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Porky said:
No its that they decided to target a pass catching back, not an RB1 candidate, yet they valued Woody as if he is. Now he has to develop into that, or its a fail given the compensation.

Werent you the one telling me how they must like Metchie more than I do for their system and they know what they are doing? How did that one work out for you?
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It worked out fine for me,

If you remember I wanted Caserio to draft Pickens over Metchie.

I'm willing to give Caley the benefit of the doubt while he gets the pieces in place that he feels he needs for his offense to be successful. Remember I wanted Brashard Smith or Jordan James over Marks. Neither of those guys are 3 down 250 carry RB's either. BTW, if rumors are true they wanted Henderson over Higgins or were trying to trade back into the 2nd rd for Henderson. So they obviously valued a RB who could pass block/catch the ball more than anything else when it came to RB's in this draft.

Everything will be OK if/when Mixon is ready week 1 and Pierce is a perfect fit in a power gap scheme. This may be why they didn't prioritize a 3 down RB like many on this MB do.
 
beerlover said:
Doubtful, they just haven’t learned lesson yet and under valued position.
:toropalm:
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Example: Poster #1 of what I'm talking about.

Let them pick their guys, lets see how things turnout then we can discuss it. I'll give you an example of a guy I really liked in the 2024 draft that didn't do much last yr that was drafted in the 3rd rd or later, (Jaylen Wright) when you're drafting a RB that late it's a true crapshoot. Next yrs draft is also a good yr to draft a RB high.
 
steelbtexan said:
What makes you think this?

Or maybe they think Pierce will be the backup 3 down RB and picked up Marks to be a 3rd down RB.
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Marks is just a start, beginning to overhaul Texans, DeMeco, Caley backfield. I’d like to see them start with a clean slate. There is a reason why New England, refused all offers to trade out of pick #38. Didn’t mention pick #36 Quinshon Judkins (great RB prospect but not near locker room fit of Henderson). I was waiting two years for TreVeyon to be draft eligible so forgive my bitterness. For once, rarity of player availability, was ripe for picking because of trade down. Otherwise, stick and pick your franchise tackle Conerly Jr. or Simmons.
 
Porky said:
I liked Tuten and B. Smith and a few others as well. I had Marks as more of a 5th/6th rounder as more of a pass catching specialist.

They must see something more than that in him, otherwise, they would have never given up next years 3rd...which BTW could be a great area to snag your next RB1 and that's now off the table.

It's not Marks fault...but if he's less than a HQ all-around backup at very worst...that's terrible value.

I was relatively intrigued by Jawhar Jordan last year, but he never was elevated. If he continues to show out in camp/games, he may force his way onto the roster. But is he the future RB1? Very doubtful. He's not built to take that kind of load imho.

So, I'm with BL - talking 2026 offseason, continue to build the o-line, and even if Mixon comes back and is mostly healthy, I'd look for a true RB1 next year in the draft.
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I realized this is not a mock draft thread but everyone is talking about past draft and next draft. I am responding to your " is he the future running back one?"
The master trader has maneuvered us into having a round one which I currently think he will trade down again plus two round twos and a round 3 and two round fours to get his RB1.


Penn State 's. Nick Singletary is the guy I am focusing on and he should be available late round two.
6' 227 monster that plays angry. Legitimate 4.4 speed and has run almost 24 mph radar. 1100 yards 6.5 avg almost 10 yd of catch and can return kicks. I was stunned when he returned for his seniors year.
 
Porky said:
No its that they decided to target a pass catching back, not an RB1 candidate, yet they valued Woody as if he is. Now he has to develop into that, or its a fail given the compensation.

Werent you the one telling me how they must like Metchie more than I do for their system and they know what they are doing? How did that one work out for you?
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He has the capability of a number 1 back as well. Youngster was a workhorse in USC: He wasn’t just a pass catching back.


In the 2024 season with USC, running back Woody Marks had a strong showing, rushing for 1,133 yards and 9 touchdowns on 198 carries, averaging 5.7 yards per carry. He also contributed as a receiver, catching 47 passes for 321 yards. Overall, he accumulated over 4,500 combined rushing and receiving yards throughout his college career and scored 36 touchdowns.
 
beerlover said:
Marks is just a start, beginning to overhaul Texans, DeMeco, Caley backfield. I’d like to see them start with a clean slate. There is a reason why New England, refused all offers to trade out of pick #38. Didn’t mention pick #36 Quinshon Judkins (great RB prospect but not near locker room fit of Henderson). I was waiting two years for TreVeyon to be draft eligible so forgive my bitterness. For once, rarity of player availability, was ripe for picking because of trade down. Otherwise, stick and pick your franchise tackle Conerly Jr. or Simmons.
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They wanted Henderson and tried to trade up to get him. Obviously they also wanted Higgins. But imagine if they had traded up and drafted these 2 guys and missed out on Ersery. What would the MB said then about neglecting the ol after they actually neglected the ol?

I like Henderson a lot too, but after the last 2 years of WR's being hurt in the playoffs I'm glad they drafted Higgins and then doubled up with Noel along with trading for Kirk so we won't have to see the same thing for 3 years in a row.

