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2009 Texans Talk Member Mock Draft

Super Mario said:
The Bengals Select Michael Oher, OL, Ole Miss.
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Good selection. I was torn between him and Smith, I think the bengals are as much a lock to take an OT this year as you can get, and the board should set up nicely for them.

I see Jason Smith as having a more immediate impact from a pass rush protection standpoint, but I think Oher has such a high ceiling. I really like the LT's this year.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Good selection. I was torn between him and Smith, I think the bengals are as much a lock to take an OT this year as you can get, and the board should set up nicely for them.

I see Jason Smith as having a more immediate impact from a pass rush protection standpoint, but I think Oher has such a high ceiling. I really like the LT's this year.
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I agree. I think this years class of elite OT's are really great, and its hard to make a bad selection with such good prospects.
 
That's what I've been thinking. How do they feel about Mario Henderson developing as a tackle? Will he be their long term solution at LT or RT? They could have a good tandem with Smith on the left and Henderson on the right.

But since that would be the smart thing to do, they probably will go with Maclin or a pass rusher like yall have mentioned.

What are your thoughts on going w/ Vontae Davis? Asomugha will probably be gone next year and Deangelo Hall was cut? or still with the team. Al could fall in love with Vontae.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
That's what I've been thinking. How do they feel about Mario Henderson developing as a tackle? Will he be their long term solution at LT or RT? They could have a good tandem with Smith on the left and Henderson on the right.
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Henderson played at FSU and he was decent here. He is more of a RT than a LT.
 
Not sure about Oakland but Russell showed signs of at least being a capable playcaller and should have a healthy running game at least. Is Namdi does leave will put them ina pretty bad position at corner as well.

Feel sorry for Oakland fans. Haven't really heard if they have decided on a HC.

Edit: looks like they are probably going to keep Cable
 
HOU-TEX said:
I don't think there's a chance in heck we take a RB in the 1st. We passed on Mendenhall last draft and I would expect the same this draft if a similar situation were to occur.



Agreed. Personally, I'd put OLB as a higher priority than the S positions in the 1st. If a DE or an outstanding DT is not there at 15 I'd look at OLB then the S positions.
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Agree with both points. A players psychie is part of it. And everything they said in December is Steve Slaton is the man. So now you're going to take a guy, a rookie, and pay him first round money while Steve Slaton is toating the load for the Texans with his third round contract? I don't know about that one my friends. You don't ******* up the looker room. Not on purpose any way. Anything that has a chance to divide the team you stay away from with a ten foot pole....and yes that includes a stud runningback.
 
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threetoedpete said:
Agree with both points. A players psychie is part of it. And everything they said in December is Steve Slaton is the man. So now you're going to take a guy, a rookie, and pay him first round money while Steve Slaton is toating the load for the Texans with his third round contract. I don't know about that one my friends. Don't ******* up the looker room. Not on purpose any way.
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I dont undestand this line of thinking. First off I doubt Slaton gives a flying duck what the Texans do with their first pick. Slaton stays healthy this year and continues to play well he will get his money. Secondly the RB position is very important to our offense. Why not have at our disposal another serious offensive threat for depth at a position that takes such a pounding and is so important in keeping our offense going. If Slaton gets banged up and we dont have a good replacement for him teams will unload on Schaub and this team will fall apart.
 
mussop said:
I dont undestand this line of thinking. First off I doubt Slaton gives a flying duck what the Texans do with their first pick. Slaton stays healthy this year and continues to play well he will get his money. Secondly the RB position is very important to our offense. Why not have at our disposal another serious offensive threat for depth at a position that takes such a pounding and is so important in keeping our offense going. If Slaton gets banged up and we dont have a good replacement for him teams will unload on Schaub and this team will fall apart.
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Well then he is a very rare humane being indeed.

My first off I dunno.....Slaton bums his ankle. Moreno comes in and lightes it up for a while....then gets the fumbles... They put Slaton back in.....he lights it up for a while....then bums the ankle again... now you've got two guys doing well and filp of a coin who's to start and get the majority of the touches....in this system....one guy is going to get the touches.....and everyone has an opion....including all of the players locker room.....that my freind is the disaster. They choose Moreno....Slaton moves into the third down back role....his money, which you say he doesn't care about, just went floating down the river...Now you've got a divided locker room. You're screwed....kiss off '09.
Got it now ?

All oars in the water going in the same direction. Doesn't work any other way.

Is Steve Slaton the man in Houston or not ? Drafting a runningback high says to me no he is not...and guess what ? Steve Slaton will get the message also...he's only humane. No back befor the third round please.
 
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threetoedpete said:
Well then he is a very rare humane being indeed.

My first off I dunno.....Slaton bums his ankle. Moreno comes in and lightes it up for a while....then gets the fumbles... They put Slaton back in.....he lights it up for a while....then bums the ankle again... now you've got two guys doing well and filp of a coin who's to start and get the majority of the touches....in this system....one guy is going to get the touches.....and everyone has an opion....including all of the players locker room.....that my freind is the disaster. They choose Moreno....Slaton moves into the third down back role....his money, which you say he doesn't care about, just went floating down the river...Now you've got a divided locker room. You're screwed....kiss off '09.
Got it now ?

