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2017 Texans Free Agents/Salary Cap Situation: Where do we stand?

Wolfiegrrl said:
Honestly, I thought this article made a very important point. Rick is no good in the offseason or draft, but he sure as hell can find some great talent at an affordable rate in the middle of the season.
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Which is why the Texans org is what it is

Trying to get by with 2nd rate talent,

I bet Hoodie is shaking in his boots at the thought of Ricky McNair signing Walker/Gibson
 
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Hey, at this point... I'll take any nugget of chocolate to cover the dog turd taste in my mouth after the last 4 seasons. I don't care for the fact that the front office has more dictation over the roster than the coach. We all know the 2-14 debacle of Kubiak's last year was due in part to not getting the guys needed to run the game plan. The same thing has been happening with B'OB. I'm hoping someone *cough Rick Smith cough* grows a brain, finds a new way to run the front office or gets moved to a different position. He is the one common factor. Please will someone let Robert McNair in on that little secret?
 
regarding the salary cap

how do incentives are calculated against the cap?

let's say a contract has a bonus for playoff wins / SB wins

how is the cap affected by those numbers?

do we need to keep enough space to account for everything, and in case we miss the playoffs we are just left with some extra cap that we can bring to the next year?

could we spend that early and get the bonuses removed from the next year's cap?

I'd guess the former is more likely than the latter, but I couldn't find much info online
 
Sigma said:
regarding the salary cap

how do incentives are calculated against the cap?

let's say a contract has a bonus for playoff wins / SB wins

how is the cap affected by those numbers?

do we need to keep enough space to account for everything, and in case we miss the playoffs we are just left with some extra cap that we can bring to the next year?

could we spend that early and get the bonuses removed from the next year's cap?

I'd guess the former is more likely than the latter, but I couldn't find much info online
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Not certain but I think incentives are accounted for in following season's cap.
 
Sigma said:
regarding the salary cap

how do incentives are calculated against the cap?

let's say a contract has a bonus for playoff wins / SB wins

how is the cap affected by those numbers?

do we need to keep enough space to account for everything, and in case we miss the playoffs we are just left with some extra cap that we can bring to the next year?

could we spend that early and get the bonuses removed from the next year's cap?

I'd guess the former is more likely than the latter, but I couldn't find much info online
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badboy said:
Not certain but I think incentives are accounted for in following season's cap.
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Not 100% sure on this, but I think incentives are categorized as "likely to be achieved" and "not likely..." The former counts against current year's cap unless not achieved, and the latter goes on the following years cap if achieved.
 
paycheck71 said:
Not 100% sure on this, but I think incentives are categorized as "likely to be achieved" and "not likely..." The former counts against current year's cap unless not achieved, and the latter goes on the following years cap if achieved.
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Correct. Whether or not a bonus is likely to owed is determined largely by whether it was achieved the prior season or whether it is completely in control of the player like workout bonuses.
 
With $30M in cap space, $72M next year, and Tony Romo out of the mix, we should see an extension for Hopkins. I see no reason not to front load his extension. $16-17M this year and $15M next year with a more roster bonus, rather than signing bonus, structure in the first two years. This would lower our cap space for this year to $21-22M and to $57M next year, while keeping his cap hits in years past 2018 relatively low and largely not guaranteed.

2018 cap space listed here does not include rollover. So, we are talking about $78-$79M in space for 2018 after that extension.

I see no smarter way to start using this money at this point.
 
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TexansSeminole said:
With $30M in cap space, $72M next year, and Tony Romo out of the mix, we should see an extension for Hopkins. I see no reason not to front load his extension. $16-17M this year and $15M next year with a more roster bonus, rather than signing bonus, structure in the first two years. This would lower our cap space for this year to $21-22M and to $57M next year, while keeping his cap hits in years past 2018 relatively low and largely not guaranteed.

2018 cap space listed here does not include rollover. So, we are talking about $78-$79M in space for 2018 after that extension.

I see no smarter way to start using this money at this point.
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Are we sure Hopkins is interested in signing a long term deal now?

If I were him I would test free agency next year rather than play long term for a sorry ass qb
 
Sigma said:
Are we sure Hopkins is interested in signing a long term deal now?

If I were him I would test free agency next year rather than play long term for a sorry ass qb
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We can pick up his option for next year and he'd be stuck w us.
 
PapaL said:
We can pick up his option for next year and he'd be stuck w us.
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That's what I meant
Wait 1 year to see what progress there is at qb
If you sign now and savage plays like crap you're screwed

On the other hand if savage is good hopkins stats will Improve and not only he will be happy to stay, but he'll have an higher stock so he might get an even better contract

AND he will be in his free agency year, so he can even try to use that at his advantage
 
If he doesn't sign an extension, the QB play is trash again, and he doesn't have a good year, his value takes a hit.

I'd be surprised if Hopkins refuses a deal in which he's getting $30-32M in guaranteed money in the next two years.
 
TexansSeminole said:
If he doesn't sign an extension, the QB play is trash again, and he doesn't have a good year, his value takes a hit.

I'd be surprised if Hopkins refuses a deal in which he's getting $30-32M in guaranteed money in the next two years.
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let's see what the options are:

Hopkins Signs:
A- QB stinks, Hopkins is screwed with a long term contract with a bad QB that will run his stock and motivation into the ground
B- QB is great, Hopkins is set. could have waited a year and got a better contract, but still the future looks bright. (also, hell freezing over solved global warming)


Hopkins does not sign:
A- QB is great, not only Hopkins is set, but he gets a better contract in 2018 given his stock was inflated by our savage saviour (also I sprout wings and finally get to have sex with Jennifer Lawrence)
B- QB is crap, Hopkins reputation drops but the situation is probably still salvageable. maybe he goes on a worse team overall which has a better QB (Indy comes to mind) with a short contract that allows him to show what he's got, build his stock back and then try to get his long time contract with a team that can actually make him look like a valid receiver
 
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