, unless they win the lottery in the draft (or Henderson has talent that he has never shown before), Watson will likely be running for his life again in 2019.

I think at this point there is a very low probability of the O-line problem getting fixed in 2019. I hope that the Front Office's failure to take the O-line problem seriously, does not ruin Deshaun mentally or physically. But there is a strong chance that it will.
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Well said.
 
AggiebyMarriage said:
I do not think there is a much chance to fix it, this year anyway.

They should have paid the price for Trent Brown, who could have played either Right or Left OT. That would have allowed them to drafted the best value OT they could have gotten somewhere within their 1st 3 picks (1st or second round). If they thought the best value was a right tackle (ie Dalton) they could have play him at right and Brown at Left, If they had thought the best value was with a Left Tackle (ie Dillard), they could have played him at at Left, and move Brown to the right. If the draft pick OT was a bust they would only have one weak tackle on the right (ie Henderson). The only true fix would have been sign Brown and draft two OT's in the 1st two rounds. You would have wasted a draft pick, but it would have been fixed.

But all those option are now off the table. None of the remaining FA Tackles are Left Tackles. So now the only thing they can do is draft the best LT they can at 23 (or trade up) and "hope that they hit on a good one". On top of that, they have to take an additional OT in the second "in hope that he is is a good one" in case the 1st round pick is a bust. The statistics say that if you do this one will end up with one tackle with NFL skills, but it will still take him at least a year to catch up to the speed of the NFL. No matter what they do at this point, unless they win the lottery in the draft (or Henderson has talent that he has never shown before), Watson will likely be running for his life again in 2019.

I think at this point there is a very low probability of the O-line problem getting fixed in 2019. I hope that the Front Office's failure to take the O-line problem seriously, does not ruin Deshaun mentally or physically. But there is a strong chance that it will.
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On second thought there is one way they could maybe still get this fixed this year (MAYBE), If they sign a free agent RT (Daryl Williams), and then double down by drafting two left tackles with their 1st 3 draft picks( two out of maybe: Dillard, Little, or Cajuste). You accept that one of the two OT's will be a bust. You will have waste a top draft pick, but you at least have a chance of keeping Watson out of harms way in 2019.
 
IDEXAN said:
I'm glad to hear that SteelB. Long ways to the September KO, we should give Gaine more time before drawing any conclusions about th Texans 2019 offseason.
Are you now liking both Williams & Dillard @ LT better than the WV LT ? Where are you at on Greg Little ?
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All of them are better than Davenport. I like Williams and Dillard the most. Cajuste is going to be good but there are questions about his injury history. As of right now if they stay at 23 Little would be my pick. He played well against SEC competition and protecting Watson is more important than finding a CB .IMHO
 
ATXtexanfan said:
What I miss.....


Nevermind
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You missed Texans Talk one year scouting report on Tyrann Matthieu and I have to say.....it doesn’t look very good. I myself am room temperature on The Honey B. I hope they do get a good deal on him and he stays. I’m all about team chemistry.
 
steelbtexan said:
All of them are better than Davenport. I like Williams and Dillard the most. Cajuste is going to be good but there are questions about his injury history. As of right now if they stay at 23 Little would be my pick. He played well against SEC competition and protecting Watson is more important than finding a CB .IMHO
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I agree with you on protecting Watson. Obviously both are needs but getting another CB while Watson is getting killed doesn’t win you anything IMO. You get beat by a team scoring in the mid 20’s with Watson on IR while your improved Secondary keeps it close until they get tired. At least with Watson protected and upright for a whole season you win some shootouts.

They aren’t mutually exclusive. The Texans can and should take steps to fix one and improve the other at the same time
 
Hervoyel said:
I agree with you on protecting Watson. Obviously both are needs but getting another CB while Watson is getting killed doesn’t win you anything IMO. You get beat by a team scoring in the mid 20’s with Watson on IR while your improved Secondary keeps it close until they get tired. At least with Watson protected and upright for a whole season you win some shootouts.

They aren’t mutually exclusive. The Texans can and should take steps to fix one and improve the other at the same time
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Agreed, but they're to cheap to do what you're talking about.

do you agree that protecting your franchise QB is job #1?

SMH (Not directed at you)
 
Lucky said:
How about trading their 3rd for Packer reserve LT Jason Spriggs? He has only one year left on his rookie contract, and can't beat out Bakhtiari. If the Packers keep Spriggs though 2019, they will have to wait until 2021 to get a possible comp pick for him.
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I dont like Srpiggs, he's very athletic but gets overpowered. Give me Nshekhe, powerful and played better in spot starts than Spriggs did. They aren't going to sign either.

I really hope Watson gets his f'n head taken off unless they invest in protecting him. That way maybe they will learn even if it's the hard way.
 
maverick512000 said:
Huh? What are you talking about? No its not my money and its not your money but there are still caps and limits teams have to adhere to so that its not just a case of who is the biggest billionaire. Also what exactly does any of that have to do with "You get what you pay for in life." by that thinking why wasn't the Blunder of OZ the greatest QB the Texans had ever had? We certainly paid him like he would be. You seem to think all the problems can be fixed if you just throw more money at it. Doesn't work in govt., doesn't work in football and doesn't work in life.
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maverick512000 said:
Huh? What are you talking about? No its not my money and its not your money but there are still caps and limits teams have to adhere to so that its not just a case of who is the biggest billionaire. Also what exactly does any of that have to do with "You get what you pay for in life." by that thinking why wasn't the Blunder of OZ the greatest QB the Texans had ever had? We certainly paid him like he would be. You seem to think all the problems can be fixed if you just throw more money at it. Doesn't work in govt., doesn't work in football and doesn't work in life.
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Simply put they are idiots who could care less about winning.