All oars in the water going in the same direction. Doesn't work any other way.

Is Steve Slaton the man in Houston or not ? Drafting a runningback high says to me no he is not...and guess what ? Steve Slaton will get the message also...he's only humane. No back befor the third round please.
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Sorry but I really think you are reaching here. In the last few years Tennesse, Dallas, Carolina and Pittsburg have all drafted a RB in the first round while having a very good RB already in place. Havent heard of any problems from their locker rooms.
 
bah007 said:
In this situation, I think Oakland is really only looking at J. Smith, Maclin, and Orakpo.
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While everyone in Oakland will be screaming for some o line help or D line help, Al Davis will do the unthinkable and draft Maclin Which I think would be kinda stupid with the players that are left on the board.

Im going to make Steroid's pick by noon so we can keep this thing going.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
That's what I've been thinking. How do they feel about Mario Henderson developing as a tackle? Will he be their long term solution at LT or RT? They could have a good tandem with Smith on the left and Henderson on the right.

But since that would be the smart thing to do, they probably will go with Maclin or a pass rusher like yall have mentioned.

What are your thoughts on going w/ Vontae Davis? Asomugha will probably be gone next year and Deangelo Hall was cut? or still with the team. Al could fall in love with Vontae.
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Honestly, it's impossible to predict what Al Davis is going to do. Vontae Davis is an elite athlete who has never played to his potential and has serious questions about his heart and effort.

How could he NOT wind up in Dallas or Oakland?...
 
Sounds like the Raiders need a LT like Smith, or a DT like Raji. Anyone? Anyone?

Maclin a close third.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I think there may be a team still available. I seem to remember someone having to cover 2 teams.
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HOU-TEX can have the Dolphins if you want. I am the last person drafting for 2 teams.

Steroids has 1 hour to pick before I post his pick here. It has already been decided.
 
Super Mario said:
HOU-TEX can have the Dolphins if you want. I am the last person drafting for 2 teams.

Steroids has 1 hour to pick before I post his pick here. It has already been decided.
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Cool, I'll take the Phins.

To me, the obvious choice for the Raiders is Smith. BUT, with Al 'Psycho' Davis making the call it'll likely be someone who lights it up at the combine. If a WR turns in an awesome combine you can pencil him in as the Raiders pick.:cool:
 
mussop said:
Sorry but I really think you are reaching here. In the last few years Tennesse, Dallas, Carolina and Pittsburg have all drafted a RB in the first round while having a very good RB already in place. Havent heard of any problems from their locker rooms.
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These are 4 teams with alot of talent that could afford to take a luxury player. We cant.
 
BigBull17 said:
These are 4 teams with alot of talent that could afford to take a luxury player. We cant.
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The 2005 draft had three RB's taken in the top 5. They obviously had alot of holes to fill and still took a luxury player. So why can these teams do it, but the Texans cant?

My thought is that teams draft based on need and BPA most of the time. The Texans have a need for RB, but don't draft RB's in round 1 and have Slaton, so a 2nd round pick like Shonn Greene or 3rd round Jeremiah Johnson would make more sense to me.
 
I really like Moreno and think he'd be a great player on our team but I would still be dissappointed in the pick. If it comes down to not having any defensive players of value at #15 I really hope we trade down. I'm not a fan of spending an early pick on RB especially with Slaton showing he's our primary guy. I don't want to spend a 1st rd pick on a situational player unless he becomes one of the best pass rushers in the league... that's the only position.
 
Super Mario said:
The 2005 draft had three RB's taken in the top 5. They obviously had alot of holes to fill and still took a luxury player. So why can these teams do it, but the Texans cant?

My thought is that teams draft based on need and BPA most of the time. The Texans have a need for RB, but don't draft RB's in round 1 and have Slaton, so a 2nd round pick like Shonn Greene or 3rd round Jeremiah Johnson would make more sense to me.
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They all needed Running Backs. They didn't have a guy as good as Slaton.
 
mussop said:
Of coarse Dallas has problems in the locker room but its not because of them drafting Felix Jones when they already had Marion Barber.
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That was a weird case.

They let Julius Jones go, which must have made Marion Barber happy. Then they draft Felix Jones, which must have made Marion Barber wonder. Then they draft Tashard Choice, which was a head scratcher.

And they ended up needing all of them and it wasn't enough.
 
BigBull17 said:
These are 4 teams with alot of talent that could afford to take a luxury player. We cant.
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And how well do you think our offense will fair if Slaton goes down for a significant amount of time? Im not saying we should draft a RB in the first just that its not as bad an idea as some here think it would be. This of coarse depends on the RB being the BPA and so good we cant pass him up. IMO LeSean McCoy of Pittsburgh is a Slaton clone and I would not hesitate taking him at 15 if there were no trade down offers and all the top players we want are gone.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
That was a weird case.

They let Julius Jones go, which must have made Marion Barber happy. Then they draft Felix Jones, which must have made Marion Barber wonder. Then they draft Tashard Choice, which was a head scratcher.

