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Houston Texans 2025 Training Camp

Porky said:
It sucks...hard. But that's football. Guys needs reps and live bullets to get ready for the rigors of the season. Doesn't mean that it doesn't blow chunks because it does. Let's hope it's not an ACL as that very likely be the end of his season. Maybe in a best case he's back for the playoffs but that's asking a lot of an ACL rehab.

Reed was having a good camp for a rookie, and was pushing to make the team. IF CJ is out for the year or an extended amount of time, he'd be a lock to make the roster and compete for minutes. Now, he's out, although in his case it's not serious and he should be back in time to get in the action sometime early in the year.

Who else do they have at S? MJ Stewart and a cast of thousands? Pitre moves from slot back to S?

Nobody is on the roster that can touch CJGJ that's for damn sure. It's a tough blow to the defense if they have lost him. The D will still be very good...but maybe it loses that true elite status.
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Ward/Reed/Jaylin Smith, I'm sure glad Caserio drafted Smith.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
As I've previously posted, I've always been guarded re. Stroud's decision making, especially in this particular new scheme where there is greater responsibilities on the shoulders of the QB for there to be success. Stroud has said that he wants to be able to control more of the offense, and the Texans have said they intend to give him a lot more control this year. I don't feel comfortable in this happening any time soon. Sean Pendergast, a QB himself and a good evaluator of QBs does not ease the discomfort.

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C.J. Stroud Gets Discouraging Update out of Texans Training Camp​

The Houston Texans will need C.J. Stroud to have a bounce-back year under new offensive coordinator Nick Caley if they're to contend in the 2025 NFL season.
In 2025 NFL training camp, the Houston Texans have set out to meaningfully improve a team that's won 20 games over the last two seasons. That's both a promising place to start, and a difficult spot to rise up from.

After finishing 10-7 in both of the past two years, the Texans saw their season end the same way each time: flaming out in a disappointing beatdown in the Divisional Round at the hands of a clearly superior postseason team. Last year, they fell to the Kansas City Chiefs. In 2023, it was a 10-34 blowout to the Baltimore Ravens.

While they were able to win 10 games and advance in Wildcard Weekend last season, there were plenty of glaring areas for improvement that gave the Texans clear paths to development. Mainly, they'll be looking to raise the ceiling on an offense that was hamstrung by both injuries and inconsistency. New offensive coordinator Nick Caley will be looking to breathe life back into a stagnated attack and rejuvenate the progression of third-year quarterback C.J. Stroud.

C.J. Stroud has been underwhelming so far in the Houston Texans' 2025 NFL training camp​

For the most part, C.J. Stroud returning to form after a slight sophomore slump was seen as sort of a given. With better health for his weapons and a revamped offensive line, the hope was that he would regain an upward trajectory from his stellar rookie campaign.

If Nick Caley could recapture the success he found as the passing game coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams last season, Stroud should be able to thrive in a new system. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case so far throughout training camp. HoustonPress's Sean Pendergast recently highlighted some of the lows that the Texans' quarterback has experienced so far:

"Stroud has been, at best, up and down during this training camp. That’s understandable, given the installation of a new system, the near complete turnover of personnel on the offensive line, and the fact that he is going against one of the best defenses in football. However, the disturbing thing about Stroud is that, even when the protection is decent, he is getting jumpy in the pocket. Also, the interceptions that he’s thrown in camp, and there have been several, appear to be poor decisions or misreads of the defense, not interceptions caused by pressure up front. When Stroud’s first read is open, he’s looked really good. When it’s not, he’s looked pedestrian."
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This season will go a long way in determining what the Texans will do in the draft and way CJs 2nd contract will look like.
All accounts are saying that Mills has looked very good. Maybe he should get some reps with the ones.
Seriously, I expect early struggles from both the OL & CJ.
 
Man that blows so many chunks i can build a chunk castle.

That safety duo was looking elite. Now…gonna have to cobble some things together. Ward might now be pressed into duty. MJ Stewart will play more.Reed may have to grow up fast instead of easing in. Trades/waiver wire is a possibility.

This team never catches a break. The football gods hate this team with a passion.
 
Porky said:
Man that blows so many chunks i can build a chunk castle.

That safety duo was looking elite. Now…gonna have to cobble some things together. Ward might now be pressed into duty. MJ Stewart will play more.Reed may have to grow up fast instead of easing in. Trades/waiver wire is a possibility.

This team never catches a break. The football gods hate this team with a passion.
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Injuries happen to every team. It’s unfortunate losing CJGJ but this defense will still be elite without him provided the core stays healthy (Hunter, Anderson and Stingley).
 
Wow then Wilson blew this one. He probably got the “ya this looks like a classic ACL but we are trying to confirm” and Wilson wants to be first and released it. Glad he corrected the record but thats not the best look for AW. All in all, i still trust him but he needs to be right not first.

And i have never been happier for him to be wrong. Now we will see if its best case like missing a few games or its half a year or what. But This is encouraging and i am crossing my fingers. Great news guys.
 
That is tremendous timing on the Jimmy Ward news, just when events had started to make him look essential again! What a fool.

Interesting that the starting OL is still in flux, Scruggs had a day playing 1st team snaps at C and Patterson next to him at Guard, no mention which side Patterson played? I’ll assume that is RG in place of Howard and that it isn’t great news for how Fisher is getting on?
 
