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2009 Texans Talk Member Mock Draft

With the 16th pick in the 2009 NFL draft…

The San Diego Chargers select…

Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU

This might be a bit of a reach, but with Igor Olshansky possibly leaving this becomes an area of need. I thought about both Mereno & Jerry with this pick, but the Chargers can take a RB later in this draft, & Jerry is more of a 4-3 DT then a 3-4. I tried trading back where I thought Jackson might still be available but I got no offers so I decided to go ahead and pick him here.

Daaangit, that's who I was targeting at 20!! 12 was too high for him. Nice pick for the chargers though.
 
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I figured we would go Brown. We need a DE who can rush the passer and Brown fits that mold. I think some see him as a possible 3-4 OLB, but lets hope that we get more out of this Florida State pick.
After watching the bowl game against Wisconsin I see him as a 4-3 DE. He was constantly running stunts inside where he was beating solid NFL calibur prospects. He also showed the burst off the edge. I just can't take seeing Mario make up 1/2 of our team's sacks anymore, adding another pass rusher would make us deadly.
 
I like it. There are still alot of good players on the board.

At 26, I may think about trading down. If anyone was thinking about trading up and grabbing one of these late first round picks, I am potentially interested.
 
NYJ selects Brandon Pettigrew, TE.

<ESPN Producer: Queue music, roll clip>
MKJ: A perfect fit for an up-and-down offense. Brandon Pettigrew is a solid offensive weapon, and a huge upgrade at an underperforming position on an underperforming offense.

blah blah blah

Seriously, I think its a good fit.

My only regret is knowing that, had I not chosen Pettigrew, I am certain that Spec would not have chosen him.

Spec, you're up.

Rick
 
With the 18th pick the Bears select Aaron Maybin DE Penn ST 6' 3 1/2" 250 #

Explanation: The Bears have 2 of the best LB in the NFC and one of the worst Pass defenses last year. So with no CB rated high enough the best way to go is to pressure the passer to help the pass D out. While WR and DT were also a consideration here, I went with the highest rated player on the board at a need position.
 
bah007's Bucs are up.

Picks coming up soon:
Ole Miss Texan's Broncos
jgl35's Eagles
rmartin65's Vikings
Texan in Japan's Pats.
 
WOW.

So that's an actual Texans FAN making that pick?

Wow and wow.


Here's his explanation . I guess I'd be ticked a bit because the purpose is to simulate the real thing and one pick will throw the whole thing out of whack . Besides I wouldn't want the Texans to take Wells .


you guys are taking this mock way too serious. its true that the texans have never taking a running back in the first round but that doesn't mean its not a possibility. none of us ever heard of aaron maybin until last year, dj moore is a reach in the first round, brian cushing wouldnt start in our defense and isnt worth a first round pick in imo and there is word he might be on steroids. and yosarian, this whole mock is very unrealistic! we cannot even trade picks. we have more first round picks on our defense that we do on offense. yet, our offense finished #3 and our defense #23. i have always said that our problem on defense had more to do with the scheme than our personel.

everybody claims wells is injury prone but i couldn't find any other injuries besides the toe injury he had and he only missed 3 games due to injury his entire college carreer. he put up better numbers than moreno. this guy is a stud.
 
With the 19th pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select......Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri.


The Bucs have quite a few needs. WR is one of them and Maclin is the highest rated player still on the board for the Bucs. Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard are on their last legs and Michael Clayton hasn't shown anything since his rookie year. Antonio Bryant will have to be a one man show unless he gets some help. When it came down to it, the Bucs couldn't resist the allure of Maclin's potential and big play ability as a WR and a return man.
 
With the 19th pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select......Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri.


The Bucs have quite a few needs. WR is one of them and Maclin is the highest rated player still on the board for the Bucs. Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard are on their last legs and Michael Clayton hasn't shown anything since his rookie year. Antonio Bryant will have to be a one man show unless he gets some help. When it came down to it, the Bucs couldn't resist the allure of Maclin's potential and big play ability as a WR and a return man.

Good pick. BPA and fits a need for the team.
 