And they ended up needing all of them and it wasn't enough.
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My point exactly!
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I really like Moreno and think he'd be a great player on our team but I would still be dissappointed in the pick. If it comes down to not having any defensive players of value at #15 I really hope we trade down. I'm not a fan of spending an early pick on RB especially with Slaton showing he's our primary guy. I don't want to spend a 1st rd pick on a situational player unless he becomes one of the best pass rushers in the league... that's the only position.
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As usual agree with your assesment OMT. I think there is better value for this team at defense specifically LB in the 1st round. The one thing that does however, attract me to a pick like Moreno at 15 is who totes the rock IF Steve Slaton goes down? Brown might be back next year, Ahman is likely cut and while Moats didn't look terrible can he take a big load? What round do we go RB at? I think a guy like Shonn Green or McCoy would fit nicely but how long will they stay around? Jeremiah Johnson in the third? The offense exploded this year because we got a consistent running game going with Slaton and my worry is it will regress big time if Slaton goes down early.

Peyton finished the year strong and lead his team into the playoffs but I think pound for pound you could make a very strong case that no player meant more to their team then Slaton. Of course that's JMO.
 
mussop said:
Of coarse Dallas has problems in the locker room but its not because of them drafting Felix Jones when they already had Marion Barber.
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I don't know...wasn't there a bit of a rift between Barber and Ol' Jerry midseason about Barber's will to play? Would you play for a guy who drafted not only your replacement, but his back up as well? It could've had an effect. With that soap opera ERRRR locker room, anything is not only possible but likely.

If all else falls through, take another OL guy even if it means shuffling the positions. Even with improved play they were at best average. Sad thing is, with guys like Brisel, Myers (even Pitts, but only because of his age) I think that they are just about maxed out as a group.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Although I do think we take a RB somewhere in this draft, I don't think it's going to be in the first 3 rounds.
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This line of thinking is exactly what I am talking about. If a RB is BPA why not draft him??? Just because Slaton is good doesnt mean that the RB position cant be upgraded. Remember this is a running offense.
 
Moreno is listed at 207 lbs. I think I remember something that Kubiak said about looking at guys in the 215-230 range. I don't think 7 lbs. will matter, I think we really just need a guy who can run straight into the trenches and not be on the ground at first contact.
 
TimeKiller said:
Moreno is listed at 207 lbs. I think I remember something that Kubiak said about looking at guys in the 215-230 range. I don't think 7 lbs. will matter, I think we really just need a guy who can run straight into the trenches and not be on the ground at first contact.
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LeSean McCoy is the best RB in this draft IMO. He also could be the BPA when we pick. If we couldnt trade down I would be happy with him. He brings eveything to the table that Slaton does only he hits the hole faster. He and Slaton would be a dynamic duo.

Why draft a lesser player that has less chance to pan out just because he plays defense? I would rather make a strenght stronger.
 
mussop said:
This line of thinking is exactly what I am talking about. If a RB is BPA why not draft him??? Just because Slaton is good doesnt mean that the RB position cant be upgraded. Remember this is a running offense.
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But remember that it's pretty rare for this group of guys to draft RB's in the first couple of rounds anyway. They were willing to wait until the 3rd and take a "3rd down back" when all they had was Ahman Green.

If an RB is the BPA available, I wouldn't be too upset if they took them. I'd just be very surprised because I don't think they put the same value on that position that a lot of people do. I think they think they can get another great RB later.
 
steroids said:
Sorry about that. Skip this section of the board for 3 days and the MB in general for 36 hours and I hold up a mock draft. Wouldn't have gone Smith, but won't name names as I don't want to throw off your draft.

Good luck!
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Who would you have taken? Its not too late to change since Ryan hasnt picked yet.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
What time does Ryan turn into a pumpkin ?

I wouldn't be opposed to start over and you have to send two prospects one pick before it's your pick or you'll pick for them .
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12pm.

We are going to move this to a 12 hour clock.

Anyone can email me their list in case they arent here to pick.
 
The Jags need help in the middle of their line, but that can wait until round 2 and 3. The Jags select their MLB of the future... Rey Maualuga, ILB, U.S.C.
 
Super Mario said:
The Jags need help in the middle of their line, but that can wait until round 2 and 3. The Jags select their MLB of the future... Rey Maualuga, ILB, U.S.C.
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So with that move are they willing to let Mike Peterson walk? IF so I think we could use his services.
 
Super Mario said:
I assume he will be the anchor of your new Dom Capers 3-4 defense?

Maybe you can snag an OLB like Clint Sintim in the 2nd?

Mussop and the #10 49ers are on the clock.
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I figured the gap between Raji and the next NG was greater than Brown and as you said ... Sintin . I might had looked at OT if one fell or Jenkins .

I also considered the Patriots , Steelers , and Ravens , all took NGs in the 1st round for their 3-4 . I think Raji is like Wolfork .

As for the ... we're on a roll comment ... it meant we made two picks in one day .
 
I find it very interesting that the 49ers are on the clock and BOTH Stafford and Sanchez are still available. Singletary seems to like Hill, but I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted one of these quarterbacks should one or both fall this far.
 
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