C. J. Gardner-Johnson may have dodged the bullet with no ACL, but with the information I've been able to gather, he has sustained what is referred to as Hoffa's fat pad syndrome (also known as infrapatellar fat pad impingement or fat pad syndrome). This occurs when the fat pad at the knee joint is crushed between the the back of the patella (knee cap) and the femur.

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Fat pad impingement as a a primary diagnosis where only the fat pad is injured is very uncommon. Most often it is associated with other knee injuries such as patellar tendonitis, patellofemoral pain syndrome, patellar subluxation/dislocation, meniscus tears, osteoarthritis and even ACL tears. This is why "syndrome" is often added to the diagnosis, meaning that more than one thing is at play.

In my experience, most will recover well with conservative treatment. This is quite a painful condition, and can be excruciatingly so when extending the leg (which maximally compresses the fat pad). The rehab to return is variable and not altogether predictable. Initial recovery can take between 8-12 weeks. Full recovery can range from 3-6 months.

In a study of athletes who underwent surgery (arthroscopic debridement) after failing conservative treatment, 96.4% returned to play at an average of 9.6 weeks post-surgery. Furthermore, 82.1% of these athletes returned to the same level of performance.

So, if my information is correct, CJ may have dodged one bullet (the ACL) and been hit by another............. with hopefully a good outcome ultimately.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
C. J. Gardner-Johnson may have dodged the bullet with no ACL, but with the information I've been able to gather, he has sustained what is referred to as Hoffa's fat pad syndrome (also known as infrapatellar fat pad impingement or fat pad syndrome). This occurs when the fat pad at the knee joint is crushed between the the back of the patella (knee cap) and the femur.

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Fat pad impingement as a a primary diagnosis where only the fat pad is injured is very uncommon. Most often it is associated with other knee injuries such as patellar tendonitis, patellofemoral pain syndrome, patellar subluxation/dislocation, meniscus tears, osteoarthritis and even ACL tears. This is why "syndrome" is often added to the diagnosis, meaning that more than one thing is at play.

In my experience, most will recover well with conservative treatment. This is quite a painful condition, and can be excruciatingly so when extending the leg (which maximally compresses the fat pad). The rehab to return is variable and not altogether predictable. Initial recovery can take between 8-12 weeks. Full recovery can range from 3-6 months.

In a study of athletes who underwent surgery (arthroscopic debridement) after failing conservative treatment, 96.4% returned to play at an average of 9.6 weeks post-surgery. Furthermore, 82.1% of these athletes returned to the same level of performance.

So, if my information is correct, CJ may have dodged one bullet (the ACL) and been hit by another............. with hopefully a good outcome ultimately.
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Thank you, your insight is always appreciated.
 
I don't like the trend. O-Line in flux, Ward being an idiot, Chubb with a concussion, and CJGJ with his knee injury. Are we going to be ready for this season?
 
theCATALYST said:
I don't like the trend. O-Line in flux, Ward being an idiot, Chubb with a concussion, and CJGJ with his knee injury. Are we going to be ready for this season?
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Every team deals with injuries. Look at the thread naming the best players on the team. As long as CJ, Nico, Anderson, Hunter and Stingley are healthy this team will meet its potential.

Injuries suck, but the team did not just lose its pro bowl LT for the season like the Chargers did. They traded him away already! ;)
 
Brisco_County said:
I'm betting meniscus since it's not a ligament. Like a Clowney 2014 situation.
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Not if CND is right. Since he's wavering a bit with the "they might be hiding something, or more to come", I am holding my powder dry but as of now...Doc's likely on the right path. He doesn't just say stuff to hear himself talk (or see himself write), so until we get the details, his diagnosis is what I'm running with until we see all of the deets. And thanks CND!
 
Carr Bombed said:
Jesus Christ.. Bad timing bro. I would cut his ass because of his sheer stupidity alone.
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With his second arrest and stay in jail being based on not being able to stay away from the juice even per his bond requirements, makes me think that he probably had too much happy juice when he assaulted his fiance. Makes me think he's got a problem with choosing the appropriate beverages to quench his thirst.............
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
C. J. Gardner-Johnson may have dodged the bullet with no ACL, but with the information I've been able to gather, he has sustained what is referred to as Hoffa's fat pad syndrome (also known as infrapatellar fat pad impingement or fat pad syndrome). This occurs when the fat pad at the knee joint is crushed between the the back of the patella (knee cap) and the femur.

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Fat pad impingement as a a primary diagnosis where only the fat pad is injured is very uncommon. Most often it is associated with other knee injuries such as patellar tendonitis, patellofemoral pain syndrome, patellar subluxation/dislocation, meniscus tears, osteoarthritis and even ACL tears. This is why "syndrome" is often added to the diagnosis, meaning that more than one thing is at play.

In my experience, most will recover well with conservative treatment. This is quite a painful condition, and can be excruciatingly so when extending the leg (which maximally compresses the fat pad). The rehab to return is variable and not altogether predictable. Initial recovery can take between 8-12 weeks. Full recovery can range from 3-6 months.

In a study of athletes who underwent surgery (arthroscopic debridement) after failing conservative treatment, 96.4% returned to play at an average of 9.6 weeks post-surgery. Furthermore, 82.1% of these athletes returned to the same level of performance.

So, if my information is correct, CJ may have dodged one bullet (the ACL) and been hit by another............. with hopefully a good outcome ultimately.
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Apologies if I missed it, but what does this mean for his timetable to return to football? 3-6 months?
 
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