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
you guys are taking this mock way too serious.
Because the point is trying to replicate a REAL draft.
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
its true that the texans have never taking a running back in the first round but that doesn't mean its not a possibility.
True. Slaton makes this less of a need but that was a true statement.
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
none of us ever heard of aaron maybin until last year, dj moore is a reach in the first round, brian cushing wouldnt start in our defense and isnt worth a first round pick in imo and there is word he might be on steroids.
1. "None of us ever heard of" Mario Williams until the year of or before the draft- bad excuse by CrazyFanThatPickedWells.
2. DJ Moore has been a steady riser, but if he's a reach... don't pick him.
3. Brian Cushing would instantly start at SLB on this team, who would start ahead of him, Diles? I have high hopes for his recovery but I believe Cushing would be more game ready than Diles at Week1. Not worth a 1st round/steroid allegations? Fair to me, there are a lot of ?'s about Cushing, including his injury history.
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
and yosarian, this whole mock is very unrealistic! we cannot even trade picks.
So do your part to make it as realistic as possible.
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
we have more first round picks on our defense that we do on offense. yet, our offense finished #3 and our defense #23.
Aaannndd this has to do with selecting a 1st round running back how?
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
i have always said that our problem on defense had more to do with the scheme than our personel.
Very good point and that very well could be the case... but does that necessarily mean we avoid adding more talent to a squad that does need it?
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
everybody claims wells is injury prone but i couldn't find any other injuries besides the toe injury he had and he only missed 3 games due to injury his entire college carreer.
Wells has had ankle and wrist injuries during his Jr. year. Main injury was his toe injury that got him carted off the field and missed games, also has had hamstring issues.
CrazyFanThatPickedWells said:
he put up better numbers than moreno. this guy is a stud.
Another "stat" junkie. Maybe he should get his stats right even if he's going to use that arguement for transitioning into the pros... which i'm against.
Wells: 1,197 yards and 8 TDs
Moreno: 1,400 yards and 16 TDs

Do we want to add their receiving yards too?
Wells: 47 yards and 0 TDs
Moreno: 392 yards and 2 TDs

Maybe Colt McCoy should have declared. He had better stats than Matt Stafford so Colt easily would have been selected before him!! :cool:
 
With the 19th pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select......Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri.


The Bucs have quite a few needs. WR is one of them and Maclin is the highest rated player still on the board for the Bucs. Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard are on their last legs and Michael Clayton hasn't shown anything since his rookie year. Antonio Bryant will have to be a one man show unless he gets some help. When it came down to it, the Bucs couldn't resist the allure of Maclin's potential and big play ability as a WR and a return man.

I like it. Perfect spot in round 1 for Maclin, and a team that needs help at WR since Clayton hasnt exactly become a true #1 WR.
 
With the 19th pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select......Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri.


The Bucs have quite a few needs. WR is one of them and Maclin is the highest rated player still on the board for the Bucs. Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard are on their last legs and Michael Clayton hasn't shown anything since his rookie year. Antonio Bryant will have to be a one man show unless he gets some help. When it came down to it, the Bucs couldn't resist the allure of Maclin's potential and big play ability as a WR and a return man.

Wow this is a perfect fit. One of the best picks I've seen in the entire draft so far.
 
Okay folks we have learned that the San Diego Chargers will be giving up Tyson Jackson, their 3rd round pick #78th overall & San Diego's 6th round selection.

San Diego in return, will be getting Denver's 20th pick along with Denver's 48th pick.

Trade analysis:

Denver
1st (20): 850 points
2nd (48th): 420 points
1,270 total points

San Diego
1st (16): 1000 points
3rd (78): 200 points
6th 20 points
1,220 points

I gotta go, but I will make the pick when I get back.
 
Wow this is a perfect fit. One of the best picks I've seen in the entire draft so far.

I didn't think Maclin would make it down to #19 so I had plans to trade back, but they got nixed when Pettigrew was selected and the other team canceled on me.

I'm happy with this though. He was the highest available player on my board at my biggest need so I'm not feeling too bad about it.
 