So then if you wanted Henderson that badly you could have traded 2-59-3-89- 2026 2nd to get Henderson. Like I said I like Henderson but I don't like him that much. You're essentially trading Ersery and a 2026 2nd for Henderson. I'm glad Caserio passed on that
 
On this last point, i gotta agree with SB. I liked Henderson a lot too, but not over Higgins or Ersery. Just based in career length alone, the WR amd T are better options.

What i would not have done is trade next years third and used a high fourth on a specialist. Now,..the argument is among us on id]f Marks can be more. May be he will be. If so…my opinion will change. More likely he is that specialist, in which case the cost was too damn high.
 
Porky said:
On this last point, i gotta agree with SB. I liked Henderson a lot too, but not over Higgins or Ersery. Just based in career length alone, the WR amd T are better options.

What i would not have done is trade next years third and used a high fourth on a specialist. Now,..the argument is among us on id]f Marks can be more. May be he will be. If so…my opinion will change. More likely he is that specialist, in which case the cost was too damn high.
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True, but if he turns into James White, has a 10 year career and scores the winning TD in a SB I'll bet you feel differently. LOL
 
Hutch is having a good camp from what I hear but nothing amazing. He is somewhat limited athletically so his upside has a cap on it. WR is likely to be a tough cut, but I think Metchie is odd man out. Maybe someone would give Nick a 7th in trade or a pick swap. Top Four are set. I see Hutch and Watson as 5 and 6…Berrios might be 7th.
 
Porky said:
Hutch is having a good camp from what I hear but nothing amazing. He is somewhat limited athletically so his upside has a cap on it. WR is likely to be a tough cut, but I think Metchie is odd man out. Maybe someone would give Nick a 7th in trade or a pick swap. Top Four are set. I see Hutch and Watson as 5 and 6…Berrios might be 7th.
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Yep, if they keep 6 WR's then one of Barrios, Watson, Hutch will have to be cut. I'm guessing that it will come down to Hutch or Watson, with Barrios being the PR,KR like Sims was last year.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yep, if they keep 6 WR's then one of Barrios, Watson, Hutch will have to be cut. I'm guessing that it will come down to Hutch or Watson, with Barrios being the PR,KR like Sims was last year.
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imagine Hutchinson is cheapest option. Barrios is emergency option. But Watson, fits more as ideal make-up. Good problem to have.
 
Porky said:
Yes Skattebo was very high on my wish list. Could have ha him, saved next years 3rd…and had a guy with potential RB1 value. Nick outsmarted himself again. Hopefully Marks is a beast otherwise this looks really bad.
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I feel like Nick out smarts himself a decent amount in the draft, loves moving around and often it feels like just to show he can
 
WAJTerminator said:
I feel like Nick out smarts himself a decent amount in the draft, loves moving around and often it feels like just to show he can
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He targets players the scouts and coaches like, then moves around in the draft to get those players. Seems like a smart way to operate IMHO. Of course there's still going to be mistakes made though, nobody's perfect.
 
steelbtexan said:
He targets players the scouts and coaches like, then moves around in the draft to get those players. Seems like a smart way to operate IMHO. Of course there's still going to be mistakes made though, nobody's perfect.
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Yeah he's made more great moves than not, I just think he has moments of getting excited or antsy to move around. I'm happy he's our GM so I'll stop nitpicking 😅
 
badboy said:
Can you give an example? Everything looks good so far from the 2025 draft and his last two were pretty successful also.
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Just odd stuff like trading up in the late rounds for Mertz. Same with trading up for Marks. I get he has players picked by coaches and probably knows someone is after them (which I don't). It's nothing big to be honest and I'm very happy with him as GM. Just curious sometimes when he gets the itch to trade back up in random rounds.
 
WAJTerminator said:
Just odd stuff like trading up in the late rounds for Mertz. Same with trading up for Marks. I get he has players picked by coaches and probably knows someone is after them (which I don't). It's nothing big to be honest and I'm very happy with him as GM. Just curious sometimes when he gets the itch to trade back up in random rounds.
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ok thanks. I don't think it is an 'itch' but rather what he sees as value. I was not ok with either of the two players you mention but Marks seems to be doing okay.
 
badboy said:
ok thanks. I don't think it is an 'itch' but rather what he sees as value. I was not ok with either of the two players you mention but Marks seems to be doing okay.
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It has taken me a few years to get used to this as I am personally a value guy, get all you can. I have come to perceive they have a smaller board then others as besides being good at football, they value the traits around eat/sleep football, take coaching, team first guys. This shrinks their pool and when Nick sees his grouping of players thin at certain draft spots he moves. They also seem to fall in love with some guys. In the end, other than OL, he picks good players. Maybe Ersery was finally a good one.
 
WAJTerminator said:
Just odd stuff like trading up in the late rounds for Mertz. Same with trading up for Marks. I get he has players picked by coaches and probably knows someone is after them (which I don't). It's nothing big to be honest and I'm very happy with him as GM. Just curious sometimes when he gets the itch to trade back up in random rounds.
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He gets the guys the coaches want. This is really pretty simple. I like this philosophy compared to say the RS philosophy.
 
badboy said:
ok thanks. I don't think it is an 'itch' but rather what he sees as value. I was not ok with either of the two players you mention but Marks seems to be doing okay.
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Everyone on here was on fire about what a reach picking Jaylin Smith was and from all the people watching camp so far he’s been great and is possibly going to fill one of my biggest need areas which was outside CB3.
 
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