You spend $$$$ on guys that can protect your franchise QB or you have nothing. The blunder of Os is straight up Bob/Cletus/Former GM.
 
Lets trade down into the top of the 2nd rd so the Texans org can save some more $$$$.

Brilliant.
 
steelbtexan said:
Simply put they are idiots who could care less about winning.

You spend $$$$ on guys that can protect your franchise QB or you have nothing. The blunder of Os is straight up Bob/Cletus/Former GM.
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It’s a bit early in the offseason to become unhinged. Lets wait for the draft/free agency to take shape before we start throwing stones.

I’ve lamented the team not trading a late round pick for starting caliber vet OL last couple days... but there are still players in free agency that can help. Williams/James at RT, Saffold at LG, Morse/Paradis at OC.

There’s still DBs on the board. Still RBs. So far Gaine is doing what he already told us he’d do.
 
TheRealJoker said:
It’s a bit early in the offseason to become unhinged. Lets wait for the draft/free agency to take shape before we start throwing stones.

I’ve lamented the team not trading a late round pick for starting caliber vet OL last couple days... but there are still players in free agency that can help. Williams/James at RT, Saffold at LG, Morse/Paradis at OC.

There’s still DBs on the board. Still RBs. So far Gaine is doing what he already told us he’d do.
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After all of these yrs do you really believe any of this sh!t is going to happen?

Or is it more likely Cal's cheapass team will spend this offseason tripping over their d!cks? Just bringing a little reality to the situation.
 
Better to not sign a bad deal just for sake of making a deal. Think Texans will Gaine one of the premier FA corners but realize it’s a competition. I would also increase offers to Honey Badger & Kareem to keep them here.
 
steelbtexan said:
We will see, Gruden disagrees with you.

The difference is Solder was older, Brown is a young, very good 25 yr old LT that the Texans typically dont want to spend $$$$ on. Like I said nothing hs changed and the comes directly from the top. Cal learned well from that cheap old bastard. Count your gold Cal and may your team always suck balls.
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Gruden also traded Khalil Mack because he didn't want to pay him. Then he paid crazy Antonio Brown.

Brown had his only real success playing in the quickest, most efficient passing attack in the league with the best QB alive playing behind him. Even then, his PFF grades from the regular season were mediocre at best. All of his hype is coming from a couple postseason games. His success in NE is not going to translate to Oakland because Oakland doesn't have Brady, Belichick, and McDaniels.

He's a classic overpay.
 
TheRealJoker said:
It’s a bit early in the offseason to become unhinged. Lets wait for the draft/free agency to take shape before we start throwing stones.

I’ve lamented the team not trading a late round pick for starting caliber vet OL last couple days... but there are still players in free agency that can help. Williams/James at RT, Saffold at LG, Morse/Paradis at OC.

There’s still DBs on the board. Still RBs. So far Gaine is doing what he already told us he’d do.
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Sit back watch the best talent come off the board then sweep in and sign a never was on potential. Save money is our best player.
 
WolverineFan said:
Gruden also traded Khalil Mack because he didn't want to pay him. Then he paid crazy Antonio Brown.

Brown had his only real success playing in the quickest, most efficient passing attack in the league with the best QB alive playing behind him. Even then, his PFF grades from the regular season were mediocre at best. All of his hype is coming from a couple postseason games. His success in NE is not going to translate to Oakland because Oakland doesn't have Brady, Belichick, and McDaniels.

He's a classic overpay.
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Time will tell

I'm betting on Gruden/Mayock over BOB/Gaine

BTW, I've liked Brown since he came out for the draft. Check out my mocks for that yr.
 
steelbtexan said:
Time will tell

I'm betting on Gruden/Mayock over BOB/Gaine

BTW, I've liked Brown since he came out for the draft. Check out my mocks for that yr.
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We shouldn't get frustrated yet... I know we have a history (other than 2011 and last off-season) of sitting on our hands early in free agency... However, we also have a history of very poor and lazy beat writers in Houston. There is a good chance that we are as active as a number of these team but there is no reporting on our activity because deals are not finalized and submitted for another 42 hours.
 
I don't mind the Texans sitting out the original feeding frenzy of FA. The Foles, Collins, Brown, Alexander contracts are bananas.

What does bother me is guys like Kelechi Osmele and DeSean Jackson getting acquired by teams for late round picks. Those are the kind of moves the Texans should be making.
 
TheKDog said:
Told you it's been the Obrien regime the whole time. OL and offense won't get fixed until he's gone

Obrien is HAPPY with Davenport and seantrel as his tackles.
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Some of us underestimate the power our HC actually has.
Texansphan said:
You gotta take a shot - nothing ventured, nothing gained.
There's always a chance you hit on a good one too.
There are still good olinemen out there in FA, so no need to panic yet.
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We've taken shots but came up empty too much.
 
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