Okay folks we have learned that the San Diego Chargers will be giving up Tyson Jackson, their 3rd round pick #78th overall & San Diego's 6th round selection.

San Diego in return, will be getting Denver's 20th pick along with Denver's 48th pick.

Trade analysis:

Denver
1st (20): 850 points
2nd (48th): 420 points
1,270 total points

San Diego
1st (16): 1000 points
3rd (78): 200 points
6th 20 points
1,220 points

I gotta go, but I will make the pick when I get back.

So Denver gets their 34 DE plus they have managed to move up in both the 2nd (#48 to #33) and 3rd rounds (#79 to #78).

Nice maneuvering OMT.
 
With the 20th pick in the 2009 NFL draft...

The San Diego Chargers select...

Knowshon Mereno, RB, Georgia.

With LT past his prime & Sproles possibly leaving the Chargers select their RB of the future with Mereno. LT & Mereno will be a good 1-2 punch next year.
 
Will this draft pause for the weekend? LOL. It looks like my pick might come over the weekend. Will I have to check in? Or will we resume Monday?
 
So Denver gets their 34 DE plus they have managed to move up in both the 2nd (#48 to #33) and 3rd rounds (#79 to #78).

Nice maneuvering OMT.
Thanks bah, this strategery is my favorite part about the nfl draft.

With the 20th pick in the 2009 NFL draft...

The San Diego Chargers select...

Knowshon Mereno, RB, Georgia.
I was really interested in this selection. I think Moreno is a great pick especially after being able to move back a little and get back into the 2nd round. It wouldn't surprise me if the Chargers move back on draft day.

If Houston wants to move back, we may actually be better positioned b/c the Chargers will probably want a 2nd rd pick.
 
Philadelphia selects LeSean McCoy RB Pitt.
It is time to give Westbrook some rest. McCoy is the guy to do this.

Some mocks have the Eagles taking Wells. I see McCoy as a better fit to the offense they run. The Eagles throw to their backs a lot. Wells only has 15 catches in his carrer.

In the draft, I look for the Eagles to trade these picks. One or both in some kind of deal for Anquan Boldin, a move down with one of them for a high 2 and a first next year, or both for a move up for someone they really like that falls.
Also I think they will make a big run at Jorden Gross in FA over drafting a tackle.
 
Personally I'm not a big fan of this pick. I just don't see the Jets selecting ANOTHER Tight End in the first round. Dustin Keller played very well and they've got good depth at that position.

Sure, everyone's a critic. :)

It was a balancing act of team need and BPA. :kingkong: I have no idea what kingkong means, but I just like him.
 
The Browns have traded their 2nd (#36), 4th and 6th round picks to the Vikings for their 1st round pick (#22).

The Browns have traded up so they can make sure they get their man.

Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia.

With the Patriots, Dolphins, Ravens, and Steelers all coming up before the Browns 2nd round pick I needed to address the Browns most pressing need. A pass rush OLB for their 3-4 defense.

Eric Mangini continues to build in the trenches (I consider the LB's of a 3-4 defense as in the trenches) with Andre Smith and Clint Sintim.
 
This trading thing makes it a little weird. People don't have to feel the full effect of their trades because we don't go past the 3rd round.
 
This trading thing makes it a little weird. People don't have to feel the full effect of their trades because we don't go past the 3rd round.

Seems like some people have a problem where trades are not allowed and some people have an issue when trades are allowed.
 
4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round picks are very valuable to teams and are an important part of the draft. The problem is it's not as fun b/c we won't get to actually use those picks and select a player. But its a very real part of the draft and the more selections you accumulate the better chances you have to get some good players.

No future picks or current nfl players are being allowed to be used, and with good reason I think. I think if you don't want to accumulate later round picks b/c you can't use them (in this draft) then don't trade down. But texanseminole, I agree to an extent, some people may not care if they give up their 4th through 7th round picks in total... so in that sense it could be unrealistic.


Nice selection with Sintim, he should be a great fit as a 3-4 LB.
 
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4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round picks are very valuable to teams and are an important part of the draft. The problem is it's not as fun b/c we won't get to actually use those picks and select a player. But its a very real part of the draft and the more selections you accumulate the better chances you have to get some good players.

No future picks or current nfl players are being allowed to be used, and with good reason I think. I think if you don't want to accumulate later round picks b/c you can't use them (in this draft) then don't trade down. But texanseminole, I agree to an extent, some people may not care if they give up their 4th through 7th round picks in total... so in that sense it could be unrealistic.


Nice selection with Sintim, he should be a great fit as a 3-4 LB.

Thanks.

In regards to trading picks being unrealistic may I remind yall of the Ricky Williams trade.

I needed to trade up to get my OLB before other 3-4 teams were up and to make the deal fair I gave up a 4th and a 6th. Doesnt mean I cant trade down in the 3rd and get back a 6th or something.

Also I think when we are done with the three rounds, people will take into account the fact that you accumulated extra picks as well.
 
Seems like some people have a problem where trades are not allowed and some people have an issue when trades are allowed.

The only thing about it is that it creates incentive to make this thing unrealistic. If you aren't making the picks for rounds 4-7 then why wouldn't you trade them off to make an extra pick in the mock. Other than that it's cool.

Oh I like your Sintim pick alot. He was my #2 player on the board at the time and he fits a need. Great pick!

I think Sintim can play both ILB and OLB in the 3-4. Kind of the way Timmons played for the Steelers this year. You can move him around. He can do all three things. First off he can tackle, he can also cover, and finally he can BLITZ. I can see the Browns moving Sintim around before the snap to confuse offenses. Wimbley is more of a stationary pass rusher, but Sintim I think is more versatile.

But texanseminole, I agree to an extent, some people may not care if they give up their 4th through 7th round picks in total... so in that sense it could be unrealistic.


Nice selection with Sintim, he should be a great fit as a 3-4 LB.

Wow way to make my exact post 15 minutes before I make it.
 
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In regards to trading picks being unrealistic may I remind yall of the Ricky Williams trade.
lol: No one would be dumb enought to.... oh wait your right... LOL
Wow way to make my exact post 15 minutes before I make it.
:dance:
Also I think when we are done with the three rounds, people will take into account the fact that you accumulated extra picks as well.
That's what I'm thinking too. This reminds me of the old Draft format where the 1st day was rounds 1-3. We're just doing the 1st day but we can look forward to Day 2 and see which teams have picked up some extra picks and who has lost out on some.
 
lol: No one would be dumb enought to.... oh wait your right... LOL

:dance:

That's what I'm thinking too. This reminds me of the old Draft format where the 1st day was rounds 1-3. We're just doing the 1st day but we can look forward to Day 2 and see which teams have picked up some extra picks and who has lost out on some.

I'll trade my 4th , 5th, 6th, and 7th for a 2nd .
 
That's an awful idea... I LOVE IT! haha, I think people would lose interest WAY too early, though. In all honesty, I would. :)

Most people that watch the draft only watch the 1st or 2nd round. Not many people make it past the first day. I love to watch the whole draft just to see where every team is going, but I doubt we would make it past the 4th round in this thing before most people stopped showing up. Even now we have people that don't log in to make their team's 1st round pick! I would love to do a 7 rd mock, but there just isn't enough committed posters here to do that.
 
I would love to do all 7 rounds.

And in response to the trade that Super Mario and I made, it was very. There was nobody I wanted that would not be available at the 36 slot, and if one looks at the value chart, the trade is within 4 or 7 points of each other.
 
I would love to do all 7 rounds.

And in response to the trade that Super Mario and I made, it was very. There was nobody I wanted that would not be available at the 36 slot, and if one looks at the value chart, the trade is within 4 or 7 points of each other.

Man you can tell who the draft kunkies are around here.:specnatz:
 
If we are using the draft pick value chart then I think all picks after the 3rd round should count as 0 points. They aren't worth anything in this draft.

As I said earlier, I like mocks with trades, but this type of thing inspires a "Madden" mentality where some people will try to unload all their picks in an attempt to get three or four players in the top 50. It's not realistic unless there is some kind of bonus involved for receving picks after the third round...
 
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